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DSXMachina wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:
What are the rules regarding listening to Swedish jazz-rock during quarantine?
The Shining? Or are they Norwegian?

Not heard of them...


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Feros is a national treasure.

... wait, he's not Martin Short, is he?

... I've never actually seen both of them in the same room at the same time...

Hmmmmmmmm...


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February:

Friend during my birthday: Here's Pathfinder 2nd edition core rulebook as a present, but I want you to GM it for me.
Me: Sure, get me a group to GM and I will do it.
Friend: Ok, I start getting people together.

March:

COVID: Buhahahahahahahah! Nope.


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Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
The Emerald Isles are in full lockdown currently, advised not to leave the house unless for essential services. The pubs have all been closed, which should give some indication of how seriously we're taking this. :P The family are all bunkered down in place, and while I am currently under the weather, the symptoms thankfully bear no resemblance to the covid-19 ones. Working from home currently, which isn't really working all that well, but it's better than having to go to the office, or being laid off.

The US is, as per usual, a patchwork of responses. CA where NH lives has been in lockdown for a couple weeks, as has KS where Scint is. Meanwhile GA where Sharoth is only just closed up officially this week and TN where I am is locking down Saturday morning.

Also I don't get to benefit from that as I am considered essential personnel as I work in taxes and finance, and my company doesn't have any method of doing work-from-home as we need access to the physical paperwork of our clients

Add my parents going on a cross-country plane trip just before everything closes down and I fully expect a decent chance of getting the disease next week or so.

You are the only Diablo Shrimp Trainer we have. Please be careful.
I'm trying, but I am incredibly nervous about my parents coming home tomorrow/Sunday after a week abroad with four plane flights involved. Any advice for how to handle this would be greatly appreciated, as I'm at my wits end here.

Flee the state and join Scinth at her place already?

Sorry, that's the only solution I can think of :(

We actually have discussed that. It comes down to the fact that, given the pandemic, it will probably be a bit before i can get a job and thus benefits. And I unfortunately need insurance to afford various medications I need, most notably anti-anxiety and high blood pressure treatments. Meaning if I move early, I run out faster and can't afford to replace them.

I have a Dr appt in may for a final exam and 90-day refill auth, so I unfortunately can't afford - literally - to leave sooner.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
This Monday will mark two weeks since I may or may not have been unofficially exposed. No symptoms thus far.
Then it seems you may have pulled through, or never had it in the first place?
Or is a symptom-less carrier.

VANYKRYE IS PATIENT ZERO?!

LYNCH! LYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYN-

WHAT? WHAAAAAAAAAAAA-


captain yesterday wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
In fact, nearly everything you complain about with Pathfinder Classic is fixed in 2nd edition.

I can't count the number of times I've read a paizo post or elsewhere, where I wanted to reply "4e fixed that, it solves all of your complaints!"

But everyone has their own priorities.

They destroyed the Forgotten Realms for 4th edition.

it was the one thing 4th ed did right!


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Orthos wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
The Emerald Isles are in full lockdown currently, advised not to leave the house unless for essential services. The pubs have all been closed, which should give some indication of how seriously we're taking this. :P The family are all bunkered down in place, and while I am currently under the weather, the symptoms thankfully bear no resemblance to the covid-19 ones. Working from home currently, which isn't really working all that well, but it's better than having to go to the office, or being laid off.

The US is, as per usual, a patchwork of responses. CA where NH lives has been in lockdown for a couple weeks, as has KS where Scint is. Meanwhile GA where Sharoth is only just closed up officially this week and TN where I am is locking down Saturday morning.

Also I don't get to benefit from that as I am considered essential personnel as I work in taxes and finance, and my company doesn't have any method of doing work-from-home as we need access to the physical paperwork of our clients

Add my parents going on a cross-country plane trip just before everything closes down and I fully expect a decent chance of getting the disease next week or so.

You are the only Diablo Shrimp Trainer we have. Please be careful.
I'm trying, but I am incredibly nervous about my parents coming home tomorrow/Sunday after a week abroad with four plane flights involved. Any advice for how to handle this would be greatly appreciated, as I'm at my wits end here.

Flee the state and join Scinth at her place already?

Sorry, that's the only solution I can think of :(

We actually have discussed that. It comes down to the fact that, given the pandemic, it will probably be a bit before i can get a job and thus benefits. And I unfortunately need insurance to afford various medications I need, most notably anti-anxiety and high blood pressure treatments. Meaning if I move early, I run out faster...

Suffice to say I'm stress-eating Pizza Hut in a Pikachu snow hat while binging every showtune I can find on Youtube.


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Darn it! Now I want to bring Scint home and make her snuggle in our giant black couch and tell bad puns and pet our fluffeh kitteh...
...but quarantine!


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Ironically, I would do better in a house with the musical Cats because while it might be traumatizing, I'm not actually allergic to it.

Scarab Sages

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Scintillae wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
The Emerald Isles are in full lockdown currently, advised not to leave the house unless for essential services. The pubs have all been closed, which should give some indication of how seriously we're taking this. :P The family are all bunkered down in place, and while I am currently under the weather, the symptoms thankfully bear no resemblance to the covid-19 ones. Working from home currently, which isn't really working all that well, but it's better than having to go to the office, or being laid off.

