NO! No no no no! So tell me, is the Chicago of 85 mya in ARGENTINA???? First, carnotaurs. Now, a spinosaur of some sort. Creatures for which fossils of neither have been found in North America! AAAAGGGHHH!!!! *runs around the house waving arms and screaming*
Ok..ok..I'm better. Aside from the ankylosaur and the brachiosaurs (the only other "real" dinosaurs TN has shown us yet, I've yet to see a North American genus.
And the Sixers thing just gets sillier. And they seem to be afraid of Taylor's son, who looks like a young and dialogue chewing Hugh Laurie.
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Yup. I just quit the show. For something I went into with no real expectations, it sure was disappointing.
Yea, I think I'm over it as of last night. The mad max dinosaur herders are just something I can't deal with.
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I continue to be dissapointed. Too many stupid things make it into the show. First the house that the little girl was born in was supposed to be in 2150, Cook County IL? It's pretty damn hard to find a remote farm house in Cook County today - almost all of Cook County is urban now. I would expect that the surrounding counties would be hard pressed to claim a house like that in 100 years.
The dinosaur herding was also hard to swallow - I'm not even sure how the Sixers kept pace with it to herd it, much less why it didn't stomp them flat.
If the stinky mud the repeled dinosaurs was so commonly known, how come ther colonists haven't made a more refined dinosaur repellant for whenever they go outside of the walls? For that matter, how much do you want to bet that this miracle mud will never be seen again?
I think you hit on something there, Joel. It's this weird mish-mash of high and low tech that's grating on me. Some things are so high-tech they seem like they could fit seamlessly into an episode of Star Trek, and then the rest is not much better than what we work with in our day and age.
Then there are the convenient disappearances of things in order to forward the plot. This is something I'm familiar with from watching Star Trek. (Like when Worf's mate died because the medical team arrived too late, despite the fact that in an emergency they could just beam people to different places in the ship in a matter of seconds.)
Example: They're 85 million years in the past, with only periodic renewal of supplies to support their extremely advanced tech. Yet they had no failsafes in place for a loss of power. Just what powers their settlement, anyway? Was there no one that said: "What if we have a prolonged power outage? Shouldn't we have some back-up generators? Maybe some old-fashioned medical equipment too, just in case..."
When the Sixers were actually in the settlement, where the heck did all their soldiers go? Seems like they were all conveniently elsewhere while cop-dad and commander had to handle things all on their own. The ones who were in the watch towers I probably would have reprimanded, if I hadn't been shown that there are man-sized holes in the fence that anyone can walk in and out of.
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And don't even get me started on the box. I get that for plot purposes they couldn't open it or see what was inside of it, but the only information they could get from it was that it was coded to a specific DNA? They couldn't scan it with a variety of things (x-rays, the medical diagnostic bed type tech they have, etc) to determine that it either was a safe with a physical object inside, or a computer with data
All I wanted was a scene with them saying, "we tried scanning it, but it's shielded against all known frequencies and reflects x-rays, etc" and a scene with them breaking a few diamond tipped drills on it's surface, to at least show they tried. It was also annoying that they have the best and brightest of 2150 living there, military, scientists, etc, but none of them even knew what it was. No "oh, this is a secure nana-genome locked unobtanium lockbox...there's no way we can open one of these, even with the full resources of 2150!"
You know, it was bad enough when Kirk had to personally head every away team when visiting potentially hostile planets. Now we've got Terra Nova, where the head guy goes out on his own into dinosaur-infested jungles. Sheesh. Plus, that fishing deal was just dumb. My dad used to deep sea fish, and there's a reason the chairs are bolted to the deck and you're strapped into them. They should have both gone over the cliff, no matter how macho the commander thinks he is.
I think I'm officially calling it quits on the show.
The sad thing is that it was actually a better episode than most - the plot appeared for the first time ever!
Fixed that for you =\
The best part of that episode was "hey this guy I exiled is being tracked by a big bad@ss Komodo Dragon and instead of trying to fight it with the cool guns we have I will use a knife and a torch!!"
