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Well, technically I should be writing up a pair of obituaries from Sunday's game, but, "Failed their save against Wail of the Banshee" is hardly an exciting obit, and I can't add much more without spoilering Shiro's game, which he doesn't want me doing.

But Trig (my rogue) and Alembic (the sorcerer) failed their saves, and Forth (of course, because no obit is complete without him) used Paladin's Sacrifice to save Alembic (with the utterly hilarious justification that, "He's our ride home! Without him we'd be stuck in the wilderness for the next two weeks!").

So Forth and Trig died again.

I proposed to the group that I retire Trig because she's reached nigh-uselessness at this point (her main combat tactic is now putting Bit of Luck on the melee characters to turn them into murder machines), but everyone likes the way I roleplay her so much they don't mind having one hand tied behind their backs during combat.

Ah, well. Expect more obits soon, and hopefully ones that are a little more entertaining and less, "Oh, by the way..."

EDIT: In the meantime, allow me to entertain you...


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Clearly, we have different definitions of entertaining.

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Just a Mort wrote:

Yeah that's going to get problems 2-3 months down the road.

I don't think the black pepper chicken pizza was a flop, it turns out more like a doner kebab except it was on pizza dough. Pizza dough turned out a bit soggy due to loading too much chicken with its oils. Also since we're not fans of raw vegetables we didn't put anything but red bell peppers on it.

My mom told me to use up the black pepper she stashed in the fridge, so the black pepper chicken pizza was born. Yes, I dumped one quarter a bottle of black pepper onto 4 chicken thighs, with salt and oyster sauce. I suppose it could use a bit more salt but after the sliced chicken soaked up the juices it was fine.

Running out of Cheddar cheese in the fridge, I was supposed to use it before it expires end April, we're at 7 slices left. Each use of pizza takes up 4. I'll switch to mozarella after that,or go cheeseless with a crazy pizza experiment involving cucumber and carrot strips cooked in Thai chilli sauce, and toasted Taw kwa as pizza toppings.

My mom told me to find a way to use up the chilli sauce.

Kebab pizza is so popular here you can just order it from the big franses. Garlic sauce and all.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Tell me it turned into a five nights at freddy's style adventure.

Did Five Nights At Freddy's end with oral hanky panky in the back seat of her parent's car parked behind a church.

If so, then yes, yes it was.


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Big frances? Is that a chain restaurant?

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LordSynos wrote:
Morning Every-FaWtL! Hope everyone is well today, and has a good day ahead of them. :) I also hope everyone had great weekend, managed to recharge the batteries for the week ahead. :)

Thank you :)

I am feeling a lot better.
Sadly, MrT is very ill at the moment. He has a recurring infection, that even though treatable with antibiotics, just comes back in a while. Its one of the risks/added burdens of Diabeties. I hope he perks up in a few days.


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Woran wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Morning Every-FaWtL! Hope everyone is well today, and has a good day ahead of them. :) I also hope everyone had great weekend, managed to recharge the batteries for the week ahead. :)

Thank you :)

I am feeling a lot better.
Sadly, MrT is very ill at the moment. He has a recurring infection, that even though treatable with antibiotics, just comes back in a while. Its one of the risks/added burdens of Diabeties. I hope he perks up in a few days.

I'm sorry he is ill! I hope he heals up!


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NobodysHome wrote:

Well, technically I should be writing up a pair of obituaries from Sunday's game, but, "Failed their save against Wail of the Banshee" is hardly an exciting obit, and I can't add much more without spoilering Shiro's game, which he doesn't want me doing.

But Trig (my rogue) and Alembic (the sorcerer) failed their saves, and Forth (of course, because no obit is complete without him) used Paladin's Sacrifice to save Alembic (with the utterly hilarious justification that, "He's our ride home! Without him we'd be stuck in the wilderness for the next two weeks!").

So Forth and Trig died again.

I proposed to the group that I retire Trig because she's reached nigh-uselessness at this point (her main combat tactic is now putting Bit of Luck on the melee characters to turn them into murder machines), but everyone likes the way I roleplay her so much they don't mind having one hand tied behind their backs during combat.

Ah, well. Expect more obits soon, and hopefully ones that are a little more entertaining and less, "Oh, by the way..."

EDIT: In the meantime, allow me to entertain you...

You moved from cosplaying Joakim to cosplaying Robbie Williams?


