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TarkXT wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
No, but you may oppose Stalin.
So I'm a paladin of...HITLER!?!

No, but he may have had some Anti-paladins.


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Even Hell knights are not normally aligned with him, much less paladins.

Um, actually a whole lot are. The ORder of the Godclaw specifically mark him as one of their lawful pantheon.

Granted you don't find too many paladin hellknights either.


TarkXT wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Even Hell knights are not normally aligned with him, much less paladins.

Um, actually a whole lot are. The ORder of the Godclaw specifically mark him as one of their lawful pantheon.

Granted you don't find too many paladin hellknights either.

Umm No, the Godclaw take some of his teachings ( along with most of the Lawful gods) to distill what they think is a book of perfect Law.He is no more worshiped inside the Godclaw then any of the Others really. The Hellknights look to the legions of hell as inspirations of order and discipline, but do not serve hell or its master.


what are the chances a true follower of asmodeus is high up in the hierarchy of the crusade against the world wound, and has a paladin effectively under his command? i mean, paladins may likely disobey an order that they see as un-just, but if the orders are mostly revolving around how to kill the demons, i suspect they will fit right in and play their role in the crusade against the demons.

EDIT: crap... i posted here again :-P


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
The Hellknights look to the legions of hell as inspirations of order and discipline, but do not serve hell or its master.

This is partly true. Particularly the farther away from Chelaxian Empire you get. But that is not to say there are not many worshipers of Asmodeus among the hellknights particularly within the Chelaxian Empire. Heck one of the first encounters players have with them in one AP is a cleric of him.


Quandary wrote:

what are the chances a true follower of asmodeus is high up in the hierarchy of the crusade against the world wound, and has a paladin effectively under his command? i mean, paladins may likely disobey an order that they see as un-just, but if the orders are mostly revolving around how to kill the demons, i suspect they will fit right in and play their role in the crusade against the demons.

EDIT: crap... i posted here again :-P

He is working for the non Asmodeus aligned order, not Asmodeus or his follower.


TarkXT wrote:


This is partly true. Particularly the farther away from Chelaxian Empire you get. But that is not to say there are not many worshipers of Asmodeus among the hellknights particularly within the Chelaxian Empire. Heck one of the first encounters players have with them in one AP is a cleric of him.

All in the order, and yes his cleric will be among them, but so are clerics of other gods. There is more then one order after all. And some orders are lead by paladins, they do not serve him. He simply does not control the Hell knights.


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
TarkXT wrote:


This is partly true. Particularly the farther away from Chelaxian Empire you get. But that is not to say there are not many worshipers of Asmodeus among the hellknights particularly within the Chelaxian Empire. Heck one of the first encounters players have with them in one AP is a cleric of him.

All in the order, and yes his cleric will be among them, but so are clerics of other gods. There is more then one order after all. And some orders are lead by paladins, they do not serve him. He simply does not control the Hell knights.

You stated that there would not be a lot of worshipers of Asmodeus among them. I'm just stating that there are. It's more accurate to say you are unlikely to find too many worshipers of Iomedae among them as one thing they do not teach in Hellknight, you either graduate or die horribly, academy is mercy. Though I can imagine tons of Abadar worshipers.


TarkXT wrote:
So, can you be a paladin of....STALIN?

Not being a scholar of 1930's era russian history, I went looking to see if there were any other not quite friendly states he gave support to because they were even more unfriendly to an enemy and found better It looks like you were trying to equate Stalin with Asmodeus... so lets go...

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nder the Soviet government people benefited from some social liberalization. Girls were given an adequate, equal education and women had equal rights in employment,improving lives for women and families. Stalinist development also contributed to advances in health care, which significantly increased the lifespan and quality of life of the typical Soviet citizen. Stalin's policies granted the Soviet people universal access to healthcare and education, effectively creating the first generation free from the fear of typhus, cholera, and malaria. he occurrences of these diseases dropped to record low numbers, increasing life spans by decades.

