Like I'm gonna trust the naked guy on that.
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Also I will not answer to "Vidders"
o_O I didn't ask you! also isn't Rey-master to many digits? Insert required Mitch Hedberg joke here: "You know when a company wants to use letters in their phone number to be catchy? But often times they use too many letters. "Give us a call down here at 1-800-I-Really-Enjoy-Carpeting." It's too many letters, man. "Hello?" "Hold on, I'm only on 'Enjoy'! How did you know I was calling?"
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Random thoughts after catching up this morning:
old dairy cows rarely get turned into steak - the meat is just too tough and rangy. Hamburger yes, steaks no.
Marriage is both a civil and a religious contract. You can actually do one without the other.
So, are your parents hung on which side? If just the religious side, you may be able to get an understanding priest to do a zoom/goto/skype marriage. He may want to do 1-2 hours of 'counseling' just to make sure that you want to be married and there may be a fee, but then you would be married in the eyes of the church (but not the state). That may satisfy your parents.
Alternatively, you may be able to get the marriage license online and then have a civil ceremony with an understanding officiant (notaries are allowed to marry in florida for example) who will do zoom/goto/skype.
As another note - some states have residency requirements for marriage (TN is short, like a day, NV is 0, KY is like a month), so if you live in a state where there is such a residency requirement, you may be able to push back on your parents with that fact. Hey, I can't get married until I have lived here 30 days...that expires...o, next week sometime?
This is not legal advice. I am not your lawyer. I don't know any officiants or the processes of your state. But this may give you some questions to ask, some ideas to google.
I have a few warhammer40k minis that I painted but my SO paints D&D mins all the time. She getting pretty good at it. I haven't done it lately because... I don't have time to paint... (Existential dread for Nylarthotp)
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If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.
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♫ Vidders vidders bo-bidders ♫
♫ Banana fana fo-fidders ♫
♫ Me my mo midders ♫
♫ Vidders ♫
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Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
.... How hard is it to become a citizen there? I'm asking for a frien... no I'm asking for me... only partially kidding...
if we can also send gran to Australia.
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.... How hard is it to become a citizen there? I'm asking for a frien... no I'm asking for me... only partially kidding...Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
Actually not *that* hard. You can defenitly even come and try it out for a while before deciding if you want to!
Of course its currently all on its ass because of COVID.
.... How hard is it to become a citizen there? I'm asking for a frien... no I'm asking for me... only partially kidding...Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
Actually not *that* hard. You can defenitly even come and try it out for a while before deciding if you want to!
Of course its currently all on its ass because of COVID.
I'm going to save this info for after Covid.
if we can also send gran to Australia.I'm not allowed back in Australia. Or New Zealand. Or Diane's Bar and Grill in Fort Peck, Montana.
Strangely I'm most curious about the bar and grill.
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** spoiler omitted **My parents - also emphatically religious, in the sense mentioned above of being extremely hardcore conservative and exceptionally or perhaps excessively strict and harsh with all possible interpretation of scripture - didn't seem to have an issue with the long duration of our dating, until I moved and it became an issue of "you're living in the same building and not married, people will think you're sleeping together!". That's when the pushing to get married or get cut off from the family happened. They'd made it quite clear previously that that was what they expected to happen, and wouldn't be happy if it didn't, but they were in no hurry for us to actually tie the knot otherwise and seemed content with our six or so years of dating long-distance without complaint.** spoiler omitted **
So, no internet, telephone, or television.
I had no idea your family was Amish.
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I have a few warhammer40k minis that I painted but my SO paints D&D mins all the time. She getting pretty good at it. I haven't done it lately because... I don't have time to paint... (Existential dread for Nylarthotp)
I used to paint a lot. Started with the old grenadier and ral partha lead minis, back when 25 mm was a real 25 mm. Moved to reaper when ral partha/IWM had issues. Took a while to get used to 28 mm, but am a bit tired of the size creep there. Even the supposed 28 mm figs are getting huge. Does not play well with my DF.
And my paint spree was triggered by a friend of a friend purging his collection and gifting me three tubs of minis. So my box of shame is now...large.
