[Faiths of Purity] Apsu doesn't grant spells


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Liberty's Edge

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The entire regiment of Kobold Paladins scream in frustration!* As if it wasn't hard enough to be taken seriously!

What is the ratinale for this decision? Is this a deliberate choice on the All-Dragon's part? Or is something more sinister afoot? Is Apsu not the divine figure it claims to be?

*both of them

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spamhammer wrote:

The entire regiment of Kobold Paladins scream in frustration!* As if it wasn't hard enough to be taken seriously!

What is the ratinale for this decision? Is this a deliberate choice on the All-Dragon's part? Or is something more sinister afoot? Is Apsu not the divine figure it claims to be?

*both of them

Huh? He's listed with Domains on p. 18. How is that not an implication of him granting spells?


His text entry specifically states he doesn't grant spells. Even though he has domains. It's kind of weird, really.

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In all seriousness, is there a story reason for this? Because it seems like a creature this powerful who is worshipped as a god would grant spells.

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Jonathon Vining wrote:
His text entry specifically states he doesn't grant spells. Even though he has domains. It's kind of weird, really.

Sigh. That'd be an error.

Apsu is a god. He grants spells. That's why we gave him domains.

The line that says "...except cleric or paladin, for Apsu does not grant spells..." should be blotted out with a big thick black pen. I recommend a sharpie, since that stuff covers up anything.

ALL of Golarion's deities grant spells, except the dead ones. If you see us list domains for a deity (which we certainly do for Apsu), that means that deity can grant spells. Because it's a deity.


That's a strange error, though. Specifically calling out that a deity doesn't grant spells wouldn't seem like something that was casually slipped in there..

I wonder if this issue will cause you as much headache as the Asmodeus article did :)

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DM Are wrote:

That's a strange error, though. Specifically calling out that a deity doesn't grant spells wouldn't seem like something that was casually slipped in there..

I wonder if this issue will cause you as much headache as the Asmodeus article did :)

It is a strange error, and I really don't know how or why it got in there.

I doubt it'll cause as much of a headache, though, since Apsu is such a less prominent deity in Golarion than Asmodeus.

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You know, I don't think it's very fair that Paladins of Asmodeus can get spells, but paladins of Apsu can't.

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Bored Discordian wrote:
Paladins of Asmodeus...

Lol

That's another thing you should use that sharpie on.

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Name Violation wrote:
Bored Discordian wrote:
Paladins of Asmodeus...

Lol

That's another thing you should use that sharpie on.

What, that post, before James sees it? I agree.

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gbonehead wrote:
Name Violation wrote:
Bored Discordian wrote:
Paladins of Asmodeus...

Lol

That's another thing you should use that sharpie on.
What, that post, before James sees it? I agree.

I believe JJ has mentioned before that LG Pallys of Asmo shouldn't exist.


James Jacobs wrote:
ALL of Golarion's deities grant spells, except the dead ones. If you see us list domains for a deity (which we certainly do for Apsu), that means that deity can grant spells. Because it's a deity.

Can those of us non-deities grant spells just to screw with mortals and/or thumb our noses at the gods?

Not in -my- name mind you. Just someone fun, like the Peacock Spirit (why u list them as dead?! Whaaa!)

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James Jacobs wrote:
DM Are wrote:

That's a strange error, though. Specifically calling out that a deity doesn't grant spells wouldn't seem like something that was casually slipped in there..

I wonder if this issue will cause you as much headache as the Asmodeus article did :)

It is a strange error, and I really don't know how or why it got in there.

I doubt it'll cause as much of a headache, though, since Apsu is such a less prominent deity in Golarion than Asmodeus.

It sounds very much like it might have been an unconcious revisit to an article on Dragon clerics in one of the old "Best of Dragon" books. In that most dragon clerics usually just relied on their innate magic spells as draconic spellcasters instead of casting clerical magic.

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