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Themetricsystem wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
(1) VRV is sharing our watching data with Google, which is then sharing our watching data with Pandora. To me, this is the most likely option, as it's much easier to set up a centralized data broker than it is to set up a spider-like network of interconnected services.

This is indeed what is happening.

Cruncyroll Privacy Policy wrote:
Usage Information: We and our third-party partners and service providers, such as Google Analytics and/or Adobe Analytics, may use a variety of technologies that collect and provide information about how the Content is accessed and used. Usage Information may consist of your internet browser type and version, operating system, service provider, the webpages and apps you viewed, the time you viewed them and for how long, game history and skill level, demographic information about you (such as your age, gender, language, location and interest areas, where available), your location, time zone, language, and what webpages you looked at before viewing the current page.
Also...
Quote:

Question: Can anyone use Google Analytics?

Perhaps the most enticing thing about Google Analytics is that it's free. This makes the platform available to anyone with a website, which in turn creates a larger community of users to share information and guidance.

Oooh! Legwork and research! What are you doing on FaWtL? Aren't we all just Greek philosophers here?

A rather infamous indictment of Greek thought is Aristotle's theory of gravity: Objects fall at a rate proportional to their mass. Actually standing up and testing this with a stick and a rock would have taken him less than a minute. But performing actual physical experiments was undignified.

EDIT: Speaking of legwork...


More honestly, I know that the data's being shared with Google, but I work in enterprise software. VRV doing an immediate push to Google is a no-brainer. But the idea that Pandora's doing a nightly pull from Google for its 6.3 million subscribers surprises me; they're burning a ton of server time and networking bandwidth for that pull, and I'd ask whether the few extra dollars they pull in isn't eaten by the electricity bill.

Of course, I doubt execs think that way. "A nightly pull increases our per-customer revenue by $0.003 per month! Do it!"

Liberty's Edge

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More like 35 million subscribers since they're simply just another arm of the radio giant that is Sirius XM, the largest radio media conglomerate in the Americas.

This is actually REALLY interesting to research too, maybe it's just a sick fasciniation I build during "professional development" in my own career but the further down the rabbit hole I go on this Crunchyroll stuff the worse it gets.

Because CR is owned by SXM there is are dozens of possible legal vectors for that info to be used and shared between the many services they offer but... most disturbing among what I did find was the following which is just downright creepy..

Sirius XM Privacy Policy wrote:
Supplemental Information. We may supplement the information you provide to us, or which we may obtain from your use of our Service -- both personal and pseudonymous -- by acquiring demographic and marketing information from third parties, including marketing data providers and advertising entities. We may match such third party information to your personal information, and use it to improve the content of the Sites or our Service or to inform you about products or services that we think will be of interest to you, and for targeted advertising. Some of this information may include: your gender, age, marital status, education and occupation; your telephone number, email address, mailing address; your household size and income; the number of drivers in your household; the make, model and age of your car; the make, model and features of your car audio system; whether you own or lease your car; information about your commute and the amount of time you spend driving; and your favorite musicians and types of music.

So yeah, not only do they know what you search with Google, but they know they most likely also gather information from Google/Alphabet which relates to every piece of identifying info they need short of your Social Security number including the exact drivetime, routes you take, and everything that you DO in your commute that the vehicle itself, and oddly enough while Crunchyroll DOES offer an option to disable Geotracking (which is enabled by default on any device with GPS that you access the service from) it still doesn't matter because they're a subsidiary of SXM who has and uses that data on their own regardless because by using the service you've consented to allow them to share this data with their partners who similarly already gather that from OTHER sources anyhow such as Apple and Google/Alphabet which do NOT offer you meaningful ways to disable it.

I've also only scratched the surface here too but from what I gather it seems that they are PARTICULALRLY proactive and aggressive with regard to what they do with and how they collect user data even in comparison to other media and electronic service companies.

