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How do I know that BotW is overly immersive (for me)?

I'm watching Tremors 2, when,

Spoiler:
The walking graboids are climbing the thingy the three are on

when I can't help but think that the poor jerks should just glide down from the top floor to safety, then do stamina cycling to climb the local hills faster than the monsters can get them.

All totally logical actions for people to take.

>.>

EDIT: I mean, armor is optional, of course, but I prefer it.

*Clothes equipped*


Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
STOP HOGGING ALL THE SNOW
Just thought you'd like to know it's snowing in Breath of the Wild, like, right now. During a lightning storm. It's beautiful, really.
THUNDERSNOOOOOOOOOW

It really is a breathtaking game! :D


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Oh, no, don't remind me BotW exists right now. I have so many things I need to get done...


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Tacticslion wrote:

I'd love to hear more about both of those.

What is your take?

the situation was a social encounter with an intelligent monster that enjoyed the trappings of discourse, although it definitely planned to kill and eat the party after palavering. Everyone failed their save except for the monk, who was initially suspicious, but had no evidence of spellcasting as the creature used a spell like ability as opposed to outright casting. The monk attacked once they felt the magic, and assumed their friends shook it off too, but was horrified to discover they were wrong. Thank to the work of Byers, I ruled Charm Person akin to the old school Friends spell as opposed to making them robotically/fanatically loyal to the caster which is sometimes implied in other works, and ruled the monk up and smacked an old friend of the party- to their eyes it was like good friends starting a fight at a party. Instantly the party upbraided the monk for attacking their host, with the most bombastic party member instantly becoming the meekest and confused, strongly implying the monk was drunk on strongwine. The most social character attempted to smooth things over but was outraged at the monks unexplained behavior, with excellent roleplaying, apologizing and yelling simultaneously. But it was the party's lone evil character who took the most direct and in-character action, spilling his wine as he stomped over to the monk, casting teleport to move him and the monk a considerable distance away, and directly telling the monk that he needed to cool off- immediately.


Neat! Sounds fun!

That's a pretty good interpretation.


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Looking at a blood cell covered in blood.

I just. What.

Oh, anime.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
STOP HOGGING ALL THE SNOW
Just thought you'd like to know it's snowing in Breath of the Wild, like, right now. During a lightning storm. It's beautiful, really.

Hey, Freehold, here's a science show all about snow!

heheh, I rigged it!

SCIENCE!


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Tacticslion wrote:

Looking at a blood cell covered in blood.

I just. What.

Oh, anime.

And it's adorable. Oh no.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

I'd love to hear more about both of those.

What is your take?

the situation was a social encounter with an intelligent monster that enjoyed the trappings of discourse, although it definitely planned to kill and eat the party after palavering. Everyone failed their save except for the monk, who was initially suspicious, but had no evidence of spellcasting as the creature used a spell like ability as opposed to outright casting. The monk attacked once they felt the magic, and assumed their friends shook it off too, but was horrified to discover they were wrong. Thank to the work of Byers, I ruled Charm Person akin to the old school Friends spell as opposed to making them robotically/fanatically loyal to the caster which is sometimes implied in other works, and ruled the monk up and smacked an old friend of the party- to their eyes it was like good friends starting a fight at a party. Instantly the party upbraided the monk for attacking their host, with the most bombastic party member instantly becoming the meekest and confused, strongly implying the monk was drunk on strongwine. The most social character attempted to smooth things over but was outraged at the monks unexplained behavior, with excellent roleplaying, apologizing and yelling simultaneously. But it was the party's lone evil character who took the most direct and in-character action, spilling his wine as he stomped over to the monk, casting teleport to move him and the monk a considerable distance away, and directly telling the monk that he needed to cool off- immediately.

Yeah, the sheer number of authors/players who treat Charm Person as the end-all, be-all, "I now own you!" is downright depressing.

Your group sounds like they handled it magnificently, as the spell is intended rather than how so many groups try to play it.

"I cast Charm Person, then I tell him that I'd be happy to hold on to his valuables while he goes into the dungeon and fights," is totally reasonable.

