[Super Genius Games] Vote *and* Win (PaizoCon Pre-Gens Contest)


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Gavrin Strongstone

I love that this dwarven tank is so versatile; rather than just settling into a head-bashing meatshield role, Gavrin can orchestrate the party's frontline tactics, demoralize his foes, and even finesse the enemy's surrender (should any enemies decide not to, you know, commit suicide by PCs).

Even with just a scant few paragraphs of backstory, I really felt I understood Gavrin's motivations for wandering abroad in general, and for taking up with an adventuring/questing party in particular. Some of the other characters presented here had a great story behind them, but didn't really have obvious reasons for Going Forth.

So give my vote to the tactics-savvy War Master Gavrin!

Liberty's Edge

I will also have to give my vote to Liada.


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:


** spoiler omitted **...

Rus the Ash Speaker

Dark Archive

I am torn between voting for Elo or Liada, but I think Elo ultimately gets my vote.


It's tough choosing only one, but I have to pick:

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Elo Shon by Set

Good luck to all the contestants.

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Laek Ayoti

Only thing I mightt not like is the cold focus, but that's more of a personal preferance (I prefer a fire focus).

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Liada the Corpse Yard Whore

Iconic necrophile FTW.

I forgot to look: does she have a shovel in her inventory? Please oh please oh please? :P


N'wah wrote:

Liada the Corpse Yard Whore

Iconic necrophile FTW.

I forgot to look: does she have a shovel in her inventory? Please oh please oh please? :P

Only if you draw her to be that way. </hint drops>

Liberty's Edge

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

It's tough choosing only one, but I have to pick:

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Elo Shon by Set

Good luck to all the contestants.

Woo hoo - two more votes for Elo Shon, Vanguard bad a@@ :) !!

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Urizen wrote:
N'wah wrote:

Liada the Corpse Yard Whore

Iconic necrophile FTW.

I forgot to look: does she have a shovel in her inventory? Please oh please oh please? :P

Only if you draw her to be that way. </hint drops>

If they ask me to, I will gladly do so. :D


Laek Ayoti

Awesome instantaneous character image. A classic elven wizard with a humorous twist. Laek gets my vote!

Moox


Liada

CreepyKool !

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Moox wrote:

Laek Ayoti

Awesome instantaneous character image. A classic elven wizard with a humorous twist. Laek gets my vote!

Moox

Moox is an individual of rare taste and discernment.

The world needs more Moox!


Set wrote:
Moox wrote:

Laek Ayoti

Awesome instantaneous character image. A classic elven wizard with a humorous twist. Laek gets my vote!

Moox

Moox is an individual of rare taste and discernment.

The world needs more Moox!

So true, so true.

Moox

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32

I am a fan of Laek Ayoti. Truth be told, they're all good, but I like me the icy types!


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Quote:
I forgot to look: does she have a shovel in her inventory? Please oh please oh please? :P

When creating her inventory I had to choose between shovel or spade, Liada carries a spade as part of her inventory. :)


Just thought I'd pop back in here to thank everyone for voting, and to encourage people who haven't voted yet to vote for the War Master critically reviewed as both "butt-kicking" and "tactics-savvy," Gavrin Strongstone.

After all, who knows how many times the DR 2/adamantine will come in handy while playing him at Paizocon? (Okay, the Super Geniuses probably know.)

Dark Archive

So I've finally gotten around to reading through all of them, with an eye towards compelling backstory and effective mechanics, and I'm gonna throw my quixotic vote for Rus Ironhoof, Ash Speaker.


Set wrote:

So I've finally gotten around to reading through all of them, with an eye towards compelling backstory and effective mechanics, and I'm gonna throw my quixotic vote for Rus Ironhoof, Ash Speaker.

Thank you! Considering you contributed about a third of the contest, I really appreciate your vote.

That said, my own vote is gonna have to go to Talia en'Vesh. The class combination was too interesting to pass up. Elo Shon was a close second, and I liked Tarion Strongheart, but the formatting was a bit tough to read.

In retrospect, if I could go back and do it again, I'd have Rus's obligation to his tribe mitigated or eliminated somehow (probably a necromancer killing them off, and him seeking vengeance, just to extend the theme of his homeland). I think I'm too used to GMing and forgot that a PC needs to, y'know, WANDER. He comes off a bit too much as an NPC, even though I do quite like what I made.

Scarab Sages

The voting is hot and heavy, and I love the commentary from creators and voters alike!

We're on the last full day of voting, so remember to get your opinion in. The winner, and one lucky voter, are going to get free dungeon rooms and PDFs for a year!

Dark Archive

<Set furiously stuffs ballot box. But for whom?>


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Liada the Corpse Yard Whore

To be honest, her background story did it!


