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Badass yes, but utterly stupid and nonsensical. Everyone else had already removed their eye patches yet were still running away but he isn't removing his because he will forget what he is supposed to be fighting? Whatever comes through the damn door like a tempest.No offense Cartigan, but remember the bit with Winston and the Doctor. Even in the middle of a fight, they suddenly have no idea what the heck they're doing.Like how everyone else is running away after taking off their eye patches?
There is clearly an invading force trying to physically break down the door. You don't need a computer eye patch to figure out to shoot whatever comes through it.You can't remember the Silents when you look away or what you were doing at the time of looking at them. What you are saying is they can't remember ANYTHING about ANYTHING. There is CLEARLY a force trying to break down the door. His men clearly died after clearly shooting at things and oh yeah, there are dead people around them. They wipe out any memories created when looking at them, not any memories created relating to them ever - the Doctor still realized what he and Churchill were fighting.Taking off the eyepatch would result in:
"Ok, why am I holding my gun?" *sounds of banging against door* "My men are out there, but why? Am I guarding? Well no marks on my arm so no Silents about. Why did I take my patch off, hold on let me put it back on."
*Door gives way, Rory loses precious seconds trying to get his patch on/in shock/fumbling with his revolver, dies horribly.*
Only because of the marks on his arm. Everything else he forgot. They made sure you could tell that.
Only because of the marks on his arm. Everything else he forgot. They made sure you could tell that.Badass yes, but utterly stupid and nonsensical. Everyone else had already removed their eye patches yet were still running away but he isn't removing his because he will forget what he is supposed to be fighting? Whatever comes through the damn door like a tempest.No offense Cartigan, but remember the bit with Winston and the Doctor. Even in the middle of a fight, they suddenly have no idea what the heck they're doing.Like how everyone else is running away after taking off their eye patches?
There is clearly an invading force trying to physically break down the door. You don't need a computer eye patch to figure out to shoot whatever comes through it.You can't remember the Silents when you look away or what you were doing at the time of looking at them. What you are saying is they can't remember ANYTHING about ANYTHING. There is CLEARLY a force trying to break down the door. His men clearly died after clearly shooting at things and oh yeah, there are dead people around them. They wipe out any memories created when looking at them, not any memories created relating to them ever - the Doctor still realized what he and Churchill were fighting.Taking off the eyepatch would result in:
"Ok, why am I holding my gun?" *sounds of banging against door* "My men are out there, but why? Am I guarding? Well no marks on my arm so no Silents about. Why did I take my patch off, hold on let me put it back on."
*Door gives way, Rory loses precious seconds trying to get his patch on/in shock/fumbling with his revolver, dies horribly.*
Yes but that's what I said; he realized the marks on his arms were associated with the Silents. With Morris' interpretation, he wouldn't even have been able to remember that.
A good question is: How much of that 200 years was spent in the timeless alternate universe? The Doctor would probably count it as time spent, whether time was actually passing or not. Timey wimey and all that.
And I missed that 200 years went pass... Was that mentioned at all? I know it was in the first episode.
Or falls under "Rule #1"
A good question is: How much of that 200 years was spent in the timeless alternate universe? The Doctor would probably count it as time spent, whether time was actually passing or not. Timey wimey and all that.
And I missed that 200 years went pass... Was that mentioned at all? I know it was in the first episode.Or falls under "Rule #1"
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I am hoping that in Series 7 we can see Mickey and Martha Smith again, even if it is just in a one shot.I'm surprised they weren't involved in the finale. It looks like the 11th is ONLY dealing with Rory, Amy, and River.
Thank god. Ten dragging everyone he's ever met to the last couple of finales got pretty damn tedious. Especially "The End of Time 2", where half the episode was spent with him "dying", but not so quickly that he can't jaunt all over time and space to have a pity party with every single sentient entity he encountered while wearing Tennant's face.
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If I remember correctly while on the Tardis one is technically outside of tiem and therefore time spent inside of the Tardis doesn't count. So 200 years is only 200 year not in the Tardis.Are you referring to the Zero Room? That went in Castrovalva.
I was not actually. by the way from what I understand it was reconstructed with the 6th Dr. and there was a cut scene with Rory in the zero room from "the doctor's wife."
