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odds that it sticks to 'celebrity designer' if the game tanks (for any reason)?


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Nylarthotep wrote:
odds that it sticks to 'celebrity designer' if the game tanks (for any reason)?

I would guess public distancing from the celebrity developer (or further throwing of the in-house dev team under the bus), but the media would still probably tie them back to it.


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Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Demolition!

The single best word in the English language!

here, we disagree.

Touche!

Very well, the fourth best word in the English language (behind sex, fellatio and doggystyle).


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Odds that I forgot to put on clothes?

The closest thing that comes to mind is the 38 Studios fiasco with all of its big names and less than optimal output.


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Nylarthotep wrote:

Odds that I forgot to put on clothes?

The closest thing that comes to mind is the 38 Studios fiasco with all of its big names and less than optimal output.

38 Studios had issues far beyond something like what NH described.


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Truth.

But it was the example of celebrities dipping into game design that came to mind for me when I asked if any negative fallout could adhere.

The real question is - since this person is being lauded for all the good that can possibly come from this game...do they also get credit for all the bad that can possibly come from this game? Can you have one type of attribution without the other?

Mostly I just don't want to work.


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That question depends on who's spin machine is working better. The guest dev will try to claim all the good things and not mention the bad. When the gamers start yelling about the bad aspects, the guest dev will remain silent as long as possible. Eventually you'll get a "I didn't work on that aspect of the game" statement. And then anonymously sourced statements will leak from the game studio...

And then it really will come down to who the gaming public believes.


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NobodysHome wrote:

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you gotta be s#@&ting me.

And I have no idea what societal attitude you are referring to, this guy needs his legs broken, and I think most of society would agree.


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Nylarthotep wrote:

Truth.

But it was the example of celebrities dipping into game design that came to mind for me when I asked if any negative fallout could adhere.

The real question is - since this person is being lauded for all the good that can possibly come from this game...do they also get credit for all the bad that can possibly come from this game? Can you have one type of attribution without the other?

Mostly I just don't want to work.

I dont think this person is a celebrity, but a celebrity designer?


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So, I saw it throughout my academic career, then I started seeing it in reality TV, then I started seeing it in the gaming industry, then I started seeing it in our politicians:
- "Everything good that happens is because of something that I did"
- "Everything bad that happens is someone else's fault"

And it has sickened me for the 30-odd years that I've been aware of it that people let such a*****s get away with it.

So I vent.

And GothBard was cute.

"Of COURSE you vent, Love! You're a paladin and these people are being dishonest and vile and nobody is righteously smiting them down. That's just your nature!"


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NobodysHome wrote:

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Well crapmonkeys.

I had preregistered for the game because GothBard sounded so enthused when she told me about her work on it, and now I am much less interested. I guess I'm going to play it anyway, because it's her hard work, regardless of who gets the credit, but that is low.


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NobodysHome wrote:

So, I saw it throughout my academic career, then I started seeing it in reality TV, then I started seeing it in the gaming industry, then I started seeing it in our politicians:

- "Everything good that happens is because of something that I did"
- "Everything bad that happens is someone else's fault"

And it has sickened me for the 30-odd years that I've been aware of it that people let such a*****s get away with it.

So I vent.

And GothBard was cute.

"Of COURSE you vent, Love! You're a paladin and these people are being dishonest and vile and nobody is righteously smiting them down. That's just your nature!"

That's why I love GothBard.


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Well crapmonkeys.

I had preregistered for the game because GothBard sounded so enthused when she told me about her work on it, and now I am much less interested. I guess I'm going to play it anyway, because it's her hard work, regardless of who gets the credit, but that is low.

Yeah, PLEASE play it! No matter what vile crap the publicity department is doing, the success of the game determines HER bonuses, raises, and promotions, so play, play, play!!!! :-P


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NobodysHome wrote:

So, I saw it throughout my academic career, then I started seeing it in reality TV, then I started seeing it in the gaming industry, then I started seeing it in our politicians:

- "Everything good that happens is because of something that I did"
- "Everything bad that happens is someone else's fault"

And it has sickened me for the 30-odd years that I've been aware of it that people let such a*****s get away with it.

So I vent.

And GothBard was cute.

"Of COURSE you vent, Love! You're a paladin and these people are being dishonest and vile and nobody is righteously smiting them down. That's just your nature!"

geeze. What does that make me?

tests out baseball bats for maximum stinginess compared to dummy kneecaps


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Well crapmonkeys.