O.O Sorry if this tangent was unsettling to anyone, maybe it's my neurodivergence showing but this stuff fascinates me and to a greater degree it really makes me wonder why the federal government doesn't ACTUALLY issue and create a truly universal digital ID system that can instantly transfer, form complete, and provide two-factor authorization to transmit personal data quickly and efficiently as opposed to manually filling out dead tree or electronic forms. Probably has something to do with fear of 1984-type stuff but honestly, we are way past already there except this data is all in the hands of private corporate entities rather than governments (who actually already have that data regardless).


It's not just your Google data they're integrating


NobodysHome wrote:
In other news, it really is creepy just how deep the "personal tracking" network goes.

That s+!! is straight-up evil.


Themetricsystem wrote:

More like 35 million subscribers since they're simply just another arm of the radio giant that is Sirius XM, the largest radio media conglomerate in the Americas.

This is actually REALLY interesting to research too, maybe it's just a sick fasciniation I build during "professional development" in my own career but the further down the rabbit hole I go on this Crunchyroll stuff the worse it gets.

Because CR is owned by SXM there is are dozens of possible legal vectors for that info to be used and shared between the many services they offer but... most disturbing among what I did find was the following which is just downright creepy..

Sirius XM Privacy Policy wrote:
Supplemental Information. We may supplement the information you provide to us, or which we may obtain from your use of our Service -- both personal and pseudonymous -- by acquiring demographic and marketing information from third parties, including marketing data providers and advertising entities. We may match such third party information to your personal information, and use it to improve the content of the Sites or our Service or to inform you about products or services that we think will be of interest to you, and for targeted advertising. Some of this information may include: your gender, age, marital status, education and occupation; your telephone number, email address, mailing address; your household size and income; the number of drivers in your household; the make, model and age of your car; the make, model and features of your car audio system; whether you own or lease your car; information about your commute and the amount of time you spend driving; and your favorite musicians and types of music.
So yeah, not only do they know what you search with Google, but they know they most likely also gather information from Google/Alphabet which relates to every piece of identifying info they need short of your Social Security number including the exact drivetime, routes you take, and everything that you...

If someone in China or a marketing firm somewhere in the world is that interested in tracking what I do or where I go or what I buy then let them, I have nothing to hide nor do I care if they know that I have nothing to hide.


"The dog just kept getting into the way of my sword. Which is not a defense that would hold up in court."


Themetricsystem wrote:
...Sorry if this tangent was unsettling to anyone...

I personally am really enjoying it. That whole, "As a radio station, we're tracking your commute," is both hilarious and terrifying. Hilarifying?


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captain yesterday wrote:
...If someone in China or a marketing firm somewhere in the world is that interested in tracking what I do or where I go or what I buy then let them, I have nothing to hide nor do I care if they know that I have nothing to hide...

Unfortunately, now we sink into the forbidden morass of politics, but it was kind of inevitable.

It's not that they're trying to learn any dirty secrets about you, it's that they're trying to build a robust-enough profile about you that they can try to push your buttons and make you behave in the manner that they want you to.

Case in point: GothBard and I watch YouTube with ads over the lunch break. Our videos are fairly reliable: John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah. As it nears the election, we're seeing political ads.

And for the first time in memory, we're only seeing one side.

There are two competing sports betting propositions in California, 26 and 27. 100% of the ads are pro-27, anti-26.

So, did the Prop 26 backers utterly fail to spend a dime on advertising, or have the internal YouTube algorithms determined that based on my viewing I'm more likely to back Proposition 27, so those are the only ads I'll see?

Monitoring my life would be an incredibly boring chore. Gathering enough data about me to try to alter my behavior is their lifeblood.


NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
...If someone in China or a marketing firm somewhere in the world is that interested in tracking what I do or where I go or what I buy then let them, I have nothing to hide nor do I care if they know that I have nothing to hide...

Unfortunately, now we sink into the forbidden morass of politics, but it was kind of inevitable.

It's not that they're trying to learn any dirty secrets about you, it's that they're trying to build a robust-enough profile about you that they can try to push your buttons and make you behave in the manner that they want you to.

Case in point: GothBard and I watch YouTube with ads over the lunch break. Our videos are fairly reliable: John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah. As it nears the election, we're seeing political ads.

