Can you enchant clothing / robes like normal armor?


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I don't know if this was addressed, but somebody chimed in earlier that magic armor adds an enhancement bonus to your AC. It doesn't; it adds to the armor bonus of the armor. +5 Padded armor offers a +6 armor bonus to AC. Otherwise you couldn't benefit from magic armor and shields at the same time.

As to monks with enchanted clothing, I like the idea and would likely allow it but I don't see it working RAW - even if clothing is considered to have 0 ASF, 0 ACP, and no max Dex bonus, an Armor item has to belong to a weight category, all of which block a Monk's abilities (except Evasion).

Go nuts with it as a Wondrous item, though. Bracers of armor, except on your clothes, or whatever.


Bizbag wrote:
I don't know if this was addressed, but somebody chimed in earlier that magic armor adds an enhancement bonus to your AC. It doesn't; it adds to the armor bonus of the armor. +5 Padded armor offers a +6 armor bonus to AC. Otherwise you couldn't benefit from magic armor and shields at the same time.

Not quite correct. Magic armor adds an enhancement bonus to the armor bonus, and a magic shield adds an enhancement bonus to the shield bonus, which is why they both stack just fine.

Scarab Sages

Mike Schneider wrote:
HaraldKlak wrote:
Apart from that, as others mention Bracers of Armor gives the rules (and price) for granting an armor value to a non-armor item.

(Bracers, again, are wondrous items.)

The thing which renders the whole discussion moot is this: any clothing granted an armor class and worn by a (non-Sohei) monk would immediately "turn off" is flurry and innate AC bonuses. IOW, he loses more than he gains.

Incorrect

Clothing is not classified as light, medium or heavy armor, regardless of enchantment.

The resulting item would work the same as bracers of armor, and have the same effect on the monk's abilities.


Indeed. The problem here is that everyone is arguing two separate points and mixing them together.

Normal clothing cannot receive ARMOR enchantments, but may receive any other enchantments that aren't bound to a specific type of item.

You can enchant normal clothing as you would any other wondrous item.

No you cannot enchant clothing like armor, but you can still enchant clothing.

Example if I'm still not being clear enough:
Can you enchant normal clothing to have fortification? No. Can you enchant clothing to have a spell listed underneath the permanency spell list? Yes. Can you enchant clothing with any enchantment that doesn't have a requirement such as being a piece of armor/weapon? Yes.

Scarab Sages

Clothing could be enchanted to grant Fortification, just like Bracers of Armor.

What would be more difficult would be the addition of armor properties with a set gold piece value, as Bracers of Armor are ineligible.


I don't know that much about how bracers or armor work that much, or how far they go in terms of "acting as armor for enchantments." Though, are bracers considered wondrous items rather than actual armor?


Artanthos wrote:

Clothing could be enchanted to grant Fortification, just like Bracers of Armor.

What would be more difficult would be the addition of armor properties with a set gold piece value, as Bracers of Armor are ineligible.

I don't know that I agree. Fortification, and other enhancements like those, specify that they must be placed on armor. Clothing is not armor - it's clothing; it doesn't meet the basic criteria for the enhancement, which is that the item being enhanced be armor.


Gherrick wrote:
Bizbag wrote:
I don't know if this was addressed, but somebody chimed in earlier that magic armor adds an enhancement bonus to your AC. It doesn't; it adds to the armor bonus of the armor. +5 Padded armor offers a +6 armor bonus to AC. Otherwise you couldn't benefit from magic armor and shields at the same time.
Not quite correct. Magic armor adds an enhancement bonus to the armor bonus, and a magic shield adds an enhancement bonus to the shield bonus, which is why they both stack just fine.

What's wrong about what I said? An enhancement bonus on armor increases the total armor bonus of the user. If wearing +5 Padded, the wearer has +6 armor bonus to AC.

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Clothing is not classified as light, medium or heavy armor, regardless of enchantment.

Right. Because it's not an armor item, so it doesn't use armor enhancements.

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