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NobodysHome wrote:

So...

Shiro and GothBard showed me how to buy the COVID-19 Humble Bundle, and encouraged me to do so since the money goes to charity. And, looking at a single humble bundle, I was thinking, "There is no way in my lifetime I will ever START all of these games, much less PLAY all of them!"

I dunno; I guess if you look at my old Sega Genesis collection I did collect maybe as many games as are in a single humble bundle, but... holy carp!

I guess as you get older you just find other things that consume your time...

SHADOWRUN/ASSAULT SUIT LYNOS FOREVER


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So, is Shiro your brother or something, NH? You mention his name a lot, but I don't think I've been around long enough to learn.


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NEKKID SHADOWRUN FOREVERRRRRRR(Up to maybe 4e only)


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@ CY, Yeah but starfinder is scifi and therefore objectively inferior to fantasy. (/s if it wasn't clear) Also, what exactly do your brothers argue thac0 about? How to do it? Or its (de)merits compared to other systems?

@ Tac, How did WotC treat you rudely?

@ Nyarlothotep, It's really weird how people can have completely opposite experiences. I didn't homebrew during 2e, but I became a homebrew nut during 3.x...but I really never got the hang of making monsters or of balancing encounters. CR is billed as a sort of monster level, but when you're homebrewing one, some things are linked to CR but others are linked to a vague simulation of fantasy physics. (I hear that PF1 makes it a bit more consistently linked to CR.) And with everything except AC being tied to HD, the whole process in retrospect is much more convoluted than it needs to be. And the game never calls out what 4e calls minions/standards/solos and soldiers/artilleries/controllers/etc, which may have been obvious to other 3.x brewers, but was a problem for me that caused many cakewalks and TPKs even disregarding my brews. So when I read 4e's guidelines for monster homebrewing, everything clicked in my head. I realized why I had always had such trouble making challenging but winnable encounters, and how easy monster homebrewing is at its core! Anyway, to each their own obviously.

@ NH and VE, there was a time I would have written lengthy responses extolling 4e's virtues and 3.x's shortcomings, but edition warring never really gets anywhere. Instead I'll just say that this is why I avoid 3.x games -- many otherwise cool and reasonable gamers have a dramatically toxic reaction to 4e, and lose all tact and moderation when it comes up. And yeah I get it, I've been there; I guess I was just hoping for better from FAWTL.


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- hugs my 1st edition AD & D books tightly - I also loved the basic D & D stuff.


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Meanwhile the Palladium systems are just a homerulled 1st edition AD & D setup.


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*shudder* palladium ain't no one got time for that.


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NobodysHome wrote:

So...

Shiro and GothBard showed me how to buy the COVID-19 Humble Bundle, and encouraged me to do so since the money goes to charity. And, looking at a single humble bundle, I was thinking, "There is no way in my lifetime I will ever START all of these games, much less PLAY all of them!"

I dunno; I guess if you look at my old Sega Genesis collection I did collect maybe as many games as are in a single humble bundle, but... holy carp!

I guess as you get older you just find other things that consume your time...

I already have too many of games from that bundle, and played not enough of them...


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
Woran wrote:
Whooooooooooo, drinking.
oooooooooh, hangover
I wanna get drunk with woran!
I'd rather bake.
I'd rather get baked.

Funny, I thought you might say that.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
@ CY, Yeah but starfinder is scifi and therefore objectively inferior to fantasy. (/s if it wasn't clear) Also, what exactly do your brothers argue thac0 about? How to do it? Or its (de)merits compared to other systems?

Buhaahahahahahhahaha...

Sorry...

Muhahahahahahahha!


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Today is 4 04. There's a joke in there somewhere, but I can't find it.


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I say that we double up on that joke. (4-4-2020)


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

@ CY, Yeah but starfinder is scifi and therefore objectively inferior to fantasy. (/s if it wasn't clear) Also, what exactly do your brothers argue thac0 about? How to do it? Or its (de)merits compared to other systems?

@ Tac, How did WotC treat you rudely?