Soviet women under Stalin were the first generation of women able to give birth in the safety of a hospital, with access to prenatal care.Education was also an example of an increase in standard of living after economic development. The generation born during Stalin's rule was the first near-universally literate generation. Millions benefited from mass literacy campaigns in the 1930s, and from workers training schemes. Engineers were sent abroad to learn industrial technology, and hundreds of foreign engineers were brought to Russia on contract. Transport links were improved and many new railways built. Workers who exceeded their quotas, Stakhanovites, received many incentives for their work, they could afford to buy the goods that were mass-produced by the rapidly expanding Soviet economy.

So were those teachers, doctors, scientists, and regular people getting job training evil? What about the people that learned to read? How far does one need to go in order to not be evil? Try to pick your shock value cards better next time, this level of sillyness is no fun at all. You just gave me the excuse to show a bunch of good real world people working (ultimately) for a person often considered to be "terrible".


The God claw is the place I think ya would find the most clerics really as they are a kinda faith based order. I do agree I see a ton of Adabar's folks in the ranks as well.

Never trust the LN types, they scare me :)


tetrasodium wrote:
You just gave me the excuse to show a bunch of good real world people working (ultimately) for a person often considered to be "terrible"

So how many of those were paladins? How many Lived by the very strict and unyielding paladin code? And how many thought he was a god that granted them magical powers and took souls to hell to torment for all time?

All that doers is explain people in cheilix, not paladins who would auto fall for serving hell.


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
tetrasodium wrote:
You just gave me the excuse to show a bunch of good real world people working (ultimately) for a person often considered to be "terrible"

So how many of those were paladins? How many Lived by the very strict and unyielding paladin code? And how many thought he was a god that granted them magical powers and took souls to hell to torment for all time?

All that doers is explain people in cheilix, not paladins who would auto fall for serving hell.

Likely about as many of them as there were humans with deific levels in the 1930's. People are claiming that working for or gaining power from Asmodeus to use against a shared enemy in ways that ultimately benefits the goals of both parties is evil... However it is no more evil than the aforementioned teachers, doctors, and students/workers who were let into the topic when someone tried to play the shock value card hoping to illicit enough shock to stun people into speechlessness. If the mere act of working for/with someone evil against a common foe (influenza, illiteracy, demons, etc) is evil, then so are those Teachers, students, doctors and Sarenrae are as well using the exact same logic.


You are failing to understand the Paladins code. He can not help to spread evil. And yes working with the Big A helps to spread evil. Every time you do any good in the Big A's name you spread his name, his teachings, his churches power and you fuel Hell. You help damn innocents to the pits, you help spread tyranny make the legions of hell stronger even as you spread corruption.

Something a paladin simply can not do,the paladin's code forbids it. It is a line he simply can not cross and stay a paladin.


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seekerofshadowlight wrote:

You are failing to understand the Paladins code. He can not help to spread evil. And yes working with the Big A helps to spread evil. Every time you do any good in the Big A's name you spread his name, his teachings, his churches power and you fuel Hell. You help damn innocents to the pits, you help spread tyranny make the legions of hell stronger even as you spread corruption.

Something a paladin simply can not do,the paladin's code forbids it. It is a line he simply can not cross and stay a paladin.

*Bzzt*

The code:
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Code of Conduct:A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class features except proficiencies if she ever willingly commits an evil act.
Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.
Associates: While she may adventure with good or neutral allies, a paladin avoids working with evil characters or with anyone who consistently offends her moral code. Under exceptional circumstances, a paladin can ally with evil associates[i], but only [i]to defeat what she believes to be a greater evil. A paladin should seek an atonement spell periodically during such an unusual alliance, and should end the alliance immediately should she feel it is doing more harm than good.

Lets look into the fall:
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A paladin who ceases to be lawful good, who willfully commits an evil act, or who violates the code of conduct loses...