The US is, as per usual, a patchwork of responses. CA where NH lives has been in lockdown for a couple weeks, as has KS where Scint is. Meanwhile GA where Sharoth is only just closed up officially this week and TN where I am is locking down Saturday morning.

Also I don't get to benefit from that as I am considered essential personnel as I work in taxes and finance, and my company doesn't have any method of doing work-from-home as we need access to the physical paperwork of our clients

Add my parents going on a cross-country plane trip just before everything closes down and I fully expect a decent chance of getting the disease next week or so.

You are the only Diablo Shrimp Trainer we have. Please be careful.
I'm trying, but I am incredibly nervous about my parents coming home tomorrow/Sunday after a week abroad with four plane flights involved. Any advice for how to handle this would be greatly appreciated, as I'm at my wits end here.

Flee the state and join Scinth at her place already?

Sorry, that's the only solution I can think of :(

We actually have discussed that. It comes down to the fact that, given the pandemic, it will probably be a bit before i can get a job and thus benefits. And I unfortunately need insurance to afford various medications I need, most notably anti-anxiety and high blood pressure treatments. Meaning if I move
...

I devoured a pizza and did half of Mr T's pizza and we're out of chocolate so i ate a bunch of cookies and now I'm going to start on the potato chips.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Just so we're all clear though, Starfinder is the best Finder.

laughs in spelljammer


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Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
cyzzane wrote:

Reply from a conversation TOZ mentioned.

Seriously though if anyone likes mildly spooky stuff, The Magnus Archives podcast is totally great!

Also Re:Zero hurts me. Subaru is so dumb.

NO! THAT'S NOT TRUE!! IT'S IM'POSS'IBLE!!11!!

(It's true, he really is. Like a brick.)

I want to be clear, however - as dumb or cowardly or unpleasant or frustrating as Subaru is - and he really, really, really can be those and other things aside - this is not a knock on the show, nor is it a reason not to watch it.

Point in fact, his failures as a person, his flaws, and his weaknesses are part of his journey: and an important or even fundamental part of it.

More to the point, I couldn't guarantee that I'd not make many of the same mistakes or choices, at least at the relatively same time of my life in which he finds himself in that situation in his, because, frankly, he's a kid on the cusp of manhood ripped from modern sociological contexts and shoved into a freaky fun-house mirror of a world that, topically, seems to be everything he ever wanted, but ultimately refuses to conform to his expectations; it refuses to do so even when it plays on those exact expectations - expectations he's built up over a lifetime of having been conditioned into them by a combination of media (predominately anime/cartoons and video games, but also by various manga/comics, and even some literature).

He is dumb as a brick, yes. He is awkward, immature, and makes a number of very frustrating life choices.

But.

He also holds up a mirror - to you, to me, to many, many people who watch it; it's also an uncomfortable mirror, at times, because you can see yourself reflected in it, even if only in parts.

Would I be Subaru? Make all the same bad choices? Exceptionally unlikely.

Indeed. Subaru is meant to be a very extreme NEET stereotype, where Kazama gets the NEET beaten out of him a lot in the light novel(which, IIRC, gets a bit preachy on the subject; it happens to a much smaller extent in the manga, and in a hilarious musical sequence in the anime), Subaru just had his assumptions and gets them...uh...killed out of him. He also brings a lot of very Japanese stereotypes in addition to those assumptions with him, again, IIRC, and those made some situations worse.

Again this is all only if I am remembering things appropriately, which I may not be.


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NH, this isn't aimed at you, so you can shut it. ;)

Most people, myself included regardless of my recent weight loss, did not get the exercise they needed to on a regular basis to begin with.

What we're not thinking about is how much exercise we actually were getting by going into work every day.

Now we're all working from home and not getting the walking, stairs, etc in that we used to get in our normal routines.

And many of us are stress-eating.

The hidden dangers of forced working from home.

Most of the shelter-in-place orders do not preclude us from getting outside for a walk, provided we keep a minimum safe distance.

Also, for many people, getting outside a bit more often will help our mental well-being.

So let's do our best to mitigate the weight gain and natural depression from staying inside the house too much. Let's get out and take some daily walks.


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Scintillae wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
The Emerald Isles are in full lockdown currently, advised not to leave the house unless for essential services. The pubs have all been closed, which should give some indication of how seriously we're taking this. :P The family are all bunkered down in place, and while I am currently under the weather, the symptoms thankfully bear no resemblance to the covid-19 ones. Working from home currently, which isn't really working all that well, but it's better than having to go to the office, or being laid off.

The US is, as per usual, a patchwork of responses. CA where NH lives has been in lockdown for a couple weeks, as has KS where Scint is. Meanwhile GA where Sharoth is only just closed up officially this week and TN where I am is locking down Saturday morning.

Also I don't get to benefit from that as I am considered essential personnel as I work in taxes and finance, and my company doesn't have any method of doing work-from-home as we need access to the physical paperwork of our clients

Add my parents going on a cross-country plane trip just before everything closes down and I fully expect a decent chance of getting the disease next week or so.