@ Nyarlothotep, It's really weird how people can have completely opposite experiences. I didn't homebrew during 2e, but I became a homebrew nut during 3.x...but I really never got the hang of making monsters or of balancing encounters. CR is billed as a sort of monster level, but when you're homebrewing one, some things are linked to CR but others are linked to a vague simulation of fantasy physics. (I hear that PF1 makes it a bit more consistently linked to CR.) And with everything except AC being tied to HD, the whole process in retrospect is much more convoluted than it needs to be. And the game never calls out what 4e calls minions/standards/solos and soldiers/artilleries/controllers/etc, which may have been obvious to other 3.x brewers, but was a problem for me that caused many cakewalks and TPKs even disregarding my brews. So when I read 4e's guidelines for monster homebrewing, everything clicked in my head. I realized why I had always had such trouble making challenging but winnable encounters, and how easy monster homebrewing is at its core! Anyway, to each their own obviously.

@ NH and VE, there was a time I would have written lengthy responses extolling 4e's virtues and 3.x's shortcomings, but edition warring never really gets anywhere. Instead I'll just say that this is why I avoid 3.x games -- many otherwise cool and reasonable gamers have a dramatically toxic reaction to 4e, and lose all tact and moderation when it comes up. And yeah I get it, I've been there; I guess I was just hoping for better from FAWTL.

You have a funny way of spelling superior, that's okay, I'm dyslexic too!


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
Woran wrote:
Whooooooooooo, drinking.
oooooooooh, hangover
I wanna get drunk with woran!
I'd rather bake.
I'd rather get baked.

That was the implication, I was going for a double entendre.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:

Today is 4 04. There's a joke in there somewhere, but I can't find it.

You do realize that was yesterday, today is 4-5-2020.

Scarab Sages

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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Mrs Sunrise and I are watching a movie called VelociPastor.

We are five minutes in, and it is already as bad as it sounds.

The kids watched it. They loved it. Because it was apparently so amazingly terrible that they couldn't believe it had been made.
Mrs Sunrise died laughing several times, and even I -- a man with never before any interest in B movies -- thought it was dammed funny. And we both agreed it is intentionally bad, the writer-editor-director definitely had a huge laugh making this film.

Its on the to do list

I'm a big fan of movies that are so horrible they entertain that way


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Kidding aside, I prefer sci-fi (sci-fantasy) over fantasy settings any day of the week (though fantasy settings are cool and all).

My favorite D&D setting will always be Spelljammer (alas, the rest of my family didn't feel the same so my experience is quite limited.

Starfinder though is my favorite setting of all.


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Fantasy NPC: Byu R'Pha, the infernal secretary


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captain yesterday wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:

Today is 4 04. There's a joke in there somewhere, but I can't find it.

You do realize that was yesterday, today is 4-5-2020.

I couldn't find it yesterday.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
So, is Shiro your brother or something, NH? You mention his name a lot, but I don't think I've been around long enough to learn.

Shiro and Hi are "just" gaming buddies, but since our entire social life is gaming we pretty much saw them 5-6 days a week for years. Hi got deeply, deeply into Final Fantasy XIV and dropped off the map; he now exists in a virtual community and we pretty much never hear from him unless we contact him and invite him out, and even then there's only around a 20% chance he'll show.

So it used to be that Shiro was over every ThFrSa for Rise of the Runelords, but these days we're gaming online with him MoTuThFrSa, GothBard is at his place for a game on Wednesdays (when there's no lockdown), and I run a game for everyone on Sundays.

So definitely not a brother, since I interact with my brothers only once or twice a year...


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
@ NH and VE, there was a time I would have written lengthy responses extolling 4e's virtues and 3.x's shortcomings, but edition warring never really gets anywhere. Instead I'll just say that this is why I avoid 3.x games -- many otherwise cool and reasonable gamers have a dramatically toxic reaction to 4e, and lose all tact and moderation when it comes up. And yeah I get it, I've been there; I guess I was just hoping for better from FAWTL.