And for the first time in memory, we're only seeing one side.

There are two competing sports betting propositions in California, 26 and 27. 100% of the ads are pro-27, anti-26.

So, did the Prop 26 backers utterly fail to spend a dime on advertising, or have the internal YouTube algorithms determined that based on my viewing I'm more likely to back Proposition 27, so those are the only ads I'll see?

Monitoring my life would be an incredibly boring chore. Gathering enough data about me to try to alter my behavior is their lifeblood.

Targeted ads is one reason that I actually pay for YouTube. Give them $10 a month, and no ads. (There are still ad reads for the videos who do that, but they're usually pretty easy to slip past.)


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I bought a lamp at Walmart the other day, and when I took it out of the box I noticed it was a little dull. So I polished it up, and the Discount Genie popped out!

Genie: "I'm the Discount Genie, so you only get one wish."
Me: "I've always wanted to go to Hawaii, but I'm afraid to fly. So I wish for a road to Hawaii so I can drive out there."
Genie: "Are you nuts?! That's wwwwaaaayyyyy too hard. Wish for something else."
Me: "Fine. I wish that people would laugh at my jokes."
Genie: "You want a 4-lane road, or just 2?"


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I do not pay for either YouTube or Spotify, because I am CHEAP, and I like ads for BNP Paribas' podcast, expensive mobile telephones, and online betting shops. Really, I do.


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(Two guys discussing their cats)
"Scooter is good. Booker is alright. Zipper sucks."
"What's wrong with Zipper again?"
"He's a s$$+head."
"Oh right. I feel like a lot of cats suffer from that condition."


NobodysHome wrote:
Themetricsystem wrote:
...Sorry if this tangent was unsettling to anyone...

I personally am really enjoying it. That whole, "As a radio station, we're tracking your commute," is both hilarious and terrifying. Hilarifying?

Terrifious.


NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
...If someone in China or a marketing firm somewhere in the world is that interested in tracking what I do or where I go or what I buy then let them, I have nothing to hide nor do I care if they know that I have nothing to hide...

Unfortunately, now we sink into the forbidden morass of politics, but it was kind of inevitable.

It's not that they're trying to learn any dirty secrets about you, it's that they're trying to build a robust-enough profile about you that they can try to push your buttons and make you behave in the manner that they want you to.

Case in point: GothBard and I watch YouTube with ads over the lunch break. Our videos are fairly reliable: John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah. As it nears the election, we're seeing political ads.

And for the first time in memory, we're only seeing one side.

There are two competing sports betting propositions in California, 26 and 27. 100% of the ads are pro-27, anti-26.

So, did the Prop 26 backers utterly fail to spend a dime on advertising, or have the internal YouTube algorithms determined that based on my viewing I'm more likely to back Proposition 27, so those are the only ads I'll see?

Monitoring my life would be an incredibly boring chore. Gathering enough data about me to try to alter my behavior is their lifeblood.

I'm very specific about rejecting all political ads for every party.

I also take ten minutes every week to go through and click on the not interested or don't recommend this channel options.

I'm also incredibly resistant to advertisements, peer pressure, and FOMO.


I have finished Rage 2

It was a fun though rather simple and mindless cranage.

The plot is really bare-bones. Voice acting adequate with a few hilarious moments.

The worst part was utterly crappy, obligatory car race needed to progress the story. I considered quitting at that time. While at the start of the game (well, after the prologue) you get a surprisingly decent armored car that is ok to drive (considering that FPS and TPS usually tend to be utterly sh**ty when it comes to driving around). It has decent maneuverability, it's stable, and armed with miniguns (and later autocannons and missiles). You don't get to drive it in the obligatory race. Instead you get a faster, lighter, unarmed rustbucket. Seriously?!

After few dozen tries I switched (as advised on internets) to Easy. Then I lost the race again a few times until I restarted the game (I think that difficulty change didn't caught until restarted) and even then the race was annoyingly tedious.

BTW: judging from the tons of comments and complaints, a lot of people hated the forced participation in the race.