You are the only Diablo Shrimp Trainer we have. Please be careful.
I'm trying, but I am incredibly nervous about my parents coming home tomorrow/Sunday after a week abroad with four plane flights involved. Any advice for how to handle this would be greatly appreciated, as I'm at my wits end here.

Flee the state and join Scinth at her place already?

Sorry, that's the only solution I can think of :(

We actually have discussed that. It comes down to the fact that, given the pandemic, it will probably be a bit before i can get a job and thus benefits. And I unfortunately need insurance to afford various medications I need, most notably anti-anxiety and high blood pressure treatments. Meaning if I move
...

I would send you real pizza if I could.

And real cats.


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Vanykrye wrote:

NH, this isn't aimed at you, so you can shut it. ;)

Most people, myself included regardless of my recent weight loss, did not get the exercise they needed to on a regular basis to begin with.

What we're not thinking about is how much exercise we actually were getting by going into work every day.

Now we're all working from home and not getting the walking, stairs, etc in that we used to get in our normal routines.

And many of us are stress-eating.

The hidden dangers of forced working from home.

Most of the shelter-in-place orders do not preclude us from getting outside for a walk, provided we keep a minimum safe distance.

Also, for many people, getting outside a bit more often will help our mental well-being.

So let's do our best to mitigate the weight gain and natural depression from staying inside the house too much. Let's get out and take some daily walks.

indeed. My gym was one of the first places to close down.


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Orthos wrote:

Re: "PF2/4E Fixed that!"

I think what it comes down to is people don't want to switch to a completely new system to fix a few glitches, they want a patch to the extant mechanism to make it work better and fix the individual problems. Basically, what PF Classic did for 3.5.

Thankfully, it's not too hard to port some of those properties into another system if you know what you're doing.

Yeah, the whole transition to 4e was a really toxic and jading experience for me.

The changes that 3e brought to D&D were dramatic, and a vast improvement from my perspective, and by the time 4e rolled around I was ready for another systemic change. While I love many things about 3e (& 3.5 & PF), there are deep systemic issues that make it a love-hate relationship. So when 4e hit the shelves and I discovered that many fans not only didn't care for it enough to switch, but actively and maliciously attacked it for what to me are petty reasons, I was really jaded by all the hate.

I guess I can relate to just wanting tweaks here and there though, as that's how I feel about classic 4e. The whole 4e retro project and then the sudden reversing of course that 5e embraced has really left a bad taste in my mouth. I haven't bought D&D products since 4e classic or PF products, and I don't know that I ever will, unless the franchise ever takes a consistency-oriented path again.


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Well, our fire alarm(s) just went off*. We were outside in our back yard when it happened, but it stopped just as we vaguely noticed it/came inside so we just shrugged. Then it went off again, then another one started, and they both went off for a few moments, then they just kind of stopped.

Our house is not emitting smoke.
Our AC is not emitting smoke.
Nothing is emitting smoke.

We can't smell anything like smoke. And I'm usually very sensitive (seriously, it's sad - I'll start hacking out a lung for no reason, and then my family will notice someone, like, three cars away who's just lit up or something).

Though my eye is itching now (not typical smoke reaction). Weird.

Maybe our house was worried because I actually started exercising or something. Weird.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

* two of them, to be precise


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Orthos wrote:

Re: "PF2/4E Fixed that!"

I think what it comes down to is people don't want to switch to a completely new system to fix a few glitches, they want a patch to the extant mechanism to make it work better and fix the individual problems. Basically, what PF Classic did for 3.5.

Thankfully, it's not too hard to port some of those properties into another system if you know what you're doing.

Yeah, the whole transition to 4e was a really toxic and jading experience for me.

The changes that 3e brought to D&D were dramatic, and a vast improvement from my perspective, and by the time 4e rolled around I was ready for another systemic change. While I love many things about 3e (& 3.5 & PF), there are deep systemic issues that make it a love-hate relationship. So when 4e hit the shelves and I discovered that many fans not only didn't care for it enough to switch, but actively and maliciously attacked it for what to me are petty reasons, I was really jaded by all the hate.

I guess I can relate to just wanting tweaks here and there though, as that's how I feel about classic 4e. The whole 4e retro project and then the sudden reversing of course that 5e embraced has really left a bad taste in my mouth. I haven't bought D&D products since 4e classic or PF products, and I don't know that I ever will, unless the franchise ever takes a consistency-oriented path again.

3.5/3e did a really good job with the Forgotten Realms, which I think made the contrast more jarring.

I still thought it was a shame that they deep-sixed Greyhawk, but that's probably just me...

Scarab Sages

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Whooooooooooo, drinking.


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Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
The Emerald Isles are in full lockdown currently, advised not to leave the house unless for essential services. The pubs have all been closed, which should give some indication of how seriously we're taking this. :P The family are all bunkered down in place, and while I am currently under the weather, the symptoms thankfully bear no resemblance to the covid-19 ones. Working from home currently, which isn't really working all that well, but it's better than having to go to the office, or being laid off.

The US is, as per usual, a patchwork of responses. CA where NH lives has been in lockdown for a couple weeks, as has KS where Scint is. Meanwhile GA where Sharoth is only just closed up officially this week and TN where I am is locking down Saturday morning.

