Lay on Hands + Fey Foundling


Rules Questions


Hello everyone! I am soon to be playing a paladin, and came across this feat:

PSRD wrote:


Fey Foundling
Prerequisites: You may only select this feat at 1st level.

Benefit: Your strange connection to the First World and the fey infuses you with life, and whenever you receive magical healing, you heal an additional 2 points per die rolled. You gain a +2 bonus on all saving throws against death effects. Unfortunately, you also suffer +1 point of damage from cold iron weapons (although you can wield cold iron weapons without significant discomfort).

and in combination with this....

Lay On Hands (Su)

PSRD wrote:


Beginning at 2nd level, a paladin can heal wounds (her own or those of others) by touch. Each day she can use this ability a number of times equal to 1/2 her paladin level plus her Charisma modifier. With one use of this ability, a paladin can heal 1d6 hit points of damage for every two paladin levels she possesses. Using this ability is a standard action, unless the paladin targets herself, in which case it is a swift action. Despite the name of this ability, a paladin only needs one free hand to use this ability.

I searched the forum, and did not come across any references to the two abilities used together, save for one post where it was mentioned in passing, and was agreed that it would be a good feat choice for a paladin.

If I'm correct, lay on hands is not magical healing, and this wouldn't let you get 2 extra hp per die of LoH (and with greater Mercy, this could skyrocket.)

If i'm wrong, I'm changing out Cleave to Fey Foundling because I intend on buffing LoH as much as I can without taking Extra Lay oh Hands.

Thanks for any input


Tesserex wrote:
Lay On Hands (Su)

The "(Su)" stands for Supernatural Ability: Supernatural abilities are magical attacks, defenses, and qualities.

Healing from Lay on Hands is magical healing, and would be great with Fey Foundling.

Tesserex wrote:
If i'm wrong, I'm changing out Cleave to Fey Foundling

If you do stick with cleave, remember that not only must both targets be within your reach, they must also be adjacent to each other. If your enemies are flanking you, or have a 5' square between them, you can't cleave them.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Lay On Hands is magical healing.

It's a supernatural ability to heal, thus magical. It also doesn't work in anti-magic fields.

So yes, your Fey feat would give you +2 healing when you used LoH's on yourself.


Grick wrote:


If you do stick with cleave, remember that not only must both targets be within your reach, they must also be adjacent to each other. If your enemies are flanking you, or have a 5' square between them, you can't cleave them.

I just talked to my DM, and he says fey foundling is fine with LoH. So Cleave is out anyway. Cleave is kind of sub par anyway, I like this feat much better


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
Tesserex wrote:
Grick wrote:


If you do stick with cleave, remember that not only must both targets be within your reach, they must also be adjacent to each other. If your enemies are flanking you, or have a 5' square between them, you can't cleave them.
I just talked to my DM, and he says fey foundling is fine with LoH. So Cleave is out anyway. Cleave is kind of sub par anyway, I like this feat much better

Cleave is great a lower levels. It's just sucky at higher levels. Fighters are the only ones who should really take Cleave. They can trade it out at higher levels when it's no longer any use (say after 6th level).

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