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I really hope so.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
I really hope so.

I really hope he was wearing pants when he said it. Otherwise it gets weird.


♫ Say, don't bounce your elf off yet ♫
♫ It's lonely in your shed, you feel me now ♫
♫ And took clowns down ♫

♫ Just pee your shelf ♫
♫ Buy anything you can ♫
♫ A dozen batters put their talents south ♫
♫ Wild Uruguay ♫

♫ It just bakes some limes ♫
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♫ Leavening, leavening will see mist rise ♫
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Limeylongears wrote:
Have you been hit by the floods at all, Woran?

No. I live far enough away from the rivers to not to have to worry.


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It really is terrifying how much major corporations know about you.

I've been very careful never to give Google any payment information. When I order online, I make sure the site does not save the card. I pay my bills using bank transfers instead of credit cards. There should be no way Google knows my credit card number.

When I set up my new phone, the *only* thing I was willing to do was give it my email address. And keep in mind that I never use my cell phone number for billing, so there's no way the number is associated with my card.

Yet last night Shiro was trying to convince me to monetize on Pokemon Go!, and I told him I didn't trust Google and he just laughed and said, "Just hit the button and see what happens!"

And sure enough, Google had all of my credit card information. Name, address, card number, expiration date, everything.

I have no idea how they got it. It was pretty scary.


The other "scary" new bit of information was running into one of Impus Major's friends who's now working at a mid-to-high-end restaurant on Solano and having him tell Impus Major he makes $5,000 a month working there.

To me, that's a staggering income for a twenty year old with no college degree. I know it's appallingly hard work, but it's still a heck of an income.


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Fantasy Monster: Pyredancer

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NobodysHome wrote:

The other "scary" new bit of information was running into one of Impus Major's friends who's now working at a mid-to-high-end restaurant on Solano and having him tell Impus Major he makes $5,000 a month working there.

To me, that's a staggering income for a twenty year old with no college degree. I know it's appallingly hard work, but it's still a heck of an income.

That is a staggering income for nearly everyone


I am pretty sure that Google doesn't have my card information.

I could bet on that, actually.

Liberty's Edge

Drejk wrote:

I am pretty sure that Google doesn't have my card information.

I could bet on that, actually.

Actually, if you own a CC, Debit Card, or even used a burner pre-paid and you ever purchased anything online I can just about guarantee they DO have that info along with your address, phone number, and a record of every conversation, text, and interaction online if you own a smartphone.

There is no such thing as a real digital right to privacy if you ever spend or earn money online in any way, in fact, just about the only way to really avoid this would typically be to steal someone's ELSES identity.


New Google scam to get personal data. They started - under a rather flimsy excuse of EU legislation protecting minors - block videos deemed "unsuitable for minors" with a prompt asking to verify user's age by either entering card information or requesting ID card scan (a big no-no here in Poland, restricted only to government institutions, and arguably banks).


Themetricsystem wrote:
Drejk wrote:

I am pretty sure that Google doesn't have my card information.

I could bet on that, actually.

Actually, if you own a CC, Debit Card, or even used a burner pre-paid and you ever purchased anything online I can just about guarantee they DO have that info along with your address, phone number, and a record of every conversation, text, and interaction online if you own a smartphone.

There is no such thing as a real digital right to privacy if you ever spend or earn money online in any way, in fact, just about the only way to really avoid this would typically be to steal someone's ELSES identity.

I agree with Drejk here -- the EU's GPDR is quite strong in protecting user privacy. In the U.S., I agree with you: Consumer protection is virtually nonexistent.

It's interesting how different megacorporations handle this discrepancy. I'm rather proud that my company's attitude is, "It's cheaper and easier to obey GPDR than it is to try to implement privacy on a country-by-country basis," but then our company's revenue stream is all from businesses: We sell to other corporations.

Google and Amazon's primary revenue streams are individuals, so it's not surprising their approach is, "Anything the host country will let us get away with, and then a bit more." (Just take a look at the number of fines Google has had to pay in the EU for violating GPDR on a fairly regular basis.)


Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

The other "scary" new bit of information was running into one of Impus Major's friends who's now working at a mid-to-high-end restaurant on Solano and having him tell Impus Major he makes $5,000 a month working there.

To me, that's a staggering income for a twenty year old with no college degree. I know it's appallingly hard work, but it's still a heck of an income.

That is a staggering income for nearly everyone

Depends on where. A good measure is the "30% income rule". 30% of his income is $1500/month. At that price he could afford a room in someone else's house in Albany or Berkeley, or one of the back yard sheds. Full one bedroom apartments start at $1800+/month.