"I cast Charm Person and make him strip down to his loincloth and stand in the middle of the road for the duration of the spell while I run off with all his gear," isn't.

EDIT: The worst case I ever saw was:
Party Member: Hey, wizard! You just got Charmed! Quick, cast Dispel Magic on yourself to get rid of it!"
Player: OK. That sounds like something I'd believe and do.
GM: No, it's not. You're Charmed. You're not allowed to do that.


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Hey, so compy-smart folks.

You know everything, and thus I can hold you personally responsible for anything.

So: I made a document and formatted it and all that jazz.

... but then I emailed it and the recipient was able to read it. So far so good.

But! All the page numbers were wrong.

That is, things that appeared on one page when it was on my computer appeared on a completely different one when viewed through the email.

For the record, the programs used:
- Word (which is where I formatted it)
- hotmail
- whatever iPads use to read Word documents

My question is two-fold:

1) why is it going wrong? this is primarily because of curiosity

2a) is there anything I can do to fix it?
2b) if so, what do you think?

Soon your wizardy secrets shall all be mine~! NYAHAHAH!
(Please; if you know.)


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Tacticslion wrote:

Hey, so compy-smart folks.

You know everything, and thus I can hold you personally responsible for anything.

So: I made a document and formatted it and all that jazz.

... but then I emailed it and the recipient was able to read it. So far so good.

But! All the page numbers were wrong.

That is, things that appeared on one page when it was on my computer appeared on a completely different one when viewed through the email.

For the record, the programs used:
- Word (which is where I formatted it)
- hotmail
- whatever iPads use to read Word documents

My question is two-fold:

1) why is it going wrong? this is primarily because of curiosity

2a) is there anything I can do to fix it?
2b) if so, what do you think?

Soon your wizardy secrets shall all be mine~! NYAHAHAH!
(Please; if you know.)

LOL. Ha! Good luck with that!

My guess is that the iPad is using its screen size as the page size instead of a standard 8.5"x11" sheet, since iPads aren't typically hooked to printers. Vanykrye or Woran would be better resources, though.


Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

Looking at a blood cell covered in blood.

I just. What.

Oh, anime.

And it's adorable. Oh no.

It also makes for a really good interpretation of a fantasy world. Heh.

Oh, anime.


NobodysHome wrote:

Yeah, the sheer number of authors/players who treat Charm Person as the end-all, be-all, "I now own you!" is downright depressing.

Your group sounds like they handled it magnificently, as the spell is intended rather than how so many groups try to play it.

"I cast Charm Person, then I tell him that I'd be happy to hold on to his valuables while he goes into the dungeon and fights," is totally reasonable.

Yeah, I agree, though even that might be a little much as-

NobodysHome wrote:
"I cast Charm Person and make him strip down to his loincloth and stand in the middle of the road for the duration of the spell while I run off with all his gear," isn't.

Hello, Officer? I've been attacked in my own home!

I mean, it was charm mixed with a suggestion, instead, but still! XD


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Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

I'd love to hear more about both of those.

What is your take?

the situation was a social encounter with an intelligent monster that enjoyed the trappings of discourse, although it definitely planned to kill and eat the party after palavering. Everyone failed their save except for the monk, who was initially suspicious, but had no evidence of spellcasting as the creature used a spell like ability as opposed to outright casting. The monk attacked once they felt the magic, and assumed their friends shook it off too, but was horrified to discover they were wrong. Thank to the work of Byers, I ruled Charm Person akin to the old school Friends spell as opposed to making them robotically/fanatically loyal to the caster which is sometimes implied in other works, and ruled the monk up and smacked an old friend of the party- to their eyes it was like good friends starting a fight at a party. Instantly the party upbraided the monk for attacking their host, with the most bombastic party member instantly becoming the meekest and confused, strongly implying the monk was drunk on strongwine. The most social character attempted to smooth things over but was outraged at the monks unexplained behavior, with excellent roleplaying, apologizing and yelling simultaneously. But it was the party's lone evil character who took the most direct and in-character action, spilling his wine as he stomped over to the monk, casting teleport to move him and the monk a considerable distance away, and directly telling the monk that he needed to cool off- immediately.