.... How hard is it to become a citizen there? I'm asking for a frien... no I'm asking for me... only partially kidding...Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
You could always claim that you are asking for the fiance.
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You could always claim that you are asking for the fiance..... How hard is it to become a citizen there? I'm asking for a frien... no I'm asking for me... only partially kidding...Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
If I could get my whole D&D group to go with me....
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.... How hard is it to become a citizen there? I'm asking for a frien... no I'm asking for me... only partially kidding...Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
Actually not *that* hard. You can defenitly even come and try it out for a while before deciding if you want to!
Of course its currently all on its ass because of COVID.
There is a hilarious (at least in the original) blog of a (formerly) Polish gay smith and a writer who moved to Netherlands, and acquired Netherese Netherlandesse (?) citizenship as he married his partner: Love After 30. The blog is in Polish but you could try reading Google's translation to English (haven't tried reading it that way, can't comment on translation quality), and it covers a lot of his fight with bipolar disorder, disability (work-related spine damage) comparison of Netherlands and Poland culture, with a varying degree of cultural shock, with various bits of his life.
EDIT: Though some posts are much more serious, even dour.
There is a hilarious (at least in the original) blog of a (formerly) Polish gay smith and a writer who moved to Netherlands, and acquired.... How hard is it to become a citizen there? I'm asking for a frien... no I'm asking for me... only partially kidding...Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
Actually not *that* hard. You can defenitly even come and try it out for a while before deciding if you want to!
Of course its currently all on its ass because of COVID.
NethereseNetherlandesse (?) citizenship as he married his partner: Love After 30. The blog is in Polish but you could try reading Google's translation to English (haven't tried reading it that way, can't comment on translation quality), and it covers a lot of his fight with bipolar disorder, disability (work-related spine damage) comparison of Netherlands and Poland culture, with a varying degree of cultural shock, with various bits of his life.
Pretty funny in English, too.
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I'm going to save this info for after Covid..... How hard is it to become a citizen there? I'm asking for a frien... no I'm asking for me... only partially kidding...Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
Actually not *that* hard. You can defenitly even come and try it out for a while before deciding if you want to!
Of course its currently all on its ass because of COVID.
We'll gladly let you stay in our house for a while if you want to make the jump.
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I have a few warhammer40k minis that I painted but my SO paints D&D mins all the time. She getting pretty good at it. I haven't done it lately because... I don't have time to paint... (Existential dread for Nylarthotp)I used to paint a lot. Started with the old grenadier and ral partha lead minis, back when 25 mm was a real 25 mm. Moved to reaper when ral partha/IWM had issues. Took a while to get used to 28 mm, but am a bit tired of the size creep there. Even the supposed 28 mm figs are getting huge. Does not play well with my DF.
And my paint spree was triggered by a friend of a friend purging his collection and gifting me three tubs of minis. So my box of shame is now...large.
So. Many. Skaven. Left. To. Paint.
We'll gladly let you stay in our house for a while if you want to make the jump.I'm going to save this info for after Covid..... How hard is it to become a citizen there? I'm asking for a frien... no I'm asking for me... only partially kidding...Its even more lax here in the netherlands. Nobody really cares if you're married or not living together, except for a few deeply religious types but we've been trying to get rid of those for years.If COVID hadnt happened, MrT and I would have celebrated our '10 years living in sin' with a big party.
You are European, it alone doubles the time allowed for living, as it is said in Poland "on a cat's paw".
Even rather ostensibly Catholic Poland is more or less okay with people living unmarried for years now, maybe except for the smallest villages wholly subservient to and dominated by the most rabid priests.
Actually not *that* hard. You can defenitly even come and try it out for a while before deciding if you want to!
Of course its currently all on its ass because of COVID.
Now your just being too nice! :D
Speaking of parenting and hard decisions, since when did letting your kids socialize become a life-or-death decision... for you?
I've mentioned how frustrated I am that California's entire Phase I-IV reopening plan completely disregards people as human beings. I know that in Phase II I can eat in a restaurant. In Phase III I can go to a salon. But in what phase can I visit my friend? "Sorry, that's not an economic decision, so we don't care."