I had preregistered for the game because GothBard sounded so enthused when she told me about her work on it, and now I am much less interested. I guess I'm going to play it anyway, because it's her hard work, regardless of who gets the credit, but that is low.

Is that a game we might have heard of?


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NobodysHome wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Well crapmonkeys.

I had preregistered for the game because GothBard sounded so enthused when she told me about her work on it, and now I am much less interested. I guess I'm going to play it anyway, because it's her hard work, regardless of who gets the credit, but that is low.

Yeah, PLEASE play it! No matter what vile crap the publicity department is doing, the success of the game determines HER bonuses, raises, and promotions, so play, play, play!!!! :-P

I'll buy a copy.


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JACKHAMMER!!

The fifth best word in the English language!


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Still gonna disagree with you there.


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Well crapmonkeys.

I had preregistered for the game because GothBard sounded so enthused when she told me about her work on it, and now I am much less interested. I guess I'm going to play it anyway, because it's her hard work, regardless of who gets the credit, but that is low.

Yeah, PLEASE play it! No matter what vile crap the publicity department is doing, the success of the game determines HER bonuses, raises, and promotions, so play, play, play!!!! :-P

I'll buy a copy.

It's a mobile gaming app and it's a free download.


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lisamarlene wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Well crapmonkeys.

I had preregistered for the game because GothBard sounded so enthused when she told me about her work on it, and now I am much less interested. I guess I'm going to play it anyway, because it's her hard work, regardless of who gets the credit, but that is low.

Yeah, PLEASE play it! No matter what vile crap the publicity department is doing, the success of the game determines HER bonuses, raises, and promotions, so play, play, play!!!! :-P

I'll buy a copy.
It's a mobile gaming app and it's a free download.

freehold will freedownload.


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I have GothBard's permission: Her newly-launched game is Vineyard Valley.

Have at!


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So, I saw it throughout my academic career, then I started seeing it in reality TV, then I started seeing it in the gaming industry, then I started seeing it in our politicians:

- "Everything good that happens is because of something that I did"
- "Everything bad that happens is someone else's fault"

And it has sickened me for the 30-odd years that I've been aware of it that people let such a*****s get away with it.

So I vent.

And GothBard was cute.

"Of COURSE you vent, Love! You're a paladin and these people are being dishonest and vile and nobody is righteously smiting them down. That's just your nature!"

geeze. What does that make me?

tests out baseball bats for maximum stinginess compared to dummy kneecaps

I'm going with inquisitor of Calistria...


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Freehold DM wrote:
Still gonna disagree with you there.

You've obviously never used a jackhammer attachment for a mini bobcat, it's like having a second super powered penis, except for concrete.


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"As the ninja prophets say, Mom, fighting is easier than sports."

-Teensy Valeros, explaining why I need to buy him a bow and arrows.


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You don't fight with a bow and arrow! You snipe from a distance and prevent one from happening.


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Scintillae wrote:
You don't fight with a bow and arrow! You snipe from a distance and prevent one from happening.

*Raises sceptical, Agincourt-shaped eyebrow*


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So, I saw it throughout my academic career, then I started seeing it in reality TV, then I started seeing it in the gaming industry, then I started seeing it in our politicians:

- "Everything good that happens is because of something that I did"
- "Everything bad that happens is someone else's fault"

And it has sickened me for the 30-odd years that I've been aware of it that people let such a*****s get away with it.

So I vent.

And GothBard was cute.

"Of COURSE you vent, Love! You're a paladin and these people are being dishonest and vile and nobody is righteously smiting them down. That's just your nature!"

geeze. What does that make me?

tests out baseball bats for maximum stinginess compared to dummy kneecaps

I'm going with inquisitor of Calistria...

I was about to say "silly NH, Freehold doesnt bother with questions!" but I then realized that in order to hear my 2 favorite words(or in one person's case, three favorite words) questions usually do have to be asked.


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The aunt on the General's side of the family that previously told Crookshanks she'd "Have to cut her hair if she wanted to have kids" decided she'd have another go at Crookshanks (because evidently she didn't learn from her first experience) and asked Crookshanks what she was planning to go to college for, and Crookshanks replied honestly "I'm not planning on going to college, I want to learn a skilled trade like carpentry or something" so the aunt says "but, don't you want to be successful?" Crookshanks shoots back "my dad's really successful and HE never went to college" so the aunt says "Yeah, but don't you want to make money?" By this time you can see the steam rising from her ears and Crookshanks says "He makes more money than you, hag!" And stomps out. The aunt, looking at us, shocked, says "What!?!" So I reply "It's true, you are a hag, also I DO make more money than you" at which point the General's mom couldn't contain her laughter anymore.


