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Fun birthday party!!
(Assuming the link works)

EDIT: Yes, my nudity among teenagers made it especially fun.
EDIT 2: I loved Impus Major's description of GothBard in the 3rd photo as, "A dark deadly Mary Poppins."


Freehold DM wrote:
However, do not throw out adhd meds- someone may need them, and its rarely the guy going through your trash looking for things to sell.

I don't know what it's like in your neck of the woods, but here in California once a medication is opened it is highly illegal to do anything with it other than:

(1) Give it to the person to whom it was described
(2) Mix it with used kitty litter and throw it in the trash.

Fortunately, we have ample quantities of #2.

As usual, we live in an area with a population of over 2 million, but, "Turn in your unused, non-expired medication here so it can be redistributed to someone in need," is not a service I've ever even heard of.

And I have Googled multiple times over the years for such a service; I just think California's too anal to allow it.

EDIT: Yep. Here's California's official policy, right off their pharmacy website:
(1) Remove pills and solid medications from their prescription containers and place them in a clear, sealable bag. Keep liquid and cream medications sealed in their original containers.
(2) Take medications to an authorized collection location or place them in a mail-back envelope or package for delivery to an authorized destruction location.
(3) Remove, black out, or scratch off your name and other personal information from prescription drug containers.
(4) Place empty pill bottles and other containers for solid medications in your household recycling bin.

EDIT 2: And at the federal level:
Can unused/unexpired medications be donated?
The answer to this question depends on the state in which you live. There are some resources online that may help you determine whether pharmaceutical donation and reuse programs exist in your state. It should be noted that most state programs do not accept controlled substances.

EDIT 3: And, in a typical government bureaucracy falderal event, This site says that California does indeed have an active donate-and-reuse program, and *finally* provides a link to it. But it also notes the law wasn't expanded until 2012, so since we haven't disposed of any medication since then, it's not surprising I didn't find it the first time...


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captain yesterday wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
I'M ON A BOAAAT
Boats, one of my biggest fears (canoes are cool, I could canoe all day).
Isn't a canoe just a small easily-capsized boat? What is it about boats you fear?

Everything.

Canoes are incredibly safe.


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I got some Neverwinter game that was free on PlayStation Plus.

Says it's D&D related, we'll see if it's any good.


NobodysHome wrote:

Fun birthday party!!

(Assuming the link works)

EDIT: Yes, my nudity among teenagers made it especially fun.
EDIT 2: I loved Impus Major's description of GothBard in the 3rd photo as, "A dark deadly Mary Poppins."

I KNEW that was her.


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Death pillow. A deadly ooze.

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NobodysHome wrote:


EDIT 2: I loved Impus Major's description of GothBard in the 3rd photo as, "A dark deadly Mary Poppins."

Reminds me a bit of Death from Sandman.

Or Marceline from Adventure time.

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captain yesterday wrote:

I got some Neverwinter game that was free on PlayStation Plus.

Says it's D&D related, we'll see if it's any good.

I think that's the 4e-based pseudo-MMO. The one I play is the 3e (not 3.5, though we've made a lot of edits and adjustments to many things to get closer to 3.5 where we can) Neverwinter Nights 1.

Still, if you enjoy it, have a good one!

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ADHD meds can be both a blessing and a curse.
Ive had friends quit them, because they didnt feel like themselves anymore.
Ive had friends in tear, being so happy, since they finally had some peace and quiet in their heads after years.


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Orthos wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

I got some Neverwinter game that was free on PlayStation Plus.

Says it's D&D related, we'll see if it's any good.

I think that's the 4e-based pseudo-MMO. The one I play is the 3e (not 3.5, though we've made a lot of edits and adjustments to many things to get closer to 3.5 where we can) Neverwinter Nights 1.

Still, if you enjoy it, have a good one!

It looks like it's based on 5th edition and is fairly recent.

We'll see if it's any good, I'm always skeptical when it comes to D&D.


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Urgh…

Still alive (somewhat at least).
Also still not quite on the up and up yet. It's the same depressive junk that's haunting me still, so I don't wanna stir around in it any more, as you guy know the drill by now...I'm just tired and sick of it all.
Everything said though I still got my ass dragged down to do my civic duty today, and cast my vote for the European parliament election(s).