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

As a contestant, I can really see how not adding a back-story to my character seems to have hurt my chances, which is surprising.

I was operating under the idea that, since these are characters for other people (whomever plays in the PaizoCon game) it was better to leave the back-story blank so that either the Super Genius guys, or whatever players take up the game, could fill in the back-story as needed to suit the adventure.

Talk about a miscalculation. D'oh!


Laek Ayoti

This character has an interesting and logical background story with a lot of useful information.


I can see myself playing Laek Ayoti. Looks like fun.

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Alzrius wrote:
As a contestant, I can really see how not adding a back-story to my character seems to have hurt my chances, which is surprising.

Spoiler:
The Blacksnake-whip-Inquisitor (Lucius) and your air-monk were my top two *thematic* choices (well, I'm also fond of my ice mage...), that I found viscerally compelling and evocative and all that noise, but I found the mechanics *of the archetypes* (*not* your use of them, the archetypes themselves) to be lacking.

I don't think of this contest as a frustrated fiction-writer's contest (and tried to keep my backstory elements limited to why the person was class / archetype X and why they would be adventuring), so much as a 'design a character that I can hand to some slob who just sat down at the table that he'll be able to have fun playing' contest, so I didn't even read the backstories, for the most part, since that's not the curve I was grading on. {There is another thread with a fiction contest, so that's cool, too, in it's place.)

Just based on concepts that appealed to me, I would have been hard-pressed between the air-monk and the whip-inquisitor, but the mechanics of those two archetypes just didn't seem like they would translate well to 'convention fun,' and I abandoned my own air-monk Air Blast-disarm-trip specialist when it proved unworkable (to my satisfaction, anyway) and went with the Air Sorceress instead.

I suspect that both your air-monk and the blacksnake could be very fun and effective in the hands of someone who really, really 'got' them. But random-dude-at-con is *highly* unlikely to have the opportunity to 'get' them. They seem like the sorts of characters that would take a few sessions, over a week or two, to 'find the sweet spot,' to me, and, even then, I'd personally want to gut the air-monk-archetype and rebuild it from the ground up before I'd use it, 'cause I'm all unreasonable and impossible to please, like that. :)

Anywho, that's my opinion. You have a great idea, which I think I even commented on in the original thread, but I don't think the archetypes mechanics did you any favors.

Scarab Sages

Pens down!

The contest is over. I'll tally the votes, and drop the voters name in a hat, and release the names of the winners by this time tomorrow. Thanks to everyone for participating!


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Set wrote:
Alzrius wrote:
As a contestant, I can really see how not adding a back-story to my character seems to have hurt my chances, which is surprising.
** spoiler omitted **...

I think you are right, that the blacksnake was probably not right as a convention character. In hindsight it isnt a sit down and play kind of character. It was just one of the more interesting SGG ideas I had bouncing around in my head. Oh well I am not overly concerned as I wouldnt have wanted to put owen through the hassle of trying to figure out how to give me the grand prize when I already had it (already have the all genius pass subscription). I was just doing this for fun :).


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Kolokotroni wrote:
Set wrote:
Alzrius wrote:
As a contestant, I can really see how not adding a back-story to my character seems to have hurt my chances, which is surprising.
** spoiler omitted **...
I think you are right, that the blacksnake was probably not right as a convention character. In hindsight it isnt a sit down and play kind of character. It was just one of the more interesting SGG ideas I had bouncing around in my head. Oh well I am not overly concerned as I wouldnt have wanted to put owen through the hassle of trying to figure out how to give me the grand prize when I already had it (already have the all genius pass subscription). I was just doing this for fun :).

If it makes you feel any better, that was the character I would have probably picked to play if I were picking one to play in a game. I've always liked the mental image of a whip using character (probably residual Indiana Jones hero worship left over from being a kid and watching Raider's of the Lost Ark).


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mdt wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, that was the character I would have probably picked to play if I were picking one to play in a game. I've always liked the mental image of a whip using character (probably residual Indiana Jones hero worship left over from being a kid and watching Raider's of the Lost Ark).

It does actually. I have been pining to play an effective whip character for years now (since the dawn of 3.0 more or less). And I did once, for a one off 3.5 campaign where I used the 3.0 prestige class whipmaster. Wasn't enough though. Definately want more. I'll be looking for an opportunity to use the blacksnake archetype in a game in the future as I love the fact that it can be used with any class AND it shows up from level 1 (unlike the prestige class).


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Set wrote:
Alzrius wrote:
As a contestant, I can really see how not adding a back-story to my character seems to have hurt my chances, which is surprising.
** spoiler omitted **...

Thanks for saying so, Set, and I think you make a good point. As soon as I read the contest, I immediately started looking for ways in which I could combine as many SGG products as possible into one character. I stopped before I got too out of control, but still ended up using five, which is a lot of alternate rules for someone sitting down for a convention game to look up.


