Leaping Attack Clarifications


Gunslinger Discussion: Round 2

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After searching the forums here for answers, I've come up dry.

So, another thread about Leaping Shot...

1.) Are you "leaping" when you use it? How has anyone's play testing experience been improved and/or diminished ruling this or against this?

2.) You can make 1 attack with each firearm you are wielding. Does that mean wielding when you activate the ability, or during the action? i.e. technically if you fire, drop and quick-draw another weapon during the movement, aren't you now wielding a new weapon during the full-round action?

3.) Assuming question 1 and 2 are answered "no, you just move, fire once or twice and go prone", what *is* the advantage of this over Shot on the Run? I see the minor prerequisite advantage, but losing a grit and going prone don't look like a very good use of a commodity as precious as a feat.

4.) It says you can make "fire arm attacks with each loaded firearm". Not "a single firearm attack with each loaded firearm". Does that let you unload a firearm with a capacity over 1 during a leap?

Dark Archive

I've had similar concerns about this feat...

I mean, the feat obviously implies that you're leaping through the air, but there's no acrobatics check involved. Does this mean you can use it to clear jumps? Is it a thirty foot long jump with no check required? It seems like you could get more use out of it just by jumping gaps or obstacles or hazardous terrain.


1) leaping, like tumbling and climbing are part of a move action. There is nothing built into the feat that says you must leap. Much the same way you can leap with shot on the run (I would assume).
2) While I admit the word "attackS" makes it slightly less clear, the words "at your highest base attack bonus" seem straight forward that the default is a single attack. The next line, is a special condition, specifying two fire arms, would seem to indicate a max of two attacks (while not spelled out, that is a pretty decent interpretation).
3) the advantage seems to be the bonus to acrobatics (which is not tied into the full round action) and the ability to fire twice.
4)Again, the words, "at your highest base attack bonus" indicate a single attack per gun.

Grand Lodge

Yes but as stated above it the per gun aspect, per guns in hand or per guns loaded that can be drawn is the true question here that i am having trouble with

Dark Archive

Animefunkmaster wrote:
1) leaping, like tumbling and climbing are part of a move action. There is nothing built into the feat that says you must leap. Much the same way you can leap with shot on the run (I would assume).

Could be, but it does say "you leap through the air." That's pretty explicit, IMO. Shot on the Run does not say anything about leaping. It's just on the run (i.e., on foot, although if you wished you could say it involves leaps and tumbles for flavor's sake). Leaping Shot is pretty clear about the jumping part... hence the name, the flavor text, and the +2 to Acrobatics checks.

I think we can all at least agree that this feat isn't worded very well. It's obviously causing a lot of confusion.

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