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Will making a monster-a-day series for a week attract viewers?

I know it would if I could get properly monstrous pictures...


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Or would that kind of monstrous pictures scare away those few remaining people and bots that visit my blog from time to time?


Meh. Personally I'm monstered out with Bestiary 5. I already was by B3, to be Honest.

I want tips for keeping players interested. Not the typical suggestions of turning off phones or stopping cross talk...If I could do that in the first place I wouldn't new help. I'm dealing with grown adults who want to play, but just won't get deeply involved until good two hours into the game after it's settled in and even then they only care when it's their turn, because this is almost 2016, and everyone is an entitled goofball with ADHD who can't stop and be quiet for thirty seconds without a phone to entertain them.


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Out of context quote: "Agh! Tentacles in the eyes!"


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I'm the opposite of TGTG. I can ALWAYS use more monsters.


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GTgamer, honestly that's... kind of an awful way to talk about your players. I know I would be pretty offended if it were me and I actually have ADHD.
My personal flowchart for dealing with players: are they having fun? If yes, stop worrying, it's all good. If no, talk with them, make them part of the problem solving process. Are they having fun now? Repeat steps as necessary. YMMV.


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Drejk wrote:

One (or two) of which should be monsters.

Well I have one monster on drawing board (metaphorically, I don't draw... much).

Since it's for the River Kingdoms, maybe a fey version of one (or more) of these cats? Bonus points if they can be gained as a familiar.


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thegreenteagamer wrote:

Meh. Personally I'm monstered out with Bestiary 5. I already was by B3, to be Honest.

I want tips for keeping players interested. Not the typical suggestions of turning off phones or stopping cross talk...If I could do that in the first place I wouldn't new help. I'm dealing with grown adults who want to play, but just won't get deeply involved until good two hours into the game after it's settled in and even then they only care when it's their turn, because this is almost 2016, and everyone is an entitled goofball with ADHD who can't stop and be quiet for thirty seconds without a phone to entertain them.

I can help out with the phones. A micro EMP underneath the table will make it to where they can't use their phones. As for cross talk... Hmmmnnnnnn... Gags?


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lynora wrote:

GTgamer, honestly that's... kind of an awful way to talk about your players. I know I would be pretty offended if it were me and I actually have ADHD.

My personal flowchart for dealing with players: are they having fun? If yes, stop worrying, it's all good. If no, talk with them, make them part of the problem solving process. Are they having fun now? Repeat steps as necessary. YMMV.

Spoiler to not totally derail:

I actually have ADHD (really REALLY bad) and I'm not offended when GMs snap at me to stop goofing off and pay attention. No, I actually try to overcome my disorder instead of using my diagnosis as a crutch and an excuse to not pay attention. I interrupt people a LOT in real conversations, and zone out, and go on tangents...but I also recognize that is not socially appropriate, and I am a human being capable of bettering myself and at least attempting to get incrementally improved, and so I apologize after I interrupt, and I try to find ways to increase my attention...and people usually recognize my effort, even if I'm not there yet. I ask only the same effort you TRY and be a team player paying attention from others.

I know that talking to players is the way to go. It's the only way to go. Pretty sure I spent a lot of time linking a thread trying to get it stickied that said thats the ONLY way to solve all group problems. My latest group this is not a major problem with. It happens, but I've been with these folks enough where I know what hooks pull them in now, but it was years before I got this comfortable with a group of friends where that happened.

But "are they having fun" isn't the only question. The GMs fun matters too. He or she also puts a significant amount more work into making the game work than the players, and it's extremely disrespectful after all the work the GM does to pay half attention when he's talking, or constantly ask "wait, what's our quest again? Who's rhis girl? Wait, why can't we teleport there again?" Why bother making a story at all if it won't be paid attention to?

...But those same players are the same type to whine about no dimension if you just stick them in a dungeon grind with no chance for them to diva out in front of the other players.

My point was monsters we have a lot of. I like game tips. This was in response to "would people like a monster of the day" question.


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thegreenteagamer wrote:

Meh. Personally I'm monstered out with Bestiary 5. I already was by B3, to be Honest.

