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Tacticslion wrote:Man, now I'm sad he didn't.Rysky wrote:Rysky! What have you done?! Now he'll mention... the bakery~!captain yesterday wrote:Feel free to look through those for a snapshot of what the Midwest is like. Or at least, what the Midwest is like for us. :-)It looks like cakes.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, I haven't worked at a bakery in fifteen years.
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gran rey de los mono wrote:To catch up on some of what happened while I was asleep:
Height comparisons: I am roughly 6' tall.
Math stuff: Love math. The video with the infinite summing of +/-1 equaling 1/2 makes sense to me.
CY's pictures: For some reason I can't see them. The pages won't load. Do I need a photobucket membership or something?
Also, my manager has told me I will be getting a raise soon, he just isn't sure how much it will be. I'm hoping for at least 3%, since that's what I got last year.
I am not specially good at Math. I had awful teachers who only taught to learn everything by heart. I need to understand things to learn them so I lost interest.
I can't see most CY pics either.
Congrats for the raise!!!
And yay for puns in the early morning. It is already a tradition for me, I cannot fully wake up without reading some puns.
I think Photobucket just sucks. If you have a better photo sharing website, I'd like to hear it. :-)
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Freehold DM wrote:Reminds me of what Hemingway said of Marlene Dietrich: "If she had nothing more than her voice she could break your heart with it."lisamarlene wrote:Best "House MD" quote ever:
"Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a hooker who plays the hurdy-gurdy?"
I made the acquaintance of an escort who played the ukulele.
She also sang beautifully.
I truly loved the planet earth song from Steven universe before, but she sang it and I wanted to cry. Her voice was wonderful.
I have known women who could do that.
Freehold DM |
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To catch up on some of what happened while I was asleep:
Height comparisons: I am roughly 6' tall.
Math stuff: Love math. The video with the infinite summing of +/-1 equaling 1/2 makes sense to me.
CY's pictures: For some reason I can't see them. The pages won't load. Do I need a photobucket membership or something?
Also, my manager has told me I will be getting a raise soon, he just isn't sure how much it will be. I'm hoping for at least 3%, since that's what I got last year.
while I'm glad you're getting a raise, I'm sorry that you will not be around to enjoy it!
fiddles with weather dominator, sends -8 degree snowstorm to gran
Now is the winter of your math loving discontent!
Freehold DM |
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gran rey de los mono wrote:I am not specially good at Math. I had awful teachers who only taught to learn everything by heart. I need to understand things to learn them so I lost interest.To catch up on some of what happened while I was asleep:
Height comparisons: I am roughly 6' tall.
Math stuff: Love math. The video with the infinite summing of +/-1 equaling 1/2 makes sense to me.
CY's pictures: For some reason I can't see them. The pages won't load. Do I need a photobucket membership or something?
Also, my manager has told me I will be getting a raise soon, he just isn't sure how much it will be. I'm hoping for at least 3%, since that's what I got last year.
I had a similar experience.
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Feel free to look through those for a snapshot of what the Midwest is like. Or at least, what the Midwest is like for us. :-)
It looks like cakes.
Rysky! What have you done?! Now he'll mention... the bakery~!
Man, now I'm sad he didn't.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, I haven't worked at a bakery in fifteen years.
Come on Captain Yesterday. Sure you can "rise" to the occasion. I know that you were "bread" better.
Sigh... now I'll have to mention the bakery~!
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Math stuff: Love math. The video with the infinite summing of +/-1 equaling 1/2 makes sense to me.
But they're going about it all wrong, and that's not really what they were showing.
What it seems like they're trying to do: explain that at any given moment, the math problem is continually flipping between a value of 1 and 0, making it ~(1/2).
What they actually do: point at two different math problems (one of which sums out to 0, and the other of which sums out to 1) and, due to terrible notation, try to claim the two are the same problem and average the two answers together to get 1/2.
The thing is, if you have the same number of positives as negatives in total value (no matter how large), than you've got zero. If, on the other hand, you've got 1... and a whole slew of equally balanced positives and negatives (no matter how large), you've got a value of one.
If math doesn't work like this... well, okay. That's too arcane for me, I'll have to admit! But, in that case, they don't explain why well enough, leaving it to some vague hand-wave-y things that defy a general understanding of the subject, and generally point to poor notation as a method of enlightenment.
And if anyone here has a better explanation, I'm willing to hear it.
I mean, I can use poor or conflicting notation to get multiple answers to a problem, too, but that doesn't make me a super math dude - that makes me wrong.