Freehold DM wrote:

...

Unfortunately, the game system and its various iterations are INCREDIBLY difficult to learn…

...as the game systems for each class were very far removed from each other...

...Also as time went on, starting money became increasingly important in game, to the point that people would ignore stats to buy things...

I love Shadowrun, but I wholeheartedly agree with these assessments.

Freehold DM wrote:

Also, some social justice issues rising in the game resulted in some problems at some tables, primarily with ghouls being considered a sentient race, and orcs(and occasionally trolls) becoming the black people of the game via their struggle for equal rights, and orcsploitation films entering prominence(which is weird to me, considering Neil The Orc Barbarian was a LONG RUNNING(30 years old at this point!) joke, and the idea of Elf/Orc/Troll Poser as a background for characters(at least late 4th/5th ed pointed out you are going to likely get your ass kicked by the respective races in game, similar to white kids trying to act hood and getting openly mocked by people from the hood irl)...

Not good at discussing these things, but even I could see the parallels between meta-human/human racism, cultural issues and expressions in Shadowrun and, well, the historical/modern US...

Still, in my humble and pasty assed opinion they did an allright job at exploring the various angles of the issues, whithout leaning too heavily in any particular direction.

(Though I started playing in 4th/5th ed. so I can't really speak to the portrayal in the editions before that, i'm afraid to say.)

Freehold DM wrote:


6th ed is running on/selling simplicity as its main draw, which has me very interested in it...

I guess we will see what happens....

Probably a smart idea…as it could do with being a bit more learning/teaching friendly.

Though as I own almost all of the published 5th ed products, it'll take quite some convincing for me to shift over straight away ^^'

NobodysHome wrote:


Well, GothBard put it really well: In Strange Aeons it's not being Lawful that's the problem. You're traveling down a river and you develop a relationship with the captain and her crew. Then you're asked, "Do you want to attack this government official carrying out his or her officially-sanctioned duty?"

And for players who actually think about the consequences of their actions, they say, "Heck, no! We could easily win this fight this time, but the next time our captain comes down this river she's going to be hosed if we do that."

My players actually think like that. "If we do this, how will it negatively impact the NPCs with whom we're traveling?"

I love them for it, but man, does it mess up this AP...

I vote for trashing Alignment in favour for instructing players in a form of 'in-world consequentialism'...

...
Otherwise I agree with your players ^^'

*Kicks the 'Alignment' dead horse*

lisamarlene wrote:

So this is fun:

Yesterday, WW and I met with the director of my school (my boss, but also Teensy Valeros's principal) to discuss his transition to first grade next year. She dropped a bomb on us: we can only re-enroll him if we get him on ADHD medication over the summer.
The only problem being, the kids and I were supposed to leave Dallas on June 19th, and not be back until a week before school starts.
Now I have no idea how in the world I am going to find a new pediatrician, get him on medication, and still take the children to visit my family this summer. Because, no, it doesn't make sense to get a pediatrician in Oregon, and no, not going to Oregon is not an option. And no, taking him out of the school is not an option, either.
F**k.

*Waddles in and huggles LM*

Hope you find a workable solution LM...

Woran wrote:

ADHD meds can be both a blessing and a curse.

Ive had friends quit them, because they didnt feel like themselves anymore.
Ive had friends in tear, being so happy, since they finally had some peace and quiet in their heads after years.

Too true Woran…

At times I still wish I had been able to quite my anti-depressants, instead of my Ritalin, as I dearly miss it at times...Though I knew that both were bad for me in the long run (and in side effects), it was just the Ritalin that was easier to quit (it didn't leave me with withdrawals as my anti-depressants do).
Sigh...


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Urgh…

Still alive (somewhat at least).
Also still not quite on the up and up yet. It's the same depressive junk that's haunting me still, so I don't wanna stir around in it any more, as you guy know the drill by now...I'm just tired and sick of it all.
Everything said though I still got my ass dragged down to do my civic duty today, and cast my vote for the European parliament election(s).

I did that on Thursday.

I gotta fever, and the only prescription is MORE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT ELECTIONS!!!!!


