Movement and combat


Rules Questions

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Am I correct below?

Players who do not elect to take their entire normal movement cannot then finish their move after attacking.

For instance, the Fighter moves 3 squares and attacks the Orc. Fighter's movement is 6 squares. The cannot cannot then, after attacking the Orc, choose to finish out his movement...


Not without the feat spring attack, no. Such movement also limited the fighter to a standard action for a single attack.

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Is it also correct that Scorching Ray victims do not get a saving throw unless they have Spell Resistance?

Also, I'm a bit confused about item damage and magic.

The item damage section seems to say if a saving throw is failed, then an item has a chance at being damaged. However, what occurs in a situation when no save is allowed, like above? Is the touch being delivered successfully by the spellcaster the same as failing a saving throw?

I remember reading, somewhere, that if an item is on tap to sustain damage, it gets a saving throw...is it the character's saving throw who possesses the item?

Multiple attacks:

When a monster has 3 attacks, for instance 2 claws and a bite, are the 2 claw attacks primary attacks and the bite a secondary attack? I am having trouble figuring this out.

A monk character was fighting a Druid's Raptor. The monk has Flurry of Blows which gave multiple attacks, normally with penalties, but since he was a monk he was able to pretty much negate the penalties. The Raptor, on the other hand, has a stipulation which says all his attacks are primary. The Druid then summoned an eagle to help out, so I couldn't figure out if the all 3 of the Eagle's attacks were all primary or secondary. The Monster Manuel doesn't seem to clarify which attacks a monster has as primary or secondary.

Also, if the druid is on a horse, can the horse get all 3 attacks as primary, or just the 2 hooves as primary and the bite as secondary. Can the horse even make these kinds of attacks if the druid is riding him?

If the Raptor was knocked prone, he still would get his 3 attacks,albeit with -4 penalty to-hit, correct?

To clear up "Favored class," the player who chose druid as his class and doesn't have any plans to take on another class can still choose Druid to be his favored class, correct? Meaning every level up, he gets +1 HP or Skill rank... I have not looked at Advanced Player's Guide yet, but do see an excerpt which allows a Human with Paladin as favored class to gain +1 to his energy resistance. I'm assuming the APG broadens the use of favored class points beyond Skills and HP?

When taking on a Prestige class: If a level 6 Fighter took on a Prestige class, is he then level 6 Fighter, Level 1 Prestige class? One sentence I also am confused about: "Multiclassing/Prestige Classes

The simplest way to progress beyond 20th level is to simply multiclass or take levels in a prestige class, in which case you gain all of the abilities of the new class level normally. This effectively treats 20th level as a hard limit for class level, but not as a hard limit for total character level."

Does this mean a character has a CLASS level limit of 20? For instance, can a multiclassed guy be level 18 monk, level 15 rogue, and go all the way to 20 monk/20 rogue?

Thanks for your time, everyone! We are a group who have been playing 2nd Edition for almost 20 years, and now making the switch to Pathfinder because of its conciseness and community problem solving.


nogoodscallywag wrote:
Is it also correct that Scorching Ray victims do not get a saving throw unless they have Spell Resistance?

You never get a saving throw vs. scorching ray. Spell Resistance is different entirely, and is rolled by the person casting the spell, not the person being hit with it.

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Also, I'm a bit confused about item damage and magic.

Generally, this stuff won't come up in most games, so you don't have to worry too much about it. :)

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Is the touch being delivered successfully by the spellcaster the same as failing a saving throw?

No, it is not. Scorching ray cannot damage carried items; fireball, however, can.

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When a monster has 3 attacks, for instance 2 claws and a bite, are the 2 claw attacks primary attacks and the bite a secondary attack? I am having trouble figuring this out.

It depends on the type of attack. For instance, bites and claws are always primary attacks (unless the specific monster entry tells you otherwise).

Note, though, that in order to make an attack with more than one natural weapon, you need to take the Full Attack action (this goes similarly for characters with swords, etc., who also usually need to take the Full Attack action to attack more than once on their turn).

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The Monster Manuel doesn't seem to clarify which attacks a monster has as primary or secondary.

Check the attack bonuses - most of the time, they'll either all be the same (in which case they're all primary or secondary), a few will be off by 5 (in which case the lower ones are secondary), or by 2 (in which case the lower ones are secondary and the monster has the Multiattack feat). If they are different from that, it'll take a bit of investigation.

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Also, if the druid is on a horse, can the horse get all 3 attacks as primary, or just the 2 hooves as primary and the bite as secondary. Can the horse even make these kinds of attacks if the druid is riding him?

Most horses are not trained for combat, and therefore do not have a bite attack.

The horse can make those attacks if he has him, even if he's being ridden, so long as the horse doesn't move on its turn (i.e., the horse has to take the Full Attack action, too).

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If the Raptor was knocked prone, he still would get his 3 attacks,albeit with -4 penalty to-hit, correct?

Yep!

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To clear up "Favored class," the player who chose druid as his class and doesn't have any plans to take on another class can still choose Druid to be his favored class, correct? Meaning every level up, he gets +1 HP or Skill rank.

Yep - if you're never going to take another class, it would be silly to not pick your current class as your favored class!

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I'm assuming the APG broadens the use of favored class points beyond Skills and HP?

Yes, it does.

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When taking on a Prestige class: If a level 6 Fighter took on a Prestige class, is he then level 6 Fighter, Level 1 Prestige class?

Yep - just as if he'd taken a level in Rogue, he'd be a Fighter 6 / Rogue 1, and in total a 7th-level character.

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Does this mean a character has a CLASS level limit of 20? For instance, can a multiclassed guy be level 18 monk, level 15 rogue, and go all the way to 20 monk/20 rogue?

Yes - but it'll take a long time to get to epic levels (those greater than 20th character level), so you won't have to worry about it for a long, long time.

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