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:

Pens down!

The contest is over. I'll tally the votes, and drop the voters name in a hat, and release the names of the winners by this time tomorrow. Thanks to everyone for participating!

Did the results get posted in their own thread somewhere...?

<.<
>.>

:)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"


What are you talking about?? It's not tomorrow yet - it's still today.

:D

Scarab Sages

Sorry folks, another project blew up and suddenly I'm in the Writer's Cave. I'll take care of this ASAP, no later than Monday.

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Doc_Outlands wrote:
What are you talking about?? It's not tomorrow yet - it's still today. :D

.

"But when will it be now?"
"Soon!"


Yes, my kids hate me. :D

"We'll do it later."
...
"Is it later yet?"
"No, it's still now."
...
"Is it later yet?"
"No."
"When will it be later??"
"Later."
...

Since we don't take long trips by vehicle, this is our version of "Are we there yet?"

Scarab Sages

It's Monday, and that means it's time to see who are big winners are!

The clear favorite character, with 12 votes, is Liada the Corpse Yard Whore! (Apparently sex sells, and necromantic sex wins contests!) That means Brinebeast wins a year's All-Genius Pass subscription to Dungeonaday.com, which includes every PDF Super Genius Games produces.

Now, we need to see what voter also wins a free year-long All-Genius Pass. We have 37 votes, as follows:

1. Alzrius
2. Ambrosia Slaad
3. Blackerose
4. bstern
5. Chris Ballard
6. dafaddu
7. Dark Sasha
8. davei
9. David Fryer
10. Deidre Tiriel
11. Doc_Outlands
12. Fflewddur Fflam
13. graywolfe
14. Here4daFreeSwag
15. James Martin
16. knightnday
17. Kolokotroni
18. Krays
19. Marc Radle
20. Max Barton
21. mdt
22. Moox
23. Morgen
24. N'wah
25. Sgmendez
26. ShadowcatX
27. Shisumo
28. Steven Conforti
29. Realmwalker
30. Telixen
31. The Dalesman
32. TheLorax
33. Tim4488
34. Tobias
35. Tod Gagliano
36. Urizen
37. Wiptag

So I roll my handy d37, and...

1d37 ⇒ 15

Congratulations, James Martin !

Now all Brinebeast and James Martin need to do is contact me at 023n@supergeniusgames.com, and we'll ge them all hooked up!

And thanks to everyone for helping us make 2011 the Year of the Genius. We'll have more contests and opportunities as the year goes on!

Dark Archive

Congrats to the winners!

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32

Holy snikey! That's frickin' awesome! Thanks, Owen! I knew digging your work would profit me some day! ;)

Dark Archive

Also, congrats to the losers, 'cause we rock, and totally outnumber the winners! Go Team Loser! :)


Congrats to all the entrants and to the two winners!

Liberty's Edge

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:


So I roll my handy d37, and...

1d37⇒ 15

Congratulations, James Martin !

Now all Brinebeast and James Martin need to do is contact me at 023n@supergeniusgames.com, and we'll ge them all hooked up!

And thanks to everyone for helping us make 2011 the Year of the Genius. We'll have more contests and opportunities as the year goes on!

hahaha gotta love that method of randomness. No one can claim it wasn't random.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

So what should those of us who just submitted do to get our PDFs?


Congrats to the Winners and Everyone involved for this. ;)

bstern wrote:
Here4daFreeSwag wrote:

Gavrin Strongstone

1d11+0

Yeah, using a really, erm, kinda-scientific-likeish-but-not-really method to vote. ;)

Hurray for the random number generator, and thank you for your vote!

No prob at all. ;)


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Wow, thank you everyone for voting for Liada. There were a lot of great entries and character builds. I hope everyone who plays Liada as a pre-gen character will have a lot of fun with her.

Mr. Stephens, I have sent you an email.

Thanks again everyone!
Brine

Scarab Sages

Shisumo wrote:
So what should those of us who just submitted do to get our PDFs?

Send an email to me owen@supergeniusgames.com, and let me know which one you want.

For example, our newest Loot 4 Less book goes live today, I believe...

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Brinebeast wrote:

Wow, thank you everyone for voting for Liada. There were a lot of great entries and character builds. I hope everyone who plays Liada as a pre-gen character will have a lot of fun with her.

....

Thanks again everyone!
Brine

Congratulations on your well-deserved win!


Grats to all the winners.


Realmwalker wrote:
Grats to all the winners.

Indeed, congratulations all around. I hope that everyone enjoys using these characters at PaizoCon!

Perhaps we'll get a report from the con of how things went with them.


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So any fun stories about Liada or any of the other pre-gens from Paizocon?

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