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The preceding post may not be 100% accurate. For instance, they likely did more than just cocaine workshopping before they came up with the plot.

Also, they may or may not have stolen my pants.


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Classical music might be more popular if each piece wasn't 15 minutes long and have names like "Piano Concerto No. 2 in E Minor, Op. 27 V: Aglio Olio Peperoncino Waluigi."


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The trick to classical is you have to listen to it over and over to appreciate it. It gets better with time. as opposed to most pop which gets worse.


If we could engineer trees that function as cell phone/wifi towers people would plant so many trees that we could reverse climate change.


I am all for it.


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A poem for Freehold. And other degenerates.

Spoiler:

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I porn-surfed, weak and weary.
Over many a strange and spurious porn site of "hot chicks galore".
When I clicked my favorite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning.
And my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour.
"Tis not possible," I muttered, "Give me back my free hardcore!"
Quoth the server..."404".

Scarab Sages

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Ah, your thirties. Where you can have back pain because you slept wrong


Woran wrote:
Ah, your thirties. Where you can have back pain because you slept wrong

True words.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
The trick to classical is you have to listen to it over and over to appreciate it. It gets better with time. as opposed to most pop which gets worse.

You do realize that classical was pop at one point in time.


Woran wrote:
Ah, your thirties. Where you can have back pain because you slept wrong

I'll be by to massage you momentarily.


Freehold DM wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
The trick to classical is you have to listen to it over and over to appreciate it. It gets better with time. as opposed to most pop which gets worse.
You do realize that classical was pop ar one point in time.

And you of course know that they are very different!


Vidmaster7 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
The trick to classical is you have to listen to it over and over to appreciate it. It gets better with time. as opposed to most pop which gets worse.
You do realize that classical was pop ar one point in time.
And you of course know that they are very different!

Nope.

Classical music that was not a part of religious services was seen as a corrupting influence by some, similar to today.


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Observation:

Victorian England: 1837-1901
American Old West: 1803-1912
Meiji Restoration: 1868-1912
French Privateering in the the Gulf of Mexico: ended in the 1820s/1830s

Conclusion:

An adventuring party consisting of a Victorian gentleman thief, an Old West gunslinger, a disgraced former Samurai, and an elderly French pirate is 100% historically plausible.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
The trick to classical is you have to listen to it over and over to appreciate it. It gets better with time. as opposed to most pop which gets worse.
You do realize that classical was pop ar one point in time.
And you of course know that they are very different!

Nope.

Classical music that was not a part of religious services was seen as a corrupting influence by some, similar to today.

I am aware that it was once pop. Or, from some of the stories I've heard, rock/heavy metal. For instance, several famous composers and performers were known to trash the houses their wealthy benefactors gave them to stay in. It was, in fact, seen as a sign of disrespect if they didn't trash your place. As if to say that you weren't worth giving them a story to brag about to their friends. Or that there was one composer who wrote a piece that was meant to be performed for seven days straight, swapping out musicians when there were breaks for those instruments. If done correctly, the composer claimed that after the 7th day, Lucifer would be summoned from Hell to bring about Armageddon. Hell, Mozart had written a piece whose title translates to "Lick My Ass", and then wrote a follow up called "Lick My Ass Nice and Clean".

And of course, the orgies.

Also, during rehearsals Mozart was known to occasionally run around, leaping on the furniture, turning cartwheels and somersaults, while meowing like a cat. Apparently it was just his way of showing that he was bored as f~~~.


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Another composer, Beethoven I think, would exchange frequent letters with a female relative (a niece or maybe a cousin?) that were essentially pages long fart jokes. Some of them were even written as poems.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
Another composer, Beethoven I think, would exchange frequent letters with a female relative (a niece or maybe a cousin?) that were essentially pages long fart jokes. Some of them were even written as poems.

That was during an age where people truly cared about the craft of a fart joke.

Nowadays nobody puts in any effort. They just release everything and anything in the hope that not all of it stinks.

Silver Crusade

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Freehold DM wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
The trick to classical is you have to listen to it over and over to appreciate it. It gets better with time. as opposed to most pop which gets worse.
You do realize that classical was pop at one point in time.

Yes and no. A lot of what we hear as classical music was only accessible to the wealthy prior to the 19th century. There were no recordings, and the average person had no means to attend performances of that sort of thing. Ordinary people listened to folk songs and the like in communal settings, which is really closer to “pop music” of the time.