Also I don't get to benefit from that as I am considered essential personnel as I work in taxes and finance, and my company doesn't have any method of doing work-from-home as we need access to the physical paperwork of our clients

Add my parents going on a cross-country plane trip just before everything closes down and I fully expect a decent chance of getting the disease next week or so.

You are the only Diablo Shrimp Trainer we have. Please be careful.
I'm trying, but I am incredibly nervous about my parents coming home tomorrow/Sunday after a week abroad with four plane flights involved. Any advice for how to handle this would be greatly appreciated, as I'm at my wits end here.

Some friends in Berkeley have a son who *was* in his senior year at Vassar in New York. When they closed the campus and sent him home, he took his shoes off and left them outside the front door, carried his suitcase straight through to his bedroom (he has his own connected bathroom) and closed the door, and has been quarantined in the room since then. They leave him his food and drink in disposable containers outside his bedroom door. He texts them what he needs and they respond. After the two week period has passed, they will hug and greet each other as if he has just arrived. Since they adopted him when they were older (although he was an infant), one parent has already retired and the other is only a year or two away. Not spring chickens.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Orthos wrote:

Re: "PF2/4E Fixed that!"

I think what it comes down to is people don't want to switch to a completely new system to fix a few glitches, they want a patch to the extant mechanism to make it work better and fix the individual problems. Basically, what PF Classic did for 3.5.

Thankfully, it's not too hard to port some of those properties into another system if you know what you're doing.

Yeah, the whole transition to 4e was a really toxic and jading experience for me.

The changes that 3e brought to D&D were dramatic, and a vast improvement from my perspective, and by the time 4e rolled around I was ready for another systemic change. While I love many things about 3e (& 3.5 & PF), there are deep systemic issues that make it a love-hate relationship. So when 4e hit the shelves and I discovered that many fans not only didn't care for it enough to switch, but actively and maliciously attacked it for what to me are petty reasons, I was really jaded by all the hate.

I guess I can relate to just wanting tweaks here and there though, as that's how I feel about classic 4e. The whole 4e retro project and then the sudden reversing of course that 5e embraced has really left a bad taste in my mouth. I haven't bought D&D products since 4e classic or PF products, and I don't know that I ever will, unless the franchise ever takes a consistency-oriented path again.

Why do I do this:
For me, I liked a lot of the ideas of 4e, but there were several deep-seated changes to very basic assumptions about the game worlds people had become attached to that WotC really didn't feel it was necessary to help people (i.e. their customers) to grapple with, and I was burned by the general response from Wizards itself as a company (or at least the people representing it to others) toward their fans (and, in my case, to me, in specific).

Aaaaaaaaaalso, (NOTE: total hear-say, not actual experience:) I've been told they were both dismissive and mocking of their fans in some videos published online in ways that did not gain good traction, and, though I never saw those myself (that I remember), I understand it developed quite a significant amount of public backlash.

This very bad public mishandling of interpersonal relationships combined with:

- 1) a product that wasn't as ready or polished on time as it should have been (this is a statement backed by historical record from the people doing the development; that said, this was hardly WotC's fault: there were a looooot of things that went badly for them in this)

- 2) several products that were promised but never delivered (again, not WotC's fault; this ties into a lot of the behind-the-scenes things at the time)

- 3) the change from free basic rules with an OGL to a much more restrictive license system (not inherently a bad move, but always going to be problematic when people lose "free" for "pay even more")

- 4) the very bad press they received from dropping Paizo and taking the magazines they'd purchased off-market (this was limited, but it led to a rather significant alternative - similarly the limit of magazines to an online-exclusive format was not ideal for people who had limited internet connectivity, like I did - and still do, at times)

In addition to this, they made the sorts of sweeping changes that in system alteration (but in a different spirit) from 3e to 4e. Now, to be clear, this isn't wrong. Point in fact, I think they did a number of things quite well.

But. The combination of somewhat toxic public image, failures of intended and/or expected product, more restrictive legal elements, and other bad publicity was a potent combination.

You may (or may not) have noticed, but there are a huge number of people who, to this day, declare that 3e was not D&D because, "it changed too much." These people either didn't like the changes, or felt that it altered the spirit of the game into something fundamentally unwelcome - a very similar complaint to how many 3e fans felt about 4e.

The difference was the twofold:

- Scope: At the time of change from 2-to-3, D&D had been going through the Satanic Panic and, while not exactly on the rocks, was not at its highest point (and was in deep financial difficulty due to tremendous mismanagement on the part of TSR); when 3e came along, then, it brought in such a massive influx of new fans that they massively outnumbered the angered 2e fans during the similar times of change (and this time, the 2e fans were also still complaining about the 3e changes and... now 4e changes, too, which felt like a further distancing from their previous ideals).

- Platform: At the time of change from 2-to-3, the world was being introduced to this radical new thing called "the Internet." It had been around - for a while, actually! - and was already at the point where webcomics were becoming an actual profession/side job, where sharing sites were opening people to new revenues of information like never before, and where communities of every stripe could gather and talk about things. WotC had actually greatly benefited from exactly that sort of thing during the 3era, and by building it up significantly, they'd created a powerful and large community. Who was still on their site. Who was not happy. And when people went to find them to complain about anything, they found other people who were on WotC's own site who weren't happy with things, and WotC was handling interactions with those people who weren't happy very poorly. This created a huge echo-chamber where people who were frustrated and bitter could help each other cope, but also find ever-more-reasons to be frustrated and bitter, and also was in WotC's own back yard.