That and his skewed "Komodos are cowards" philosophizing. It's a hunting technique used by an animal, and a fairly effective one at that. Stop anthropomorphizing.
The best part of that episode was "hey this guy I exiled is being tracked by a big bad@ss Komodo Dragon and instead of trying to fight it with the cool guns we have I will use a knife and a torch!!"
LOL. You just quoted my wife.
Tonight, I will take a painkiller for the after effects of my recent surgery, sit down with a pleasant and comfortable numbness, and gripe my kiester off about Terra Nova. Again. My wife has just sort of come to expect that not only am I going to point out the obvious plot problems, the continuity problems, and that I will rant and rave about the made up dinosaurs and the WRONG dinosaurs for location the show takes place in. Jack Horner, a scientist who I have great respect for, is supposed to be a consultant for the show. The paleogeek in me is having a harder and harder time not writing the man at the Museum of the Rockies and screaming "WHY?" over and over in it.
Anyway. Gotta pay bills. Then, take a nap, fix dinner, and prepare to be disappointed AGAIN. But, to quote Led Zeppelin, "I can't quit you, babe".
It's officially off my Tivo.
It's officially off my Tivo.
Mine too. With the addition of Skyrim eating up my spare time Terra Nova was the first cut.
Me too. Just House and Castle on the Monday list now.
Well, last night's episode wasn't quite the slow motion freeway pileup that others have been, for which I'm glad. I think it was a good episode that let the viewers in on a few things, such as why the Sixers are there. And despite the dialog chewing and bad acting, I really enjoyed seeing Commander Taylor's "dark side" come out. I didn't like, however, how they almost deified him in their little passion play.
however, how they almost deified him in their little passion play.
Why that is one of the best part. History books have always done that, look at how American history books handle the pilgrims and Columbus. They white wash them into boyscout heroes and that just isn't the case.
The fact the colony has done this with Taylor is one of the most realistic things on the whole show. Its very much like watching kids put on a thanksgiving play, when you know the truth is nothing like the idealistic play the children put on. But now days most people take that version as fact.
It's officially off my Tivo.
Yeah, it's too bad. The show had such potential on it's own. A brave new world and all that, then they had to go and muck it up with needless conspiracy theories, et al.
Guess if I want to get my prehistoric fix I'll have to watch Primeval on BBCA.
however, how they almost deified him in their little passion play.
Why that is one of the best part. History books have always done that, look at how American history books handle the pilgrims and Columbus. They white wash them into boyscout heroes and that just isn't the case.
The fact the colony has done this with Taylor is one of the most realistic things on the whole show. Its very much like watching kids put on a thanksgiving play, when you know the truth is nothing like the idealistic play the children put on. But now days most people take that version as fact.
True, all true. I just thought it odd they'd do it while he was still alive..lol. This was like watching some government mandated parade to honor their "Dear Leader" a la Kim Jung Taylor or something. Just kinda seemed silly. But then again, I'd eaten a couple of heavy duty pain killers before the show. I might have imagined the whole thing..lol
After the past 2-3 episodes, this show should be called, Fascism: The Early Years.
Why do I keep watching this show???
Someone may have posted this already, but it still eats at my brain. If the colonists have had no way to contact 2149, how do the folks in the future know there is even a colony to go to? Are they just blindly walking into something they have no guarantee of existing? How did 2149 know to send equipment and supplies and even the tech to build the portal if they didn't know there'd be anyone there to use it?
These are typical Braga holes in everything he's ever done. So why do I keep watching this show???
Why do I keep watching this show???
Someone may have posted this already, but it still eats at my brain. If the colonists have had no way to contact 2149, how do the folks in the future know there is even a colony to go to? Are they just blindly walking into something they have no guarantee of existing? How did 2149 know to send equipment and supplies and even the tech to build the portal if they didn't know there'd be anyone there to use it?
These are typical Braga holes in everything he's ever done. So why do I keep watching this show???
Well, when the portal is open they can signals back.
Terra Nova: Welcome to Paradise! Now do what the man with the gun tells you to do, or we'll torture and kill you.
Well, when the portal is open they can signals back.