Now the exceptions and caveats:

Opera in Italy in the 17th and 18th centuries was indeed publicly performed and quite affordable. Public opera started spreading to other places in the mid-18th century and there was a period of time there where it was a rather proletarian art form.

In the 19th century, public performance of classical music became more of a thing, but that is also the era that lofty ideals about music edifying humanity came about, with all its elitist trappings that we know today. Common folk could attend such performances, but they were more associated with the upper middle classes.

In that same era (19th c.), families with enough money that their daughters didn’t have to work demonstrated their status by teaching said daughters to play piano or another instrument in order to bring classical music into the home. While this did democratize classical music to an extent, filtering the music more broadly among the populace, it was still a relatively small percentage of the population that had access to it, and classical music was still considered a mark of social status.

Ordinary people were still more likely to hear and perform folk melodies during that era, although tunes from classical works did sometimes filter down into popular tavern music and whatnot.

Not at all coincidentally, when the ranks of the middle class truly swelled in the early 20th century, you saw the dawn of what we tend to call popular music.

TL;DR: If only wealthy people get to enjoy it, can it be called “popular music?”

Source: I went to college for this stuff.

Silver Crusade

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As long as I’m opining:

The notion that “classical music was popular music” came about in the 20th c. by scholars and musicians who were contrasting the consumption of art music in the 19th c. vs the way it was consumed in the 20th c.

By the 20th c., classical works were consumed as “museum pieces,” frozen in time like a painting. New art music composition in the 20th c. was largely inaccessible for various reasons. (In general, the institutions promoting new music held to certain modernist ideologies that tended to leave actual audiences out of the equation.)

While performances of historical works were a thing in the 19th c. (prior to that, less so), audiences still sought out new works, and those 19th c. composers we are familiar with were superstars among the concert-going population.

The issue is that the concert-going population was generally a small subset of the overall population demarcated along class lines.


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I once had a coworker who told me "You know, you can be insufferable when you're right about something. Not because you say or do anything, you just get this aura of smugness around you, and I hate that. No offence." My only reply was "Yes, I know. I hate it too. You only have to deal with it from time to time, I have to live in the same head as that unbearable prick!" She pretty much stopped talking to me after that.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
I once had a coworker who told me "You know, you can be insufferable when you're right about something. Not because you say or do anything, you just get this aura of smugness around you, and I hate that. No offence." My only reply was "Yes, I know. I hate it too. You only have to deal with it from time to time, I have to live in the same head as that unbearable prick!" She pretty much stopped talking to me after that.

I had a guy on a snow run once tell me "You know, you don't have to work so hard, no one has to die today!" My reply was "That's not what my horoscope said".

Silver Crusade

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gran rey de los mono wrote:
I once had a coworker who told me "You know, you can be insufferable when you're right about something. Not because you say or do anything, you just get this aura of smugness around you, and I hate that. No offence." My only reply was "Yes, I know. I hate it too. You only have to deal with it from time to time, I have to live in the same head as that unbearable prick!" She pretty much stopped talking to me after that.

Story of my life


I also had a guy that after every house would ask me "How many do we have left?" So I'd tell him "3" every time, despite how many we actually had left.


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First, Cyber Biggie Smalls shoots me in the head and then I end up sharing brain space with Keanu Reeves?!

Worst. Day. Ever.

Scarab Sages

Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
Ah, your thirties. Where you can have back pain because you slept wrong
I'll be by to massage you momentarily.

Thank you. My back feels better now.


Mine doesn't :(

Dark Archive

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gran rey de los mono wrote:

Cats:

In the 1930s, T.S. Eliot wrote a book of cute little cat-themed poems for his godchildren. 40 years later, Andrew Lloyd Webber found one of the poems that had been cut from the book because it was "too sad" for kids. He thought "Woah. A cat that's sad? That's deep. I wanna make a musical out of this." The producer assigned to the project was like "Okay, I guess you could see this as some kind of satire on 1930s British society. We could probably do something sort of interesting with that. So we need, what, like 5 or 6 actors, and a few simple sets?" Then Webber was all "NO! Screw the satire. I want a cast of dozens and the most advanced special effects ever seen on stage! I've already taken out a second mortgage on my house to fund this." So the producer asked "Well, do you at least have a plot for the show?" He didn't, so Webber gathered a bunch of writers and artists, and spent about 5 weeks doing cocaine workshopping ideas, and then came back and said "The plot is that a bunch of cats are having a dance contest to decide who gets to take a UFO to cat heaven".