An evil act... hmmm... lets check out what is evil...
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GOOD VS. EVIL

Good characters and creatures protect innocent life. Evil characters and creatures debase or destroy innocent life, whether for fun or profit.

“Good” implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.

“Evil” implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient. Others actively pursue evil, killing for sport or out of duty to some evil deity or master.

People who are neutral with respect to good and evil have compunctions against killing the innocent but lack the commitment to make sacrifices to protect or help others. Neutral people are committed to others by personal relationships. A neutral person may sacrifice himself to protect his family or even his homeland, but he would not do so for strangers who are not related to him.

Being good or evil can be a conscious choice, as with the paladin who attempts to live up to her ideals or the evil cleric who causes pain and terror to emulate his god. For most people, though, being good or evil is an attitude that one recognizes but does not choose. Being neutral on the good–evil axis usually represents a lack of commitment one way or the other, but for some it represents a positive commitment to a balanced view. While acknowledging that good and evil are objective states, not just opinions, these folk maintain that a balance between the two is the proper place for people, or at least for them.

Animals and other creatures incapable of moral action are neutral rather than good or evil. Even deadly vipers and tigers that eat people are neutral because they lack the capacity for morally right or wrong behavior.

Nope... looks like RAW still doesn't support you at all, The fact that RAW technically allows it thanks to a number of loopholes would please Asmodeus greatly going from what is known about him ;) You may feel that it "should" be evil and the fact that it is not woud be a flaw in the alignment system... but I have another thread about flaws in the alignment system that I'm sure would welcome you. Since you bring it to this point.... Technically corrtupting people is not even evil by RAW if it does not hurt, or debase, or destroy them!


I'm so going to enjoy my Anti-Paladin of Sarenrae now.


TarkXT wrote:
I'm so going to enjoy my Anti-Paladin of Sarenrae now.

Looks like no, but for different reasons

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Antipaladins become the antithesis of their former

selves. They make pacts with fiends, [/i]take the lives of the innocent[/i], and put nothing ahead of their personal
power and wealth. Champions of evil, they often lead
armies of evil creatures and work with other villains
to bring ruin to the holy and tyranny to the weak. Not
surprisingly, paladins stop at nothing to put an end to
such nefarious antiheroes.

I guess you could just ignore that flavor blurb and not do it... but lets kjeep going
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Alignment: Chaotic evil

She's NG & might take issue with the clah unless you can find a common enemy... heck.. your antipaladin would be a common enemy to LG Paladinsw, Sarenrae, and asmodeus... but maybe you could find an archdemon to grant you power... except there are no divine nes like asmodeus the archdevil is . I guess maybe Rovagug wqould offer you support... hmm... if only you could convince Asmodeus to give you the key and let him out from the prison that he himself sealed and keeps sealed... Oops... guess not!
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Code of Conduct: An antipaladin must be of chaotic evil alignment and loses all class features except proficiencies if he willingly and altruistically commits good acts. This does not mean that an antipaladin cannot take actions someone else might qualify as good, only that such actions must always be in service of his own dark ends. An antipaladin’s code requires that he place his own interests and desires above all else, as well as impose tyranny, take advantage whenever possible, and punish the good and just, provided such actions don’t interfere with his goals.

Ex-ASntipaladins:An antipaladin who ceases to be chaotic evil, who willfully commits an good act, or who violates the code of conduct
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Pretty strict code,are you able to name a common enemy of Sarenrae anda CE anti-paladin that she has an active interest in getting rid of by employing /helping a CE antipaladin that she can not trust and could not deal withusing her own supporters/forces. Given her NG "do good things... because" thing I think it's going to be tough to find something to fit the bill, she'the antipaladin/Sarenrae duo is not at all analogous to the paladin/Asmodeus duo for lots and lots of reasons due to the stripping of law from the equation.. I guess you could try to find a CG god who has a a longstanding feud with a LG god... can't think of any though & killing an evil creature is a good deed by RAW ;).
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Like I said earlier... Big A might be the only deity where the good/evil teamup can possibly work due to the whole devil/demon conflict thing and devils are technically the lesser evil since corruption can be resisted and healed a whole lot laser than the demon's death & distruction


Good catch I should have picked Milani.