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I do love math, though. XD
EDIT: And I do watch those guys, on occasion, just to hopefully absorb some of the byproduct of their knowledge. Though some of the videos are too nerdy, even for me: there's this one, where a guy discovers that <equation> nets you a <circle>, and if you regular <this pattern> to the <circle> you make... a smaller circle. The "nifty" part is how you smaller circle along the curve of the bigger circle, and thus make a nifty looking art pattern. Ho-lee-carp do they go on about this forever. It's a cool discovery, yeah, but... I... I... I'm just... I'm not quite nerdy enough, my dudes. I tried. I'm sorry.
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I actually remembered that right after I posted. But then moved on to Photobucket sucking and forgot to edit it.
Hah! Fair!
Seriously, if anyone has a better photo sharing website, I would really like to hear it. :-)
Ffffffffffffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccccckeout, nah, I dunno.
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Shut up, Witch. Your magic shouldn't exist.
Posting with that alias feels creepy today. She was a relevant NPC for about 8 years, she leveled from level one to 20.
Yesterday I had a solo session to see how some NPCs where affected by some recent events from a campaign.I played this evil elven lady that is posting right now. And I killed Lady Audrey with her. I summoned 2 purple worms on her and she was never able to break the grapple or cast any spells. A pathetic end for a Wizard with caster level 17 (highly unoptimized).
I should be sad but I was too amused.
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gran rey de los mono wrote:Math stuff: Love math. The video with the infinite summing of +/-1 equaling 1/2 makes sense to me.But they're going about it all wrong, and that's not really what they were showing.
What it seems like they're trying to do: explain that at any given moment, the math problem is continually flipping between a value of 1 and 0, making it ~(1/2).
What they actually do: point at two different math problems (one of which sums out to 0, and the other of which sums out to 1) and, due to terrible notation, try to claim the two are the same problem and average the two answers together to get 1/2.
The thing is, if you have the same number of positives as negatives in total value (no matter how large), than you've got zero. If, on the other hand, you've got 1... and a whole slew of equally balanced positives and negatives (no matter how large), you've got a value of one.
If math doesn't work like this... well, okay. That's too arcane for me, I'll have to admit! But, in that case, they don't explain why well enough, leaving it to some vague hand-wave-y things that defy a general understanding of the subject, and generally point to poor notation as a method of enlightenment.
And if anyone here has a better explanation, I'm willing to hear it.I mean, I can use poor or conflicting notation to get multiple answers to a problem, too, but that doesn't make me a super math dude - that makes me wrong.
sounds like trouble in mathodise. If mathies can't agree on things, why demand we learn this imperfect art in elementary school and onwards?
hugs psychology degree protectively this is TOTALLY different!
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Tacticslion wrote:gran rey de los mono wrote:Math stuff: Love math. The video with the infinite summing of +/-1 equaling 1/2 makes sense to me.But they're going about it all wrong, and that's not really what they were showing.
What it seems like they're trying to do: explain that at any given moment, the math problem is continually flipping between a value of 1 and 0, making it ~(1/2).
What they actually do: point at two different math problems (one of which sums out to 0, and the other of which sums out to 1) and, due to terrible notation, try to claim the two are the same problem and average the two answers together to get 1/2.
The thing is, if you have the same number of positives as negatives in total value (no matter how large), than you've got zero. If, on the other hand, you've got 1... and a whole slew of equally balanced positives and negatives (no matter how large), you've got a value of one.
If math doesn't work like this... well, okay. That's too arcane for me, I'll have to admit! But, in that case, they don't explain why well enough, leaving it to some vague hand-wave-y things that defy a general understanding of the subject, and generally point to poor notation as a method of enlightenment.
And if anyone here has a better explanation, I'm willing to hear it.I mean, I can use poor or conflicting notation to get multiple answers to a problem, too, but that doesn't make me a super math dude - that makes me wrong.
sounds like trouble in mathodise. If mathies can't agree on things, why demand we learn this imperfect art in elementary school and onwards?
hugs psychology degree protectively this is TOTALLY different!
And this is why "pure" mathematicians despise applied mathematicians and physicists.
The formal definition of an infinite series is quite simple: "If the limit as n approaches infinity of the sum from one to n approaches a single value, then the series converges. Otherwise, it is called divergent."
It's formally provable that the series -1 + 1 + -1 + 1 + -1 + 1 + ... is therefore divergent.
Formal mathematicians went on to prove many, many things about convergent series, such as the ability to group or rearrange terms.
Applied mathematicians and physicists say, "Well, all those formalities about when we can rearrange terms and when we can't are just garbage. If we end up with a divergent series, we're just going to rearrange things until it converges and call it good."
