Potion brewing time?


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A question was posed over on RPG Stack Exchange that led me to some confusion. In the Brew Potion feat it states the creation time to be 1 day/1000 gp or 2 hrs if it's under 250.

But in the Magic Item Creation section it says that it takes one day to make a potion, period.

Which is correct? I looked at the FAQ, errata, and searched the forums to no avail.


Brew Potion is correct. However, you can only make a single magic item per day.

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Ernest Mueller wrote:

A question was posed over on RPG Stack Exchange that led me to some confusion. In the Brew Potion feat it states the creation time to be 1 day/1000 gp or 2 hrs if it's under 250.

But in the Magic Item Creation section it says that it takes one day to make a potion, period.

Which is correct? I looked at the FAQ, errata, and searched the forums to no avail.

They are both correct. You can make 1000Gp worth of potion a day and if they are under 250 GP you can make it in 2 hours. There is still the limitation that you can only make 1 magic item a day.


bigkilla wrote:
Ernest Mueller wrote:

A question was posed over on RPG Stack Exchange that led me to some confusion. In the Brew Potion feat it states the creation time to be 1 day/1000 gp or 2 hrs if it's under 250.

But in the Magic Item Creation section it says that it takes one day to make a potion, period.

Which is correct? I looked at the FAQ, errata, and searched the forums to no avail.

They are both correct. You can make 1000Gp worth of potion a day and if they are under 250 GP you can make it in 2 hours. There is still the limitation that you can only make 1 magic item a day.

Although that's not what the creation rules say. They say flatly, "Brewing a potion requires 1 day." So I don't dispute the rules you cite, but the creation rules are then in error, and should be FAQ/errataed.


Ernest Mueller wrote:
Although that's not what the creation rules say. They say flatly, "Brewing a potion requires 1 day." So I don't dispute the rules you cite, but the creation rules are then in error, and should be FAQ/errataed.

Brewing a Potion requires 1 day.*

*except when it is noted then it will take two hours instead of 8.

This is a great example of the PF rules requiring the player/reader to parse multiple sets of information together to form the entire rule.

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Stynkk wrote:
Ernest Mueller wrote:
Although that's not what the creation rules say. They say flatly, "Brewing a potion requires 1 day." So I don't dispute the rules you cite, but the creation rules are then in error, and should be FAQ/errataed.

Brewing a Potion requires 1 day.*

*except when it is noted then it will take two hours instead of 8.

This is a great example of the PF rules requiring the player/reader to parse multiple sets of information together to form the entire rule.

Some potions can actually take longer than 1 day to create.


bigkilla wrote:
Some potions can actually take longer than 1 day to create.

so you are saying that the Magic Item Creation section is in error.

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Stynkk wrote:
bigkilla wrote:
Some potions can actually take longer than 1 day to create.
so you are saying that the Magic Item Creation section is in error.

It states that you can create 1000 GP worth of potions a day, so if you create a potion that costs more than 1000GP would it not take longer than 1 day to create?


bigkilla wrote:
It states that you can create 1000 GP worth of potions a day, so if you create a potion that costs more than 1000GP would it not take longer than 1 day to create?

You're citing what Brew Potion says, not the Magic Item Creation section. So, we're in agreement that the line should be removed or updated from the Creation section.

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Stynkk wrote:
bigkilla wrote:
It states that you can create 1000 GP worth of potions a day, so if you create a potion that costs more than 1000GP would it not take longer than 1 day to create?
You're citing what Brew Potion says, not the Magic Item Creation section. So, we're in agreement that the line should be removed or updated from the Creation section.

They both basically say the same thing.The reason it says brewing a potion takes one day probably takes the fact that you can only work on 1 magic item at any given time and can only create 1 magic item per day. So saying a potion takes 1 day to brew would work for the less than 250 gold piece potion taking two hours and go to the fact that the potion costing more than 1000 GP would take multiple days to craft withh 1000GP worth of progress being made in 1 day since that would be the only magic item you could work on for that day.


Since I'm not doing a good job explaining, here's what Creating Potions says:

PRD - Magic Items - Magic Item Creation wrote:


Creating Potions
The creator of a potion needs a level working surface and at least a few containers in which to mix liquids, as well as a source of heat to boil the brew. In addition, he needs ingredients. The costs for materials and ingredients are subsumed in the cost for brewing the potion: 25 gp × the level of the spell × the level of the caster.

All ingredients and materials used to brew a potion must be fresh and unused. The character must pay the full cost for brewing each potion. (Economies of scale do not apply.)

The imbiber of the potion is both the caster and the target. Spells with a range of personal cannot be made into potions.

The creator must have prepared the spell to be placed in the potion (or must know the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) and must provide any material component or focus the spell requires.

Material components are consumed when he begins working, but a focus is not. (a focus used in brewing a potion can be reused.) The act of brewing triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting until the character has rested and regained spells. (That is, that spell slot is expended from the caster's currently prepared spells, just as if it had been cast.) Brewing a potion requires 1 day.

You will note in this description it does not go into how long potions will take to brew. No 2 hours, no more than 1 day, it simply says "brewing a potion requires 1 day". What it should say is something like: The time to create a potion is variable please consult the Brew Potion feat.

Otherwise, people will say.. oh! one day and may not read the Brew Potion feat to get the rest of the information.

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