Well, I fail to see how, "I personally hated 4e and here was my opinion of it," is starting a "war", since I'm perfectly happy if other people like it (heck, CY likes Sci Fi RPGs, and I'm still willing to talk to HIM). But you're correct in that arguing with other people about which system is "best" is a pointless endeavor.

Heck, even within a single system you've probably seen Freedold's and my frequent arguments about the "right" way to interpret alignment or design encounters or whatnot.

Everyone has their own style. I stand by my statement that we as a family hated 4e so much that we threw it out. If you enjoyed it, more power to you.


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No edition wars for me, whatever anyone wants to play is cool with me.

Frankly, after years of suffering through my brothers homebrew campaigns and adventures I'll try anything published by someone else.

And yes, I'd even play 4th edition as long as it's not Forgotten Realms.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
@ NH and VE, there was a time I would have written lengthy responses extolling 4e's virtues and 3.x's shortcomings, but edition warring never really gets anywhere. Instead I'll just say that this is why I avoid 3.x games -- many otherwise cool and reasonable gamers have a dramatically toxic reaction to 4e, and lose all tact and moderation when it comes up. And yeah I get it, I've been there; I guess I was just hoping for better from FAWTL.

Well, I fail to see how, "I personally hated 4e and here was my opinion of it," is starting a "war", since I'm perfectly happy if other people like it (heck, CY likes Sci Fi RPGs, and I'm still willing to talk to HIM). But you're correct in that arguing with other people about which system is "best" is a pointless endeavor.

Heck, even within a single system you've probably seen Freedold's and my frequent arguments about the "right" way to interpret alignment or design encounters or whatnot.

Everyone has their own style. I stand by my statement that we as a family hated 4e so much that we threw it out. If you enjoyed it, more power to you.

I didn't throw mine out, I sold them to a used bookstore before everyone got wise (that's how I bought Kingmaker and the River Kingdoms book).


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

@ CY, Yeah but starfinder is scifi and therefore objectively inferior to fantasy. (/s if it wasn't clear) Also, what exactly do your brothers argue thac0 about? How to do it? Or its (de)merits compared to other systems?

@ Tac, How did WotC treat you rudely?

@ Nyarlothotep, It's really weird how people can have completely opposite experiences. I didn't homebrew during 2e, but I became a homebrew nut during 3.x...but I really never got the hang of making monsters or of balancing encounters. CR is billed as a sort of monster level, but when you're homebrewing one, some things are linked to CR but others are linked to a vague simulation of fantasy physics. (I hear that PF1 makes it a bit more consistently linked to CR.) And with everything except AC being tied to HD, the whole process in retrospect is much more convoluted than it needs to be. And the game never calls out what 4e calls minions/standards/solos and soldiers/artilleries/controllers/etc, which may have been obvious to other 3.x brewers, but was a problem for me that caused many cakewalks and TPKs even disregarding my brews. So when I read 4e's guidelines for monster homebrewing, everything clicked in my head. I realized why I had always had such trouble making challenging but winnable encounters, and how easy monster homebrewing is at its core! Anyway, to each their own obviously.

@ NH and VE, there was a time I would have written lengthy responses extolling 4e's virtues and 3.x's shortcomings, but edition warring never really gets anywhere. Instead I'll just say that this is why I avoid 3.x games -- many otherwise cool and reasonable gamers have a dramatically toxic reaction to 4e, and lose all tact and moderation when it comes up. And yeah I get it, I've been there; I guess I was just hoping for better from FAWTL.

I am the height of maturity and tolerance for people who like different things!


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Just so we're all clear, none of this would have happened if Biggie Smalls was still with us.


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Ozarks is a show about terrible people doing terrible things to good people and barely getting away with it (until the next episode).

I do not recommend it, watch Tiger King instead.

Admittedly I only made it through 9 episodes.


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Sharoth wrote:
Meanwhile the Palladium systems are just a homerulled 1st edition AD & D setup.

a lot of games were, in that time period.


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I thought Tiger King was also about terrible people doing terrible things.


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... it's not?


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Tiger who?


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Vidmaster 1st edition wrote:
*shudder* palladium ain't no one got time for that.

Hell, Palladium damn near killed Tony Stark in Iron Man 2.