Evil Turtle wrote:
*Kicks the 'Alignment' dead horse*

Easy their cowboy


Beating A Dead Horse wrote:
Evil Turtle wrote:
*Kicks the 'Alignment' dead horse*
Easy their cowboy

Whoa there, Tex.


I think Captain just prefers to have his feet firmly planted on a solid surface. (with no un-solid surface immediately beneath that solid surface. )


Drejk wrote:
Death pillow. A deadly ooze.

This makes me so happy.


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Earlier tonight, my wife said "Is it too much to ask for some peace and quiet while I cook dinner?"

So I took the batteries out of the smoke alarms.


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Me: "I'm terrified of the Backstreet Boys."
Therapist: "Tell me why."
Me: *screams*


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I was putting mustard on a sandwich today and had a strange sensation that I'd done it before. I guess it was just a case of Dijon Vu.


gran rey de los mono wrote:

Me: "I'm terrified of the Backstreet Boys."

Therapist: "Tell me why."
Me: *screams*

Ok That one got a solid Guffaw from me.


Bad jokes are the best, and now I will say why.

Why.


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Therapist: "What is your greatest fear?"
Me: "Vowels."
Therapist: "Why?"
Me: "Only sometimes."


I had a check-up the other day. The doctor recommended I increase my soda consumption to 4 liters per day, start smoking, do no exercise, and eat more saturated fats. I think he may know that I've been sleeping with his wife.


gran rey de los mono wrote:
I had a check-up the other day. The doctor recommended I increase my soda consumption to 4 liters per day, start smoking, do no exercise, and eat more saturated fats. I think he may know that I've been sleeping with his wife.

May you got like 30 wives and who knows how many girl friends why you got to play the Doc like that? Also I don't suggest taking any medication he prescribes...


Vidmaster7 wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
I had a check-up the other day. The doctor recommended I increase my soda consumption to 4 liters per day, start smoking, do no exercise, and eat more saturated fats. I think he may know that I've been sleeping with his wife.
May you got like 30 wives and who knows how many girl friends why you got to play the Doc like that? Also I don't suggest taking any medication he prescribes...

What can I say, ladies love the gran rey.


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Until they get to know you apparently. Hence all the ex-wives.

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Good morning everyone


Mornin.


Red Dead Cap'n Yesterday wrote:
Beating A Dead Horse wrote:
Evil Turtle wrote:
*Kicks the 'Alignment' dead horse*
Easy their cowboy
Whoa there, Tex.

{shouts in Canadian accent} I'm not your buddy Tex, guy!


Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:
Red Dead Cap'n Yesterday wrote:
Beating A Dead Horse wrote:
Evil Turtle wrote:
*Kicks the 'Alignment' dead horse*
Easy their cowboy
Whoa there, Tex.
{shouts in Canadian accent} I'm not your buddy Tex, guy!

Hold on there, champ, what's the dealio?


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Anyone (TOZ) hear anything about the Starfinder Adventure Path after Attack Of The Swarm?

All I've heard is it's called The Threefold Conspiracy (which is an amazing title by the way).


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I'm walking the dog before it starts raining all day/week.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
I think Captain just prefers to have his feet firmly planted on a solid surface. (with no un-solid surface immediately beneath that solid surface. )

That sounds about right.

Heights, boats, and bridges, in that order.

I should note that while I'm afraid of those things that won't stop me from confronting them.

I drove over Loveland pass (12,000 feet) in Colorado, lived in Seattle (a city with over 200 bridges) for four years and drove over both the Tacoma Narrows Bridge and the Golden Gate bridge, plus had to take numerous ferries and other boats.


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Soooooo proud!

But...

Grumpy Old Man NobodysHome's Tirade About Kids These Days:

Maybe it's this generation of kids, or maybe it's just that none of the kids I knew pulled this kind of s*** when I was young, but the overwhelming sense of entitlement among Impus Major's friends is truly staggering.

So, the prom was in an industrial area in San Francisco, and Impus Major and his friends bought tickets, planned to go there, and made no plans whatsoever how to get there and back. They just kind of... expected it to happen. Bacon Boy's dad is a stand-up guy and volunteered to drive them to prom, hang out in San Francisco for the evening in case they wanted to bail early, take them to dinner afterwards, and then take them home. They accepted, and things were (relatively) fine until the prom actually started...