This was... not a pretty combination, to say the least.

In WotC's defense, including their various representatives and folks who were supposed to be in public interface (yes, even those who treated me rudely), whoever they were, I'll say this - a time of massive change and upheaval is very stressful, very difficult, and very frustrating even in the best of times, and changing an entire highly-liked and well-respected system into something totally different was exactly that kind of difficult upheaval. Never mind the fact that your bosses weren't exactly your bosses anymore. Well, some of them. But there were more, now, and the new ones were less understanding or generous - much more demanding, almost like a completely different company.

And, of course, if you learn about the background of things happening then, this was not the best of times for many people involved with the project, and that kind of stress can definitively seep out and make any sort of work environment more difficult.

And then, and then, of course. Then you have all these nerds I don't know if you've noticed, but most all of us are nerds, here coming in and more-or-less just expecting you'd agree with or have sympathy for all their personal problems and frustrations with the product you've spent so daggum long working on, perfecting, and trying to get just right and, maybe, just maybe, you're (very reasonably) at least a little bit proud of all the work you've done and were feeling good about having overcome trials and difficulties, hammered out little bugs and inconsistencies into working order, handled several major crises quietly and with relative grace, and they just... thrust all their bad feelings at you. This... does not make for a pleasant... anything, really.

And I'm not going to sugar coat it: a lot of people had really stupid reasons to be upset. I was probably one of those. I don't know, it's hard to remember anymore, it's been a decade and I kinda have more important things to think about, now (like Gravity Falls and when I'm next ordering pizza).

In such an instance, it is normal, even natural, to snap, bark, or otherwise act in a reasonably stressed-out manner. People absolutely need to blow off steam and cool down, maybe laugh at things that are unreasonable, and just... calm down. But sometimes life and combinations of pressures just doesn't allow for that. Maybe they lash out (even unintentionally); or maybe something they intended to be funny was instead received very poory or their actions came across colder than intended, or appeared accidentally rude. Plus different social expectations mean one person's "horrendously rude" is another's "surprisingly polite/professional." is another's "that's hilarious."

The problem, of course, is when your current crop of customers are so jaded and angered by all of these things that it creates a critical mass of backlash.

And this rather potent combination was awaiting just about anyone who came into 4e with fresh and open eyes filled with excitement at the awesome. Bad, bad, bad, badness ensues.

It is worth noting that 4e isn't a bad game. There are lots of elements that aren't my cuppa. Things I didn't like. That's okay. There are things in PF I don't like. Things in 3e and 3.5 I don't like. Things in 2e I don't like. Things in Clue I don't like. Things in Solitaire I don't like. Chess, too, while we're at it. And what about those crappy rules in Checkers? And Monopol- no, yeah, pretty sure Monopoly is the perfect game, 10/10, would make legal mandate to own. heh

The point is, there are games that have flaws and that's... all of them. But they can still be good games.

I always wanted... more, I guess, from 4e. But, for me, I found the battles sloggy and frustrating, the skill systems brilliant but frustration to manage, and just so many rules so frustrating to deal with. Also, I will never - NEVER - be okay with the fact that we didn't get a NWN-like translation of 4e. DAGGUMMIT, ATARI, WOTC, AND WHOEVER ELSE HELD THOSE DAGGUM RIGHTS, WILL YOU JUST SHUT UP AND WORK TOGETHER TO TAKE MY FLIPPIN' MONEY I NEED THIS IN MY LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE.

>:(

Wait, uh, what were we talking about?

Oh, yeah, everyone who disagrees with me sucks and I hate everything. opinions are cool, and I like people who have them, whether or not they share the same one.

But Final Fantasy Tactics is the best, and I sw-GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY, HEART YUUUUU

Grand Lodge

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Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

Guess who just got accepted to the clinical psychology doctorate program at NAU?

Spoiler:
It's not me.


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Vanykrye wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Woran wrote:

Oh damn. I can feel the beginnings of a sore throat...

*anxiety goes trough roof*

My anxiety is high right now. The last two weeks I've had to work in close proximity to a bunch of people that I don't necessarily trust. In some cases I don't even trust them with string.

I'm almost certain that I've been exposed. I'm almost certain that over half the on-site IT teams have been exposed. I'm at least working from home starting today, but in the last two-three weeks...

Yeah, I'm a little more than concerned right now.

I just found out that I was exposed to an unconfirmed case. They came in on Monday. I had to work directly with them. The doctor isn't testing the person, but told them "assume you have it and stay in home quarantine for two weeks." So now I have to wait to see if symptoms occur.

And now I'm completely and irrevocably pissed off.

I just got off the phone with our office HR person. That uncomfirmed case...was complete and total b#@#&$+~. She was never actually seen by a doctor. She told the HR person that she reported herself as probably having COVID-19 just to see how the HR person would handle it because she has a personal grudge against that specific HR person. I want her fired. There is no situation in the world where this is acceptable behavior.

And, of course, she still doesn't even know if she has it or not.

