grapple combined woth other combat maneuvers


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I had a thought today, though I am pretty sure you cannot do this by raw. if you have someone grappled when you succeed on your maintain can you substitute a combat maneuver that would normally be I'n place of an attack?

eg mo k maintains instead of crushing his opponent he footsweeps him. it's thematically propriate but may be why one would need greater grapple.


Since there's quite a clear list on page 200 of the core rules stating what you can do while grappling (and Combat maneuvres are not amongst the list items) and even the "Greater Grapple" feat only gives additional chances to use those options (namely "move, harm or pin") I'd rule out that possibility.


Mojorat wrote:

I had a thought today, though I am pretty sure you cannot do this by raw. if you have someone grappled when you succeed on your maintain can you substitute a combat maneuver that would normally be I'n place of an attack?

eg mo k maintains instead of crushing his opponent he footsweeps him. it's thematically propriate but may be why one would need greater grapple.

I allow it. The monk just has to win a couple of checks to tie someone up anyway (which is stupid) so letting him trip them instead is hardly a big deal.


Mojorat wrote:

I had a thought today, though I am pretty sure you cannot do this by raw. if you have someone grappled when you succeed on your maintain can you substitute a combat maneuver that would normally be I'n place of an attack?

eg mo k maintains instead of crushing his opponent he footsweeps him. it's thematically propriate but may be why one would need greater grapple.

Not by the rules. I don't think it is fair for anyone to do two CMB's for the price of one so I would go by the book.

Scarab Sages

Mojorat wrote:
eg monk maintains instead of crushing his opponent he footsweeps him. it's thematically propriate but may be why one would need greater grapple.

Isn't that covered, by the 'pin' option?


Good idea, nice way to fluff out a pinning maneuvre.

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