...at which point Bacon Boy's dad heard whispers in the back seat that they were going to go to a post-prom party at a girl's house whose parents wouldn't be there. Not uncoincidentally, the same girl who "OD'ed" a couple of weeks ago. <sarcasm>Oh my goodness, what a surprise!</sarcasm>.

At 9:30 pm the boys called him, asked for a ride to Richmond to said girls house, and asked him to drive them home once they were done partying. I would have said, "No," on the spot, but instead he called all the other parents, who first said, "No," but then said, "Why don't you get in touch with the girl's parents, make sure they'll be home, and then call us back and we'll make our decision."

And it was at this point that Bacon Boy's dad exploded. "I'm not your <expletive> operator! I'm not your <expletive> chauffeur! I'm just going to do what I volunteered to do and I'm done!"

And the kids were ticked with him for that.

I should add that they're planning on going to San Francisco in drag on Tuesday (senior ditch day), and again for dinner post-graduation (because their "leader" is an S.F-o-phile and can't imagine that there are dozens of excellent restaurants within an easy walk of here), and expected Bacon Boy's dad to drive them on these trips as well.

So, by two big takeaways:
(1) When I was a kid, my parents refused to drive me anywhere. If I wanted to go somewhere, I either had to learn to drive or to get there on my own. I still remember taking the bus to downtown Berkeley and then the Lawrence Hall of Science shuttle to get up to LHS at the ripe old age of 10 years old, all alone, just to play on their computers. I had to walk to school every day, rain or shine, I had to walk to my friends' houses, no matter where they were, and if it was too far to walk my mother kept an envelope full of bus schedules and a bowl full of change so we could get there.
These days parents are so accustomed to driving their kids everywhere that the kids never learn to take public transportation and have no inclination to learn to drive. Impus Major and his friends are all over 18, and none of them drive. The ONE kid who's even tried has failed his driving test twice. And it's pretty hard to fail that test.

(2) The repercussions of #1 are that kids feel entitled to eternal rides, and this is exacerbated by parents who reinforce that. Leader Boy's mother is a horrific enabler; if her son wants it, it's her duty to provide it. So he's a pushy a**hat who expects everyone to bend to his will. It was his mother who expected Bacon Boy's dad to drive the kids everywhere, then get out of their hair and wait patiently "somewhere else" until they needed him again. He was going to get his own table at the fancy restaurant for the post-graduation dinner, and her response was, "Oh, you can't eat in the same restaurant as them! It'll ruin their dinner!"
If you act like your kids' doormat for your life, your kids are going to grow up to be pushy a**hats.

It was nice to have a LONG conversation with Impus Major about such things yesterday morning before the trip, because when I was young I was the "responsible one" who moderated the excesses of the rest of the gang. Impus Major has the disposition to be that person for this gang, but not the force of personality. I'll talk to him this morning and tell him why Bacon Boy's dad was so pissed, and that they're working really hard to lose anyone who will drive them.

(Yeah, I won't drive them anywhere unless directly asked by Bacon Boy's dad, because he's driven my kids a few times so I figure that as an adult I owe him reciprocation. I don't owe the kids rides. Ever.)


captain yesterday wrote:
I'm walking the dog before it starts raining all day/week.

The weather around here is usually quite simple: From May 1 - August 31 you get no precipitation whatsoever, though you're likely to get around 60 days of heavy fog.

This year we already have over 3" of rain in May (average annual rainfall around here is under 30", so over 10% of our average total). Our storage facility is raising our rates by over 10% per year, so I'm trying to empty it and I decided to fill the side yard with boxes, since they would at least be relatively dry.

Oops! 1/4" of rain on my boxes yesterday.

What the heck is up with the weather this year?

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(1) When I was a kid, my parents refused to drive me anywhere. If I wanted to go somewhere, I either had to learn to drive or to get there on my own. I still remember taking the bus to downtown Berkeley and then the Lawrence Hall of Science shuttle to get up to LHS at the ripe old age of 10 years old, all alone, just to play on their computers. I had to walk to school every day, rain or shine, I had to walk to my friends' houses, no matter where they were, and if it was too far to walk my mother kept an envelope full of bus schedules and a bowl full of change so we could get there.