Thinking about it more, it's an impressive amount of RP.

Like, the fact that your players all did this together is really impressive.

EDIT: I think the conflict resolution is the best part. Just, like, the evil character handling things in a manner both in keeping with alignment, and not just flipping to the other team's side. Nice.


NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

Hey, so compy-smart folks.

You know everything, and thus I can hold you personally responsible for anything.

So: I made a document and formatted it and all that jazz.

... but then I emailed it and the recipient was able to read it. So far so good.

But! All the page numbers were wrong.

That is, things that appeared on one page when it was on my computer appeared on a completely different one when viewed through the email.

For the record, the programs used:
- Word (which is where I formatted it)
- hotmail
- whatever iPads use to read Word documents

My question is two-fold:

1) why is it going wrong? this is primarily because of curiosity

2a) is there anything I can do to fix it?
2b) if so, what do you think?

Soon your wizardy secrets shall all be mine~! NYAHAHAH!
(Please; if you know.)

LOL. Ha! Good luck with that!

My guess is that the iPad is using its screen size as the page size instead of a standard 8.5"x11" sheet, since iPads aren't typically hooked to printers. Vanykrye or Woran would be better resources, though.

Noooooooooo

wizardry has failed me

but how can this be

they are tier 5

failed min-max nuuuu


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If the reader doesn't need to edit the document, I'd say convert it to a PDF and send it to them as that.


Andostre wrote:
If the reader doesn't need to edit the document, I'd say convert it to a PDF and send it to them as that.

Hahah! That sounds suuuuuuper easy!

... I, uh... I know how to do that. Yeah.

But. Um. But, uh, you know. For, um. For those people that. Ah. That, don't - you know... know. Perhaps you should explain it.

... for those people.

it's me


Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

Looking at a blood cell covered in blood.

I just. What.

Oh, anime.

And it's adorable. Oh no.

It also makes for a really good interpretation of a fantasy world. Heh.

Oh, anime.

I am currently being traumatized by episode four.

This is just... too real.

(And recent. For example: today with my youngest. :I )

EDIT: Okay, not quite his problem. But still!

Grand Lodge

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It's great, just don't think about it too much.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

I'd love to hear more about both of those.

What is your take?

the situation was a social encounter with an intelligent monster that enjoyed the trappings of discourse, although it definitely planned to kill and eat the party after palavering. Everyone failed their save except for the monk, who was initially suspicious, but had no evidence of spellcasting as the creature used a spell like ability as opposed to outright casting. The monk attacked once they felt the magic, and assumed their friends shook it off too, but was horrified to discover they were wrong. Thank to the work of Byers, I ruled Charm Person akin to the old school Friends spell as opposed to making them robotically/fanatically loyal to the caster which is sometimes implied in other works, and ruled the monk up and smacked an old friend of the party- to their eyes it was like good friends starting a fight at a party. Instantly the party upbraided the monk for attacking their host, with the most bombastic party member instantly becoming the meekest and confused, strongly implying the monk was drunk on strongwine. The most social character attempted to smooth things over but was outraged at the monks unexplained behavior, with excellent roleplaying, apologizing and yelling simultaneously. But it was the party's lone evil character who took the most direct and in-character action, spilling his wine as he stomped over to the monk, casting teleport to move him and the monk a considerable distance away, and directly telling the monk that he needed to cool off- immediately.

Yeah, the sheer number of authors/players who treat Charm Person as the end-all, be-all, "I now own you!" is downright depressing.

Your group sounds like they handled it magnificently, as the spell is intended rather than how so many groups try to play it.

"I cast Charm Person, then I tell him that I'd be happy to hold on to his valuables while he goes into the dungeon and fights,"...

we worked together and ruled that dominate other was the spell for robotic control of another person with naked, very obvious "tells" that the person was not themselves. The classic(and gross) using dominate other for sexual purposes would lead to the most awkward and uncomfortable sex ever as the dominated party went mechanically through the motions of sex without arousal- or stopping(until expressly ordered to do so). Ordering someone to give them all items of value would result in mechanically handing things over one by one, including clothes, piercings, keepsakes, and assorted junk you dont think is valuable, but technically are. Conversations would become laborious as the dominated party expressed all thoughts on a subject they are being interrogated on without insight into them. It remains a powerful spell, but needs careful wording/strict monitoring to avoid problems.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Party Member: Hey, wizard! You just got Charmed! Quick, cast Dispel Magic on yourself to get rid of it!"