Well, that would make sense. I might have remembered that if my wife and I weren't bottle feeding four 11 day old boxer puppies that had been dropped off at a shelter. It's like having a baby again, what with the feedings and cleanings and worrying and so forth, but only four times the load we had with our son at that age.
Oy. I'm so tired.
Well, when the portal is open they can signals back.Well, that would make sense. I might have remembered that if my wife and I weren't bottle feeding four 11 day old boxer puppies that had been dropped off at a shelter. It's like having a baby again, what with the feedings and cleanings and worrying and so forth, but only four times the load we had with our son at that age.
Oy. I'm so tired.
+1. Kudos, DC. You're giving them what they need and deserve. Nice! Merry Chrismahannukwanzaa! You've pleased all the gods.
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Well after the season finale last night I'm again frustrated by the POTENTIAL of this show. I found the finale actually enjoyable compared to the rest of the season.
Be interesting to see if it gets picked up for another season next year. I find myself actually hoping it does just to see what they do with the big reveal. Shrug. We'll see.
Mehhhhhhhh. I don't know what to think.
Lots of wastefulness going on. Killing Wash was just silly - now, I'm not normally one to care all that much whether there's 'strong women' in a show or not, but this show didn't have a lot of them as it was, and killing Wash was a massive waste.
Lucas lived? Really? And the bozos couldn't hear him drag his sorry shot-up ass away through the bush a couple of feet away? That was especially aggravating, as I don't care to ever see him again. His neck should have been broken / a bullet put in his brain at the earliest opportunity. In any case, I don't ever want to see him on the show again (if it manages to return) as his presence seriously decreases the enjoyment of the show for me.
Not really sure if I care if it returns or not.
That's assuming of course that all worlds that share the same past would have the same future. Humanity's origins may be nothing more than a fluke series of lucky rolls of genetic dice.
Actually the real kicker would be to discover that they'd actually traveled into the FUTURE.
You know that would be ironic enough to be true!
I like the show myself. I think they are going for a Bermuda triangle angle here. Which opens up an idea for both other human cultures and a second gateway.
Drat, someone stole my berumda triangle idea.
Suppose they made it a bit obvious.
Bermuda Triangle? The heck with that! This show is a remake of The Land of the Lost! I'm just waiting for the Sleestak episode...
I haven't seen it yet. Wash? Noooooooooooo!
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Thinking Bermuda Triangle as well. I hope they do not do that though.
Does anyone else get that '80's TV series feeling from this show. The family has to be close. The good guys might would but they don't kill. It was particularly strong last episode. Yes the Carnosaur had a full tummy by the time it blew up, maybe still not convinced that specific critter won't show up again, but the main character despite fighting off tons of trained mercenaries when he takes aim and shoots, he hits the vent in front of them and the smoke keeps them from shooting him.
Felt like I was watching the A-team family edition. I kept wanting to hear colonel white beard to say, "I love it when a plan comes together."
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LOL. Well it IS a prime time show aimed at a wide audience... look no further than the baby dino storyline. Sigh.
As for the main character, he does shoot (bloodlessly I noticed) at least one of the mercs. And he is a cop, so he's trained in some hand-to-hand combat (enough to take on supposedly veteran mercs? Eh...)
But I get the point. It's no "Walking Dead" or "Sons of Anarchy" in the violence department despite sporting the "Warning: this show contains violence" notices for the season finale. Shrug.
Thinking Bermuda Triangle as well. I hope they do not do that though.
Does anyone else get that '80's TV series feeling from this show. The family has to be close. The good guys might would but they don't kill. It was particularly strong last episode. Yes the Carnosaur had a full tummy by the time it blew up, maybe still not convinced that specific critter won't show up again, but the main character despite fighting off tons of trained mercenaries when he takes aim and shoots, he hits the vent in front of them and the smoke keeps them from shooting him.
Felt like I was watching the A-team family edition. I kept wanting to hear colonel white beard to say, "I love it when a plan comes together."
You know what? That's it. That's the funny feeling I've gotten when watching this show. Especially galling, since another prime-time network show - CSI - shows and discusses disgusting (and inappropriate, AFAIC) scenes of child murder.
