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OK call me a Diva, Fashionista or just a plan girl, I love fashion both RL and Fantasy, medieval, Renaissance, Victorian, etc.

I'd love to see a book come out that shows some of the varing styles of clothing of Golorian from the Upper class to the lower class, from adventures to travelers.

Each regions would be similar or maybe different. Going off the Inner sea guide you see some of it already. Armor would be listed to as armor would be different in ways just like in real world armor. German armor was different from English armor in the medieval and renaissance.

You could make this a HB book with weapons as well that show the diversity of each area from the the different countries.

How about this Paizo?


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I'd buy a book that showed the difference between styles among countries, though I think it would be cool to involve a bit about architecture and even arts and entertainment as well as clothing, weapons, and armors. This could add quite a bit to immersion. I'd even like to see it have a bit of crunch and have minor bonuses be granted for using a certain regions armor or weapon.


A cultural guide/art book would be a pretty sweet addition to my Pathfinder shelf. It could even cover some of the dead civilizations too, so we know what that magic gear might look like when we find it in an old Thassilonian ruin or Osirian tomb.


This would work well if it were an Equipment or Item book of some kind. In my own game we had an Urban game that had a lot of murder mystery and thieves world kind of intrigue.

I mention these two things together because we had come up with costumes and armor sets that had bonuses to things like Gather Information, Intimidate, Bluff, Sense Motive and so on.


I like the idea, as minor details can make the world seem more real.
Even the colours of clothing has meaning.

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Yes, covering some of the past civilizations would be sweet.

Doing architecture and even arts behind the clothing/armor/weapons would add detail.


This type of product I would absolutely love to have as well, would be much easier and give much more diversity in how people look. An excellent idea!


"Doing architecture and even arts behind the clothing/armor/weapons would add detail."

a book like that would be great.


Add in some floor plans for a few typical buildings for each culture/nation to go along with the artwork for them to kick it up a notch. Ever since computer games started releasing art books I have thought it would be a perfect fit for an rpg product. The fact that Paizo is known for stellar artwork even makes this more of a reason such a book should exist.


I'd love to buy such a product!


Count me as a yea!

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YES.

Especially if it has line-up pics for each culture showing a range of fashion across the various classes/castes/social positions.


Oooh, that'd be amazing! I've looked through some of the other material trying to find this kind of thing before but to no avail...I'd love a fashion book!


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Yeah, I'd definitely pick this up. Possibly something akin to Aurora's Whole Realms Guide.

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IceniQueen wrote:

OK call me a Diva, Fashionista or just a plan girl, I love fashion both RL and Fantasy, medieval, Renaissance, Victorian, etc.

I'd love to see a book come out that shows some of the varing styles of clothing of Golorian from the Upper class to the lower class, from adventures to travelers.

Each regions would be similar or maybe different. Going off the Inner sea guide you see some of it already. Armor would be listed to as armor would be different in ways just like in real world armor. German armor was different from English armor in the medieval and renaissance.

You could make this a HB book with weapons as well that show the diversity of each area from the the different countries.

How about this Paizo?

+1,000,000,000


I'd buy this in a second...


Add me to the list of gamers interested in such a product.


That would indeed make for a very tasty campaign setting product!


Son of the Veterinarian wrote:
Yeah, I'd definitely pick this up. Possibly something akin to Aurora's Whole Realms Guide.

Great idea

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As someone playing a Taldane ex-silks merchant with the Fashionable Trait, I must say...

A HUNDRED TIMES, YES!

I love the idea of adventurers keeping a wardrobe of clothing that gives skill bonuses and social boons in certain contexts. You can wear your Winter Wolf Furs in Irrisen, your Dandy's Pantaloons in Absalom's docks, your Sage's Hood in the libraries of Osirion or your Ancestor's Ceremonial Mantle in the Court of a Dwarven Sky Citadel.

Clothing is about more than just the temperature!
Daahling!


I'd buy it. One of those products that might add a ton of flavor to a Pathfinder game. Fashion, architecture, arts, food/drink, and culture in general.


Just to add, too, while it goes against the optimizey side of me...if a book like this is done, I'd actually prefer it to be pure flavor. No new weapons, no new armor (pictures and/or descriptions of armor styles, but no new stats), no new spells or archetypes or anything. At most maybe a page or two of traits and some stylish adventuring gear (non-combat adventuring gear), but mostly pictures and descriptions of fashions, foods, and architecture.

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DrowVampyre wrote:
Just to add, too, while it goes against the optimizey side of me...if a book like this is done, I'd actually prefer it to be pure flavor. No new weapons, no new armor (pictures and/or descriptions of armor styles, but no new stats), no new spells or archetypes or anything. At most maybe a page or two of traits and some stylish adventuring gear (non-combat adventuring gear), but mostly pictures and descriptions of fashions, foods, and architecture.