I want tips for keeping players interested. Not the typical suggestions of turning off phones or stopping cross talk...If I could do that in the first place I wouldn't new help. I'm dealing with grown adults who want to play, but just won't get deeply involved until good two hours into the game after it's settled in and even then they only care when it's their turn, because this is almost 2016, and everyone is an entitled goofball with ADHD who can't stop and be quiet for thirty seconds without a phone to entertain them.

My first reaction would be "start earlier and let the first two hours of game meeting be loose social meeting to talk about things, gossip, joke, et al." But if they really are only interested during their turns instead of all the time... Uh. I am not sure if I can offer a solution.


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I don't do advice much, honestly. World-building and sharing ideas mostly.

TGTG has the point in that GM is a member of the group and has the right to enjoy session to, and even if the players enjoy the game, there might be things that spoil GM's fun and that is a problem that should be solved as well. What is the point of GMing when it is not fun anyway? Well, except when you GM for people who are feeding you... It is perfectly acceptable to GM without having fun when your players bring you food! (EDIT: or you go earlier to their home to get dinner before session).


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Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Doom! Gloom! Ice and Snow!

Are all in the forecast for tomorrow, at least according to the news websites.

So how much ice and snow could possibly cause the notoriously drunkenly stoic natives such doom! And gloom!

A tenth of an inch of ice with up to a foot of snow to follow, our area is personally set to get walloped by an astoundingly catastrophic 2.5 inches.

The first snowfall in a month can be so dramatic!

it's taking too long. We need snow now.
*binds and gags Freehold DM to prevent him from tampering with the weather*

muffled

Et tu, CH!?

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Evening FaWtL. I hope everyone is well and has been having a wonderful festive season so far. Mine's been pretty darn good so far, friends, family, lots of gaming. May the good times roll on.

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I always find the Player/GM thing interesting when it comes up on the forums because it always seem very different than my own experiences. Each to their own, YMMV, etc, etc. The main thing is everyone has a bit of fun.

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Going to see Star Wars!

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Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Doom! Gloom! Ice and Snow!

Are all in the forecast for tomorrow, at least according to the news websites.

So how much ice and snow could possibly cause the notoriously drunkenly stoic natives such doom! And gloom!

A tenth of an inch of ice with up to a foot of snow to follow, our area is personally set to get walloped by an astoundingly catastrophic 2.5 inches.

The first snowfall in a month can be so dramatic!

it's taking too long. We need snow now.
*binds and gags Freehold DM to prevent him from tampering with the weather*

muffled

Et tu, CH!?

Don't worry. Snow will come regardless of how you or I feel about it.


Captain Yesterday's improvisational film review of the something, something.

Sits down in an oversized pretentiously leather chair, wearing corduroy slacks, a tweed jacket, and too small glasses perched entirely too far from the eyes, hair pulled tightly back into a ponytail

Today we'll be discussing The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies,

It f$&!ing sucked.

It was two hours too long, so many scenes that went nowhere with wasted exposition, I'm also im pretty sure some of those scenes in the City at the end we're outtakes from the Lord of the Rings, we get it Peter Jackson, you got a white stone guy! Also did none of the actors playing dwarves read the book, they had three movies to practice their death scenes, you'd think they might've practiced more. And for that matter, wasn't there way more dwarves killed from the original party, just sayin' there was an awful lot of dwarves living at the end.

readjusts glasses, wipes away froth, and smoothes back messed up hair

So, overall needs improvement, and hopefully Joss Whedon can breathe more life into The Silmarillion. Next... whenever, we'll review... whatever.


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LordSynos is entirely too generous. Note that I am not OBJECTING and will GLADLY accept ANY freebies. But that does not change that he is being too generous. THANK YOU LordSynos!!!


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Thanks for the FAWTLmas gift Synos! Love the music from the Epic Battle Fantasy series but I've only played the earliest parts of III, so very excited to see IV pop up in my library =D


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Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Doom! Gloom! Ice and Snow!

Are all in the forecast for tomorrow, at least according to the news websites.

