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So for PFS i have come up with a funny idea for a Gnome Druid with the flame domain. Now at 5th level this little guy will have 15 fire resistance. Being on fire is 1D6 every round which means i'll be fine, but what does this mean for natural attacks/unarmed strikes and being grappled/grappling enemies? more to the point, once on fire am i able to spread the love?
As hilarious of an idea (and a title for a topic!) that is, I'm afraid the rules make no mention of dealing fire damage when attacking/grappling. Feel free to convince your DM to allow it, but be aware most DMs (myself included) are going to expect some sort of cost for the ability to add fire damage to everything you do.
I think the important thing to remember is: How are you staying on fire? Either your Fire Resistance makes your gear immune to fire (which it typically does), and thus nothing will be burning, or it doesn't make your gear immune to fire, and all of your gear (including your clothes) will burn up after a couple rounds. Take your pick.
So for PFS i have come up with a funny idea for a Gnome Druid with the flame domain. Now at 5th level this little guy will have 15 fire resistance. Being on fire is 1D6 every round which means i'll be fine, but what does this mean for natural attacks/unarmed strikes and being grappled/grappling enemies? more to the point, once on fire am i able to spread the love?
There isn't any rules support for being able to spread the fire or inflict burn damage. You're basically asking for the burn special ability for free.
If someone tried this at my table I would activate Dick DM mode and point out while you may have fire resist 15, your equipment does not. So, if you wanted to turn yourself into a gnome Molotov cocktail be my guest. :-P
EDIT: I agree this might be novel and cool, but there is a difference between allowing it once and having become a repeating tactic.
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I'm pretty sure you will be disliked by everyone else at the table.
i have discussed this with other players, they like the idea as they also find it hilarious, Thankfully this group prefer roleplaying over rollplaying
I think the important thing to remember is: How are you staying on fire? Either your Fire Resistance makes your gear immune to fire (which it typically does), and thus nothing will be burning, or it doesn't make your gear immune to fire, and all of your gear (including your clothes) will burn up after a couple rounds. Take your pick.
Considering his backstory and the fact that he is a druid, he probably won't care that he is completely naked(although i might not like the lower AC), will discuss these with my GM though. Although this will be a PFS char i have a feeling i'll only be playing it with this GM so his opinion on should do.
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There isn't any rules support for being able to spread the fire or inflict burn damage. You're basically asking for the burn special ability for free.
If someone tried this at my table I would activate Dick DM mode and point out while you may have fire resist 15, your equipment does not. So, if you wanted to turn yourself into a gnome Molotov cocktail be my guest. :-P
EDIT: I agree this might be novel and cool, but there is a difference between allowing it once and having become a repeating tactic.
well i'm not trying to be dick mod here :P, i dunno, 1 point of fire damage with unarmed strikes(torches do something like this) maybe i can set some one on fire when i hold a grapple for a round, although it'd only make sence to apply that when some one grapples the gnome druid, which yeah, that's a little over powered, but hey, reward creativity, even if my gear burns up
Considering his backstory and the fact that he is a druid, he probably won't care that he is completely naked
Yes, but make sure the other players are okay with that. :-P
In all seriousness, though, it's like the previous poster said- there's a difference between using it once (which I would allow) and it becoming a repeating tactic (which I would not allow). Getting something for nothing is rarely allowed- it may be a funny idea, but being able to do something that either requires having a special monster ability (the burn quality) or an incredibly expensive magic item (an Amulet of Mighty Fists that lets you apply fire damage to your unarmed attacks & grapples, which I don't even think exists in the core rules) without having to acquire them the same was as everyone else isn't fair.
So, yeah, ask your DM about it. And if he lets you do it, try not to turn it into your main tactic. I played with someone once who had a spell (Force Wave or something?) that, mechanically, just pushes back the enemies around him. The DM let him combine that with a bag of caltrops to cause damage to all of the enemies around him, and from that point on that was his only tactic in combat, and the DM didn't do anything to stop him. It annoyed me.
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Yes, but make sure the other players are okay with that. :-PIn all seriousness, though, it's like the previous poster said- there's a difference between using it once (which I would allow) and it becoming a repeating tactic (which I would not allow). Getting something for nothing is rarely allowed- it may be a funny idea, but being able to do something that either requires having a special monster ability (the burn quality) or an incredibly expensive magic item (an Amulet of Mighty Fists that lets you apply fire damage to your unarmed attacks & grapples, which I don't even think exists in the core rules) without having to acquire them the same was as everyone else isn't fair.
So, yeah, ask your DM about it. And if he lets you do it, try not to turn it into your main tactic. I played with someone once who had a spell (Force Wave or something?) that, mechanically, just pushes back the enemies around him. The DM let him combine that with a bag of caltrops to cause damage to all of the enemies around him, and from that point on that was his only tactic in combat, and the DM didn't do anything to stop him. It annoyed me.
he is going to be more of casting druid so he'd think that setting himself on fire is more of a defensive move than anything else
By the rules for catching fire if its magical fire your on the following happens
1) no bonus damage for your attacks
2) if you maintain a grapple they would be in danger of catching fire
3) your stuff burns up
Just make sure you're a gnome with the Pyromaniac trait. Tank your Intelligence and perhaps Wisdom to the ground. Combine your love of fire with your love of hugs for a very 'special' gnome.
I could see this working well with, say, a gnome barbarian with the Tantrum feat. Focus on the elemental totem powers, and take the Brutal Pugilist archetype.
"Derp like fire! Derp like hugs, too! But you make Derp mad! RAAAAAAAAGE!"
Just make sure you're a gnome with the Pyromaniac trait. Tank your Intelligence and perhaps Wisdom to the ground. Combine your love of fire with your love of hugs for a very 'special' gnome.
I could see this working well with, say, a gnome barbarian with the Tantrum feat. Focus on the elemental totem powers, and take the Brutal Pugilist archetype.
"Derp like fire! Derp like hugs, too! But you make Derp mad! RAAAAAAAAGE!"
+1 I love this all i can see is an angry Gollum rushing something on fire and grapple hugging its head.
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Assuming your fire resistance extends to your equipment (which it should), I would allow you to achieve this effects for a couple of rounds by pouring an alchemists fire over your head. Otherwise what would be burning? That way there is a cost to using this strategy so you wouldn't do this all the time.
The rules for energy resistence don't give it to your gear just to you.
It depends on the source of the resistance. If I was wearing armor with the Resist Energy (Fire) armor ability, I'd damn well expect my armor to be resistant to fire.
There are also special materials that would be immune to fire, like Dragonhide Armor from a red dragon.
It depends on the source of the resistance. If I was wearing armor with the Resist Energy (Fire) armor ability, I'd damn well expect my armor to be resistant to fire.
There are also special materials that would be immune to fire, like Dragonhide Armor from a red dragon.
No doubt there i was meaning the OP's example.
The rules for energy resistence don't give it to your gear just to you.
No, but the rules for attended objects do. Your stuff only ever takes damage if you take damage from an attack and roll a 1 on a reflex save.
Even disintegrate doesn't hurt your stuff.