C'mon... can't I get something in between?
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Though not a huge fan of the show I did rather like the part when the dinosaur was in the future.
"Go ahead. It's clear."
CRUNCH
Yup. Series has been cancelled, though 20th Century Fox is trying to get another network to pick it up.
Why doesn't this surprise me?
Sci-fi drama 'Terra Nova' axed after first season
Well when you end the last episode with a Bermuda Triangle reference, I think you have probably already jumped the Megalodon.
I stopped watching a few episodes in--the family 'drama' was bland, and the rest became 'monster of the week' (although the monsters did look good).
Had to res this thread after watching this show on Netflix. It's not exactly worth writing home about, but...
I enjoyed it myself. The Parallel world route allows them far more leeway in what they do. I am ok with getting them "wrong", the show is what it is, its not trying to be a history or discovery channel hard sci show about dinos.
Its a show about people in the future, in a dying over crowed word, who stargate to another universe, 85 millions years in the past of the universe at that.
So I just roll with it for what it is. And so far, its a fun trip anyhow.
Well said! I expected the show to be grittier -- in particular I kept expecting Commander Taylor to reveal himself as an evil military mastermind villain. (Thanks, Avatar!) Oh well, no show is perfect.
The only detail that really bothered me actually wasn't dino or time travel related -- it was a social issue. In the first episode when we find out that 2149 has a two-child law and that the Shannons have three children, all I could think was "You not only want to have a child or two who will have to suffer through this dying Earth that shows no sign of improvement, but you want to add to humanity's bloated population? Seriously?!" I felt bad for Zoe when they took her away, and I don't like the idea of hard population control, but that doesn't make a three-child family any less stupid.
If the show had been grittier, and the Shannons presented as fundamentally flawed people, I don't think this would have stuck out like a sore thumb to me. But the Shannons are the usual type of near-perfect sitcom family, complete with the classic mom-and-dad-know-best theme. After the Shannons get to Terra Nova, the issue is brought up exactly twice -- once when Commander Taylor finds out about it upon the Shannons' arrival. Which really should have been a red flag for a military leader -- a fugitive who 1) flagrantly broke the law and 2) doesn't respect the whole "Starting fresh, and doing it right this time" thing that Taylor is all about. (Granted, population control isn't an issue when only 1,000 people exist in the past, but it will eventually become one.)
And then in a later episode someone asks Jim why he and Liz had a third child, and he replies "It seemed like a good idea at the time." ...What? How could that possibly seem like a good idea? Were you out of condoms? Do you have some deep-seated psychological garbage pressing you to put yourself and your family in constant danger? What was it?
...Sorry, I got a bit ranty there. Overall, this was a fun show!
From the (negative) Time Magazine review, it seems that the past they are entering is in 'an alternate timeline'...so they're screwing up somebody's present, but not their own. (I'll be mildly impressed if someone in the show thinks to bring up the fact that they may be committing temporal genocide on some other version of humanity.)
As an alternate past, it also means they can play fast and loose with the dinosaurs.
I'm going to hold any judgement until I've actually seen a few episodes. Time seems to feel that the characters lacked depth.
It's more of a situation of the parralel world "Paleo" of the OX Trilogy.
As far as the colonists of Terra Nova are concerned, this Earth is theirs and THEY are it's future.
No worries, they are not going to survive the mass extinction events anyway. They would have 0 impact on the future.
Well said! I expected the show to be grittier -- in particular I kept expecting Commander Taylor to reveal himself as an evil military mastermind villain. (Thanks, Avatar!) Oh well, no show is perfect.
The show was changed a great deal from the original pilot to the product that saw air. Taylor actually was a villain in the original version, Mira was a spy working against him, Jim gets recruited to her cause.
There were a lot of other differences too, Josh was much less emo, he didn't have a girlfriend back in the future that he was pining after and there's a whole plot with him joining a hunter's guild that goes after dinosaurs for meat. The youngest daughter hadn't been found out in the past (she was living with Jim's sister as one of her kids) and there was no prison break plot.