So how much ice and snow could possibly cause the notoriously drunkenly stoic natives such doom! And gloom!

A tenth of an inch of ice with up to a foot of snow to follow, our area is personally set to get walloped by an astoundingly catastrophic 2.5 inches.

The first snowfall in a month can be so dramatic!

it's taking too long. We need snow now.
*binds and gags Freehold DM to prevent him from tampering with the weather*

muffled

Et tu, CH!?

Kwitcher b&+@&in. Some places you pay good money for that service.


Who puts eggs in ranch dressing? Grar.

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Did I mention that I love Xmas? Cause I bloody love Xmas! :D

PS:
If any other FaWtL'ers would like a FaWtL-mas gift, just let me know. :) I've already ambushed all the Steam FaWtLites with a wishlist. :P

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It is time to eat pizza and play dwarves (in NWN) and I'm all out of pizza!


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I'm down for eating dwarves.

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I love the smell of a money league fantasy football championship in the bag on a Sunday evening. Christmas just keeps on giving, it seems.

Money AND bragging rights are a lovely combo.


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LordSynos wrote:

Did I mention that I love Xmas? Cause I bloody love Xmas! :D

** spoiler omitted **

I may have to catch you the next time around. The new notebook is on order and actually has enough CPU and GPU horsepower to be moderately successful at tackling not-too-old games. I'll still have to gut/clean reinstall Win10, and then play a few Steam games I've had for a while now and never actually played. I'm dying to finally get into War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron.


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Never shoot at a swarm of giant ants while standing still with your back against a wall.

Even if you keep killing them, if there's a dozen more, you need an escape route.

Might have a dead vault dweller soon. Poor guy is surrounded, and in Savage Worlds, superior numbers and positioning mean way more than stats.


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Don't you hate it when your domestic partner makes something they don't usually make, and make it look fancy. You have no idea what it's for (if anything), no parties soon, and man does it look good.

I know, I'll just have a little then smooth it over afterwards, that always (never) works! Oh crap, now it looks worse...


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captain yesterday wrote:
...Hobbit rant...

This may help explain some of the movie's problems.


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thegreenteagamer wrote:
lynora wrote:

GTgamer, honestly that's... kind of an awful way to talk about your players. I know I would be pretty offended if it were me and I actually have ADHD.

My personal flowchart for dealing with players: are they having fun? If yes, stop worrying, it's all good. If no, talk with them, make them part of the problem solving process. Are they having fun now? Repeat steps as necessary. YMMV.
** spoiler omitted **...

'further musings:

You're right that the GM should have fun too, and I apologize that my earlier post was a bit too flippant to properly express that. I consider the GM to be a player too, albeit one who has volunteered to do extra work so everyone else can have fun. That's part of the point of everyone involved sitting down and negotiating what works best for them so that the whole group has fun. Anytime it breaks down into an us versus them kinda deal, it usually means trouble, and in my experience that is the first sign that things are about to get ugly. I'm usually the group peacemaker, so that's a pretty stressful thing for me. My apologies if I misunderstood your intent in your original post. That was just how it read to me. I admit that I am sometimes wrong. :)

On another note, I find it fascinating all the different ways that something like ADHD expresses itself. I have never really struggled with interrupting people or not paying attention. I just have to do other stuff at the same time as listening in order to properly pay attention. Knitting is a favorite activity for that. Or I just end up tapping my toes if I have nothing else to do. Staying still has never been an option. :)
And keeping track of appointments is the worst. I'm always forgetting somewhere that I have to be no matter how many notes to myself I leave laying around....
The kidlet has that problem with interrupting though. And my troubles with managing a schedule. Poor thing. The worst of both worlds. :P


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Oh, I can send invites on Steam now?


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Which one is lordjimbothegreat and which one is SlowDeck?

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

Did I mention that I love Xmas? Cause I bloody love Xmas! :D

** spoiler omitted **

I may have to catch you the next time around. The new notebook is on order and actually has enough CPU and GPU horsepower to be moderately successful at tackling not-too-old games. I'll still have to gut/clean reinstall Win10, and then play a few Steam games I've had for a while now and never actually played. I'm dying to finally get into War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron.

