I've made a bard a while back and thoroughly enjoyed it. I was wondering if anyone had some particularly interesting ideas to put out there. I have read Treantmonk's guide and thought the net idea was awesome.
Any good ability combos or spells that had made a most satisfied bard?
Hope I posted in the right place...
I heard keyboards is a bad idea, But! what if i had an upright piano as my summon instrument providing me a cover bonus as i played and casted spells.... sounded ridiculous when i though of it but kinda fun too.
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I like the idea of doing an unarmed monk-ish style, or maybe fighting cesti kind of thing, and then using HAMBONE!! as your performance, but it would be rather comical. Perform: Percussion??
Vanish and Using wind instruments to give the bardic performance was fun. Running around the woods in the dead of night playing my bugle and dodging Orc barbarians is always good. That and casting feather step on the rest of the party is brutal in difficult terrain.
I like the idea of doing an unarmed monk-ish style, or maybe fighting cesti kind of thing, and then using HAMBONE!! as your performance, but it would be rather comical. Perform: Percussion??
Perform: comedy maybe?
If you have not done so, you should check out the APG. There are some nice Bard varitions in there. Also check out THIS for general bard goodness.
I've made a bard a while back and thoroughly enjoyed it. I was wondering if anyone had some particularly interesting ideas to put out there. I have read Treantmonk's guide and thought the net idea was awesome.
Any good ability combos or spells that had made a most satisfied bard?
Hope I posted in the right place...
I hope to make a Controller Bard, as per the Treantmonk guide. I'll switch to a scorpion whip so I can deal lethal damage or maybe the spiked chain, but that's what I'm thinking.
I hope to make a Controller Bard, as per the Treantmonk guide. I'll switch to a scorpion whip so I can deal lethal damage or maybe the spiked chain, but that's what I'm thinking.
Whip&Trip bard is good fun. If you go for a Finesse build, check out Serpent Lash feat. With AgileManeuvers/Fury'sFall and Improved Trip, you'll have guys provoking from the beeftanks left and right.
For spells, the Finale and Inspiration lines are incredible. Ghostbane Dirge is great too, if you can land it. Versatile Weapon not only buffs a weapon, but will bypass some DR, too.
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I've been itching to play a chaotic neutral/misc jerk alignment bard who simply loves a good fight. Declare everyone in the combat as your ally and buff buff buff buff!
''I'm buffing everyone with my bardic powers!''
''The party enjoys a +2 to hit and damage!''
''No, I'm buffing *everyone* with my bardic powers!
''What? Even the..?''
''Yes, everyone!''
FIGHT!
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No love for Treantmonk's wondeful Guide to Bards yet? For shame.
Bards were Pathfinder's Level 1 Gish class even before the APG. They are pure win. Have fun!
No love for Treantmonk's wondeful Guide to Bards yet? For shame.
Bards were Pathfinder's Level 1 Gish class even before the APG. They are pure win. Have fun!
Think you missed the part where we mentioned it every other post.
@Grick: I really want to give it a shot, it looks crazy fun. I was wary of going for Weapon Finesse since Str is used for CMB, but with Agile Maneuvers this wouldn't be a problem at all! Gonna be a bit heavy on feats though, I might dip into fighter at lvl 1 for this.
1. Agile Maneuvers
2. Weapon Finesse
3. Combat Expertise
4. Improved Trip
5. Serpent's Lash
6. Greater Trip
7. Fury's Fall
8. Fury's Snare
I'd probably drop Fury's Fall and Snare if I had to drop anything. They're really nice, but I don't want to miss out on metamagic for casting and performing.
I was wary of going for Weapon Finesse since Str is used for CMB, but with Agile Maneuvers this wouldn't be a problem at all! Gonna be a bit heavy on feats though, I might dip into fighter at lvl 1 for this.
If you're taking Agile Maneuvers, skip Fury's. Fall won't give you anything, and Snare isn't really that great, since it doesn't say what kind of action it is to attempt the DC10Str/DC15Escape checks, and the strength check breaks your whip.
If you go Human, you could go:
1st(H) Weapon Finesse
1st Agile Maneuvers
3rd Serpent's Lash
5th Combat Expertise
7th Improved Trip
9th Greater Trip (Can't get before 9th due to BAB)
for your performance, i reccomend dancing.
you don't need to use your hands, (thus allowing free hand for weapon or spells)
you can move whilst dancing
you can dance while silenced and still provide bonuses
and you don't need an instrument to dance.
you can easily come up with thousands of flavors of dance.
if you wish, you may take improved unarmed strike and call yourself a Capoera master.
the fun thing with dancing and the scorpion whip is that you can make Devo references.
I was looking through the APG and found the Breadth of Experience and thought it would be cool for a Bard. With it and a decent INT an elven bard would have insane rolls on any knowledge he put at least 1 pt into. An Elf with a 16 INT (After racial adjustment) would be starting at +10, and +17 by 5th when you get lore master.
I was looking through the APG and found the Breadth of Experience and thought it would be cool for a Bard. With it and a decent INT an elven bard would have insane rolls on any knowledge he put at least 1 pt into. An Elf with a 16 INT (After racial adjustment) would be starting at +10, and +17 by 5th when you get lore master.
The archivist bard in my Kingmaker game took that at level 1 since she plays a gnome. It is FANTASTIC FOR BARDS.
No love for Treantmonk's wondeful Guide to Bards yet? For shame.
Bards were Pathfinder's Level 1 Gish class even before the APG. They are pure win. Have fun!
Thank for this link! I have an upcoming Bard/Paladin and it's helping a bit in the planning.