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Sadly I do not think I have ever had any.

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The Balvenie's also quite good.


I feel your pain with those inexperienced bar tenders in dealing with single malt scotch. I actually got those very large ice cubes for my scotch at home as I like the water to relase slowly into my scotch and the smaller cubes melt too quickly and water it down too much. This way I have just enough water to relase those wonderful flavors.

When I order in some bars I ask for a cube or two and it is like a shaving of ice which for me melts too quickly. I guess I am particular about my scotch.

I have had 18 year old Macallan and 25 once it was a sublime experience. Charlie have you experienced any of the higher end scotches besides Macallan?

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Hey!!! Macallan drinker me too ;-)

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Nope, but I'm very open to suggestion.

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Mad Badger: You may look into these.


Very Awesome ... though I do like some of the water to release to release but I think I may get these for my father as he likes to keep his scotch without water.

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Because tis the season for scotch drinking need to necro this thread.


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I'll raise you a glass of Edradour!


I still need to drink a Scotch with some friends on the birth of my son, no time jet


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Congratulations, then!


I was very excited a couple of months ago, I needed to pick up a bottle of something on the way to a friends house and the liquor store happened to have Laphroiag 18 on sale for $70 a bottle. It's definitely my favorite scotch to keep around and break out for special occasions... by which I mean any time I want to sit and have a scotch with a friend.

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OK, not scotch--but I got a bottle of Pendleton Canadian whisky as a gift and it's superb.


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There are many correct answers in this thread, but this one is the correctest.


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Scotsman who has never drunk Scotch here.

Wow.

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I like royal salute and johnny walker blue label. Every year for christmas my father gets me a bottle of blue label. Funny thing is he visits more often to play pool.

For an "everyday" scotch I like dewars

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I love me some Edradour.

Also I just won a bottle of Glenmorangie and I have nice bottle of scotch in my cabinet I cant seem to remember then name of right now. I hate when that happens I know exactly what the bottle looks like but can't remember the name. it has a hint of vanilla to it very tasty.


I'd really like to expand from Irish whiskey into Scotch, but the whole affair is just too expensive for me.

My experience with the stuff is limited to Ballantine's (acceptable), Johnny Red (unacceptable), Johnny Black (quite nice) and Racke Rauchzart (German, undrinkable).


Bulleit makes a nice bourbon, particularly for it's price point of ~$20.

I've found bourbon is much easier on the wallet. Scotch, you kind of pay a premium because it's scotch, then another premium depending on the popularity of the name.


Fabius Maximus wrote:

I'd really like to expand from Irish whiskey into Scotch, but the whole affair is just too expensive for me.

My experience with the stuff is limited to Ballantine's (acceptable), Johnny Red (unacceptable), Johnny Black (quite nice) and Racke Rauchzart (German, undrinkable).

Glenkinchie, Thamdu and Glenfiddich 12years are good starting Single Malts that you can get in most German Getränkemärkte for a reasonable prize

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A good stiff drink is better with a good cigar, sadly the local establishments can no longer allow you to risk the secondhand smoke to those busy poisoning their livers...


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Can we keep ideology out of the scotch thread?


aeglos wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:

I'd really like to expand from Irish whiskey into Scotch, but the whole affair is just too expensive for me.

My experience with the stuff is limited to Ballantine's (acceptable), Johnny Red (unacceptable), Johnny Black (quite nice) and Racke Rauchzart (German, undrinkable).

Glenkinchie, Thamdu and Glenfiddich 12years are good starting Single Malts that you can get in most German Getränkemärkte for a reasonable prize

I tried to look up Thamdu and couldn't find it. Are you sure you got the name right?


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aeglos wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:

I'd really like to expand from Irish whiskey into Scotch, but the whole affair is just too expensive for me.

My experience with the stuff is limited to Ballantine's (acceptable), Johnny Red (unacceptable), Johnny Black (quite nice) and Racke Rauchzart (German, undrinkable).

Glenkinchie, Thamdu and Glenfiddich 12years are good starting Single Malts that you can get in most German Getränkemärkte for a reasonable prize
I tried to look up Thamdu and couldn't find it. Are you sure you got the name right?

Could be Tamdhu, which is very nice. I'm partial to Jura as well. But I live in Britain, and don't know what's easily available in other countries.


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Jura is very good.