Spoiler:
Next time around? The spirit of gift giving isn't limited by time. ^_^ Give me a shout when you're all set up. :)
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Drejk wrote:
Which one is lordjimbothegreat and which one is SlowDeck?

lordjimbothegreat is Yuugasa and SlowDeck is MagusJanus. Haven't seen either around for a while now, hope they're both doing well.

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Morning FaWtLanteans! Hope everyone is well today, and has a lovely day ahead. Dull, wet and windy hereabouts, Irish weather at its most reliable. Also a bank holiday, so the shops wouldn't be open if I went out in it anyways. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. :P

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I don't know where to stick this so I'll just leave this here, Frodo with Gandalf the Grey's granddaughter, Sasha.

Silver Crusade

Morning, all. What did I miss?

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Celestial Healer wrote:
Morning, all. What did I miss?

I heard there is this new movie out, something, something The Force Makes a Ton of Cash.

Everything is proceeding as Darth Eisner has foreseen.

Liberty's Edge

gran rey de los mono wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
...Hobbit rant...
This may help explain some of the movie's problems.

I thought "never bothering to read the book" was the biggest problem ;-)


Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Doom! Gloom! Ice and Snow!

Are all in the forecast for tomorrow, at least according to the news websites.

So how much ice and snow could possibly cause the notoriously drunkenly stoic natives such doom! And gloom!

A tenth of an inch of ice with up to a foot of snow to follow, our area is personally set to get walloped by an astoundingly catastrophic 2.5 inches.

The first snowfall in a month can be so dramatic!

it's taking too long. We need snow now.
*binds and gags Freehold DM to prevent him from tampering with the weather*

muffled

Et tu, CH!?

Don't worry. Snow will come regardless of how you or I feel about it.

but it could always come faster.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

Did I mention that I love Xmas? Cause I bloody love Xmas! :D

** spoiler omitted **

I may have to catch you the next time around. The new notebook is on order and actually has enough CPU and GPU horsepower to be moderately successful at tackling not-too-old games. I'll still have to gut/clean reinstall Win10, and then play a few Steam games I've had for a while now and never actually played. I'm dying to finally get into War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron.

if you liked the movie, you'll love the game!

:-D


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LordSynos wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Which one is lordjimbothegreat and which one is SlowDeck?
lordjimbothegreat is Yuugasa and SlowDeck is MagusJanus. Haven't seen either around for a while now, hope they're both doing well.

i too,hope they are well.

Merry Christmas, belated, if I missed you before!

Silver Crusade

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I hope everyone had an awesome christmas


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Freehold DM wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
I'm dying to finally get into War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron.

if you liked the movie, you'll love the game!

:-D

Yes, The Transformers: The Movie was quite awesome when it blew my mind back in 1986. It's too bad no one {eye twitches} has ever made a live action movie.

{rushes to double-check dimensional wards blocking Michael Bay or Bill Cipher from materializing on the Prime Material}


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It's to late for that, as soon as The Whedonverse opened, that opened the gates for every other two bit hack to get a blank check for their dumbed down clap trap.


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We're having a great holiday season, absolutely top notch.


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R.I.P. Meadowlark Lemon, you will be missed, may you beat The Generals in heaven now.


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Yikes, it's been a busy Christmas on here. Hope everyone's had a good one off the thread.


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Kajehase's three favourite books read in 2015:

1.) Karen Memory by Elizabeth Bear - Actually, this is the best book I've read in several years. You can read it as just a fun adventure story about a girl and her scooby gang stopping a nefarious plot by a nasty villain, but scratch a bit at the topsoil and there's so much more in there.

2.) Luna by Ian McDonald - It's the Godfather on the near-future Moon. Except McDonald's prose is much better than Puzo's. And yes, it does have a scene of people jogging. (Every book I've read by the author has had that.)

3.) Ring Roads by Patrick Modiano - Atmospheric, moody, and reads like a good crime novel despite about perfectly everyday things.


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Jeanne d'Arc by Paul Antoine de la Boulaye

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