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NobodysHome wrote:

I have GothBard's permission: Her newly-launched game is Vineyard Valley.

Have at!

downloading.


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captain yesterday wrote:
The aunt on the General's side of the family that previously told Crookshanks she'd "Have to cut her hair if she wanted to have kids" decided she'd have another go at Crookshanks (because evidently she didn't learn from her first experience) and asked Crookshanks what she was planning to go to college for, and Crookshanks replied honestly "I'm not planning on going to college, I want to learn a skilled trade like carpentry or something" so the aunt says "but, don't you want to be successful?" Crookshanks shoots back "my dad's really successful and HE never went to college" so the aunt says "Yeah, but don't you want to make money?" By this time you can see the steam rising from her ears and Crookshanks says "He makes more money than you, hag!" And stomps out. The aunt, looking at us, shocked, says "What!?!" So I reply "It's true, you are a hag, also I DO make more money than you" at which point the General's mom couldn't contain her laughter anymore.

Crookshanks gets all the cookies.


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captain yesterday wrote:
The aunt on the General's side of the family that previously told Crookshanks she'd "Have to cut her hair if she wanted to have kids" decided she'd have another go at Crookshanks (because evidently she didn't learn from her first experience) and asked Crookshanks what she was planning to go to college for, and Crookshanks replied honestly "I'm not planning on going to college, I want to learn a skilled trade like carpentry or something" so the aunt says "but, don't you want to be successful?" Crookshanks shoots back "my dad's really successful and HE never went to college" so the aunt says "Yeah, but don't you want to make money?" By this time you can see the steam rising from her ears and Crookshanks says "He makes more money than you, hag!" And stomps out. The aunt, looking at us, shocked, says "What!?!" So I reply "It's true, you are a hag, also I DO make more money than you" at which point the General's mom couldn't contain her laughter anymore.

you make more money than most.


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Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
The aunt on the General's side of the family that previously told Crookshanks she'd "Have to cut her hair if she wanted to have kids" decided she'd have another go at Crookshanks (because evidently she didn't learn from her first experience) and asked Crookshanks what she was planning to go to college for, and Crookshanks replied honestly "I'm not planning on going to college, I want to learn a skilled trade like carpentry or something" so the aunt says "but, don't you want to be successful?" Crookshanks shoots back "my dad's really successful and HE never went to college" so the aunt says "Yeah, but don't you want to make money?" By this time you can see the steam rising from her ears and Crookshanks says "He makes more money than you, hag!" And stomps out. The aunt, looking at us, shocked, says "What!?!" So I reply "It's true, you are a hag, also I DO make more money than you" at which point the General's mom couldn't contain her laughter anymore.
you make more money than most.

And I earn every penny. :-)


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So, I saw it throughout my academic career, then I started seeing it in reality TV, then I started seeing it in the gaming industry, then I started seeing it in our politicians:

- "Everything good that happens is because of something that I did"
- "Everything bad that happens is someone else's fault"

And it has sickened me for the 30-odd years that I've been aware of it that people let such a*****s get away with it.

So I vent.

And GothBard was cute.

"Of COURSE you vent, Love! You're a paladin and these people are being dishonest and vile and nobody is righteously smiting them down. That's just your nature!"

geeze. What does that make me?

tests out baseball bats for maximum stinginess compared to dummy kneecaps

I'm going with inquisitor of Calistria...
I was about to say "silly NH, Freehold doesnt bother with questions!" but I then realized that in order to hear my 2 favorite words(or in one person's case, three favorite words) questions usually do have to be asked.

also, I would have to be a cleric, as I do not do new classes.


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OK, fair clarification: GothBard, being a sensible woman, complained to her manager. And he admitted that the rest of the team was pretty peeved, too, but they shouldn't blame the "designer" because Marketing had told her to say those things.

But the "designer" at least knew full well that she hadn't designed the game; she just accepted money to SAY that she did.

Er, is that really any better?


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NobodysHome wrote:

OK, fair clarification: GothBard, being a sensible woman, complained to her manager. And he admitted that the rest of the team was pretty peeved, too, but they shouldn't blame the "designer" because Marketing had told her to say those things.

But the "designer" at least knew full well that she hadn't designed the game; she just accepted money to SAY that she did.