Thank god. Ten dragging everyone he's ever met to the last couple of finales got pretty damn tedious. Especially "The End of Time 2", where half the episode was spent with him "dying", but not so quickly that he can't jaunt all over time and space to have a pity party with every single sentient entity he encountered while wearing Tennant's face.I am hoping that in Series 7 we can see Mickey and Martha Smith again, even if it is just in a one shot.I'm surprised they weren't involved in the finale. It looks like the 11th is ONLY dealing with Rory, Amy, and River.
Which was wholly different from Stolen Earth/Journey's End where almost everyone still alive related to Doctor Who was involved and it still made sense.
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I think the TARDIS synchs with whatever it's connected to. In this case it's synching with True Amelia, and whoever the TARDIS phones to.The 6th Doctor reconstruction appears to have been a Big Finish Audio production. Not sure how canon those are, (and if there was a scene cut from The Doctor's Wife maybe that was why?)
Ganger Amy still having a connection with what real Amy under Madam Kovarian's control was experiencing would seem to me to indicate that time spent inside the Tardis does still in some way synch (even making allowance for time travel) with the flow of time in the rest of the universe.
I'm not even sure she needs to synch. I mean she basically sees Time all at once. Much like the last episode. So if she's the 'hub' to incoming transmissions, then she's going to be going, "Hmm, remote amy transmission from 5137 CE, check. Rose Tyler Phone call from 2001, check. I'll just make sure these get to the right times inside me."
It was only when she wasn't 'home' (The Doctor's Wife) that she got confused.
And yes, after that episode, the Tardis will always be a She to me.
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I think the TARDIS synchs with whatever it's connected to. In this case it's synching with True Amelia, and whoever the TARDIS phones to.The 6th Doctor reconstruction appears to have been a Big Finish Audio production. Not sure how canon those are, (and if there was a scene cut from The Doctor's Wife maybe that was why?)
Ganger Amy still having a connection with what real Amy under Madam Kovarian's control was experiencing would seem to me to indicate that time spent inside the Tardis does still in some way synch (even making allowance for time travel) with the flow of time in the rest of the universe.
I'm not even sure she needs to synch. I mean she basically sees Time all at once. Much like the last episode. So if she's the 'hub' to incoming transmissions, then she's going to be going, "Hmm, remote amy transmission from 5137 CE, check. Rose Tyler Phone call from 2001, check. I'll just make sure these get to the right times inside me."
It was only when she wasn't 'home' (The Doctor's Wife) that she got confused.
And yes, after that episode, the Tardis will always be a She to me.
Was it the forth Doctor who started calling her the "old girl"?
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I had a thought the other day about regeneration.
In "A Good Man Goes To War" the doctor theorized River Song had Time Lord abilities because she was conceived while the TARDIS was traveling through the time vortex. In "The End of Time" it was revealed Time Lord children are exposed to the time vortex.
So I was wondering if it is the exposure to time vortex energy at a young age that gives Time Lords their ability to regenerate? Could any person, if they were young enough, absorb enough time vortex energy to be able to regenerate? Could that be why in "The Eleventh Hour", the TARDIS jumped ahead 12 years instead of taking young Amelia Pond. Could the TARDIS know that exposure to the vortex would have given her the ability to regenerate?
Also, what about all the children and those not yet born who traveled through the time vortex in "Journey's End"? Are these children going to regenerate, or was the exposure too short? Or could the events of "The Big Bang" have reset the Earth so the exposure never occured?
In "The End of Time", the children stand in front of a portal to the vortex. Could that concentrate the energy? Does the older a child is require a larger concentration of energy in order to absorb enough to regenerate?
Also, if my theory is correct, does this also give someone the other powers of a Time Lord, like telepethy, the ability to store great amounts of knowledge, the ability to sense time and know what can be changed and what is a fixed point?
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But the answer to at least some of them is no. The Time Lords evolved their abilities over millions of years, without the help of being born in TARDISes. Also apparantly Time Lords after the founding of the modern society by Rassilon, Omega, and The Other, aren't born in the conventional way, they're made through an artifact called the Loom. (the same artifact on which the Other killed himself with, possibly to be reincarnated as The Doctor). Further speculation is that one reason why The Doctor left with Susan is because the latter was considered a throwback abomination having been born in a natural manner.