So Talky McTalktalk wants to join our homebrew game, and we want to let him... as soon as he can come over in person. And of course, California is providing no guidance whatsoever as to when person-to-person visits are allowed.
Because there's no profit in it.
EDIT: And Impus Major wants to resume "Friday Jo Jo Fests" at the house, where a bunch of friends come over and watch Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventures and play Soul Caliber or Jackbox Games, and of course there's no guidance on that, either.
So we said, "At the moment, 2 friends, each on a different couch, each wearing a mask, and you and Impus Minor can be on the 3rd couch, wearing masks."
So far they haven't done it, because they know that when they do, they're endangering my life more than anyone else in the family, and they still consider me "useful". Like a dairy cow before she becomes steak...
Actually, there is guidance. I understand you are old and the ways of the inter webs are arcane and opaque to you. But if you look hard, there is an answer to your question.
FROM: https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/
Gatherings—meetings or other events that bring together persons from multiple households at the same time for a shared or group experience in a single room, space, or place such as an auditorium, stadium, arena, large conference room, meeting hall, or other indoor or outdoor space—pose an especially great danger of transmission and spread of COVID-19. As a consequence, State public health directives prohibit professional, social and community mass gatherings.On May 25, 2020, in an effort to balance First Amendment interests with public health, the State Public Health Officer created an exception to the prohibition against mass gatherings for faith-based services and cultural ceremonies as well as protests. Those types of gatherings are permitted so long as they do not exceed 100 attendees or 25% of the capacity of the space in which the gathering is held, whichever is lower. All other mass gatherings are prohibited until further notice.
Thus, the rule is social gatherings that bring together persons from multiple households in a single room are prohibited until further notice.
If your gathering is for faith based services, cultural ceremony or a protest, that rule is modified to limit to 100 people or 25% of capacity.
So - do any of your games qualify as a faith based service? a cultural ceremony (well, it is CA, so who knows) or a protest? Probably not. So the default rule applies.
So. Many. Skaven. Left. To. Paint.I have a few warhammer40k minis that I painted but my SO paints D&D mins all the time. She getting pretty good at it. I haven't done it lately because... I don't have time to paint... (Existential dread for Nylarthotp)I used to paint a lot. Started with the old grenadier and ral partha lead minis, back when 25 mm was a real 25 mm. Moved to reaper when ral partha/IWM had issues. Took a while to get used to 28 mm, but am a bit tired of the size creep there. Even the supposed 28 mm figs are getting huge. Does not play well with my DF.
And my paint spree was triggered by a friend of a friend purging his collection and gifting me three tubs of minis. So my box of shame is now...large.
Remember to not paint those that actually move...
... I hadn't realized how contradictory that was until right this second. Hah. Well spotted.I've tried to explain this to them, but because my parents believe sexuality is a choice rather than a factor of nature and biology and psychology, it's unhelpful (and very not recommended, as it'll lead to lots of unnecessary arguing) to use the proper terms and definitions for things and the idea of "no I really don't want to have sex, with her or anyone else" is seen exclusively by them as a temporary decision that hormones and libido will eventually overcome.Eeee... So, is that one, or another?
he even beat me, and I am supposed to be working in this field. Heh.
Speaking of parenting and hard decisions, since when did letting your kids socialize become a life-or-death decision... for you?
I've mentioned how frustrated I am that California's entire Phase I-IV reopening plan completely disregards people as human beings. I know that in Phase II I can eat in a restaurant. In Phase III I can go to a salon. But in what phase can I visit my friend? "Sorry, that's not an economic decision, so we don't care."
So Talky McTalktalk wants to join our homebrew game, and we want to let him... as soon as he can come over in person. And of course, California is providing no guidance whatsoever as to when person-to-person visits are allowed.
Because there's no profit in it.
EDIT: And Impus Major wants to resume "Friday Jo Jo Fests" at the house, where a bunch of friends come over and watch Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventures and play Soul Caliber or Jackbox Games, and of course there's no guidance on that, either.
So we said, "At the moment, 2 friends, each on a different couch, each wearing a mask, and you and Impus Minor can be on the 3rd couch, wearing masks."