I want her fired from society. She can shelter-in-place inside a jail cell for a year.


TriOmegaZero wrote:

Guess who just got accepted to the clinical psychology doctorate program at NAU?

** spoiler omitted **

Wait, it's me? I didn't even remember replying!

- ooooooooooooooooohhhh, that's why they want me! Makes sense now.

(But for real, congratulations! That's exciting!)


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Sooooooo... 4e...

I did not touch anything D&D related from 1979-2011, so I think it's fair to say I had no biases whatsoever coming in to Games of Berkeley and asking for "the latest version of Dungeons and Dragons".

We ignored the salesperson's advice and bought D&D 4e instead of Pathfinder. We tried to play it. It was... awful...

It truly lived up to its description as, "A low-end RPG video game done on paper."
The whole, "Daily abilities/encounter abilities/at-will abilities" structure of combat meant that you never just "swung a sword". You always "clicked a button" to do something "special".

My kids were 7 and 10 when we started, and even they found 4e's rules to be too "childish". I bought Pathfinder, we threw 4e in the trash, and I've never regretted that decision.


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Vanykrye wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Woran wrote:

Oh damn. I can feel the beginnings of a sore throat...

*anxiety goes trough roof*

My anxiety is high right now. The last two weeks I've had to work in close proximity to a bunch of people that I don't necessarily trust. In some cases I don't even trust them with string.

I'm almost certain that I've been exposed. I'm almost certain that over half the on-site IT teams have been exposed. I'm at least working from home starting today, but in the last two-three weeks...

Yeah, I'm a little more than concerned right now.

I just found out that I was exposed to an unconfirmed case. They came in on Monday. I had to work directly with them. The doctor isn't testing the person, but told them "assume you have it and stay in home quarantine for two weeks." So now I have to wait to see if symptoms occur.

And now I'm completely and irrevocably pissed off.

I just got off the phone with our office HR person. That uncomfirmed case...was complete and total b&%%#*#+. She was never actually seen by a doctor. She told the HR person that she reported herself as probably having COVID-19 just to see how the HR person would handle it because she has a personal grudge against that specific HR person. I want her fired. There is no situation in the world where this is acceptable behavior.

And, of course, she still doesn't even know if she has it or not.

I want her fired from society. She can shelter-in-place inside a jail cell for a year.

Request to personally handle all of her tickets. Document resolving them. When she asks, tell her it's the COVID-19 procedure; she should be familiar.


Limeylongears wrote:

3.5/3e did a really good job with the Forgotten Realms, which I think made the contrast more jarring.

I still thought it was a shame that they deep-sixed Greyhawk, but that's probably just me...

Agreed on both accounts, actually.

For the FR issue, it's more a matter of a really weird handling of a general mandate of being similar to the Core setting... sort of. As an example (because it's big and clear), with the deities they went, "let's play match the pantheon and general setting conce~its - but wait, not really, J/K~! (except where we're not J/K, suck it)." Over-all, this lead to a really weird "feel" to... pretty much everywhere. (And they also explicitly and repeatedly reversed canon in a very canon-specific setting... though they'd done that before, so.) None of the changes in specific to the setting were actually bad, conceptually. In practice, however, the aggregate made it feel like an entirely different setting in many cases, and left many really uncertain what FR was supposed to be.

As for FR, I not sure if like the fact that it's the presumed-default setting. It's not inherently bad, but it harms the ability of other settings to flourish, though, according to what I've heard from Paizo people, that might be better over-all, financially.

As for Greyhawk, if I had to guess, they just vanished it because they didn't want to alter the House that Gygax Built to such an extreme, and they couldn't figure a way to hammer ye square peg to ye round hole without it feeling disrespectful. (But FR made enough money - and had changed before enough - that it didn't matter if that did.) I think, in some ways, its a deep shame that the setting still hasn't gotten its due, but there really wasn't as much demand for it as others, so I doubt it'll ever quite get the dusting it deserves.


NobodysHome wrote:
memories of editions

This guy doesn't disagree with your memories... and he actually liked it enough to make a career out of talking about the game!

(He has mostly switched to 5e, though.)


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<Aged Wizard enters thread. Looks and sees there are a page and a half of posts. Leaves room to go get a drink. Returns. Thre are now THREE pages of posts.>

?!?,.....!?!,....

<Aged Wizard drinks his drink. Posts a 'Stay Well' message, and gives up. Leaves the thread, leaves the room. Goes back and finishes painting the kids bathroom.>

"Stay Well Everyone!" :)


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Vanykrye wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Woran wrote:

Oh damn. I can feel the beginnings of a sore throat...

*anxiety goes trough roof*

My anxiety is high right now. The last two weeks I've had to work in close proximity to a bunch of people that I don't necessarily trust. In some cases I don't even trust them with string.

I'm almost certain that I've been exposed. I'm almost certain that over half the on-site IT teams have been exposed. I'm at least working from home starting today, but in the last two-three weeks...

Yeah, I'm a little more than concerned right now.

I just found out that I was exposed to an unconfirmed case. They came in on Monday. I had to work directly with them. The doctor isn't testing the person, but told them "assume you have it and stay in home quarantine for two weeks." So now I have to wait to see if symptoms occur.

