Using only Pathfinder stuff, I am trying to optimize my Bard for diplomancing around situations. I don't want to straight up try to get out of encounters with it, just get more money, get my way, and generally trick people. Right now I am level 3. I have 20 cha (gnome), 17 Bluff, 12 diplomacy, and 14 disguise. Is there any way I can possibly get these numbers higher? 3 ranks in each, 5 cha bonus, 3 trained bonus, deceitful, Skill Focus (Bluff) and the Street Performer alternate starting package is what I've used so far. I only have 1,800 GP and any help would be appreciated.
Using only Pathfinder stuff, I am trying to optimize my Bard for diplomancing around situations. I don't want to straight up try to get out of encounters with it, just get more money, get my way, and generally trick people. Right now I am level 3. I have 20 cha (gnome), 17 Bluff, 12 diplomacy, and 14 disguise. Is there any way I can possibly get these numbers higher? 3 ranks in each, 5 cha bonus, 3 trained bonus, deceitful, Skill Focus (Bluff) and the Street Performer alternate starting package is what I've used so far. I only have 1,800 GP and any help would be appreciated.
Do you use traits? You could get another +1 there.
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Level 3 Bard
Skill Rank 3
Class skill 3
Cha Mod. 5
Skill Focus Preform Oratary 3
Total 14
Versatal preformance oratary (Diplomacy,Sense Motive) 14
Versatal preformance Act (Bluff,Disquise) At level 6
Just need to look at geting more with less. Versatal Preformance is one thing that realy makes bards. They can use more skills with fewer points spent.
Level 3 Bard
Skill Rank 3
Class skill 3
Cha Mod. 5
Skill Focus Preform Oratary 3
Total 14
Versatal preformance oratary (Diplomacy,Sense Motive) 14
Versatal preformance Act (Bluff,Disquise) At level 6Just need to look at geting more with less. Versatal Preformance is one thing that realy makes bards. They can use more skills with fewer points spent.
I looked at that, but I don't think I'd be able to get the skills individually as high, since I'm still missing +2 from deceitful and whatever the similar feat is for Intimidate/Diplomacy. I'm not short on skill points, so I'm not overly worried about getting things for less (I get 10 skill points a level.)
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masterwork tool +2 (i like a nice hat, or a bow tie) aid another +2 (hire some guy with +9 bonus to follow you around and be your yes man) just off the top of my head.
I agree with calagnar.
Maximizing perform and utilizing versatile performance is your best option. Instead of worrying about maximizing several skills, you can really focus on one. The icing on the cake is that a high perform check also gets you money and a reputation.