Hi
How would you design a Friar Tuck style monk , is there a Archetype in one of the books that would suit?
Many thanks
James
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I'd basically go with a cleric.
One of my biggest problems with using the word "monk" for "guy who knows kung-fu" is that now you have to be overly specific if you just wanna talk about a religious guy who cloisters with other religious guys and does NOT learn kung-fu. Kinda like the NPC class "warrior". Great job guys, now how the hell do I collectively refer to the fighter, barbarian, cavalier, monk, etc? Call them "fighty-guys" ?
So I think the Cloisterd Cleric from UM will suffice , didnt think of the name Cloistered , thanks
James
I'd basically go with a cleric.
One of my biggest problems with using the word "monk" for "guy who knows kung-fu" is that now you have to be overly specific if you just wanna talk about a religious guy who cloisters with other religious guys and does NOT learn kung-fu. Kinda like the NPC class "warrior". Great job guys, now how the hell do I collectively refer to the fighter, barbarian, cavalier, monk, etc? Call them "fighty-guys" ?
Friar Tuck killed every Chuck Norris joke with one Stunning Fist. Beneath the fat, that dude is ripped as hell.
Expert.
Greg
Expert.
Greg
No way.
The Friar tuck of the legends was a warrior monk who made mead... and drank a lot it.
I would definitely draw the good Friar up as a Cleric who focuses on combat. Neutral Good with the Good and Protection domains.
For for fluff's sake I would also give him some knowledge ranks in beekeeping and brewing.
The "historical" Friar Tuck is described as a monk who was thrown out of his monastery for disrespect for authority and is known for his love of alcohol and fine food, so the Drunken Monk archetype might work better.
I would certainly go with Expert: Friar at least initially. Then perhaps taking levels in Warrior or Fighter.
CJ
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I'd basically go with a cleric.
One of my biggest problems with using the word "monk" for "guy who knows kung-fu" is that now you have to be overly specific if you just wanna talk about a religious guy who cloisters with other religious guys and does NOT learn kung-fu. Kinda like the NPC class "warrior". Great job guys, now how the hell do I collectively refer to the fighter, barbarian, cavalier, monk, etc? Call them "fighty-guys" ?
You could rock it old school and call them "Fighting Men." Like in the original original D&D. Or be all new fangled and call them the martial classes. And while I disagree with your point about the warrior (what were they supposed call them? fighty-guys? huh?), I totally agree with your point about the monk. He should really be called a martial artist or a master or something. Especially with the whole default medieval Europe setting of D&D.
To the OP, I'd say it depends on what you mean by a "Friar Tuck like monk." If you mean a character like the one in the Robin Hood stories, expert 1/warrior 2 would cover it. If you mean a fat man in brown robes with a tonsure and minor religious powers as befits the standard fantasy world, a cleric or adept would fit the bill.
I'd make a D&Dified version of Friar Tuck a Cleric 5/Fighter 1 with the Community and Liberation domains.
Expert.
Greg
No way.
The Friar tuck of the legends was a warrior monk who made mead... and drank a lot it.
I would definitely draw the good Friar up as a Cleric who focuses on combat. Neutral Good with the Good and Protection domains.
For for fluff's sake I would also give him some knowledge ranks in beekeeping and brewing.
Guess I wasn't quite grasping the build.
I was agreein' with some profession ranks and some knowledges. Also give him improved unarmed combat and weapon focus Qstaff ( heck,could even give him the new Qstaff feat). But, I still see this as an expert or commoner with a few levels and no magic. Give him a decent Con and he can drink up to his hearty content ( pun intended).
I wasn't thinking it as a D&D world magic caster or ki mystic type. If going that route, make it a cleric follower of Cayden Cailean. Freeing the land from the despotic tyrany kinda guy.
Greg
I was thinking that making your character with an NPC class wouldn't be all that great a thing to do.
and I missed the part it was for a player. So yes, I agree.
Greg
If you are basing a character very directly on Friar Tuck: he is a Fighter (definitely a heroic class, he was one of the Merry Men!) with some kind of multiclass or traits gives him Bluff as a class skill (he lets Robin Hood think he tricked him into carrying him across the river, and then tosses him into it). He is good with the sword and the bow. Likely a high Constitution, and obviously of a Chaotic alignment if he got kicked out of the monastery for disobedience.
If you are trying to create a character who happens to be a cloistered member of a church's clergy, but isn't divinely empowered, make him whatever class you like based on the rest of his concept, and then note on his character sheet that he is a cloistered member of a church's clergy, perhaps giving him the name "Friar" or "Brother" Such-and-Such to drive the point home. "Profession" does not equal "Class," per se. For example, anyone who mixes reagents to make alchemist's fire is probably an "alchemist," but doesn't have to have the Alchemist class (he could well just be an Expert). A Detective doesn't have the "Detective" class, though he may likely have some rogue or bard levels (with or without the "Detective" archetype). I once played a character who described herself as a carpenter, though her PC class was Fighter. A Cleric for that matter may not be a cleric--that is to say, you could be divinely gifted by your deity, but have not actually taken any vows in service of the church, as perhaps you have your own path to follow (and vice versa, a cleric is not required to be a Cleric).
Oddly enough, I've always felt the "Fighter" should have been called "Warrior" (someone who trains from a young age in the fighting arts -- probably as part of a military social class) and the "Warrior" NPC class should have been a "Soldier" (a farm boy or commoner who joins the guard / watch / men at arms in late adolescence and learns the combat arts then). Anyway, you can pretty much call them what you want.
As for Friar Tuck, I'd say a Cloistered Cleric or Cleric. In Robin Hood he had no divine powers, but then no one did in that literary world...
That is the problem with the monk, it is based on shaolin style monks. as posted above, all monks know kung fu. I do allow 'monks' to be any class, titles are just that titles, and can be earned.
I do think other more european style martial arts should be considered, like greek style boxing and wrestling and what not. diffrent style of martial arts besides just asian shoalin style would go further to making the class more intresting and appealing to me IMO
anyways fighter seems to be the most apporpaite for this type of character.
In my opinion? Cloistered Cleric with good physical scores and maybe a level or so of fighter.
On that note, I'm not sure why the Cloistered Cleric archetype was changed so significantly from its Unearthed Arcana incarnation. But that's a separate quibble.