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Cap'n Siskel, FaWtLy Critic wrote:

Ozarks is a show about terrible people doing terrible things to good people and barely getting away with it (until the next episode).

I do not recommend it, watch Tiger King instead.

Admittedly I only made it through 9 episodes.

I like Ozarks actually.


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Scintillae wrote:
Tiger who?

Tiger and Bunny, obviously

Dark Archive

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Hello again FaWtL folk. :) Hope everyone is doing well today, and has a good one ahead of them. Stay safe and healthy all! :)

Dark Archive

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NobodysHome wrote:

So...

Shiro and GothBard showed me how to buy the COVID-19 Humble Bundle, and encouraged me to do so since the money goes to charity. And, looking at a single humble bundle, I was thinking, "There is no way in my lifetime I will ever START all of these games, much less PLAY all of them!"

I dunno; I guess if you look at my old Sega Genesis collection I did collect maybe as many games as are in a single humble bundle, but... holy carp!

I guess as you get older you just find other things that consume your time...

And this is how I wound up with a list of 600-odd games that I have spare Steam keys for. :P Speaking of, if anyone wants to browse the list, it's here. Free games up for grabs!

Freehold:
I have a selection of games that I have been holding aside specifically for when you joined Steam. Let me know if you're interested and I'll send them on. :)


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Drejk wrote:
Fantasy NPC: Byu R'Pha, the infernal secretary

I like her!


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LordSynos wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So...

Shiro and GothBard showed me how to buy the COVID-19 Humble Bundle, and encouraged me to do so since the money goes to charity. And, looking at a single humble bundle, I was thinking, "There is no way in my lifetime I will ever START all of these games, much less PLAY all of them!"

I dunno; I guess if you look at my old Sega Genesis collection I did collect maybe as many games as are in a single humble bundle, but... holy carp!

I guess as you get older you just find other things that consume your time...

And this is how I wound up with a list of 600-odd games that I have spare Steam keys for. :P Speaking of, if anyone wants to browse the list, it's here. Free games up for grabs!

** spoiler omitted **

Holy crap I have a laptop that can PLAY these games now!!! Let's do this!


NobodysHome wrote:

...We tried to play it. It was... awful...

It truly lived up to its description as, "A low-end RPG video game done on paper."

The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

...is hot garbage...

Let's be real, we all know 5e is just Diet PF1E with a twist of lime.

These are statements of 'objective fact,' not honest expressions of subjective taste. And I think you both understand the difference, as you're both adults who I'm sure have heard similar statements about things that you love.

NobodysHome wrote:

Well, I fail to see how, "I personally hated 4e and here was my opinion of it," is starting a "war", since I'm perfectly happy if other people like it (heck, CY likes Sci Fi RPGs, and I'm still willing to talk to HIM). But you're correct in that arguing with other people about which system is "best" is a pointless endeavor.

...

Everyone has their own style. I stand by my statement that we as a family hated 4e so much that we threw it out. If you enjoyed it, more power to you.

And if you had started with this, rather than waiting until after I had called you out, I would have taken it as an honest expression of taste.


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Vanykrye wrote:
I thought Tiger King was also about terrible people doing terrible things.

It is, but they don't get away with it (even the people who didn't go to jail were exposed).


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LordSynos wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So...

Shiro and GothBard showed me how to buy the COVID-19 Humble Bundle, and encouraged me to do so since the money goes to charity. And, looking at a single humble bundle, I was thinking, "There is no way in my lifetime I will ever START all of these games, much less PLAY all of them!"

I dunno; I guess if you look at my old Sega Genesis collection I did collect maybe as many games as are in a single humble bundle, but... holy carp!

I guess as you get older you just find other things that consume your time...

And this is how I wound up with a list of 600-odd games that I have spare Steam keys for. :P Speaking of, if anyone wants to browse the list, it's here. Free games up for grabs!

** spoiler omitted **

The list returns! Huzzah!


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What day is it today?
Sunday? Already?!?!?