And now I'm completely and irrevocably pissed off.

I just got off the phone with our office HR person. That uncomfirmed case...was complete and total b#%*!#+@. She was never actually seen by a doctor. She told the HR person that she reported herself as probably having COVID-19 just to see how the HR person would handle it because she has a personal grudge against that specific HR person. I want her fired. There is no situation in the world where this is acceptable behavior.

And, of course, she still doesn't even know if she has it or not.

I want her fired from society. She can shelter-in-place inside a jail cell for a year.

...what....the F%$!?

sets black manliness to Brooklyn

Where she at.


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The thing that's surprising me the most about the lockdown is the sheer number of personal cars still on the streets. Sure, the Amazon delivery vehicles and FedEd, UPS, and USPS trucks are all expected.

But I think since the lockdown started on March 17 we've driven the car exactly three times: Once to pick up takeout from Rivoli, and twice for Andronico's runs. That's 3 trips in 18 days. Yet everywhere I walk (sorry, Vanykrye, yes, I still do walk everywhere), there's a constant flow of personal vehicle traffic, probably even more than before the lockdown.

And I wonder: Where are all these people going, and is it really so gosh-darned important that they go there?

(I'd totally understand mealtime rushes on lunch places, but this is at 2 or 3 in the afternoon when little else is happening.)


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Scintillae wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Woran wrote:

Oh damn. I can feel the beginnings of a sore throat...

*anxiety goes trough roof*

My anxiety is high right now. The last two weeks I've had to work in close proximity to a bunch of people that I don't necessarily trust. In some cases I don't even trust them with string.

I'm almost certain that I've been exposed. I'm almost certain that over half the on-site IT teams have been exposed. I'm at least working from home starting today, but in the last two-three weeks...

Yeah, I'm a little more than concerned right now.

I just found out that I was exposed to an unconfirmed case. They came in on Monday. I had to work directly with them. The doctor isn't testing the person, but told them "assume you have it and stay in home quarantine for two weeks." So now I have to wait to see if symptoms occur.

And now I'm completely and irrevocably pissed off.

I just got off the phone with our office HR person. That uncomfirmed case...was complete and total b&%%#*#+. She was never actually seen by a doctor. She told the HR person that she reported herself as probably having COVID-19 just to see how the HR person would handle it because she has a personal grudge against that specific HR person. I want her fired. There is no situation in the world where this is acceptable behavior.

And, of course, she still doesn't even know if she has it or not.

I want her fired from society. She can shelter-in-place inside a jail cell for a year.

Request to personally handle all of her tickets. Document resolving them. When she asks, tell her it's the COVID-19 procedure; she should be familiar.

this woman should be turned over to Scint for Reeducation.


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Limeylongears wrote:

3.5/3e did a really good job with the Forgotten Realms, which I think made the contrast more jarring.

I still thought it was a shame that they deep-sixed Greyhawk, but that's probably just me...

Perhaps sadly, I have virtually zero exposure to GH, so I've always thought of it as the first generic D&D setting, which by whatever twist of fate has been replaced by another generic setting -- FR.

This is probably not accurate, but it's become my GH frame.


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captain yesterday wrote:

I had a shot of tequila, once.

Never again.

You quitter. It's a marathon, not a sprint.


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Freehold DM wrote:

Just...grr. Feel like a heel.

{mentally casts Freehold in "Kinky Boots" on Broadway}

[A BIT LATER...]

Freehold DM wrote:
I may have to shave myself.

It's like he's psychic.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:

3.5/3e did a really good job with the Forgotten Realms, which I think made the contrast more jarring.

I still thought it was a shame that they deep-sixed Greyhawk, but that's probably just me...

Perhaps sadly, I have virtually zero exposure to GH, so I've always thought of it as the first generic D&D setting, which by whatever twist of fate has been replaced by another other generic setting -- FR.

This is probably not accurate, but it's become my GH frame.

GH has has both extremely expansive and quirky lore and many tropes that have become quite popular. Steam Punk might not be GH, exactly, but the city of Greyhawk for which the setting is named is know for hosting such tunnels. One famous mage made a robot horse for his loyal fighter buddy. There was a famous adventure where after going up “the weird tower with scaffolding”, the PCs might get launched into space. There’s a famous exploration of a forgotten temple to a human frog god of racial superiority.

So a lot of unique things and quirky elements borne from a home brew campaign setting where everything is canon.


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NobodysHome wrote:

The thing that's surprising me the most about the lockdown is the sheer number of personal cars still on the streets. Sure, the Amazon delivery vehicles and FedEd, UPS, and USPS trucks are all expected.

But I think since the lockdown started on March 17 we've driven the car exactly three times: Once to pick up takeout from Rivoli, and twice for Andronico's runs. That's 3 trips in 18 days. Yet everywhere I walk (sorry, Vanykrye, yes, I still do walk everywhere), there's a constant flow of personal vehicle traffic, probably even more than before the lockdown.

And I wonder: Where are all these people going, and is it really so gosh-darned important that they go there?

(I'd totally understand mealtime rushes on lunch places, but this is at 2 or 3 in the afternoon when little else is happening.)

Hey, you live in an area with places to walk to. I don't, unless you count a gas station convenience store.