DON'T ENCROACH ON MY FREEDOM TO WANTONLY KILL PALADINS OF ASMODEUS!!!

THIS BELT OF BABY SKULLS WAS RIPPED FROM THE CHILDREN OF SLAVERS DO NOT JUDGE ME!!

I WILL KILL ALL THE HELLKNIGHTS FOLLOWED BY ALL THE CHELAXIAN NOBLES!! I WILL BURN THE PRISONS AND RELEASE THE PRISONERS!!


TarkXT wrote:

Good catch I should have picked Milani.

DON'T ENCROACH ON MY FREEDOM TO WANTONLY KILL PALADINS OF ASMODEUS!!!

THIS BELT OF BABY SKULLS WAS RIPPED FROM THE CHILDREN OF SLAVERS DO NOT JUDGE ME!!

I WILL KILL ALL THE HELLKNIGHTS FOLLOWED BY ALL THE CHELAXIAN NOBLES!! I WILL BURN THE PRISONS AND RELEASE THE PRISONERS!!

Horrific Epic Failure. The need to impose Tyranny is part of the antipaladin code! Milani "is the patron of all those who fight against oppression and unjust rule" did you even look at her before you made that silly post? You still need to find a shared enemy that is good though since killing anything evil would cause your antipaladin to fall by committing an act of good.


Paladin of Asmodeus you say? (not my story)

We had a campaign in D&D where we assembled a steampunk-ish time machine. After many sessions travelling through time, uncovering mysteries and learning harsh lessons about changing history, we had to stop a time-travelling cult from destroying the gods, and therefore the world. We failed.

Our machine crashed, we were stranded earlier than we had ever been able to travel. We found the Gods, but only a few of them were present- it was as if some had never existed. Then we realised- we had to become those Gods. Our party was entirely divine (Cleric, Paladin, Avenger, Invoker), and each of us was a worshipper of a god who had been unmade- and we were only people in existance with enough knowledge of forgotten deities to assume their roles.

But two of the players were worshippers of Io (in his twin forms of Tiamat and Bahamut, who of course would form later after Io's 'death'), and only one could become Io. The other would have to be the un-created Asmodeus.

So the most just, honourable and dedicated Lawful Good Paladin I've ever seen roleplayed became the god of tyranny and evil. If he hadn't, the gods would never have defeated the primordials, and the world would never have been completed.

In our setting, Asmodeus is every bit the epitome of evil you would expect him to be. Nobody but the gods who abide his presence know him as otherwise. He adheres to his role because he knows he has to- and that in doing so, the world can exist. He can never tell anyone his duty, and noone who knows can ever discuss it.

In the farthest recesses of the Nine Hells, in a chamber sealed tighter than any other in existance is a pocketwatch of finest gnome craft with a photo of his family in it- his wife, son and little baby girl.

They were killed by an orc army marching under the orders and banner of Asmodeus. Their deaths are what drove him to become an adventurer.


tetrasodium wrote:
TarkXT wrote:

Good catch I should have picked Milani.

DON'T ENCROACH ON MY FREEDOM TO WANTONLY KILL PALADINS OF ASMODEUS!!!

THIS BELT OF BABY SKULLS WAS RIPPED FROM THE CHILDREN OF SLAVERS DO NOT JUDGE ME!!

I WILL KILL ALL THE HELLKNIGHTS FOLLOWED BY ALL THE CHELAXIAN NOBLES!! I WILL BURN THE PRISONS AND RELEASE THE PRISONERS!!

Horrific Epic Failure. The need to impose Tyranny is part of the antipaladin code! Milani "is the patron of all those who fight against oppression and unjust rule" did you even look at her before you made that silly post? You still need to find a shared enemy that is good though since killing anything evil would cause your antipaladin to fall by committing an act of good.

