FEAT: Dex based damage


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master_marshmallow wrote:
Charon's Little Helper wrote:
SwiftStriker wrote:


Luckily I am the GM for this game and I am allowing our rogue to take this because without this he does 1d3-1 damage with daggers outside of his sneak attacks.
Or - instead of house-ruling - just let him be an unchained rogue. They DO get dex-to-damage with any weapon they want.
Not any weapon, but yeah. They get to pick.

Right - I explained that badly. Any single weapon which you can use Weapon Finesse with. (Not that you'd want it on something you can't use Weapon Finesse with anyway.)


Update: Slashing Grace errata now allows for light weapons, but “You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or any time another hand is otherwise occupied.”


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basically the only reason you'd choose a light weapon...


Unless maybe, just maybe, you had a character concept that used one?


Matthew Downie wrote:
Update: Slashing Grace errata now allows for light weapons, but “You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or any time another hand is otherwise occupied.”

Source?

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Bandw2 wrote:
basically the only reason you'd choose a light weapon...

It makes it easier to use with Weapon Finesse for someone who isn't a Swasbuckler/Daring Champ. Before they were stuck with an Aldori Dueling Blade. (though they could always just use Fencing Grace instead)

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master_marshmallow wrote:
Matthew Downie wrote:
Update: Slashing Grace errata now allows for light weapons, but “You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or any time another hand is otherwise occupied.”
Source?

it's in the errata which came out this week.

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Bandw2 wrote:
basically the only reason you'd choose a light weapon...

Dex based Warpriest?


Just use Deadly Agility from Path of War from Dreamscarred Press. Use Dex in place of Strength with any light or finessable weapon.

Done.


Diffan wrote:

Just use Deadly Agility from Path of War from Dreamscarred Press. Use Dex in place of Strength with any light or finessable weapon.

Done.

I wish more DM's did use it.


Matthew Downie wrote:
SwiftStriker wrote:
oldsaxhleel wrote:
Slashing grace in the ACG, problem is it requires a 1 handed slashing weapon, so your choices are pretty limited. off hand, I can only think of 2 weapons that even qualify if you're wanting a weapon that actually qualifies for weapon finesse(why wouldnt you?), those being the dagger and the shortsword. rapier doesnt count because of piercing damage, and neither the longsword nor the scimitar can be used with weapon finesse. decent feat for TWF rogues, but that's about it.

I am actually using this for a TWF halfling rogue using daggers.

Also if you wanted to use dex based damage for a scimitar then you would just take Dervish Dance.
As previously indicated, daggers (and shortswords) are Light Weapons rather than One-Handed Weapons, so if you want to use Slashing Grace you have to hope for a GM who is willing to overlook that requirement.

right, there is a weapon which can use slashing grace and weapon finesse without houserule, you need whip mastery (and usually exotic weapon proficiency:whip) on top of weapon finesse, weapon focus:whip and slashing grace.

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cnetarian wrote:
right, there is a weapon which can use slashing grace and weapon finesse without houserule, you need whip mastery (and usually exotic weapon proficiency:whip) on top of weapon finesse, weapon focus:whip and slashing grace.

Actually - now Slashing Grace works with all light weapons.


If Slashing Grace works with all light weapons, then Swashbuckler's Finesse works with all light weapons as well.

Slashing Grace wrote:
Benefit: Choose one kind of light or one-handed slashing weapon (such as the longsword)...
Swashbuckler wrote:
Swashbuckler Finesse (Ex): At 1st level, a swashbuckler gains the benefits of the Weapon Finesse feat with light or one-handed piercing melee weapons...

That's the same sentence structure. No one's ever suggested that Swashbucklers get to Finesse light maces. And if they decide to FAQ Slashing Grace to work with all light weapons, they'll have to accept that the same reasoning applies to Swashbucklers.


Charon's Little Helper wrote:
cnetarian wrote:
right, there is a weapon which can use slashing grace and weapon finesse without houserule, you need whip mastery (and usually exotic weapon proficiency:whip) on top of weapon finesse, weapon focus:whip and slashing grace.
Actually - now Slashing Grace works with all light weapons.

Is that FAQ official yet, or is still pending?


Charon's Little Helper wrote:
cnetarian wrote:
right, there is a weapon which can use slashing grace and weapon finesse without houserule, you need whip mastery (and usually exotic weapon proficiency:whip) on top of weapon finesse, weapon focus:whip and slashing grace.
Actually - now Slashing Grace works with all light weapons.

It seems it doesn't work with shorswords.


graystone wrote:
Diffan wrote:

Just use Deadly Agility from Path of War from Dreamscarred Press. Use Dex in place of Strength with any light or finessable weapon.

Done.

I wish more DM's did use it.

I'm not sure why they don't? I've used that, and its predecessor the Time of Battle, extensively and I've yet to encounter any sort of broken shenanigans that I often see with simple spellcasters. Its a fun supplement and a reason why I still occasionally play Pathfinder


master_marshmallow wrote:
Matthew Downie wrote:
Update: Slashing Grace errata now allows for light weapons, but “You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or any time another hand is otherwise occupied.”
Source?

Downloadable PDF here.


Do you mind homebrew, my group uses this feat:

Dervish.
Your attacks are precise enough to nick even the best protected arteries.
Prerequisites: Weapon finesse or One hander. Weapon focus . Base attack bonus +3.
When you fight with a weapon for which you possess weapon focus and that can benefit from the Weapon finesse feat you may use your dexterity modifier in place of your strength modifier for weapon damage rolls.


tsuruki wrote:

Do you mind homebrew, my group uses this feat:

Dervish.
Your attacks are precise enough to nick even the best protected arteries.
Prerequisites: Weapon finesse or One hander. Weapon focus . Base attack bonus +3.
When you fight with a weapon for which you possess weapon focus and that can benefit from the Weapon finesse feat you may use your dexterity modifier in place of your strength modifier for weapon damage rolls.

I'm not entirely sure you need something home-brewed?

There's

Slashing Grace

or

Deadly Agility

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