So far they haven't done it, because they know that when they do, they're endangering my life more than anyone else in the family, and they still consider me "useful". Like a dairy cow before she becomes steak...Actually, there is guidance. I understand you are old and the ways of the inter webs are arcane and opaque to you. But if you look hard, there is an answer to your question.
FROM: https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/
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Gatherings—meetings or other events that bring together persons from multiple households at the same time for a shared or group experience in a single room, space, or place such as an auditorium, stadium, arena, large conference room, meeting hall, or other indoor or outdoor space—pose an especially great danger of transmission and spread of COVID-19. As a consequence, State
Interesting... I checked that exact site before my mother-in-law's visit a couple of weeks ago and such information wasn't there. So they must have updated it after the 21st.
At least they're updating it.
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Then I apologize for twitting you about not finding it.
It is not the answer you want, and it is not reflective of real world risks. But that is the rule you have.
NC you are allowed up to 10 people socially distanced. That seems reasonable, but given the nature of gaming - sitting in close proximity for multiple hours, most of the gamers I know are keeping it online.
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** spoiler omitted **** spoiler omitted **** spoiler omitted **My parents - also emphatically religious, in the sense mentioned above of being extremely hardcore conservative and exceptionally or perhaps excessively strict and harsh with all possible interpretation of scripture - didn't seem to have an issue with the long duration of our dating, until I moved and it became an issue of "you're living in the same building and not married, people will think you're sleeping together!". That's when the pushing to get married or get cut off from the family happened. They'd made it quite clear previously that that was what they expected to happen, and wouldn't be happy if it didn't, but they were in no hurry for us to actually tie the knot otherwise and seemed content with our six or so years of dating long-distance without complaint.** spoiler omitted **
Then I apologize for twitting you about not finding it.
It is not the answer you want, and it is not reflective of real world risks. But that is the rule you have.
NC you are allowed up to 10 people socially distanced. That seems reasonable, but given the nature of gaming - sitting in close proximity for multiple hours, most of the gamers I know are keeping it online.
Well, I'll say that I'm more frustrated at the utter lack of communication in California. I read the local paper every morning, yet I missed:
- Any updates to the COVID-19 FAQ you linked- Newsom's impassioned speech about George Floyd
- Who knows what else?
What good's a local paper if it doesn't carry local (including state-level) news?
Then I apologize for twitting you about not finding it.
It is not the answer you want, and it is not reflective of real world risks. But that is the rule you have.
NC you are allowed up to 10 people socially distanced. That seems reasonable, but given the nature of gaming - sitting in close proximity for multiple hours, most of the gamers I know are keeping it online.
Well, I'll say that I'm more frustrated at the utter lack of communication in California. I read the local paper every morning, yet I missed:
- Any updates to the COVID-19 FAQ you linked
- Newsom's impassioned speech about George Floyd
- Who knows what else?What good's a local paper if it doesn't carry local (including state-level) news?
But celebrity news!
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NethereseNetherlandesse (?)
“Dutch”
Because the English apparently couldn’t distinguish one continental country from another.
The history of the terms “Netherlands,” “Holland,” and “Dutch” in the English language
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Marriage is both a civil and a religious contract. You can actually do one without the other.
They're the type of hardcore conservative who sees them as one and the same.
So, are your parents hung on which side? If just the religious side, you may be able to get an understanding priest to do a zoom/goto/skype marriage. He may want to do 1-2 hours of 'counseling' just to make sure that you want to be married and there may be a fee, but then you would be married in the eyes of the church (but not the state). That may satisfy your parents.
Alternatively, you may be able to get the marriage license online and then have a civil ceremony with an understanding officiant (notaries are allowed to marry in florida for example) who will do zoom/goto/skype.
I'm sure we probably could, yeah (minus the fact that my family's denomination doesn't have priests or clergy). At this point it's almost more of a question of do we want to. Because another part of the whole thing is just making sure we're not going to want to kill each other in a month and have to get a divorce and spend more money.
Like I said, my parents are just extremely harsh and old-fashioned and hardcore about their interpretation of scripture and are literally the only people I know who are actually upset about the current situation.