I agree. No need for new Armor or spells. Maybe a few feats at best and traits. The armor and weapons would be ones that exist currently. This book would show in the art the different styles of all ranks, and adventures from area's or travelers.

No reason to make the system more clunky

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Clothes, sure, but definitely architecture. I occasionally read about some building being 'in the Ergorian style' or whatever, and there are usually suggestions as to color and whatnot, but, in the end, it's utterly meaningless to me without a picture.

I'm a 'needs visual aids' sort of guy.

Armor styles, particularly for Osirioni and Qadiran characters, also intrigues me. This is a fantasy setting, so, even if the real world cultures they are ever-so-loosely mapped upon didn't use plate armor, Osirioni and Qadiran 'knights' might well use plate armor, and yet most of the Osirioni and Qadiran figures we've seen have been wearing loose clothes, or even just kilts with no shirts, and minimal, if any, armor.

(The alternative would be that they don't wear such armors, and have an assortment of feats and / or class features that allow martial classes to function despite their loss, say via a Class Defense Bonus sort of deal, but the setting has been out for *years* with no mention of such, so it seems more likely that they just have plate armor that somehow doesn't overheat them, perhaps via cantrip level magical enhancements to keep the wearer cool.)


I can see architecture, but... I dunno. You get examples of clothing in APs which... *shrug*

When I'm building the world, or imagining my character, yeah it could help to see "hey, this is what a Taldan lady would wear" vs "this is what a Osirani lady would wear" but ultimately, I think it's an individual player/character's decision what they wear based on visual cues the DM provides.

I mean, it's a fantasy game. If we get around to such minute details as "hey, your sorc wearing a purple cloak may be cool in Varisia, but in Taldor it's frowned upon, and you wouldn't want to" you kinda lose out on that element.

When I think Taldor, I think HBO's Rome, and the amazing wigs they wore in that series. When I think Osirion, I think Egypt, with a little more of the Grecian flare. The implied amalgams are enough for me to envision my character's dress. And sometimes, if my character has enough charisma, she just dresses and does not worry about the consequences (but not in the crazed Lady Gaga way).


Hu5tru wrote:

...I think it's an individual player/character's decision what they wear based on visual cues the DM provides.

I mean, it's a fantasy game. If we get around to such minute details as "hey, your sorc wearing a purple cloak may be cool in Varisia, but in Taldor it's frowned upon, and you wouldn't want to" you kinda lose out on that element.

Well, yeah, of course you can wear whatever you want. But if you had a book with a bunch of pictures of all sorts of styles and where they're fashionalble, it would probably give you ideas.

And the proper response to the "wrong cloak" scenario is "my sorceress has a 28 charisma - a month from now, purple cloaks are gonna be the thing in Taldor!" ^_-


DrowVampyre wrote:
Hu5tru wrote:

...I think it's an individual player/character's decision what they wear based on visual cues the DM provides.

I mean, it's a fantasy game. If we get around to such minute details as "hey, your sorc wearing a purple cloak may be cool in Varisia, but in Taldor it's frowned upon, and you wouldn't want to" you kinda lose out on that element.

Well, yeah, of course you can wear whatever you want. But if you had a book with a bunch of pictures of all sorts of styles and where they're fashionalble, it would probably give you ideas.

And the proper response to the "wrong cloak" scenario is "my sorceress has a 28 charisma - a month from now, purple cloaks are gonna be the thing in Taldor!" ^_-

As much as it shames (and delights) me to say this I would also be up for a fashion book. Arts and Humanities of the Inner Sea. Dealing with Fashions (some descriptions for we who don't study medieval fashion) and maybe lots of character images for each major area and maybe Architecture as well with images of cool-looking buildings.


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Stopping by to add my name to the ever-growing list who would love to see a 'Fashions and Architecture of Golarion' product. I tend to prefer to describe what I'm wearing in a city on a day to day basis, and recycling an outfit after only a few days is oh so drab. =)


DrowVampyre wrote:
Just to add, too, while it goes against the optimizey side of me...if a book like this is done, I'd actually prefer it to be pure flavor. No new weapons, no new armor (pictures and/or descriptions of armor styles, but no new stats), no new spells or archetypes or anything. At most maybe a page or two of traits and some stylish adventuring gear (non-combat adventuring gear), but mostly pictures and descriptions of fashions, foods, and architecture.

That kind of book definitely is not mean for spells, archetypes nor Prestige clases.

weapong and armor? only if they have a lot of flavor of a specific region.

Definitely would be good to have a couple of regional feats and traits


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Something else that might be useful would be images showing what kind of vestments priests of the various gods wear. None of the Pathfinder god articles have given a good image of what a simple vs. higher ranking cleric wears for example.