Player: OK. That sounds like something I'd believe and do.
GM: No, it's not. You're Charmed. You're not allowed to do that.

Actually, the GM sounds reasonably here. What sort of believable reason the first character presented to make the wizard believe such b#+#~$$~? Humans generally rationalize their emotions and are easy to assume that their are in full control of themselves and have hard time to believe that they were tricked, bluffed, or manipulated, or that their behavior is influenced (be that by chemicals, past trauma, or social conditioning).


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Tacticslion wrote:
Andostre wrote:
If the reader doesn't need to edit the document, I'd say convert it to a PDF and send it to them as that.

Hahah! That sounds suuuuuuper easy!

... I, uh... I know how to do that. Yeah.

But. Um. But, uh, you know. For, um. For those people that. Ah. That, don't - you know... know. Perhaps you should explain it.

... for those people.

it's me

Open the document in word. Find "export as pdf". Make sure you know where it was saved. Done.


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Drejk wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Party Member: Hey, wizard! You just got Charmed! Quick, cast Dispel Magic on yourself to get rid of it!"

Player: OK. That sounds like something I'd believe and do.
GM: No, it's not. You're Charmed. You're not allowed to do that.
Actually, the GM sounds reasonably here. What sort of believable reason the first character presented to make the wizard believe such b%&!&!@@? Humans generally rationalize their emotions and are easy to assume that their are in full control of themselves and have hard time to believe that they were tricked, bluffed, or manipulated, or that their behavior is influenced (be that by chemicals, past trauma, or social conditioning).

We can agree to disagree here. In a world where mind control is commonplace, "You're being mind controlled! Try freeing yourself with an easy spell you already know!" is something I'd believe... at least the first couple of times my friends tried it on me...


Drejk wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Andostre wrote:
If the reader doesn't need to edit the document, I'd say convert it to a PDF and send it to them as that.

Hahah! That sounds suuuuuuper easy!

... I, uh... I know how to do that. Yeah.

But. Um. But, uh, you know. For, um. For those people that. Ah. That, don't - you know... know. Perhaps you should explain it.

... for those people.

it's me

Open the document in word. Find "export as pdf". Make sure you know where it was saved. Done.

Wizardry win!


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What happened when the General cast charm person as a catfolk sorcerer?

She had someone carry her.


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Hello, everyone.


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Three hours of sleep, a shower, my hair untangled, an hour of trying to sleep, pestering Freehold, Lisa, and Vany with my pop music group ideas, and finally making fresh coffee and waiting for Tiny T-Rex to get off the bus.

That's my day.


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captain yesterday wrote:

What happened when the General cast charm person as a catfolk sorcerer?

She had someone carry her.

I achieved the same without casting any spell, just by virtue of being a weasel familiar...


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Tacticslion wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Andostre wrote:
If the reader doesn't need to edit the document, I'd say convert it to a PDF and send it to them as that.

Hahah! That sounds suuuuuuper easy!

... I, uh... I know how to do that. Yeah.

But. Um. But, uh, you know. For, um. For those people that. Ah. That, don't - you know... know. Perhaps you should explain it.

... for those people.

it's me

Open the document in word. Find "export as pdf". Make sure you know where it was saved. Done.
Wizardry win!

Hooray!

Another way is File --> Save As.. and then in the "Save as type" drop-down where you could select .docx, .doc, .txt, etc. ...you can also select .pdf with the same result. Some versions of Word have "Save as PDF" right beneath "Save As."


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I have envisioned a villain who can cast charm person at-will (or at least a high number of times per day) with no other magic/supernatural abilities and is not skilled in combat in any way. They need time to set things up, but by the time the PCs come along, they might have a real challenge ahead of them.


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Yes, the PDF route is best if you're needing to keep the formatting. You can also just go through the normal "Save As" route and select .pdf as your file type.