Anyway, back to the rest of the game. The gameplay is fun - the combat is really dynamic - it was the made by folks that made new Doom, after all - though it is easier than the latter. Even regardless of the difficulty, it does better than some of the things that Doom does. You heal by picking up enemy drops that are somehow random but increase as your killstreak increase, so aggressive combat style is preferred.

The open world aspect is a bit underwhelming though - the vistas are beautiful but the world feels emptyish? There are bandit dens, old bunkers, and all, but it gets blurry and nondistinct quickly.


Ah yes, the trifecta of being frustrated at work (trying to get me to do a job I hate and then the designer decided he was going to try to micromanage me, which isn't going to happen) home (the kids are being difficult) and video games (reach that point in all my games which require actual skill).


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Overheard in the Classroom

"We shook hands on it!"
"And the Europeans shook hands with the natives, what's your point?"


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NobodysHome wrote:

A rather infamous indictment of Greek thought is Aristotle's theory of gravity: Objects fall at a rate proportional to their mass. Actually standing up and testing this with a stick and a rock would have taken him less than a minute. But performing actual physical experiments was undignified.

Thats why science works. Its not that scientists don't come up with wrong or weird ideas it's that there's a mechanism for saying "nah thats not right" besides a more famous philosopher.

Physicist: I can discover the secrets of the universe! I just need paper, pencil, a trashcan, and a billion dollar supercolider!

Mathematician: I can discover the secrets of the universe! I just need paper, pencil, a trashcan!

Philosopher: Hah. I don't even need the trashcan.


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Overheard in the Classroom

"Guys, if we combine our resources, there's enough for us all to make it!"
"Ha, [student] actually wants to live."

I think I found the kiddos who will sympathize most with Piggy when we start reading.


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(1) To no one's (real) surprise, last night's test confirmed that my phone isn't listening to me when it's turned off. Themetricsystem's excellent research is confirmed.

(2) I am suddenly seriously concerned that I work for a company with grossly incompetent upper middle management. At our All Hands today our executive VP mentioned that all raises, bonuses, promotions, and option grants have been processed and we should see the changes in our August 31 paychecks. It made me realize that my new manager had been negotiating with my director and my VP to get me a new title and a promotion, so in all the chaos and then his and the director's layoffs my paperwork might never have gotten filed. I don't trust my new director to have noticed. So, in a year where the executive VP was finally pleased with the amount he was able to offer (inflation and massive layoffs free up a lot of money), there's a small possibility I'll get nothing due to incompetence.
At least that would be a solid excuse for walking away. (I've already got offers from two other departments to, "Please come to us instead," so I'm not exactly an unwanted property.)

We'll see how it all plays out. I can be patient for a week.


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NobodysHome wrote:

(1) To no one's (real) surprise, last night's test confirmed that my phone isn't listening to me when it's turned off. Themetricsystem's excellent research is confirmed.

(2) I am suddenly seriously concerned that I work for a company with grossly incompetent upper middle management. At our All Hands today our executive VP mentioned that all raises, bonuses, promotions, and option grants have been processed and we should see the changes in our August 31 paychecks. It made me realize that my new manager had been negotiating with my director and my VP to get me a new title and a promotion, so in all the chaos and then his and the director's layoffs my paperwork might never have gotten filed. I don't trust my new director to have noticed. So, in a year where the executive VP was finally pleased with the amount he was able to offer (inflation and massive layoffs free up a lot of money), there's a small possibility I'll get nothing due to incompetence.
At least that would be a solid excuse for walking away. (I've already got offers from two other departments to, "Please come to us instead," so I'm not exactly an unwanted property.)

We'll see how it all plays out. I can be patient for a week.

puts on suit and tie, slides into meeting

I know I haven't seen any raises or anything like that yet!


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Working with teenagers is fun. My last group utterly failed to work together because they automatically assumed that there was going to be a winning team. In a scenario where they had been told "you survived a plane crash, hope you can find the supplies to survive the night" and no mention of a victory beyond "try not to die."

I think the tone has been set for the book!