As another note - some states have residency requirements for marriage (TN is short, like a day, NV is 0, KY is like a month), so if you live in a state where there is such a residency requirement, you may be able to push back on your parents with that fact. Hey, I can't get married until I have lived here 30 days...that expires...o, next week sometime?
Apparently KS doesn't have residency requirements at all, and you both don't even have to be present at the county office when filling out the paperwork, just for the final signing.
** spoiler omitted **My parents - also emphatically religious, in the sense mentioned above of being extremely hardcore conservative and exceptionally or perhaps excessively strict and harsh with all possible interpretation of scripture - didn't seem to have an issue with the long duration of our dating, until I moved and it became an issue of "you're living in the same building and not married, people will think you're sleeping together!". That's when the pushing to get married or get cut off from the family happened. They'd made it quite clear previously that that was what they expected to happen, and wouldn't be happy if it didn't, but they were in no hurry for us to actually tie the knot otherwise and seemed content with our six or so years of dating long-distance without complaint.** spoiler omitted **So, no internet, telephone, or television.
I had no idea your family was Amish.
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** spoiler omitted **** spoiler omitted **** spoiler omitted **** spoiler omitted **My parents - also emphatically religious, in the sense mentioned above of being extremely hardcore conservative and exceptionally or perhaps excessively strict and harsh with all possible interpretation of scripture - didn't seem to have an issue with the long duration of our dating, until I moved and it became an issue of "you're living in the same building and not married, people will think you're sleeping together!". That's when the pushing to get married or get cut off from the family happened. They'd made it quite clear previously that that was what they expected to happen, and wouldn't be happy if it didn't, but they were in no hurry for us to actually tie the knot otherwise and seemed content with our six or so years of dating long-distance without complaint.** spoiler omitted **
NethereseNetherlandesse (?)“Dutch”
Because the English apparently couldn’t distinguish one continental country from another.
The history of the terms “Netherlands,” “Holland,” and “Dutch” in the English language
Duh. It fled my mind. EDIT: I keep forgetting that one, because very similar Polish word "Duńczyk" [doonchik] means "Dane" (denizen of Denmark) and I always keep confusing those two.
A random fact. Polish official name for Netherlands is "Holandia", though in past it was also called Niderlandy (it is occasionally used, though never formally, and feels archaic when used). And the Dutch are called "Holendrzy" (singular "Holender", "Holenderka").
There is a famous scene in "Potop" (Deluge), a historical book taking place during Polish-Swedish war of 1655-60, where Swedish envoy tries to bribe Zamość castellan by offering him ownership of the lands he controlled at the moment. One of the main characters prods the castellan to counteroffer the Swedish king with the gift of "Niderlandy".
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Apparently this is what a cheap house in Albany looks like when you go to Scotland...
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Because another part of the whole thing is just making sure we're not going to want to kill each other in a month and have to get a divorce and spend more money.
Religious beliefs aside...and I'm not meaning to step on anybody when I say this...but it's been my anecdotal experience that the marriages that have the best chance of surviving are the ones where the people involved lived together for a while. I don't want to put a hard minimum on that time frame but the longer the better, to a point. Living with someone day in and day out will tell you so much more about your relationship and whether you can honestly exist together, and divorce is rarely easy.
I've been married for 19 years...just not in a row...I'm sure you could tell.
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My husband won’t tell me how much he has spent on our garden this year. I figure I am better off not knowing. It’s beautiful though!If I took that bet, and won, THEN maybe I could afford to pay someone(s) to FIX this CTHULTHLUFTAGGENAN GARDEN mess I have going!
O_oYeah,... It's gonna be a while before I can afford this, isn't it?
;P
Oh yeah, trust me, you are MUCH better off NOT knowing!
>_<Glad it's so nice! (Can he come and help ME out?!?) O_o
Apparently this is what a cheap house in Albany looks like when you go to Scotland...
Wait, I suck at intercontinental $$ transposing, but isn't that a LOT of Euro?
THAT looks like a mansion in ANY country to me! ;P
Sign me up! :)
(SOON as I win the lottery) :(
EDIT- IF I can get a house like THAT in Albany, (cheap?) I may move TO California!