STOP OPPRESSING ME!! *stab stab stab*


To step out of the hilarity for a moment(warning site NSFW).

You're blatantly ignoring two particular aspects about the two parties.

1st. Asmodeus preaches tyranny and slavery. This is no secret he doesn't lie to people about it.

2nd. Paladins must pu nish those who allow harm come to innocents and help those in need.

No matter how you butter it tyranny and slavery harm those who are innocent and cause pain and suffering this is esepcially the case where Asmodeus is concerned.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend does not apply here. He's still your enemy he just happens to be charging at another enemy. A paladin is not a soldier, scientist, or worker, he's a pinnacle of righteousness and good empowered by faith and will to do what is right. Asmodeus doesn't stop being evil because he happens to like killing another evil guy, he's simply evil given another form. Like Desna is the good of freedom, or Cayden Cailean is the good of having a gun time, or Iomedae is the good crusade for a righteous cause. Asmodeus represents lawyers who tie you up in red tape, he's the contractor who writes tiny lettered sub clauses that sign over your first born son, Asmodeus is the iron handed tyrant, the cruel enforcer, and the slave master.

For him all alliances are temporary conveniences all friends are pawns. His ways are silver tongued, long term, and subtle in the extreme. If you think for one moment that you have found a friend in Asmodeus you have only walked into his claws willingly.

Remember how I mentioned Stalin? If you keep reading your history you'll understand his bodycount is much higher than Hitler. You'll get the idea that he basically conquered all the territories that the Russians ran over and made them his own. His own party was terrified to be the ones that stopped clapping first when he entered the room for fear he'd notice and send them and their families to the Gulags to die. He had his predecessor mummified and put on display against the mans wishes out of spite. Stalin was not a nice man by any stretch of the imagination. All tyrants have done their country some modicum of good, if they had not they would not have been tyrants for long.

tl;dr A paladin who knowingly crusades in the name of a deity that openly espouses harm to others is not a paladin.


Sorry no, Raw does not support you. You can not work or allies with the KING OF HELL.

Code of Conduct:A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class features except proficiencies if she ever willingly commits an evil act.
Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.

See bold parts. All help you give to Asmodues is in the end used to spread his faith and his control. Which is evil. By the code you should not be helping his church but punishing them as they threaten and harm the innocent on a daily base.

You also forgot the part where if the paladin does allie with an evil person for dire need she paladin should seek an atonement spell periodically during such an unusual alliance, and should end the alliance immediately should she feel it is doing more harm than good.

Any help to the church of Asmodues always does more harm then good. Always.Its not a mortal evil that you are helping to over come a bigger threat. He is a bigger threat, As much so as a Demon Lord( ok much more so then a demon lord as he plays the long game).

Minor demon vs helping the King of hell with his long term goals.You are helping something more evil and doing more harm then the thing you are putting down.

By the code you simply can not.

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TarkXT wrote:

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To step out of the hilarity for a moment(warning site NSFW).

You're blatantly ignoring two particular aspects about the two parties.

1st. Asmodeus preaches tyranny and slavery. This is no secret he doesn't lie to people about it.

2nd. Paladins must pu nish those who allow harm come to innocents and help those in need.

No matter how you butter it tyranny and slavery harm those who are innocent and cause pain and suffering this is esepcially the case where Asmodeus is concerned.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend does not apply here. He's still your enemy he just happens to be charging at another enemy. A paladin is not a soldier, scientist, or worker, he's a pinnacle of righteousness and good empowered by faith and will to do what is right. Asmodeus doesn't stop being evil because he happens to like killing another evil guy, he's simply evil given another form. Like Desna is the good of freedom, or Cayden Cailean is the good of having a gun time, or Iomedae is the good crusade for a righteous cause. Asmodeus represents lawyers who tie you up in red tape, he's the contractor who writes tiny lettered sub clauses that sign over your first born son, Asmodeus is the iron handed tyrant, the cruel enforcer, and the slave master.