These days parents are so accustomed to driving their kids everywhere that the kids never learn to take public transportation and have no inclination to learn to drive. Impus Major and his friends are all over 18, and none of them drive. The ONE kid who's even tried has failed his driving test twice. And it's pretty hard to fail that test.

The funny thing is, I was that kind of kid growing up, but less out of entitlement and more out of being a nerd who never wanted to go anywhere, I just wanted to stay in my room and read books or play video games.

Granted, I grew up in a tiny, tiny town that didn't have public transit and was small enough to walk from my house on one side to the high school on the complete opposite within the space of about an hour, hour fifteen max. Once I got out to Arizona and started living in a bigger city for the first time in my life, I got the hang of public transit pretty quick, learned how to read the schedule signs and what routes were good for getting where, as having neither driver's license nor car would have made any sort of travel in a bigger city (much less one as prone to extreme heat as Phoenix) pretty much impossible.

I ended up getting my license around 26, when I had to leave Phoenix and move back to Tennessee because the economy was crap, and Chattanooga only has reliable public transit for the downtown area, which is not where I live. So unless I wanted to be a 30-year-old still bumming rides from parents (ah, no, I need at least a bit more independence than that, and plus it was becoming increasingly impossible to negotiate all of our conflicting schedules after the first month or so after I moved back) learning to drive became a necessity.


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You call that tiny!

I've lived in three towns (Blenker, Christie, and New York, Wi.) that were so small they didn't even have a post office, much less took any amount of time to walk across.


Shiro: It's Memorial Day! We should do something!
NobodysHome: It's Memorial Day in the Bay Area! Every fool and his brother will be on the road! It would take either of us at least 2 hours each way to get to the other person's house.
Shiro: Yeah! It's Memorial Day! We should do something!

My Memorial Days typically consisting of avoiding all roads and public areas because I hate people.


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See, in the Midwest, everyone from the city escapes to the country or lake for holiday weekends (except for Brat Fest, which is easily avoided) so the roads aren't clogged, there aren't any lines, it's wonderful!


My Memorial Day is watching Youtube and making cookies. Maybe I'll walk to the Redbox later and get a movie.


NobodysHome wrote:

Shiro: It's Memorial Day! We should do something!

NobodysHome: It's Memorial Day in the Bay Area! Every fool and his brother will be on the road! It would take either of us at least 2 hours each way to get to the other person's house.
Shiro: Yeah! It's Memorial Day! We should do something!

My Memorial Days typically consisting of avoiding all roads and public areas because I hate people.

He has a motorcycle, right? Let him come to you. He can lanesplit and get there in half the time a car can.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Soooooo proud!

But...

** spoiler omitted **...

I don't get this. Maybe it's just because I went to high school in two VERY rural towns (far northern CA and then on the Gulf Coast), but everyone had their learner's permit as soon as they were of age, your driver's license ditto, and kids were saving up for their first clunkers from the time they were twelve. Everyone pretty much drove themselves to prom in whatever crapmobiles they had. (And, yes, it was hysterical to see the girls getting out of these beat-up cars in their fancy prom gowns and hair in the gravel parking lot of the National Guard Armory.)


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Shiro: It's Memorial Day! We should do something!

NobodysHome: It's Memorial Day in the Bay Area! Every fool and his brother will be on the road! It would take either of us at least 2 hours each way to get to the other person's house.
Shiro: Yeah! It's Memorial Day! We should do something!

My Memorial Days typically consisting of avoiding all roads and public areas because I hate people.

He has a motorcycle, right? Let him come to you. He can lanesplit and get there in half the time a car can.

Amazing story about that...

When he bought his new house a couple of years ago (which is seriously just his old house expanded by 2' in every direction in every room -- they used the exact same floor plan and just made it a little bigger), he needed to clear his garage, so he put out his motorcycles for one night and they were all stolen.

Someone had obviously been watching the house waiting for him to leave anything of value out, and the moment he did, boom! It was gone!