So for the area, the income level is about "right": He's a kid fresh out of high school with no college degree, and he's making enough to barely afford to live in the area.

The stupidity comes if he's smart enough to put 10% of his money towards retirement and 10% of his money towards savings. In a few years he'll be able to live like a king somewhere else.

Liberty's Edge

I'm not going to get too far into the weeds here but people have this misconception about what the GDPR actually is and does... it in no way ensures privacy in any way shape or form, it instead enforces that that information is "PROTECTED" and the only way to protect that kind of thing is to force everyone to collect that data in the first place and when it comes to any actual products being purchased or owned it also means that data CANNOT be deleted or vandalized to promote anonymity. It also mandates that online agents must make sure the user data can be interoperable between different similar/same services meaning that users should be free to take their online data and port it over to another service with minimal interruption by way of the guidelines encouraging businesses to use the same protection model and data storage formatting.

Take a deep dive into the GDPR and what it functionally DOES and I think you'll be surprised, it's not what the media, politicians, or blogs made it out to be, if anything the GDPR means companies have a FAR tighter grasp on your data than in the past. The general population and even people in the industry who think they have a passing knowledge of it as all incredibly misinformed, almost certainly by design.

Lots of folks get hung up on the portions covering the ability for a consumer to say "Hey delete my data" and fail to actually note the practically unlimited valid and legal ways in which the law outlines reasons for NOT doing this, most of which are simply and easily justified under the 70+ pages of legal exceptions to permit the holding and processing of said data in most cases indefinitely.


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NobodysHome wrote:

The other "scary" new bit of information was running into one of Impus Major's friends who's now working at a mid-to-high-end restaurant on Solano and having him tell Impus Major he makes $5,000 a month working there.

To me, that's a staggering income for a twenty year old with no college degree. I know it's appallingly hard work, but it's still a heck of an income.

Hahahahaha!! That is hilarious!!!

Unless you see his checks or banking account he's full of s@&$ or he's the manager.

Either way I wouldn't take that number at face value.


NobodysHome wrote:
Themetricsystem wrote:
Drejk wrote:

I am pretty sure that Google doesn't have my card information.

I could bet on that, actually.

Actually, if you own a CC, Debit Card, or even used a burner pre-paid and you ever purchased anything online I can just about guarantee they DO have that info along with your address, phone number, and a record of every conversation, text, and interaction online if you own a smartphone.

There is no such thing as a real digital right to privacy if you ever spend or earn money online in any way, in fact, just about the only way to really avoid this would typically be to steal someone's ELSES identity.

I agree with Drejk here -- the EU's GPDR is quite strong in protecting user privacy. In the U.S., I agree with you: Consumer protection is virtually nonexistent.

While I agree that EU privacy protections are much better, Themetricsystem unwittingly summed up reasons for my confidence in my card data not being known to Google. I don't have one currently. Over a dozen or so years I made only two purchases online paying with a card and I canceled it after not using it for years.

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captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

The other "scary" new bit of information was running into one of Impus Major's friends who's now working at a mid-to-high-end restaurant on Solano and having him tell Impus Major he makes $5,000 a month working there.

To me, that's a staggering income for a twenty year old with no college degree. I know it's appallingly hard work, but it's still a heck of an income.

Hahahahaha!! That is hilarious!!!

Unless you see his checks or banking account he's full of s#$% or he's the manager.

Either way I wouldn't take that number at face value.

Having seen the manager salaries in PF Chang’s POS system, I can confirm he’s full of it.


Themetricsystem wrote:
I'm not going to get too far into the weeds here but people have this misconception about what the GDPR actually is and does... it in no way ensures privacy in any way shape or form, it instead enforces that that information is "PROTECTED" and the only way to protect that kind of thing is to force everyone to collect that data in the first place

That is completely wrong. The GDPR requires protection of collected data. If you don't collect data in the first place you have no responsibility for protecting it. You are only responsible for data you collected and you can reduce your responsibility by minimizing amount of data collected to that which is actually necessary for your operations. Some kinds of business might be legally obligated to collect certain customer data but it is by no means universal.

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and when it comes to any actual products being purchased or owned it also means that data CANNOT be deleted or vandalized to promote anonymity.

Except a lot of products sold don't require the seller to keep the data about the purchaser AND you can delete data you don't need for the operation.

Methods and technology used also counts - if you are using third party payment processing you might have only a minimal access to customer data (e.g. you might get a name and an address for physical delivery but no card data) and you are only responsible for the data you actually received. Depending on exact product and service sold, you might delete that data once the delivery is confirmed, for example.