Word is a little flakey about keeping/changing formatting when opening the .docx file between two different versions of Word, and make no mistake about it, the Office programs you get on iOS devices is subtly different from Windows. You also can find formatting differences when opening a .docx from other programs like Libre or OpenOffice.

EDIT: It's not an every time thing, either. It's just...flakey.


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People tend to treat charm person as if it were dominate person. People tend to forget that charm person is just a 1st level spell, and all it does is make someone a little friendlier towards you. Not stupid. Not suicidal.

I think Freehold's group handled that really well.


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AT&T Update:

I have to admit, they've got a lot of nerve. After practically not bothering to show up at all last week, then extending the No Parking until Thursday of this week via last-minute Sharpee, they have parking enforcement here this afternoon.

Takes a lot of cojones to not even bother to show up during your scheduled time, then show up a week late and start ticketing people about it.

Since it's not in front of my house, I have no standing. Otherwise I'd be raising heck.


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Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"


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NobodysHome wrote:

Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"

This is the most "NobodysHome as a dad in a magical world" statement i have read to date.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"

And this just reminds me that my in-character explanation for my wizard researching momento mori was that he'd just had a daughter and wanted to be able to threaten her would-be boyfriends.


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Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"

And this just reminds me that my in-character explanation for my wizard researching momento mori was that he'd just had a daughter and wanted to be able to threaten her would-be boyfriends.

"There is no kill like over-kill."

(I do have to wonder, what 160 HD creature would even be interested in the wizard's daughter anyway. ... that could fail the fortitude save. If it wasn't a terribly moral wizard, it might be worth not researching the spell just to see what happens and why...)


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NobodysHome wrote:

Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"

It would also bring a massive mistrust between people...

On completely unrelated note. Quite a lot of RL witch trials was initiated when a rejected admirer who could not get over his obsession accused the woman that rejected him of casting a charm on him.

Though my favorite witchcraft accusation had place in (I think) late XVII or early XVIII century Poland, when a wife of a senior (as in being higher ranked and wealthy) village peasant accused a local wise woman of giving a herbal bath to their (young male) farmworker (who was already the husband's lover) to make him more attractive to the elder man and because of this, the husband stopped fulfilling his "marital obligations" toward the wife focusing solely on the enchanted farmworker...

Fun part is that wasn't panicked "oh, noes! witchcraft!" but "this specific procedure caused me clear injury of me not getting my share of my husband 'attention'".

EDIT: Regretfully, the court notes did not contained the information about the lawsuit results :(


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Tacticslion wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"

And this just reminds me that my in-character explanation for my wizard researching momento mori was that he'd just had a daughter and wanted to be able to threaten her would-be boyfriends.

"There is no kill like over-kill."

(I do have to wonder, what 160 HD creature would even be interested in the wizard's daughter anyway. ... that could fail the fortitude save. If it wasn't a terribly moral wizard, it might be worth not researching the spell just to see what happens and why...)

He did not have the requisite Wisdom or Charisma to say "this will end badly, and I should care about that." He did, however, have a wife that told him he could learn the spell, but ffs, she's two; this isn't going to be an issue for years.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"

And this just reminds me that my in-character explanation for my wizard researching momento mori was that he'd just had a daughter and wanted to be able to threaten her would-be boyfriends.

"There is no kill like over-kill."

(I do have to wonder, what 160 HD creature would even be interested in the wizard's daughter anyway. ... that could fail the fortitude save. If it wasn't a terribly moral wizard, it might be worth not researching the spell just to see what happens and why...)

He was totally the type who would waste a spell of that power on a passing pigeon just to Make A Point.


Orthos wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"

And this just reminds me that my in-character explanation for my wizard researching momento mori was that he'd just had a daughter and wanted to be able to threaten her would-be boyfriends.

"There is no kill like over-kill."

(I do have to wonder, what 160 HD creature would even be interested in the wizard's daughter anyway. ... that could fail the fortitude save. If it wasn't a terribly moral wizard, it might be worth not researching the spell just to see what happens and why...)

He was totally the type who would waste a spell of that power on a passing pigeon just to Make A Point.

