Oracles


Rules Questions


do oracles need to set a time of day to pray for their spells like clerics? we got a ring of sustenance and trying to figure outbid it's any use to my oracle.

Liberty's Edge

Mojorat wrote:
do oracles need to set a time of day to pray for their spells like clerics? we got a ring of sustenance and trying to figure outbid it's any use to my oracle.

Nope. Oracles don't even need to worship something, the Powers that Be have simply seen fit to grant them power. They may not ven know why.


Mojorat wrote:
do oracles need to set a time of day to pray for their spells like clerics? we got a ring of sustenance and trying to figure outbid it's any use to my oracle.

They are treated like other spontaneous, e.g. sorcerers and bards. So they have a 15 minute preparation time each day, which you can spend in whatever way you see fitting (meditating, singing, ...)

The ring of sustenance is as much of use to an oracle as to any character - the oracle does not need to eat and drink and only needs two hours of sleep in order to fully rest instead of the usual eight. Divine characters actually do not need to sleep to regain their spells, so there is no further benefit to it.


No one needs to sleep -- they simply need eight hours of rest.

This could be spent simply sitting there for example so long as they are resting.


Abraham spalding wrote:

No one needs to sleep -- they simply need eight hours of rest.

This could be spent simply sitting there for example so long as they are resting.

Which is how it is by RAW.

I imagine most GM's would make you hallucinate after about 5 days of "resting".


Abraham spalding wrote:

No one needs to sleep -- they simply need eight hours of rest.

This could be spent simply sitting there for example so long as they are resting.

Wrong (URL): "Rest

To prepare his daily spells, a wizard must first sleep for 8 hours. The wizard does not have to slumber for every minute of the time, but he must refrain from movement, combat, spellcasting, skill use, conversation, or any other fairly demanding physical or mental task during the rest period. If his rest is interrupted, each interruption adds 1 hour to the total amount of time he has to rest in order to clear his mind, and he must have at least 1 hour of uninterrupted rest immediately prior to preparing his spells. If the character does not need to sleep for some reason, he still must have 8 hours of restful calm before preparing any spells."


Sangalor -- the next sentence in your very quote:

Quote:
To prepare his daily spells, a wizard must first sleep for 8 hours. The wizard does not have to slumber for every minute of the time, but he must refrain from movement, combat, spellcasting, skill use, conversation, or any other fairly demanding physical or mental task during the rest period. If his rest is interrupted, each interruption adds 1 hour to the total amount of time he has to rest in order to clear his mind, and he must have at least 1 hour of uninterrupted rest immediately prior to preparing his spells. If the character does not need to sleep for some reason, he still must have 8 hours of restful calm before preparing any spells.


Abraham spalding wrote:
No one needs to sleep -- they simply need eight hours of rest.

This was a general statement that is not correct in its absoluteness, that is why I replied to it :-) Yes, you do not need to have uninterrupted sleep, but you still need to sleep.

Also, there maybe some races that do not need sleep, but they are non-standard races in that case.


Still not seeing how it isn't correct, as the very next sentence in your own quote proves me correct still.

Now if you went to the bestiary and quoted where it stated humanoids sleep, eat, and breath you'd probably get farther.


Abraham spalding wrote:

Still not seeing how it isn't correct, as the very next sentence in your own quote proves me correct still.

Now if you went to the bestiary and quoted where it stated humanoids sleep, eat, and breath you'd probably get farther.

Be my guest:

"Traits: A humanoid possesses the following traits (unless otherwise noted in a creature's entry).

* Proficient with all simple weapons, or by character class.
* Proficient with whatever type of armor (light, medium, or heavy) it is described as wearing, or by character class. If a humanoid does not have a class and wears armor, it is proficient with that type of armor and all lighter types. Humanoids not indicated as wearing armor are not proficient with armor. Humanoids are proficient with shields if they are proficient with any form of armor.
* Humanoids breathe, eat, and sleep."

Besides that I still do not get how you get from a highlighted quote that states that a wizard needs to sleep for 8 hours to regain his spells and thus invalidating the "noone needs to sleep" statement to "you do not need to sleep at all".


TarkXT wrote:
Abraham spalding wrote:

No one needs to sleep -- they simply need eight hours of rest.

This could be spent simply sitting there for example so long as they are resting.

Which is how it is by RAW.

I imagine most GM's would make you hallucinate after about 5 days of "resting".

All humanoids need to sleep, even elves who did not have to in D&D. Bestiary makes that clear.

But the hallucination bit would be quite likely in our games :-P


"To live, a human must breathe. A human does not have to breathe for every second of the time."

Wizards don't have to sleep at all and, using the same logic, humans don't have to breathe at all.

Obviously by RAI, wizards must sleep. They just don't have to sleep for every minute of the time.

But let's take it one step further...

By strict RAW, if a wizard does not sleep, they can never gain spells back since they must breathe and they move when breathing, which means it takes +1 hour per breath to finish resting, and since humans can't hold their breath for an hour...

Oh yeah, that's right, humans don't have to breathe!

Cheers! :-)

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / Oracles All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.
Recent threads in Rules Questions