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OK. That was pretty hilarious:

Neighbor from my Parent's House (via email): Hey, Nobody! Can you do me a favor?
NobodysHome (dreading another issue with the house): Sure! What's up?
Neighbor: I have a friend who just got diagnosed with terminal stage 3 breast cancer, she lost both parents to COVID, and it's her birthday today. I wanted to get her an Apple gift card but the stores around here are all out. I was wondering if you could pick one up for me?
NobodysHome Er... I only live 4 blocks from you, so I don't see why you contacted me. But sure, Impus Major is at DVC right now, so I can have him pick one up on his way home. How much do you need it for? I'll have him drop it at your house.
Neighbor: Please buy a $500 gift card, scratch off the back to reveal the PIN, take a picture of the PIN, and email it to me.
NobodysHome: Thanks! I'll call my neighbor and let him know his account's been compromised.

I mean, seriously. THAT'S their scam? "Buy a gift card and email me the PIN?"

I wouldn't even do that if one of my real brothers called me directly and asked me to.

EDIT: I didn't even know the guy had my cell phone number, but he just texted, "My email's been compromised. Please ignore any requests for gifts. Thanks to everyone who let me know."
He figured this thing out FAST!

Liberty's Edge

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This might border on the no-politics rule given how certain people are taking the news but...

Spoiler:
With the newly announced Student Loan Forgiveness program my family household debt is being cut by more than 2/3rds because of this and it's going to spike the bejeezus out of our debt to asset ratio. I am about 95% certain that the forgiveness for my family *HYPE* means that we can finally afford a mortgage for our own REAL HOME!!!

Never in my life have I been so elated by government action nor have I been so positively impacted by it. I spent most of the last day and a half in sheer disbelief and denial but it is finally setting in. My family might finally be free of landlords and at the same time reduce our bills.

I shared the news with my parents who are predictably well fit into their demographic and the only thing they could think to say is to complain about how it is unfair. I couldn't believe it but I'm too high off of this news that I just let it pass and quickly and politely ended the phone call.


Themetricsystem wrote:

This might border on the no-politics rule given how certain people are taking the news but...

** spoiler omitted **

Congratulations anyway!


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picks up cell phone

NobodysHome wrote:

OK. That was pretty hilarious:

Neighbor from my Parent's House (via email): Hey, Nobody! Can you do me a favor?
NobodysHome (dreading another issue with the house): Sure! What's up?
Neighbor: I have a friend who just got diagnosed with terminal stage 3 breast cancer, she lost both parents to COVID, and it's her birthday today. I wanted to get her an Apple gift card but the stores around here are all out. I was wondering if you could pick one up for me?
NobodysHome Er... I only live 4 blocks from you, so I don't see why you contacted me. But sure, Impus Major is at DVC right now, so I can have him pick one up on his way home. How much do you need it for? I'll have him drop it at your house.
Neighbor: Please buy a $500 gift card, scratch off the back to reveal the PIN, take a picture of the PIN, and email it to me.
NobodysHome: Thanks! I'll call my neighbor and let him know his account's been compromised.

I mean, seriously. THAT'S their scam? "Buy a gift card and email me the PIN?"

I wouldn't even do that if one of my real brothers called me directly and asked me to.

EDIT: I didn't even know the guy had my cell phone number, but he just texted, "My email's been compromised. Please ignore any requests for gifts. Thanks to everyone who let me know."
He figured this thing out FAST!

puts down cell phone


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Win!

I harassed the CS department and the Counseling department, and from what I heard I wasn't the only one, so they opened up a new online course and Impus Minor got auto-approved for it!

Considering that's the 3 units he needs to qualify us for the "first year free" scholarship, that's an $1100 course for us!


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Good news for themetricsystem and impus minor!


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

A rather infamous indictment of Greek thought is Aristotle's theory of gravity: Objects fall at a rate proportional to their mass. Actually standing up and testing this with a stick and a rock would have taken him less than a minute. But performing actual physical experiments was undignified.

Thats why science works. Its not that scientists don't come up with wrong or weird ideas it's that there's a mechanism for saying "nah thats not right" besides a more famous philosopher.