Your point is?

EDIT: okay, wow, that first link was small, easy to miss, and made this come off as much more rude and aggressive than intended... second time this week; I gotta get better at this... I'm good at jokes and references, you guys, I swear~! Q.Q


Scintillae wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"

And this just reminds me that my in-character explanation for my wizard researching momento mori was that he'd just had a daughter and wanted to be able to threaten her would-be boyfriends.

"There is no kill like over-kill."

(I do have to wonder, what 160 HD creature would even be interested in the wizard's daughter anyway. ... that could fail the fortitude save. If it wasn't a terribly moral wizard, it might be worth not researching the spell just to see what happens and why...)

He did not have the requisite Wisdom or Charisma to say "this will end badly, and I should care about that." He did, however, have a wife that told him he could learn the spell, but ffs, she's two; this isn't going to be an issue for years.

Look, epic spells take time. At least he plans ahead.


Drejk wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Sorry, but Drejk really got me thinking: If you imagine a world where every bard, cleric, or fledgling wizard on Spring Break has access to Charm Person, every well-to-do parent would be teaching their daughters: "I don't care how much you love him, and trust him, and want to get busy with him. Before you sleep with him, head over to the temple and use this 5 gold pieces to have them cast Detect Magic on you. If it comes back negative, go to town!"

It would also bring a massive mistrust between people...

On completely unrelated note. Quite a lot of RL witch trials was initiated when a rejected admirer who could not get over his obsession accused the woman that rejected him of casting a charm on him.

Though my favorite witchcraft accusation had place in (I think) late XVII or early XVIII century Poland, when a wife of a senior (as in being higher ranked and wealthy) village peasant accused a local wise woman of giving a herbal bath to their (young male) farmworker (who was already the husband's lover) to make him more attractive to the elder man and because of this, the husband stopped fulfilling his "marital obligations" toward the wife focusing solely on the enchanted farmworker...

Fun part is that wasn't panicked "oh, noes! witchcraft!" but "this specific procedure caused me clear injury of me not getting my share of my husband 'attention'".

EDIT: Regretfully, the court notes did not contained the information about the lawsuit results :(

As long as everyone got some compensation, you know?

NYAHAHAH~! Now it will be stuck in all of you're heads, too! Oh, snap, this thing is still, on, wait, gotta redact this part before I submit the pos-

EDIT: now I have to ask which of the above is your favorite version?


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Here's a cover song you won't be able to get out of your head.


Oh! Hey! It's that one person I saw collaborate with Post Modern Jukebox that one time, and now I find has a PMJ-like channel! Neat!


Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

Looking at a blood cell covered in blood.

I just. What.

Oh, anime.

And it's adorable. Oh no.

It also makes for a really good interpretation of a fantasy world. Heh.

Oh, anime.

I am currently being traumatized by episode four.

This is just... too real.

(And recent. For example: today with my youngest. :I )

EDIT: Okay, not quite his problem. But still!

'daaaawwwww... so adorable. They've always been destined to run into each other.


Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

Looking at a blood cell covered in blood.

I just. What.

Oh, anime.

And it's adorable. Oh no.

It also makes for a really good interpretation of a fantasy world. Heh.

Oh, anime.

I am currently being traumatized by episode four.

This is just... too real.

(And recent. For example: today with my youngest. :I )

EDIT: Okay, not quite his problem. But still!

'daaaawwwww... so adorable. They've always been destined to run into each other.

This body has the worst luck. I mean. The worst.

EDIT: wow, that was... timely.


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Since Google-fu has produced nothing and Archives of Nethys is nigh-unusable, I'll turn once again to FaWtL: Is there a feat or feat chain that allows you to use metamagic feats when using a staff?

Googling shows mysterious references to "some class abilities", but it seems like it would be powerful awesomeness, which is probably why I don't see it anywhere.


I know PF has a PrC that allows you to do it with scrolls.

I think the sorcerer arcane bloodline allows it, maybe?

(Maybe)

I know 3.5 had something like that. I gotta look at it.


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Third run without Fat Pervert Captain, hopefully he finally quit.

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