While GDPR is far from perfect, it does work to provide a degree of privacy protection.


Speaking of privacy and lack thereof.

Facebook seems to be thinking I love otters.

<.<

>.>

It is right.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

The other "scary" new bit of information was running into one of Impus Major's friends who's now working at a mid-to-high-end restaurant on Solano and having him tell Impus Major he makes $5,000 a month working there.

To me, that's a staggering income for a twenty year old with no college degree. I know it's appallingly hard work, but it's still a heck of an income.

That is a staggering income for nearly everyone

Depends on where. A good measure is the "30% income rule". 30% of his income is $1500/month. At that price he could afford a room in someone else's house in Albany or Berkeley, or one of the back yard sheds. Full one bedroom apartments start at $1800+/month.

So for the area, the income level is about "right": He's a kid fresh out of high school with no college degree, and he's making enough to barely afford to live in the area.

The stupidity comes if he's smart enough to put 10% of his money towards retirement and 10% of his money towards savings. In a few years he'll be able to live like a king somewhere else.

This is not a bad break-down.

If they have to pay for their own insurance or it's taken out of the pay, that could really drive down take-home pay.

Take-home pay for me here is in the neighborhood of 1500-1600 a month (I'm very, very frugal, don't have an expensive phone plan, an air-conditioning bill, a vehicle nor insurance for said vehicle). About a third-half of that goes to rent/utilities, and I'm living outside of Chicago. Still barely getting by after factoring things like 'needing to eat' and 'needing to get to work'

If they're working at a high-end restaurant, the place might be willing to pay more for help since they're high-end.


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Keeping up with my goal of sending in an application for a job every Sunday.


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It is possible to teach ravens how to speak. I want to train a few dozen to say the word "Run", and then release them into a woods with a hiking trail. Just because.


gran rey de los mono wrote:
It is possible to teach ravens how to speak. I want to train a few dozen to say the word "Run", and then release them into a woods with a hiking trail. Just because.

They are very intelligent...


Hello, everyone.


Hey John.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
It is possible to teach ravens how to speak. I want to train a few dozen to say the word "Run", and then release them into a woods with a hiking trail. Just because.

Cookies.

So many cookies.
This needs to happen.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

The other "scary" new bit of information was running into one of Impus Major's friends who's now working at a mid-to-high-end restaurant on Solano and having him tell Impus Major he makes $5,000 a month working there.

To me, that's a staggering income for a twenty year old with no college degree. I know it's appallingly hard work, but it's still a heck of an income.

Hahahahaha!! That is hilarious!!!

Unless you see his checks or banking account he's full of s#$% or he's the manager.

Either way I wouldn't take that number at face value.

Having seen the manager salaries in PF Chang’s POS system, I can confirm he’s full of it.

Depending on how tips are distributed and my "number of patrons" number, his statement holds water.

To eat at the place he works, you'd be hard pressed to get out of there for under $40. Dinners are in the $20-$30 range, plus appetizers, drinks, etc. From my casual observations at restaurants, I figure one server might hit 40 patrons a shift. And this place is always packed, so there aren't any "down" shifts like sitting around an empty restaurant on a Tuesday night. So my guess is that a lowball estimate puts him at $1600 in gross receipts a night. Once again, since it's a higher-end place, failing to tip will be less common, so an overall 10% doesn't seem excessively generous.

So $160 in tips per shift at a high-end restaurant. Seems awfully low, but I'll roll with it. At 20 days a month that's $3200 gross. Plus California requires restaurant workers to receive minimum wage, so 160 hours at $13/hour = $2080/month.

That puts him squarely just above the $5000/month he quoted, but of course the tip rate, number of patrons, and how tips are split among employees is something I'm not privy to.

Scarab Sages

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Drejk wrote:

Speaking of privacy and lack thereof.

Facebook seems to be thinking I love otters.

<.<

>.>

It is right.

Must be because you're exposed to me


Woran wrote:
Drejk wrote:

Speaking of privacy and lack thereof.

Facebook seems to be thinking I love otters.

<.<

>.>

It is right.

Must be because you're exposed to me

I do really like otters, independently from you. They are such cute animals (in videos, I don't think I have seen one live, maybe ages ago in a zoo, and I haven't been in a zoo in over 30 years, I think).


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I woke up from a nap with a headache. And then the world processed to stress me, showing me suspicious white vertical bands on the side of the screen when I was starting the computer...