And then it made two billion dollars.

Still objectively less terrible than ALW's Starlight Express.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I had a guy on a snow run once tell me "You know, you don't have to work so hard, no one has to die today!" My reply was "That's not what my horoscope said".

CY: "Speaking of horoscopes, when's your birthday?"

Guy: [says]
CY: {becomes visibly uncomfortable, glances up} "Um, you probably want to stay away from tall buildings and bridges for the next week." {steps several feet away, glances up again} "And don't go near the airport. Or any safe- or piano-moving companies."


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
The trick to classical is you have to listen to it over and over to appreciate it. It gets better with time. as opposed to most pop which gets worse.

I think the trick to classical is to get Friz Freleng or Chuck Jones to use it as a soundtrack for their Saturday morning cartoons.


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Went over to ALL (DE)'s yesterday; today, since her daughter (henceforth referred to as Shanna) wanted just the two of them to spend more time together, I took the little lad (henceforth known as Sonic) scooter-ing in the playpark while the ladies had some hot chocolate and a chat in the sun. Then I went home, passing by my FLGS on the way, did some exercise (sword and cloak!) and then gave the envelope filter I bought last week under the influence of Guinness Foreign Extra a test drive. My review: pretty good.

Liberty's Edge

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We're trying out Pathfinder 2e, and are getting proper done over by rats. We have yet to hit anything.


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Cyberpunk reminds me of Fallout New Vegas, it's buggy as s!## (or was, I haven't seen many myself) with a really good story and compelling characters.

Or maybe I have a weakness for future dystopia games where you're shot in the head and left for dead over some computer chip.


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Fiendish Slaad on Your Shoulder wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I had a guy on a snow run once tell me "You know, you don't have to work so hard, no one has to die today!" My reply was "That's not what my horoscope said".

CY: "Speaking of horoscopes, when's your birthday?"

Guy: [says]
CY: {becomes visibly uncomfortable, glances up} "Um, you probably want to stay away from tall buildings and bridges for the next week." {steps several feet away, glances up again} "And don't go near the airport. Or any safe- or piano-moving companies."

Guys are usually sent with me so I can break them, I wouldn't be making skid loader driver money shovelling snow if I warned every idiot and rube they sent with me of impending doom. They're on their own.

Edit: The hilarious part is I don't try to break people, I'm pretty cheerful the whole time and I don't expect anyone to keep up with me but because of the machismo culture so prevalent in the Midwest no one is going to let a hippie half their size work harder or faster than they do.


Took my son grocery shopping today. We were getting Mexican food, and I asked him to grab some salsa. He went over to the salsa section and froze with indecision at all the choices. I kept an eye on him as I grabbed various other ingredients, but he just could not make up his mind. Eventually I said to him "Come on, buddy. You're falling behind, pick up the Pace."


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I gave my cat a bath the other day. It was not happy, screeching and clawing and biting the whole time. When I finally got it done, I thought "Wait. I don't own a cat."


A group of physicists went to a restaurant. They ate, and then when the waitress brought over the check, they began explaining to her what the force required to accelerate a mass of one gram at a rate of one centimeter per second squared is. When she looked thoroughly confused, they all took off, leaving behind a bunch of hyphens. The manager called the cops, and the officer who took the report shook his head and said "Yeah, those a$&+$#&s have been pulling this 'Dyne and Dash' routine all over town."


gran rey de los mono wrote:
A group of physicists went to a restaurant. They ate, and then when the waitress brought over the check, they began explaining to her what the force required to accelerate a mass of one gram at a rate of one centimeter per second squared is. When she looked thoroughly confused, they all took off, leaving behind a bunch of hyphens. The manager called the cops, and the officer who took the report shook his head and said "Yeah, those a*~&+~*s have been pulling this 'Dyne and Dash' routine all over town."

Oh that one would be good for the "(n + 1) Jokes for the Overeducated" thread.


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Feel free to post it there.


I hope Robot Girls Z gets released in America. I want the blu ray.


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In D&D, spells which are named after the person who created them typically take the form of <person's name> <adjective> <noun> i.e. "Otto's Irresistible Dance" or "Leomund's Tiny Hut". Therefore, "Mike's Hard Lemonade" could be the name of a spell.


Warm up starts tomorrow. F!@~ yes.


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In the almost-year we've been down in Florida, we have visited my mom every weekend, more or less. Once or twice we've missed a weekend, but it's been really nice to see her on the regular. My daughter has taken to her more than anyone but Tala and myself. (She's named after my mother, after all.)