For him all alliances are temporary conveniences all friends are pawns. His ways are silver tongued, long term, and subtle in the extreme. If you think for one moment that you have found a friend in Asmodeus you have only walked into his claws willingly.

Remember how I mentioned Stalin? If you keep reading your history you'll understand his bodycount is much higher than Hitler. You'll get the idea that he basically conquered all the territories that the Russians ran over and made them his own. His own party was terrified to be the ones that stopped clapping first when he entered the room for fear he'd notice and send them and their families to the Gulags to die. He had his predecessor mummified and put on display against the...

I put your entire post in quotes because it was already pointed out as incorrect, I'll do so again and make it more clear this time since you put the effort into forming a potentially logical argument even if it does fail to take RAW into account, spoiler tags for size.

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Code of Conduct:A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class features except proficiencies if she ever willingly commits an evil act.
Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.
Associates: While she may adventure with good or neutral allies, a paladin avoids working with evil characters or with anyone who consistently offends her moral code. Under exceptional circumstances, a paladin can ally with evil associates[i], but only [i]to defeat what she believes to be a greater evil. A paladin should seek an atonement spell periodically during such an unusual alliance, and should end the alliance immediately should she feel it is doing more harm than good.

a supporter of Tyranny & Slavery willing to give you power to use against a shared foe supporting/engaging in death & destruction is certainly the lesser of the two evils since death & destruction tend to be a lot more permanent and difficult to undo than tyranny & slavery. A slave is still alive to be rescued and set free later, a corpse can not be however.
You really need to start reading the wording of some of the things you contest in your footstomping against the idea of paladins of Asnmodeus before hitting post... It's starting to look like you are throwing out horrifically flawed points just so they can be knocked down in support of the idea..


He isn't a lesser evil. That's the entire point. He is simply evil ina different form.

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*sips his juice*


TriOmegaZero wrote:
*sips his juice*

I just walked into a paladin alignment argument didn't I?

Shadow Lodge

1. Is seeker involved?
2. Has he said anything about holy warriors?
3. If so, yes.


TOZ wrote:

1. Is seeker involved?

2. Has he said anything about holy warriors?
3. If so, yes.

G~@+#!it.


I simply disagree, you can not support the king of hell over a minor demon.He simply is the greater of the two evils. Devils will kill, main and corrupt as much as demons. Asmodues takes human sacrifices, his servants main and murder and torment just as much as any demon. They are both utter evils, just different sides of the same coin with the same end result.

In the end helping him helps spread evil, binding soul corrupting, human sacrificing evil. His goal is no less evil then that of demons, his is just more orderly is all.Its like working side by side with a brutal, violet drug cartel to hunt a single dealer.

And the cartel you just allied with plays the long game, is more organized, better controlled and more connected then the random and in the end minor foe you hunt with them. And all the awhile you spread their teaching among the very people they want to corrupt, turn and kill.

It is simply not the lesser of two evils, its the fast fix for the bigger evils gain, and they will use you to help them spread their evil along the way.

A What it comes down to is : Are you helping Hell and its master to damn souls?

And if you work with them, helping them use any deed you do to spread the faith, the answer is yes you are.

Now if you would like to change the code then it might work but as long as it is written as it is, you can not serve him or his goals without falling as you are harming far more then helping.


TOZ wrote:

1. Is seeker involved?

2. Has he said anything about holy warriors?
3. If so, yes.

1:Yes

2: No
3: still yes

Currently we are debating if you can feed souls to the legions of hell by working for the king of hell and that not be a not good act.

Seems just because some one is the King of hell, demands human scarfices and souls, enjoys corrupting mortals and is the Master of all devils...he is not that bad a guy once ya get to know him


"Which is true really, Oh sure the Big A cheats at cards and is a hell of a womanizer. But he has a really nice singing voice and makes a Divan rack of Halfling BBQ"

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seekerofshadowlight wrote:


1:Yes
2: No

Whoops, mixed up my paladin threads!