Did I mention that one of my favorite books is, Theorems and Counterexamples in Mathematics that goes out of its way to prove that THIS IS NOT OK!!!!
So when they say, "This sums to 1/2", or "This sums to -1/12", it's much as TacticsLion says. "OK, we're abandoning all formality, we're redefining what we mean by an infinite series, we're performing steps that aren't allowed, and we're getting an answer. So we're going to use that answer, thanks."
Their "clean up crews" then go back and formalize everything by redefining the infinite series so that it converges.
So as I was telling the kids last night, it's kind of like, "This glass of water holds 8 ounces. This glass of water holds 4 ounces. This glass of water holds 5.5 ounces. Oh, no it doesn't! It holds 11 ounces because we're redefining what an ounce is to make it a whole number!"
It's a little more subtle than that, but it still offends me that they perform fundamental changes to the definitions, and then act smarmy and holier-than-thou and say, "Oh, this series really converges! You're just too stupid to understand," when the truth is, "Oh, this series diverged, so we redefined how the series is being calculated and now it converges. Nyah!"
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All I'm saying is that no one knew that I wasn't a psych or philosophy major in college, until I told them otherwise, and several people maintained that I had to have been thereafter.
One of which was a psych professor.
(The problems, of course, becomes clear, quickly, when I can cite no names of formal studies, can't recall the names of appropriate theories, and can't cite my sources. This... didn't seem to matter to some of my friends, even when studying psych. As a psych major friend put it, "Well, yeah, but everyone knows you're terrible with names, and most psych students can't either." It was good for a laugh, but, in fairness to her, I really am terrible with names and can't do that for physics, soooo... I'm just gonna go watch more Isaac Arthur, as, like a certain resident dragon says, I look smarter than I am by way of association.)
((Also in fairness to her, I'm bad enough that I didn't recognize my professor's name on the book I was reading for his class when I cited several problems with the primary thesis... in class. I really didn't understand why people were laughing, and kind of thought they were mocking me for being stupid. Which, you know, was fair, because I was effectively unknowingly dissing a guy's doctoral thesis in class in front of everyone. >.> Man I'm oblivious sometimes. Made a straight C in that class.))
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Is anybody else noticing the obvious parallels between mathic sectarianism and religious doctrinal feuds??
I was going to let the whole math battles slide. But then you had to go and bring religion into the mix...
Gets out the Giant Boob Nipple Gun, begins firing on Syrus.
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So, in honor of the 40th Anniversary of Star Wars, let me post this. Enjoy. :)
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Syrus Terrigan wrote:Is anybody else noticing the obvious parallels between mathic sectarianism and religious doctrinal feuds??I was going to let the whole math battles slide. But then you had to go and bring religion into the mix...
Gets out the Giant Boob Nipple Gun, begins firing on Syrus.
I'm surprised that you didn't get a Fire Mission from Freehold yet. Wait, ... A Fire Mission requires math. Oops, my bad. :)
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Syrus Terrigan wrote:Is anybody else noticing the obvious parallels between mathic sectarianism and religious doctrinal feuds??I was going to let the whole math battles slide. But then you had to go and bring religion into the mix...
Gets out the Giant Boob Nipple Gun, begins firing on Syrus.
the boob nipple gun is to be used for celebratory purposes only. Here, take the standard flaming bike cannon and resume the barrage.
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I'm just morbidly curious what that even is. I mean, is it even a bad thing to be "fired upon" by such? Would Syrus enjoy it? What does it even fire? Milk? Incomplete, giant-sized fatty storage and milk production systems? Huge Areolla? Rubber versions of any of these?
milk.
It does not have areola due to modesty issues.
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Is anybody else noticing the obvious parallels between mathic sectarianism and religious doctrinal feuds??
LOL. It's not so much "sectarianism" as "how to treat your readers".
In my (unfortunately ample) experience, the discussions follow two paths:
Pure Mathematician: As you see, this series is divergent. That is, unfortunately, inconvenient for us, as we need it in our further calculations. So we ask ourselves the question, "Can we redefine this series such that it converges?" And fortunately, the answer is, "Yes."
So if we apply this new definition to the series, we see that it indeed converges to this value under this definition, and we may proceed...
Applied Mathematician: Oh, you think this series diverges, do you? Well, you're wrong! And here's my rock star proof that you're wrong! And here's the real answer! And guess what? It matches real-world observations, so it just proves how wrong you were! How do you suffer through the world being such an idiot? I mean, gods! Of course we can rearrange things the way we need them to be! You're just too stupid to understand the formality of it!