I'd just like to point out that this entire paragraph is based on a non-canon novel, not the TV show. Actual canon sources have never even vaguely hinted at the Loom, etc.
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But the answer to at least some of them is no. The Time Lords evolved their abilities over millions of years, without the help of being born in TARDISes. Also apparantly Time Lords after the founding of the modern society by Rassilon, Omega, and The Other, aren't born in the conventional way, they're made through an artifact called the Loom. (the same artifact on which the Other killed himself with, possibly to be reincarnated as The Doctor). Further speculation is that one reason why The Doctor left with Susan is because the latter was considered a throwback abomination having been born in a natural manner.I'd just like to point out that this entire paragraph is based on a non-canon novel, not the TV show. Actual canon sources have never even vaguely hinted at the Loom, etc.
Also, some books contradicted each other, even books written less than a year apart. Virgin let the authors write whatever they wanted as long as it included some part of the long term story arc.
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Incidentally, new episodes of the original series have been found recently.
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Oh here's a fun fact. If Elisabeth Sladen's biography is correct, the original script for Destiny of the Daleks would have had the Doctor wiping the pepper pot menace from the galaxy. Tom Baker argued that the Doctor wouldn't wipe out an entire race.
I think you mean Genesis of the Daleks.
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Incidentally, new episodes of the original series have been found recently.
Outstanding news... even though "The Underwater Menace" would be pretty close to the bottom of my personal lost episode recovery wishlist. I'm more excited about "Galaxy 4", partly because (as far as I know) until now, there's only been a single photo as visual reference for the Rills. (I think they spend most, if not all, of the recovered episode largely obscured in fog, but at least it's something...)
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And this is just ridiculous. We may be able to recover a great many old episodes, as they are bounced back to Earth from something 25 light years away.
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And this is just ridiculous. We may be able to recover a great many old episodes, as they are bounced back to Earth from something 25 light years away.
Wow. In seven years we can see all the missing Hartnell and Troughton episodes.
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My problem wouldn't be that there's a female Doctor, it would be that it's essentially burning a regeneration on a stunt casting that likely wouldn't even last a full series. While I expect the show to proceed past the 13th Doctor, I would like the show to address the Doctor having to deal with the fact that he realizes that he's out of second chances when he regenerates into the 13th Doctor. My ideal way to handle it would be for the 13th Doctor to be dying, expect it to be his final death, then regenerate, and not really have a clue WHY he's still around.
At any rate, back to Helen Mirren as the Doctor...like I said, seems like it would be an unnecessary bit of stunt casting that would only burn through a regeneration far faster than need be.
My problem wouldn't be that there's a female Doctor, it would be that it's essentially burning a regeneration on a stunt casting that likely wouldn't even last a full series. While I expect the show to proceed past the 13th Doctor, I would like the show to address the Doctor having to deal with the fact that he realizes that he's out of second chances when he regenerates into the 13th Doctor. My ideal way to handle it would be for the 13th Doctor to be dying, expect it to be his final death, then regenerate, and not really have a clue WHY he's still around.
At any rate, back to Helen Mirren as the Doctor...like I said, seems like it would be an unnecessary bit of stunt casting that would only burn through a regeneration far faster than need be.
Well, remember, in an early episode of S6, River gave up all of her remaining regenerative energy to save The Doctor. Nobody - even The Doctor - knows how much that's impacted his "remaining" regenerations.
Read: Clever way to keep the series going if they need to. ;)
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My problem wouldn't be that there's a female Doctor, it would be that it's essentially burning a regeneration on a stunt casting that likely wouldn't even last a full series. While I expect the show to proceed past the 13th Doctor, I would like the show to address the Doctor having to deal with the fact that he realizes that he's out of second chances when he regenerates into the 13th Doctor. My ideal way to handle it would be for the 13th Doctor to be dying, expect it to be his final death, then regenerate, and not really have a clue WHY he's still around.
At any rate, back to Helen Mirren as the Doctor...like I said, seems like it would be an unnecessary bit of stunt casting that would only burn through a regeneration far faster than need be.
I agree on Helen Mirren (And found it interesting that Lis Sladen thought Eccleston should have held onto the role longer) as a 'waste' of a regeneration.
