Point buy adjustments instead of CR adjustments?


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So, rather than having CR adjustments for each race tier, why not allow different point buy totals for different tiers? (In campaigns that allow point buy, that is.)

e.g.
10 RP - Campaign's standard value
20 RP - Campaign's standard value -5
30 RP - Campaign's standard value -10
40 RP - Campaign's standard value -15

with a minimum of 10 points.

So, a High Fantasy campaign (20 points) would allow Standard (10 RP) races to have 20 points of ability scores, while Advanced (20 RP) races could have 15 points of ability scores, and Monstrous (30 RP) races could have 10 points of ability scores.


You could make it even more direct:

Your racial cost is subtracted from your point buy when you start.

For example, with point buy 30:

Play a 10 point race, you get 20 points for your point buy.
Play a 13 point race, you get 17 points for your point buy.

And so on.

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Umbral Reaver wrote:

You could make it even more direct:

Your racial cost is subtracted from your point buy when you start.

For example, with point buy 30:

Play a 10 point race, you get 20 points for your point buy.
Play a 13 point race, you get 17 points for your point buy.

And so on.

Down to a minimum of 10... I assume?

This might have possibilities.


draco_nite wrote:

So, rather than having CR adjustments for each race tier, why not allow different point buy totals for different tiers? (In campaigns that allow point buy, that is.)

e.g.
10 RP - Campaign's standard value
20 RP - Campaign's standard value -5
30 RP - Campaign's standard value -10
40 RP - Campaign's standard value -15

with a minimum of 10 points.

So, a High Fantasy campaign (20 points) would allow Standard (10 RP) races to have 20 points of ability scores, while Advanced (20 RP) races could have 15 points of ability scores, and Monstrous (30 RP) races could have 10 points of ability scores.

I see where you are going but lets add the last line of race tier into that 40RP still gets 10 points of scores. So I might as well play a 40 RP over the 30 every time.

I think where Umbral Reaver is going might be a better tack.


Dragonsong wrote:
draco_nite wrote:

So, rather than having CR adjustments for each race tier, why not allow different point buy totals for different tiers? (In campaigns that allow point buy, that is.)

e.g.
10 RP - Campaign's standard value
20 RP - Campaign's standard value -5
30 RP - Campaign's standard value -10
40 RP - Campaign's standard value -15

with a minimum of 10 points.

So, a High Fantasy campaign (20 points) would allow Standard (10 RP) races to have 20 points of ability scores, while Advanced (20 RP) races could have 15 points of ability scores, and Monstrous (30 RP) races could have 10 points of ability scores.

I see where you are going but lets add the last line of race tier into that 40RP still gets 10 points of scores. So I might as well play a 40 RP over the 30 every time.

I think where Umbral Reaver is going might be a better tack.

By "minimum of 10," I mean that you can't play a race with more RP than one that would allow 10 points.

So, in a 20 point campaign, you could not play a 40 point race, since that would be a point buy of 5 points. Basically, 10 RP is worth 5 points under my system.

I like Umbral Reaver's idea as well, which is more balanced would probably come down to a bunch of number crunching that I'd rather not do.

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