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Fabius Maximus wrote:
aeglos wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:

I'd really like to expand from Irish whiskey into Scotch, but the whole affair is just too expensive for me.

My experience with the stuff is limited to Ballantine's (acceptable), Johnny Red (unacceptable), Johnny Black (quite nice) and Racke Rauchzart (German, undrinkable).

Glenkinchie, Thamdu and Glenfiddich 12years are good starting Single Malts that you can get in most German Getränkemärkte for a reasonable prize
I tried to look up Thamdu and couldn't find it. Are you sure you got the name right?
Could be Tamdhu, which is very nice. I'm partial to Jura as well. But I live in Britain, and don't know what's easily available in other countries.

yes, Tamdhu

I am not sure anymore that it is widely available but it is my favorite starter whisky


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And if you want a soft start on smokier whiskys, I'd recommend Strathisla - it's a nice bridge to heavier stuff which you'll have to ask someone else about since I don't care for the ones where the peat's too obvious.


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A good stiff drink is better with a good cigar, sadly the local establishments can no longer allow you to risk the secondhand smoke to those busy poisoning their livers...

Scotch is most properly enjoyed in the refined comfort of one's own parlour anyway.


aeglos wrote:
Chief Cook and Bottlewasher wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
aeglos wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:

I'd really like to expand from Irish whiskey into Scotch, but the whole affair is just too expensive for me.

My experience with the stuff is limited to Ballantine's (acceptable), Johnny Red (unacceptable), Johnny Black (quite nice) and Racke Rauchzart (German, undrinkable).

Glenkinchie, Thamdu and Glenfiddich 12years are good starting Single Malts that you can get in most German Getränkemärkte for a reasonable prize
I tried to look up Thamdu and couldn't find it. Are you sure you got the name right?
Could be Tamdhu, which is very nice. I'm partial to Jura as well. But I live in Britain, and don't know what's easily available in other countries.

yes, Tamdhu

I am not sure anymore that it is widely available but it is my favorite starter whisky

You can get all the stuff via Amazon.

And thank you for the recommendations.


I tried Auchentoshen recently and was pretty happy with it.

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Auchentoshen is a nice scotch I have sampled it before.

I also enjoy a good bourbon. Bulleitt is tasty I am almost through my huge bottle purchased on my trip up to New Hampshire. Heading back up in a few weeks might be time to get more of the ambrosia that is scotch and bourbon.

What was everyone's first experience with scotch or bourbon?

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What was everyone's first experience with scotch or bourbon?

Scotch: 9th grade riding my bike to school with my buddies, next thing i know we were laughing on the lawn of a church. An accord was made on that day that school would be put off for another day.


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Brought back a bottle of Redemption Rye from my latest trip out of state, and am quite enjoying it. It's made at the same distillery in Indiana (Lawrenceburg Distillers Indiana, LLC) that also makes Bulleit Rye and George Dickels Rye, both of which are also quite nice.

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Ah Kirth, I know living in PA getting spirits is always tough with those silly laws that any spirits have to be sold in the special state run liquor stores which are not open on Sundays unless that has changed?


Gruumash . wrote:
Ah Kirth, I know living in PA getting spirits is always tough with those silly laws that any spirits have to be sold in the special state run liquor stores which are not open on Sundays unless that has changed?

The state liquor stores are bad enough (+30% markup for state control, +18% for Johnstown Flood Tax, +7% state sales tax = +56% markup on all booze!), but what gets me down is the fact that, if a particular brand isn't on the (very limited) state list, it can't be bought, ordered, or shipped into PA at all.

None of my favorite brands are on the list, which means I have to look for them when I go out of state and then sneak them back in, a bottle at a time.

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Yeah not so fun. Sorry man I feel your pain. I remember the challenges when I lived in PA in college. Beer was never a problem heck they have drive thru places for beer but the spirits .... arghh.


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I used to love single-malts. My dram of choice was Dalmore 18 year.

Unfortunately, there was this wedding I went to a few years ago at which I failed to treat Mr. Johnny Walker with the level of respect he was due. He kicked me hard in the sporran and struck me about the head with his bagpipes. I was a fool to pick a fight with a Scotsman!

I've rather lost my taste for Scotch whisky ever since, and have switched my allegiance to bourbon.