For some (Erastil, Cayden Cailean, etc...) it won't matter, but the more organized ones should have some sort of uniform design, even if there are regional variations.

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Son of the Veterinarian wrote:

Something else that might be useful would be images showing what kind of vestments priests of the various gods wear. None of the Pathfinder god articles have given a good image of what a simple vs. higher ranking cleric wears for example.

For some (Erastil, Cayden Cailean, etc...) it won't matter, but the more organized ones should have some sort of uniform design, even if there are regional variations.

Part of the whole fashion thing.

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I would love a book that talks about regional styles of clothes, fashion, hair styles. You can also throw in foods, drinks, social quirks etc. I mean we have all that in today's world where far travel is much easier for the common person.


Heine Stick wrote:
I'd buy it. One of those products that might add a ton of flavor to a Pathfinder game. Fashion, architecture, arts, food/drink, and culture in general.

I would buy an entire book filled with immersive details. Regional menus, popular plays, clothing trends, etc filled with art...sign me up.

And throw in some recipies, like those found in the Wayfinder.


Add me to the ones who think this sounds like a good idea.


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Such a book would make an excellent "coffee table" book.

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This project is getting larger and larger in scale.

However, keep in mind ...

  • Art is expansive.
  • If the focus is kept more limited, it might be better served as part of the Pathfinder Companion line.


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    Lord Fyre wrote:

    This project is getting larger and larger in scale.

    However, keep in mind ...

  • Art is expansive.
  • That's why the suggestion that it be a coffee table book. :)

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    +1 for Fashions of Golarion

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    Son of the Veterinarian wrote:
    Lord Fyre wrote:

    This project is getting larger and larger in scale.

    However, keep in mind ...

  • Art is expansive.
  • That's why the suggestion that it be a coffee table book. :)

    At that price point, would it sell enough to justifiy the cost?


    Son of the Veterinarian wrote:
    Lord Fyre wrote:

    This project is getting larger and larger in scale.

    However, keep in mind ...

  • Art is expansive.
  • That's why the suggestion that it be a coffee table book. :)

    Nah, it deserves a better fate than being a coffee table book.


    Kajehase wrote:
    Nah, it deserves a better fate than being a coffee table book.

    Luckily, the majority of gaming tables have more room than a mere coffee table.


    Does somebody propose this idea to the paizo staff?


    More architecture than fashion, but probably this type of artwork is the most expensive.

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    Nicos wrote:
    Does somebody propose this idea to the paizo staff?

    Paizo staff reads the boards. So hopefully they have read this post in the boards. Chances are... they have.

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    +1 for 'Art and Culture of the Inner Sea Region'.


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    +1

    I think this would be a great project to persue in Wayfinder.


    +1 for a sourcebook about Golarion's fashions, architecture, cuisines, and the like.

    Even what kind of foods are readily available in various areas, taking into account both locally-produced food and what is easily (or not so easily) imported from other regions. Which country/countries supply the vanilla pods, the cinnamon bark, the black peppercorns, the ginger rhizomes, etc.?

    Are there sumptuary laws in some places - to make sure that nouveau riche up-starts don't out-stage ancient houses, or that the expensive import habits of silk-enthused rich folks don't ruin a country's economy?

    Has anyone with good knowledge of minerals, etc., looked at Golarion's geology and indicated where one is most likely to find certain metals, gems, and the like? (Okay, admittedly in a magic-rich world there is the possibility of messing up the laws of geology, particularly if elemental beings are involved ...)


    Brodyz wrote:
    I would buy an entire book filled with immersive details. Regional menus, popular plays, clothing trends, etc filled with art...sign me up.

    I'd buy two!


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    walter mcwilliams wrote:

    +1

    I think this would be a great project to persue in Wayfinder.

    That's a great idea, actually...as much as I'd love to see this as an official Paizo Product, if it's not going to be as profitable, doing a series of Wayfinder Articles would be a terrifffic second choice


    gigglestick wrote:
    walter mcwilliams wrote:

    +1

    I think this would be a great project to persue in Wayfinder.

    That's a great idea, actually...as much as I'd love to see this as an official Paizo Product, if it's not going to be as profitable, doing a series of Wayfinder Articles would be a terrifffic second choice

    That could be awesome! A Wayfinder issue dedicated to "Daily Life" if the idea of "Fashions of Golarion" would be too limited.

    Of course, consider the 21 iconics (I'm including the Samurai, the Ninja, and the Gunslinger) drawn in:

  • Everyday clothing
  • Adventuring gear (what they might actually wear for some) - i'm looking at Alahazra, Amiri, Freiya, & Seoni for this.
  • Formal Attire
  • (for some) "In-Character" fanservice attire (such as might be worn to a Swallowtail festival or similar "county faire") If you've been to a Renaissance Pleasure Faire you should know exactly what I mean.

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