I lose track of the days. 'Working' from home (especially when you run an Auditorium that is currently CLOSED) STINKS!
O_o

So,... to date I have chopped down 3 'small' trees in my backyard with a baby electric chainsaw.
Repainted the kids bathroom (Ceiling to baseboards), after patching the hole in the wall caused by them ripping out the old towel hangers, and re-caulked the tub edge. (Because, it was gross!) :P

Also have played much video games, watched TV shows and movies, including getting into some anime here and there.

Yeah,... sometimes I actually DO miss work.

Not when I'm waking up at 9a-10am, but you know, sometimes. :)


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Sharoth wrote:
Meanwhile the Palladium systems are just a homerulled 1st edition AD & D setup.

Palladium Fantasy = AD&Cheese.


baron arem heshvaun wrote:


@Tacticslion can @Freehold DM give me an invite to the Discord?

He has all my contact info and I am rather weaksauce on tech and do not want to trouble you, although he may have missed my message a few pages back.

Don’t mind what follows,

** spoiler omitted **

Hm. Thought I gave him an invite code for you!

But as life happens, I'll send him another link to send you! :D


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Ragadolf wrote:
baby electric chainsaw

Fisher-Price has gotten weird.


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Drejk wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
Woran wrote:
Whooooooooooo, drinking.
oooooooooh, hangover
I wanna get drunk with woran!
I'd rather bake.
I'd rather get baked.
Funny, I thought you might say that.

I mean, I'm predictable. Standup comedy, weed, and RPGs are my trifecta.

Also, this entire month is technically 4/20 folks.

...and me with zero weed money thanks to being laid off. (It seems like it's a crappy thing to whine about, but it really is medical for me. Tala insists I'm a normal human on it. We even had it in the medicine section of our budget before this crisis. But I gotta be all 'responsible' and sober so we can pay rent and utilities.)


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Speaking of standup, at least I'll get to do that again in Florida when this is over. I was offered a (low) paying set of gigs before I left, you know. Wasn't enough to stay, but it was a hell of a milestone!!!!!

Getting paid to mock things i disagree with is just the dream...


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Scintillae wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:
baby electric chainsaw
Fisher-Price has gotten weird.

You haven't been paying attention to toys for the last fifteen years, have you?

I say that as someone that worked at a toy store for five and a half years.

You got your baby chainsaws, your bubble spewing chainsaws, your Nerf chainsaws, your Texas Chainsaw Massacre replica chainsaws, your Lego Chainsaws, trampoline chainsaws, VR chainsaws (no joke, there was a lumberjack VR game we sold), your chainsaw Monopoly, and probably Rick and Morty farting chainsaws.


captain yesterday wrote:

I used to play 1st edition and then 2nd edition.

I hated them both so much that I stopped playing D&D for 17 years or so.

One day while explaining to a friend why I hated D&D he said "They fixed all that in 3rd edition!". So when I happened to come across the 3rd edition Forgotten Realms book at a used bookstore I picked it up and was immediately blown away by it's amazingness.

I was optimistic when 4th edition started coming out, but then they released 4th edition Forgotten Realms and I solemnly vowed that day that I would never, ever, buy a single thing published by Wizards of the Coast ever again.

Fortunately, while looking for a first level adventure (as rare as f@%%ing unicorns in the 3.5 days) a guy at the store suggested Kingmaker, so here I is.

I've looked at 5th edition, enough to see it's pretty much a blatant rip off of Pathfinder Classic, but it will be a cold day in hell before I play it.

We started PF due to finding KM, too! *High five!*


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lisamarlene wrote:
Orthos wrote:

Parents are here. If they're exposed, I've been exposed.

No going back at this point, I suppose. Here goes nothing.

Prayers for good health and an uneventful fortnight of waiting. Yikes.

Praying for you, here, too!

Scarab Sages

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captain yesterday wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
I thought Tiger King was also about terrible people doing terrible things.
It is, but they don't get away with it (even the people who didn't go to jail were exposed).

Still wont be able to watch it. I cant stand violence against animals.

Even pretend violence.

Yes. I cry in movies when the dog dies.

Hell I get sad when I accidentally step on a snail in the garden.

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