I still have a bottle of Dalmore in my liquor cabinet, and every once in a while I open the bottle to savor its aroma. So far, I've elected to simply put it back on the shelf.

Maybe some day...


Gruumash . wrote:
I lived in PA in college.

Penn State, by any chance?

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Muhlenberg College in Allentown PA.


Didn't know this about Bourbons, but here in the states they aren't required to be aged for the number of years stated on the bottle. They only have to have the characteristics of a whiskey aged that many years.

Breckenridge Distillery makes a very nice bourbon. It's not a terribly complex spirit, and it has a lot of bite at the finish. A splash of water knocks down that bite though and it becomes very smooth. Notes of cinnamon, raisins and butter for me. Around $45 a bottle, it's one of my major go-to's right now.

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Well, as Paizo's resident scotch drinker, I felt I should chime in...

My drinking scotch is usually Aberlour 12, but I do like Glenmorangie and Talisker.

Currently my cabinet has the following: Aberlour 12, Four different bottles of Glenmorangie, Talisker, a bottle of Edradour (direct from the tiny distillery), Achentoshan, Glen Rothes, Balvenie doublewood 12, Oban, Springbank, and an Ardbeg. I am afraid many of the specifics (year, special cask, etc) are alluding me at the moment (as are a few bottles I am sure).

And always neat... no ice, no soda. Neat. Close to body temperature.

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A friend recently taught me a trick that I'm enjoying. Put your palm over the bottle opening, then tip the bottle to wet your palm. Rub your hands together lightly until the liquid dries. Hold your nose at various distances to pick up different portions of the scents, though right now my favorite is to just cup them together over my nose and just breathe it in.

It removes the alcohol portion of the scent and leaves you with everything else, making it easier to pick out various elements.

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I do like a cube or two with my scotch to have a slow dilution of the beverage I feel it brings out the wonderful flavors and the like. But my father is like you Jason. Straight up nothing to change the wonderful nectar. Thank you for chiming in.

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Irontruth wrote:

A friend recently taught me a trick that I'm enjoying. Put your palm over the bottle opening, then tip the bottle to wet your palm. Rub your hands together lightly until the liquid dries. Hold your nose at various distances to pick up different portions of the scents, though right now my favorite is to just cup them together over my nose and just breathe it in.

It removes the alcohol portion of the scent and leaves you with everything else, making it easier to pick out various elements.

Interesting I imagine you can do this with many liquors and perhaps wines? I like the idea and plan to try it thanks for the advice.


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I do like a cube or two with my scotch to have a slow dilution of the beverage I feel it brings out the wonderful flavors and the like. But my father is like you Jason. Straight up nothing to change the wonderful nectar. Thank you for chiming in.

I drink it always straight, according to unwriten scotch whisky law you should drink him always with a drop of water but usually I don't care

ice cubes bring the temprature to far down, that should lessen the taste - but as a German ice cubes in anything but cocktails or longdrinks is very strange to me

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aeglos wrote:
Gruumash . wrote:

I do like a cube or two with my scotch to have a slow dilution of the beverage I feel it brings out the wonderful flavors and the like. But my father is like you Jason. Straight up nothing to change the wonderful nectar. Thank you for chiming in.

I drink it always straight, according to unwriten scotch whisky law you should drink him always with a drop of water but usually I don't care

ice cubes bring the temprature to far down, that should lessen the taste - but as a German ice cubes in anything but cocktails or longdrinks is very strange to me

I will "crack" my scotch on occasion, depending on the blend and the notes. Nothing more than a drop or two of water though.

I also agree, ice makes the scotch too cold, it deadens most of the flavors.

Jason Bulmahn
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It is interesting the Japanese who love the beverage scotch create ice cubes to look like Mount Fuji and swear by that in their scotch.

Again it is a taste thing. I do like the one large cube to enjoy it colder and find the ice does not melt and dilute the flavor as much. I think it depends on my mood.

But I can certainly understand the desire to have it straight with nothing to mess with it.

Either way scotch drinkers of the world unite in their love of scotch.


recently had some usquaebach scotch and I highly recommend


Happened across a miniature tasting from these guys. I wasn't blown away, but it was all good stuff. I picked up a bottle of their double-rye, since I happened to actually be looking for a bottle.

They also operate a ski-in distillery/restaurant in Utah.


Drinking Cu Chulainn Irish Whiskey in honor of St. Patrick's Day.

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