Er, is that really any better?

Marketing should be less concerned about the design and more concerned about how often it crashes. It's still a little buggy.


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Bruce Hornsby and The Range - Every Little Kiss

Scarab Sages

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Vanykrye wrote:

"My Outlook won't open."

You're in Outlook already. Sixteen times, in fact.

"No, that's something else."

No, really, it's Outlook. See, it says it right here. And here. And here...and so on...and watch, you click the icon that says Outlook, and it opens a seventeenth time. It's working. It won't be working soon, if you keep doing this, but it is working.

"No, that's not what I mean. I'm talking about this one over here. This doesn't work."

...That's also Outlook...

And somehow I'm not allowed to set fire to these people.

I feel you

Scarab Sages

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NobodysHome wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

I would have resorted to slight maiming.

Scarab Sages

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NobodysHome wrote:

I have GothBard's permission: Her newly-launched game is Vineyard Valley.

Have at!

Downloaded it to support gothbard

Scarab Sages

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captain yesterday wrote:
The aunt on the General's side of the family that previously told Crookshanks she'd "Have to cut her hair if she wanted to have kids" decided she'd have another go at Crookshanks (because evidently she didn't learn from her first experience) and asked Crookshanks what she was planning to go to college for, and Crookshanks replied honestly "I'm not planning on going to college, I want to learn a skilled trade like carpentry or something" so the aunt says "but, don't you want to be successful?" Crookshanks shoots back "my dad's really successful and HE never went to college" so the aunt says "Yeah, but don't you want to make money?" By this time you can see the steam rising from her ears and Crookshanks says "He makes more money than you, hag!" And stomps out. The aunt, looking at us, shocked, says "What!?!" So I reply "It's true, you are a hag, also I DO make more money than you" at which point the General's mom couldn't contain her laughter anymore.

You tell them all Crookshanks!


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The nice part about working on a job site two blocks from your house?

Everything.

Dark Archive

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Morning FaWtLites! I hope everyone is doing well and has a good one today. :)


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Jackhammering is hard work.

Only 8 AM and I already broke a sweat.


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Woran wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
The aunt on the General's side of the family that previously told Crookshanks she'd "Have to cut her hair if she wanted to have kids" decided she'd have another go at Crookshanks (because evidently she didn't learn from her first experience) and asked Crookshanks what she was planning to go to college for, and Crookshanks replied honestly "I'm not planning on going to college, I want to learn a skilled trade like carpentry or something" so the aunt says "but, don't you want to be successful?" Crookshanks shoots back "my dad's really successful and HE never went to college" so the aunt says "Yeah, but don't you want to make money?" By this time you can see the steam rising from her ears and Crookshanks says "He makes more money than you, hag!" And stomps out. The aunt, looking at us, shocked, says "What!?!" So I reply "It's true, you are a hag, also I DO make more money than you" at which point the General's mom couldn't contain her laughter anymore.
You tell them all Crookshanks!

uses weather dominator to make lightning flash, thunder roll as crookshanks begins her path to glory


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captain yesterday wrote:

Jackhammering is hard work.

Only 8 AM and I already broke a sweat.

I am sweating from my ride to the diner this morning. Left home early to give myself a treat and do some writing.


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Now this is how celebrities SHOULD behave...


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NobodysHome wrote:
Now this is how celebrities SHOULD behave...

the man is a known local hero.


I always manage to forget that Danny Trejo is 75.


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Yay for progress!

I'm busting up a wall that's been there since 1954, so fun stuff!


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captain yesterday wrote:
The aunt on the General's side of the family that previously told Crookshanks she'd "Have to cut her hair if she wanted to have kids" decided she'd have another go at Crookshanks (because evidently she didn't learn from her first experience) and asked Crookshanks what she was planning to go to college for, and Crookshanks replied honestly "I'm not planning on going to college, I want to learn a skilled trade like carpentry or something" so the aunt says "but, don't you want to be successful?" Crookshanks shoots back "my dad's really successful and HE never went to college" so the aunt says "Yeah, but don't you want to make money?" By this time you can see the steam rising from her ears and Crookshanks says "He makes more money than you, hag!" And stomps out. The aunt, looking at us, shocked, says "What!?!" So I reply "It's true, you are a hag, also I DO make more money than you" at which point the General's mom couldn't contain her laughter anymore.

And nothing stops her from going to college later if she wishes so, and paying for her studies with money she actually earned.

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