Really though, I'd think the 12th doctor (yeah, they need to do another Shakespear reference with that) would be scared of regenerating into 13, since that could be the Valenard. (sp)
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The Valeyard was not actually one of the Doctor's incarnations proper, but was "between" the 12th and 13th Doctors. Whatever the hell that means. So the next regeneration after Matt Smith's should be interesting, assuming they remember and do something with it.
An added wrinkle is how the Valeyard would get to the TotTL, since one presumes that that event was erased from time along with all the other non-Doctor or Master Time Lords.
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The Valeyard was not actually one of the Doctor's incarnations proper, but was "between" the 12th and 13th Doctors. Whatever the hell that means. So the next regeneration after Matt Smith's should be interesting, assuming they remember and do something with it.
An added wrinkle is how the Valeyard would get to the TotTL, since one presumes that that event was erased from time along with all the other non-Doctor or Master Time Lords.
And there's your answer—erased from time! I LOVE that answer. If only I could erase it from my mind.
I wonder if the Valeyard wasn't in fact Eccleston.
My theory is the "Dream Lord" is the Valeyard. Or at least, the spark of the Doctor's psyche that could become the Valeyard.
The Valeyard was not actually one of the Doctor's incarnations proper, but was "between" the 12th and 13th Doctors. Whatever the hell that means. So the next regeneration after Matt Smith's should be interesting, assuming they remember and do something with it.
An added wrinkle is how the Valeyard would get to the TotTL, since one presumes that that event was erased from time along with all the other non-Doctor or Master Time Lords.
I thought the term was "Somewhere between his twelfth and final regenerations," indicating that he's more of a portion of the Doctor, all that blackness and hate that comes from being a destroyer of worlds, and all - just sort of finally given life by some force - perhaps The Doctor's own fear of mortality?
And Vic, I love you, man, but TOTL did take place. It had to. Because it helped us get rid of Mel.
The exact line is, "Somewhere betwixt your twelfth and final incarnation." It doesn't actually specify 13th, so if the Doctor manages to have more than 12 regenerations, the Valeyard could end up being much later (although I have no idea if they were thinking of that at the time the line was written; probably not, but it works).
And Trial didn't get rid of Mel. It introduced her. All the more reason to fear Trial. Perhaps you were thinking of Peri?
Personally, I actually kind of like Trial. It's not the greatest, but there have been worse moments in the show's history. Timelash comes to mind.
The exact line is, "Somewhere betwixt your twelfth and final incarnation." It doesn't actually specify 13th, so if the Doctor manages to have more than 12 regenerations, the Valeyard could end up being much later (although I have no idea if they were thinking of that at the time the line was written; probably not, but it works).
And Trial didn't get rid of Mel. It introduced her. All the more reason to fear Trial. Perhaps you were thinking of Peri?
Personally, I actually kind of like Trial. It's not the greatest, but there have been worse moments in the show's history. Timelash comes to mind.
No, no, I was thinking of Mel. TOTL did get rid of Peri. But it showed us that Mel is awful enough to kill even the mightiest of Time Lords, thus leading to her eventual dismissal at the end of Dragonfire. I like to think that the entirety of the four McCoy stories that Mel is a part of are a part of the 7th Doctor's grand plan to send Mel off into a hell from which she can never escape.
No, no, I was thinking of Mel. TOTL did get rid of Peri. But it showed us that Mel is awful enough to kill even the mightiest of Time Lords, thus leading to her eventual dismissal at the end of Dragonfire. I like to think that the entirety of the four McCoy stories that Mel is a part of are a part of the 7th Doctor's grand plan to send Mel off into a hell from which she can never escape.The exact line is, "Somewhere betwixt your twelfth and final incarnation." It doesn't actually specify 13th, so if the Doctor manages to have more than 12 regenerations, the Valeyard could end up being much later (although I have no idea if they were thinking of that at the time the line was written; probably not, but it works).
And Trial didn't get rid of Mel. It introduced her. All the more reason to fear Trial. Perhaps you were thinking of Peri?
Personally, I actually kind of like Trial. It's not the greatest, but there have been worse moments in the show's history. Timelash comes to mind.
Mel is quite well and happy living in Coney Island selling hotdogs and sodas to the tourists. One mans hell is an annoying woman's heaven.