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{drives up in suspicious dingy van} Hey FaWtLies, stuck at home and need something to keep you busy/distracted?

>_>

<_<

Wanna free game?


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Oh and while me and mine are not there yet, I did discover that coffee filters make for passable toilet paper. (So long as you trash rather than flush them, oc.) Just an idea for y'all.

{makes URGENT mental note never to have coffee at TS's house}


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Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

The thing that's surprising me the most about the lockdown is the sheer number of personal cars still on the streets. Sure, the Amazon delivery vehicles and FedEd, UPS, and USPS trucks are all expected.

But I think since the lockdown started on March 17 we've driven the car exactly three times: Once to pick up takeout from Rivoli, and twice for Andronico's runs. That's 3 trips in 18 days. Yet everywhere I walk (sorry, Vanykrye, yes, I still do walk everywhere), there's a constant flow of personal vehicle traffic, probably even more than before the lockdown.

And I wonder: Where are all these people going, and is it really so gosh-darned important that they go there?

(I'd totally understand mealtime rushes on lunch places, but this is at 2 or 3 in the afternoon when little else is happening.)

Hey, you live in an area with places to walk to. I don't, unless you count a gas station convenience store.

LOL. No; that's kind of the point. I'm encouraging people to walk nowhere. I've managed to get my store runs down to once a week, so now we're just walking.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:

3.5/3e did a really good job with the Forgotten Realms, which I think made the contrast more jarring.

I still thought it was a shame that they deep-sixed Greyhawk, but that's probably just me...

Perhaps sadly, I have virtually zero exposure to GH, so I've always thought of it as the first generic D&D setting, which by whatever twist of fate has been replaced by another other generic setting -- FR.

This is probably not accurate, but it's become my GH frame.

GH has has both extremely expansive and quirky lore and many tropes that have become quite popular. Steam Punk might not be GH, exactly, but the city of Greyhawk for which the setting is named is know for hosting such tunnels. One famous mage made a robot horse for his loyal fighter buddy. There was a famous adventure where after going up “the weird tower with scaffolding”, the PCs might get launched into space. There’s a famous exploration of a forgotten temple to a human frog god of racial superiority.

So a lot of unique things and quirky elements borne from a home brew campaign setting where everything is canon.

Wastri.

Blackmoor.

Go nuts!


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

{drives up in suspicious dingy van} Hey FaWtLies, stuck at home and need something to keep you busy/distracted?

>_>

<_<

Wanna free game?

It's the MystrSlaad Machine!

Adventure awaits!


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NobodysHome wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:


Hey, you live in an area with places to walk to. I don't, unless you count a gas station convenience store.

LOL. No; that's kind of the point. I'm encouraging people to walk nowhere. I've managed to get my store runs down to once a week, so now we're just walking.

Ah, I misunderstood you. I'm intending on just going out and walking up/down our main road. Every street that branches off our main road is a dead end, so it's just going to be walk as far as I feel I can still get back home without issue. Push myself a little further every week.


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Orthos wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
The Emerald Isles are in full lockdown currently, advised not to leave the house unless for essential services. The pubs have all been closed, which should give some indication of how seriously we're taking this. :P The family are all bunkered down in place, and while I am currently under the weather, the symptoms thankfully bear no resemblance to the covid-19 ones. Working from home currently, which isn't really working all that well, but it's better than having to go to the office, or being laid off.

The US is, as per usual, a patchwork of responses. CA where NH lives has been in lockdown for a couple weeks, as has KS where Scint is. Meanwhile GA where Sharoth is only just closed up officially this week and TN where I am is locking down Saturday morning.

Also I don't get to benefit from that as I am considered essential personnel as I work in taxes and finance, and my company doesn't have any method of doing work-from-home as we need access to the physical paperwork of our clients

Add my parents going on a cross-country plane trip just before everything closes down and I fully expect a decent chance of getting the disease next week or so.

You are the only Diablo Shrimp Trainer we have. Please be careful.
I'm trying, but I am incredibly nervous about my parents coming home tomorrow/Sunday after a week abroad with four plane flights involved. Any advice for how to handle this would be greatly appreciated, as I'm at my wits end here.

Flee the state and join Scinth at her place already?

Sorry, that's the only solution I can think of :(

We actually have discussed that. It comes down to the fact that, given the pandemic, it will probably be a bit before i can get a job and thus benefits. And I unfortunately need insurance to afford various medications I need, most notably anti-anxiety and high blood pressure treatments. Meaning if I move early, I run out faster...

If you're poor long enough, there's always Medicaid. I actually get much, much, MUCH better medical treatment as "dirt poor" than I did as "working class poor"


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4e is hot garbage, but I like 5e...but I can't play it. It's SO similar to Pathfinder, it just makes me want to play Pathfinder.

Let's be real, we all know 5e is just Diet PF1E with a twist of lime.


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5e is a great game for brand new players. Once they get the basics down, they can graduate up to PF Classic.


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About to go home. Have a good weekend, everyone.


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How do you get a computer drunk? Have it take screen shots.


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What's the only kind of jokes allowed during quarantine? Inside jokes.


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Why were people surprised when the fruit flies got married? They'd only been on rotten dates.

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