The cheaper bikes were found stripped fairly quickly, and one guy even got arrested riding one of them, but his really nice bike was lost, so he filed the insurance claim and stopped riding. Hence he has nothing but Mr. Jeep...

...until about two weeks ago when the cops called. They'd nabbed a guy for a routine traffic violation and the guy was riding Shiro's bike.

So Shiro had the option of paying the insurance company back for the bike, and going through all the paperwork of re-registering it to himself, or just calling it a loss.

He chose to call it a loss. Who wants to pay full value for a motorcycle that's been driven by bike thieves for the last 2 years?


Drejk wrote:
Death pillow. A deadly ooze.

I like this thing.


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Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


EDIT 2: I loved Impus Major's description of GothBard in the 3rd photo as, "A dark deadly Mary Poppins."

Reminds me a bit of Death from Sandman.

Or Marceline from Adventure time.

you're only making her hotter!


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Although we probably all agree on this, it's still

Mildly Political:

GothBard just got a robocall informing her that, due to suspicious activity, her Social Security Number had been suspended.
This saddens me for many reasons:
  • There exist people in this country who are still stupid/gullible/confused/mentally incompetent enough to fall for this, yet who are still allowed to answer their own phone and manage their own affairs
  • This country puts mental health at such a low priority that such people cannot get/afford such help, even if they realize they need it
  • There exist people in this world willing to take advantage of such people. I am generally opposed to the death penalty not on moral grounds, but due to the general impossibility of actually proving anything these days. But I'd make an exception for these people
  • The fact that this leads me to the inevitable conclusion that I am in favor of the enforced institutionalization of the mentally incompetent for their own protection

  • Yep. One more step down the path from Lawful Good to Lawful Evil. It's a short path.


    NobodysHome wrote:

    Soooooo proud!

    But...

    ** spoiler omitted **...

    I am of two minds about this. I am of course naturally opposed to kids doing anything so stupid as going to the house of another kid who had something stupid/awful happen without supervision, I also think it is only natural for them to want to be someplace without supervision, as they are teenagers.


    captain yesterday wrote:

    You call that tiny!

    I've lived in three towns (Blenker, Christie, and New York, Wi.) that were so small they didn't even have a post office, much less took any amount of time to walk across.

    madness.


    NobodysHome wrote:
    lisamarlene wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    Shiro: It's Memorial Day! We should do something!

    NobodysHome: It's Memorial Day in the Bay Area! Every fool and his brother will be on the road! It would take either of us at least 2 hours each way to get to the other person's house.
    Shiro: Yeah! It's Memorial Day! We should do something!

    My Memorial Days typically consisting of avoiding all roads and public areas because I hate people.

    He has a motorcycle, right? Let him come to you. He can lanesplit and get there in half the time a car can.

    Amazing story about that...

    When he bought his new house a couple of years ago (which is seriously just his old house expanded by 2' in every direction in every room -- they used the exact same floor plan and just made it a little bigger), he needed to clear his garage, so he put out his motorcycles for one night and they were all stolen.

    Someone had obviously been watching the house waiting for him to leave anything of value out, and the moment he did, boom! It was gone!

    The cheaper bikes were found stripped fairly quickly, and one guy even got arrested riding one of them, but his really nice bike was lost, so he filed the insurance claim and stopped riding. Hence he has nothing but Mr. Jeep...

    ...until about two weeks ago when the cops called. They'd nabbed a guy for a routine traffic violation and the guy was riding Shiro's bike.

    So Shiro had the option of paying the insurance company back for the bike, and going through all the paperwork of re-registering it to himself, or just calling it a loss.

    He chose to call it a loss. Who wants to pay full value for a motorcycle that's been driven by bike thieves for the last 2 years?

    as a cyclist, this fills me with rage.


    captain yesterday wrote:
    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    I think Captain just prefers to have his feet firmly planted on a solid surface. (with no un-solid surface immediately beneath that solid surface. )
    That sounds about right.

    I can appreciate wanting something solid underfoot, canoes just seem an odd exception to that desire. I've been on more than a few boats, and I can tell ya the smaller they are the less solid the footing.

    Of course it also depends on what the water is doing.

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