We've had a bumper crop of them lately.


TOZ wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:


1:Yes
2: No

Whoops, mixed up my paladin threads!

We've had a bumper crop of them lately.

Yep,this is the monthly "Paladin of Satan" thread.


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
TOZ wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:


1:Yes
2: No

Whoops, mixed up my paladin threads!

We've had a bumper crop of them lately.

Yep,this is the monthly "Paladin of Satan" thread.

Oh good was afraid I'd have to find the nerdrage ooze to wipe out the evidence here.


TarkXT wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
TOZ wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:


1:Yes
2: No

Whoops, mixed up my paladin threads!

We've had a bumper crop of them lately.

Yep,this is the monthly "Paladin of Satan" thread.
Oh good was afraid I'd have to find the nerdrage ooze to wipe out the evidence here.

No, No this is a monthly event. Expect the next one some time in October.

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Hey, let's tone down the spite, aight.

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Set wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:


(And, technically, acting like your deity is sacrilegious, so even a cleric shouldn't act *too much* like his deity. One is supposed to obey and honor one's deity, not cosplay as them.)

That's the primary reason you don't see a lot of cosplay Jesus outfits in the bible belt.

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Nathan Nasif wrote:
Hey, let's tone down the spite, aight.

...I don't understand.


we have had spite? I though we were having a lively debate. If you think this is spiteful, I feel sorry for ya if ya wonder into some of the more....argumentative threads.

We haven't even had any comments deleted yet!


Set wrote:

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Thank you, excellent post :). I think I've about got what I needed from the naysayers, they can congratulate themselves for making it easier and more likely for me to help with putting my considered idea dinto motion own the road by giving me a bunch of silly arguments I know that I know how to effortlessly kick out their supports without pause when presented to me or my rogue.

I guess they can be proud of themselves for helping to make sure the original idea can come to ligh-.. err... the warm shady embrace of darkness :)


Set wrote:

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We should really have an 'Advice' forum, where people can ask for ideas about how to expand their game, and not be shouted down about badwrongfun or whatever.
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I did not see that anywhere. Asmodeus is an evil tricky bastard. Everything you do promotes his agenda even if the mortal mind can not grasp it. Remember the guy is immortal. The results of your works may not come to fruition until 1000 years from now, but that does not make them any less evil.


To many people just don't give the sneaky bastard the credit he is due. He didn't lock the Rough Beast away out of goodness or for others well being, he still is milking that little binding agreement for all its worth. And if he can pull one over on other gods, what makes them think mortals have any chance at all.

Poor, diluted fools.


tetrasodium wrote:


Thank you, excellent post :). I think I've about got what I needed from the naysayers, they can congratulate themselves for making it easier and more likely for me to help with putting my considered idea dinto motion own the road by giving me a bunch of silly arguments I know that I know how to effortlessly kick out their supports without pause when presented to me or my rogue.

I guess they can be proud of themselves for helping to make sure the original idea can come to ligh-.. err... the warm shady embrace of darkness :)

seekerofshadowlight wrote:


Poor, deluded fools.

Think that sums up everything that needs to be said rather nicely.

Also fixed that for you.

Shadow Lodge

seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Poor, diluted fools.

Yes, the concentrate has had too much water added to it indeed. :)


TOZ wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Poor, diluted fools.
Yes, the concentrate has had too much water added to it indeed. :)

All part of the plan, all part of the plan.

Shadow Lodge

And now you've deluded yourself into thinking you have a plan!


TOZ wrote:
And now you've deluded yourself into thinking you have a plan!

What if the plan was to ruin your juice?

Grand Lodge

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TarkXT wrote:


What if the plan was to ruin your juice?

FOUL!


TriOmegaZero wrote:
TarkXT wrote:


What if the plan was to ruin your juice?
FOUL!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

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