I have reset it and now it seems to be working fine, but it's a worrying symptom. Replacing a computer (or even simply getting it serviced) would be a serious financial blow right.

Not to mention the strain to my eyes with going back to laptop's 1380x780... And the noticeable difference in speed.


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Ugh. My alma mater just sent me a "save the date" refrigerator magnet for my 25-year reunion. This was so much easier to avoid when I lived two thousand miles away.
So let me simplify:
The few classmates I might actually want to see? I have their cellphone numbers and don't need a reunion weekend to get together. Most of them weren't in my year, anyway. My favorite professors are dead. My old flame is dead, and he dropped out before he graduated so he wouldn't have been there anyway. And the university has only gotten more ridiculously right-wing, and I haven't been Catholic since two popes ago. Just no.


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About to go home. Good night, everyone.


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Good night, John.


Just remember to turn the otter cheek!


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Most effective torture ever!


gran rey de los mono wrote:
Most effective torture ever!

NO!!! NOT THAT ONE! Give me the otter torture! The otter one!


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Sharoth wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Most effective torture ever!
NO!!! NOT THAT ONE! Give me the otter torture! The otter one!

You want me to torture otters? What kind of a monster do you think I am!?!


gran rey de los mono wrote:
Most effective torture ever!

He barely held it for the hug.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Most effective torture ever!
He barely held it for the hug.

To be fair, the corpse was laughing a lot. Could make it hard to hug.


gran rey de los mono wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Most effective torture ever!
He barely held it for the hug.
To be fair, the corpse was laughing a lot. Could make it hard to hug.

Fair.

Scarab Sages

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lisamarlene wrote:
and I haven't been Catholic since two popes ago. Just no.

Lisamarlene gets cookies!


This can sometimes be an effective means of getting information.


gran rey de los mono wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Most effective torture ever!
NO!!! NOT THAT ONE! Give me the otter torture! The otter one!
You want me to torture otters? What kind of a monster do you think I am!?!

This one.


Freehold DM wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Most effective torture ever!
NO!!! NOT THAT ONE! Give me the otter torture! The otter one!
You want me to torture otters? What kind of a monster do you think I am!?!
This one.

Yeah...I don't drink.


lisamarlene wrote:

Ugh. My alma mater just sent me a "save the date" refrigerator magnet for my 25-year reunion. This was so much easier to avoid when I lived two thousand miles away.

So let me simplify:
The few classmates I might actually want to see? I have their cellphone numbers and don't need a reunion weekend to get together. Most of them weren't in my year, anyway. My favorite professors are dead. My old flame is dead, and he dropped out before he graduated so he wouldn't have been there anyway. And the university has only gotten more ridiculously right-wing, and I haven't been Catholic since two popes ago. Just no.

I like the idea of popes as a measurement of time.


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When I was seventeeeeen,
It was a very good pope...


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Limeylongears wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:

Ugh. My alma mater just sent me a "save the date" refrigerator magnet for my 25-year reunion. This was so much easier to avoid when I lived two thousand miles away.

So let me simplify:
The few classmates I might actually want to see? I have their cellphone numbers and don't need a reunion weekend to get together. Most of them weren't in my year, anyway. My favorite professors are dead. My old flame is dead, and he dropped out before he graduated so he wouldn't have been there anyway. And the university has only gotten more ridiculously right-wing, and I haven't been Catholic since two popes ago. Just no.
I like the idea of popes as a measurement of time.

Four score and seven popes ago, our four fathers fought Norse on this consonant a blue patient, deceived by flibbertygibits, and medicated to the preposition that mall hens are conflated evilly.


So wait, if I don't know anything about the pope, or how many there's been, does that mean that time doesn't work for me.


Limeylongears wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:

Ugh. My alma mater just sent me a "save the date" refrigerator magnet for my 25-year reunion. This was so much easier to avoid when I lived two thousand miles away.

So let me simplify:
The few classmates I might actually want to see? I have their cellphone numbers and don't need a reunion weekend to get together. Most of them weren't in my year, anyway. My favorite professors are dead. My old flame is dead, and he dropped out before he graduated so he wouldn't have been there anyway. And the university has only gotten more ridiculously right-wing, and I haven't been Catholic since two popes ago. Just no.
I like the idea of popes as a measurement of time.

Japan already does this with emperors.


gran rey de los mono wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Most effective torture ever!
NO!!! NOT THAT ONE! Give me the otter torture! The otter one!
You want me to torture otters? What kind of a monster do you think I am!?!
This one.
Yeah...I don't drink.

I thought you were Sun Wukong this whole time! I'm suing!

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