Yesterday, we had our last visit before moving back home. My mom cooked my favorite foods, and my brother showed up with his girlfriend, and it was a nice time. Of course, by the end, my mom was crying because we're leaving before next weekend, and she's going to miss the little one. My brother doesn't have any kids, so this is her only biological grandkid (my stepsister has a daughter).

It's hard. I know we're doing the right thing for my (immediate live-with-me) family. But still, making your parents cry is rough. I had to stifle some tears on the way home from my mom's because of it.

Tuesday we see B@~%+zilla, and even though she's Tala's mom, Tala is more sad about how it's affecting MY mom than her own. (Probably because, in her words, my mom has been more family to her than her own mother in the last year.) There's no way there will be the same reaction that day. In fact, Tala scheduled for us to meet up in a public place, so that we can dip immediately if her mother gets troublesome with a crowd present to prevent her from making a scene (B%%~#zilla is all about impressions and worrying what people think of you).

It's funny how good things can still be stressful. Like weddings, for example. When I married my ex-wife, I'm surprised I didn't have a heart attack for how fast it was pumping out of my chest the days before, worried that she'd realize I didn't deserve her and would leave me, etc.

Now we have four days until we move back home to Ohio (returning to Florida never felt like home), and my stomach has been in knots about what could go wrong, or if we screw up in the future and don't have family around to help, or whatever.

So I've got this mix of super excitement and nervousness and...yeah. It's like Christmas Eve as a kid, and you're not sure if you were as nice as you thought this year, and you're almost sure you didn't get a lump of coal, but that stocking toe looks awfully carbon-ish, if you know what I mean.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
In D&D, spells which are named after the person who created them typically take the form of <person's name> <adjective> <noun> i.e. "Otto's Irresistible Dance" or "Leomund's Tiny Hut". Therefore, "Mike's Hard Lemonade" could be the name of a spell.

Yeah, but you gotta cast it like 3-4 times to even feel anything.


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
In D&D, spells which are named after the person who created them typically take the form of <person's name> <adjective> <noun> i.e. "Otto's Irresistible Dance" or "Leomund's Tiny Hut". Therefore, "Mike's Hard Lemonade" could be the name of a spell.
Yeah, but you gotta cast it like 3-4 times to even feel anything.

Not when you only cast it once or twice a decade.


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Adventure idea:
Sloths aren't lazy, they're just conserving their energy. Today all of that saved-up energy is released...


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gran rey de los mono wrote:

Adventure idea:

Sloths aren't lazy, they're just conserving their energy. Today all of that saved-up energy is released...

So you're saying the animal sloth is like the homunculus Sloth?

That...would be g~~&#~n terrifying.


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
In D&D, spells which are named after the person who created them typically take the form of <person's name> <adjective> <noun> i.e. "Otto's Irresistible Dance" or "Leomund's Tiny Hut". Therefore, "Mike's Hard Lemonade" could be the name of a spell.
Yeah, but you gotta cast it like 3-4 times to even feel anything.

I'd rather save the slot for the Twisted Tea spell that can be used as a melee weapon.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:

Adventure idea:

Sloths aren't lazy, they're just conserving their energy. Today all of that saved-up energy is released...

BRB, gonna go start a rumor on Twitter that Ol Muskie uses planar binding on azata slotheses to power Teslas.


Soundhuevos Rancheros wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:

Adventure idea:

Sloths aren't lazy, they're just conserving their energy. Today all of that saved-up energy is released...
BRB, gonna go start a rumor on Twitter that Ol Muskie uses planar binding on azata slotheses to power Teslas.

I still don't understand why he went through all that trouble. It's much easier and more efficient to just bind lightning elementals. Wouldn't even have to bother with that stupid battery charging nonsense.


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Vanykrye wrote:
Soundhuevos Rancheros wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:

Adventure idea:

Sloths aren't lazy, they're just conserving their energy. Today all of that saved-up energy is released...
BRB, gonna go start a rumor on Twitter that Ol Muskie uses planar binding on azata slotheses to power Teslas.
I still don't understand why he went through all that trouble. It's much easier and more efficient to just bind [url=https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/elemental/elemental-lightning/]lightning elementals[/i]. Wouldn't even have to bother with that stupid battery charging nonsense.

Because supervillains never go for easy and efficient. They always go for convoluted and baroque.


My brain is apparently really not engaged yet today. Took me three tries just to get a URL right.

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