Reskinned monk as a Duelist


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So I want to play a full on swashbuckler hero with no armor and a rapier/dirk combo.

What I'm thinking is leaving the mechanics of Monk alone but having things count-as or reskinned as...
So his Flurry of blows, while technically unarmed, would thematically be with rapier and dirk. and in play I would only use this ability if I took the time to withdraw my weapons and would not do so if was actually unarmed. Alternatively could call a kama a rapier if i ever wanted to strike with a magic weapon.

Some of the more MONK-like abiliites don't really translate as well but would any DM's have a problem with this?


see the weapon master archtype


I'm sorry I've only really read the main core book so far. Where is that found?

Sovereign Court

I think its a very interesting idea. Its vary similiar to alot of the archetypes that were designed for the monk, rule wise. Lore wise, not so much. Alot of the archetypes that are designed for the monk do follow how monks throughtout history have fought, especially the zen archer.

However, the only problem I can forsee is that some DM's might want you to look into the idea of running a swashbuckler as a rogue, because not only do rogues have the look and feel of a swashbuckler, but they also have the archetype for it.

As a DM, I would let you run it. Personally, if it was my character, I would run it as a rogue, better abilities IMO


BltzKrg242 wrote:
I'm sorry I've only really read the main core book so far. Where is that found?

Ultimate combat I think.


I once had a PC monk who worshiped Cayden Calien(?) and I allowed him to flurry with a rapier seeing as that was the chosen gods favored weapon. Cayden would work just fine with a swashbuckler type character as a diety (there aren't many adventurers his personality doesn't go well with).


Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
BltzKrg242 wrote:
I'm sorry I've only really read the main core book so far. Where is that found?
Ultimate combat I think.

If you're talking about Weapon Adept, it's actually in the Advanced Player's Guide. LINK


Tierce wrote:

However, the only problem I can forsee is that some DM's might want you to look into the idea of running a swashbuckler as a rogue, because not only do rogues have the look and feel of a swashbuckler, but they also have the archetype for it.

As a DM, I would let you run it. Personally, if it was my character, I would run it as a rogue, better abilities IMO

I'm not thinking he's going to be stealthy and sneaky and backstabby at all.

He's going to wear glaringly loud clothes and a big hat. I want him to have the higher speed and the better AC from the monk class and the ability to multi-attack which is more in line with what I was thinking with this re-skin.

As an Aside I was going to make him a fat elf. Yeah I said it... FAT. Elf.
So any climb checks are right out and his jumping is going to be self nerf'd. He aught to be fun.


pipedreamsam wrote:
I once had a PC monk who worshiped Cayden Calien(?) and I allowed him to flurry with a rapier seeing as that was the chosen gods favored weapon.

I think UC has a feat that allows a monk/cleric to flurry with their deity's favoured weapon. Fun if that happens to be a greatsword or greataxe. There's also another feat for clerics (not sure where) which lets you use wisdom for attack.

Hmm, would a monk that can flurry with a scimitar benefit from taking dervish dance? The feat specifies that you need to have no other weapon or shield in the other hand, but iirc in a flurry you can make all attacks with one weapon as long as it's a monk weapon...


Azten wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
BltzKrg242 wrote:
I'm sorry I've only really read the main core book so far. Where is that found?
Ultimate combat I think.
If you're talking about Weapon Adept, it's actually in the Advanced Player's Guide. LINK

Yea, That.

Grand Lodge

An Elven Falstaff? Interesting.


Helaman wrote:
An Elven Falstaff? Interesting.

And even better I got a hold of the Advanced Book and now he's DEFINITELY going to be a drunken master. He's gonna be awesome!

The best part is that this kit gets rid of all the stuff that didn't really fit with my idea of this character and gave him cool drink flavored abilities to boot.


BltzKrg242 wrote:
Helaman wrote:
An Elven Falstaff? Interesting.

And even better I got a hold of the Advanced Book and now he's DEFINITELY going to be a drunken master. He's gonna be awesome!

The best part is that this kit gets rid of all the stuff that didn't really fit with my idea of this character and gave him cool drink flavored abilities to boot.

Are you still going for the swashbuckler flavor? Or are you going with the concept of an actual drunken master ala jackie chan?


Oh yes, sticking with Swashbuckler all the way. Drunken Master just lets me stay away from the Mystical components that I was questioning anyways.

He'll be a fat, loud, boisterous, loudly dressed, flamboyant, drunken swashbuckler.

With a cape of course. Do they have the Cape Defense feat in Pathfinder that they had in 3.5? Is it translatable and would a monk be able to use it? It's been a while but it let you use a cape as a light shield I think?

Any other flavorful feats/tricks/talents/gear that you might see fitting a character of this design?


Still looking for suggestions on other flavorful feats/tricks/talents/gear that you might see fitting a character of this design?


BltzKrg242 wrote:
Still looking for suggestions on other flavorful feats/tricks/talents/gear that you might see fitting a character of this design?

I would think that if a cloak counts as a shield, it would negate your monk abilities.

Definitely take a look at martial arts feats in ultimate combat.

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