Physicist: I can discover the secrets of the universe! I just need paper, pencil, a trashcan, and a billion dollar supercolider!

Mathematician: I can discover the secrets of the universe! I just need paper, pencil, a trashcan!

Philosopher: Hah. I don't even need the trashcan.

The trashcan IS the universe!

Or vice versa.


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It really is stunning just how sloppy the U.S. medical industry is with personal data. They ask for critical personally identifiable information just because they can, not because they need it.

Case in point: Impus Major is finally moving from a pediatric dentist to an "adult" dentist, so I was taking care of the paperwork for him this morning.

Tier 1: Legitimate questions.
Name, date of birth, address, phone number, email address, allergies, a history of dental issues, and insurance information, including the group number, member number, and images of the insurance card. In short, everything they need to make insurance claims on his behalf. Plus the insured's name, date of birth, address, phone number, and email address. Also whether Impus Major has a job or is a full-time student, because I know in college towns there are frequently student discounts for services.

Tier 2: Iffy questions.
The insurance holder's Social Security number. While it used to be used to identify the insured, these days if they have your name, date of birth, group number, and member number they don't need your Social Security number.

Tier 3: Seriously bad questions.
Impus Major's Social Security number, his driver's license number, and my driver's license number. That information is utterly unnecessary to them AND can be used for identity theft. They should never be asking for useless personally identifiable information.

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EDIT: And much as I malign Global Megacorporation for many things, their approach really is a fantastic standard: "Before you add a field that contains personally identifiable information, you must provide a legitimate business justification as to why you need that specific piece of information."
All that it ever takes is to ask that simple question, and lots of the idiotic data harvesting (by medical companies) goes away. I need the caveat because as Themetricsystem pointed out, there are now global megacorporations whose entire purpose is to gather every iota of available information about you, but my dentist shouldn't be aiding and abetting them by asking for pointless information.


I'd imagine they want your drivers license number so they can see your picture , so when your seriously compromised ID gets out the dentist office isn't the one getting scammed by someone with your ID ?


BigNorseWolf wrote:
I'd imagine they want your drivers license number so they can see your picture , so when your seriously compromised ID gets out the dentist office isn't the one getting scammed by someone with your ID ?

Oh, if they'd asked for a scan of a photo ID I'd've put it under "iffy". But I sincerely doubt they have an agreement with the DMV where they can send in a driver's license # and get back a photo. They wanted the number, not a scan of the license itself.


NobodysHome wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
I'd imagine they want your drivers license number so they can see your picture , so when your seriously compromised ID gets out the dentist office isn't the one getting scammed by someone with your ID ?
Oh, if they'd asked for a scan of a photo ID I'd've put it under "iffy". But I sincerely doubt they have an agreement with the DMV where they can send in a driver's license # and get back a photo. They wanted the number, not a scan of the license itself.

If I'm not mistaken this is part of the "we were only able to identify them by their dental records!!!" thingie. You give your dentist a lot of information in case the absolute worst should occur.


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They still don't need your driver's license for that.


Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
I'd imagine they want your drivers license number so they can see your picture , so when your seriously compromised ID gets out the dentist office isn't the one getting scammed by someone with your ID ?
Oh, if they'd asked for a scan of a photo ID I'd've put it under "iffy". But I sincerely doubt they have an agreement with the DMV where they can send in a driver's license # and get back a photo. They wanted the number, not a scan of the license itself.
If I'm not mistaken this is part of the "we were only able to identify them by their dental records!!!" thingie. You give your dentist a lot of information in case the absolute worst should occur.

I'm afraid that's a TV trope. The police will have your name, address, and date of birth, and that's enough information for the dentist to retrieve the records. The dentist isn't performing the investigation, the police are.


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It is rare and with great hesitation that I commit such heresy, but we're about 9 episodes in to the new Sandman series on Netflix, so I decided to go back and read the old comics and compare.

And yes, they've been consulting extensively with Neil Gaiman to make sure they stay true to the original story; in fact, the first episode is an astonishing parallel with the first comic. But then the TV series definitely strays into "based on an original story" territory -- plots are rearranged, characters are raised or reduced in importance, timelines are changed, and so forth.

To their credit, I think the TV series tells a better, more coherent story than the comic, and yet stays true to its spirit. I know even Mr. Gaiman says that he didn't care for the first few issues of The Sandman, so he might have been the driving force behind the revisions.

But they're solid, and if you enjoyed the comic I highly recommend the show. It's different enough to have some surprises, but similar enough to be comfortable.


Themetricsystem wrote:

This might border on the no-politics rule given how certain people are taking the news but...

** spoiler omitted **

Congratulations!


NobodysHome wrote:

It is rare and with great hesitation that I commit such heresy, but we're about 9 episodes in to the new Sandman series on Netflix, so I decided to go back and read the old comics and compare.

And yes, they've been consulting extensively with Neil Gaiman to make sure they stay true to the original story; in fact, the first episode is an astonishing parallel with the first comic. But then the TV series definitely strays into "based on an original story" territory -- plots are rearranged, characters are raised or reduced in importance, timelines are changed, and so forth.

To their credit, I think the TV series tells a better, more coherent story than the comic, and yet stays true to its spirit. I know even Mr. Gaiman says that he didn't care for the first few issues of The Sandman, so he might have been the driving force behind the revisions.

But they're solid, and if you enjoyed the comic I highly recommend the show. It's different enough to have some surprises, but similar enough to be comfortable.

I think that Neil recently mentioned that he did called for some changes himself from the original.

Sandman might be the one thing that will make me create Netflix account and watch it. And then drop it because I have no reason to keep subscribing.


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Just finished Episode 10 (the final episode of the first season).

OK... I am in awe...

It has been ages since I've seen a series move along at so measured a pace, introduce so many interwoven story lines, and finally come to a concluding episode that doesn't race about willy-nilly trying to haphazardly tie off every thread, but instead takes its time to let the rich story resolve itself in an immensely satisfying fashion.

The Sandman pre-episode 10? A 7 out of 10. Maybe even a 6.
The Sandman post-episode 10? A solid 9/10.

Just... wow.


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NobodysHome wrote:
I'm afraid that's a TV trope. The police will have your name, address, and date of birth, and that's enough information for the dentist to retrieve the records. The dentist isn't performing the investigation, the police are.

tears up pilot for NCIST SMILE pilot


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Im getting annoyed at how many things have a mandatory cel phone

Uhm. No. I don't have one. If i'm not answering my house phone, stick your head out the window and yell.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Im getting annoyed at how many things have a mandatory cel phone
source
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Estimates in this report are based on the second six months of 2020. During this time period, 65.8% of adults and 75.5% of children lived in wireless-only households.

Most adults don't have access to a landline.

Your cell phone number has become a defacto national personal ID number for corporations.


We haven't had a land line in at least 15 years.


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Wrapped up book 3 of Carrion Crown tonight. Say goodbye to werewolves, and hello to Lovecraftian horrors.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
Wrapped up book 3 of Carrion Crown tonight. Say goodbye to werewolves, and hello to Lovecraftian horrors.

How welcoming! The Lovecraftian horrors say hello to you, to!


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
Wrapped up book 3 of Carrion Crown tonight. Say goodbye to werewolves, and hello to Lovecraftian horrors.

Hello! Here, let me hold your brain for you, that looks delicious heavy!


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Crookshanks learned a valuable lesson about not asking her uncles what they do for work, and unfortunately we both learned a lot more about plumbing distribution then anyone should know.


Dancing Wind wrote:

Most adults don't have access to a landline.

Your cell phone number has become a defacto national personal ID number for corporations.

I'm guessing that these facts (and my suspicion that the latter is at the root of the former) are the source of the annoyance.


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ALL (DE)'s Mum and sister came over today to visit, and they're always entertaining company. We had brunch and hung out; ALL (DE)'s Mum cooked jolloff, which was fab, and I also learned a great deal about the DISGRACEFUL behaviour of Uncle Bigamy.

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