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Ugh, I am going to a gaming session... So it rains. And thunder just rocked.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Big frances? Is that a chain restaurant?

Pretty sure she meant "big franchises".


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Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Big frances? Is that a chain restaurant?
Pretty sure she meant "big franchises".

do'h!


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It feels like I twisted my ankle here at work. Walking is painful.


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Why is Chuck E Cheese so objectionable?


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Sorry guys for if sometimes I add a dark, disruptive tone to this thread, I'm not doing it on purpose just talking about my life or whatever.

It's like you're trying to enjoy Chuck E. Cheeses and one of your friends starts talking about the holocaust, like dude, what are you doing?

Apparently that's what passes for day to day small talk in my world, sorry =(


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I didn't find anything dark or disruptive.


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Limeylongears wrote:
Why is Chuck E Cheese so objectionable?

Every one of them is blaringly loud. I've been to some serious rock concerts that don't leave me with as much hearing damage as going to a Chuck E Cheese.

Oh, also the pizza is crap.

And also, well, 40-100 children running around screaming like it's a school playground is fine on a school playground. Put a concrete or tile floor under them, a metal ceiling above them, and put some walls in and it's no longer fine, because, besides the loudness already mentioned, there is nowhere you can go without being ran over by children who have no concept of being headbutted in the genitals from a small child running at full speed.


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Captain Yesterday, FaWtL 6 News wrote:
I didn't find anything dark or disruptive.

Alright, well that's good.


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Yuugasa wrote:

Sorry guys for if sometimes I add a dark, disruptive tone to this thread, I'm not doing it on purpose just talking about my life or whatever.

It's like you're trying to enjoy Chuck E. Cheeses and one of your friends starts talking about the holocaust, like dude, what are you doing?

Apparently that's what passes for day to day small talk in my world, sorry =(

You were talking about an event in your life that you needed to talk about. Not every event is rainbows and unicorn farts. Talking about abortion in the political sense is a definite no-no, but talking about it as a factual event that happened in your family...as long as a political argument didn't erupt out of it I think you're good.

Usually Cap is our unofficial hall monitor (but official if Fritzy makes an appearance) on what's too much politically-speaking, and usually I'm one of the ones that's making comments/jokes of a political nature.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Morning Every-FaWtL! Hope everyone is well today, and has a good day ahead of them. :) I also hope everyone had great weekend, managed to recharge the batteries for the week ahead. :)

Thank you :)

I am feeling a lot better.
Sadly, MrT is very ill at the moment. He has a recurring infection, that even though treatable with antibiotics, just comes back in a while. Its one of the risks/added burdens of Diabeties. I hope he perks up in a few days.
I'm sorry he is ill! I hope he heals up!

I second this, I hope he feels much better soon.


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Grampy General has been going off all morning about how cows are responsible for global warming.

Or at least, we can prevent further global degradation by eliminating all cattle and go with plant synthetic proteins.


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Limeylongears wrote:
Why is Chuck E Cheese so objectionable?

It was different times (the 90s), you had to try your darndest to up the irony.


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Limeylongears wrote:
Why is Chuck E Cheese so objectionable?

There's a joke I saw circulating about Chuck. E. Cheese:

"Come eat our pizza. Everything is visibly dirty, and our mascot is literally a rat."


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Limeylongears wrote:
Why is Chuck E Cheese so objectionable?

Imagine a marketing team getting together and holding a cynical brainstorming session: "What can we do to lure in cheapskate parents and then cynically extract every possible penny from them?"

So, start off with cheap party packages that offer, quite literally, the worst pizza I have ever had. Worse than any pizza place. Worse than frozen. Worse than any other game place or movie theater. Worse than my kids' school cafeteria. Serious, "I could give this to a starving homeless man and he would spit it on the ground," pizza.

Next, lots and lots and LOTS of sugary drinks, because syrup is cheap and you want to keep the kids energetic. Then tons and tons and tons of noise, lights, sirens, music, and anything else to blast the senses. Because desensitized adults and overstimulated kids will result in the adults doing anything to reduce the stimulus level. And of course, everything costs more money. The games, the sodas, the music; it's all cash money out of your pocket.

Finally, the clientele. Google "Fight at Chuck E. Cheese" and marvel. Because gee, parents under those circumstances snap. Frequently. Parents who choose Chuck E. Cheese in the first place have questionable judgement. Put a bunch of them in the same giant room and overstimulate them and altercations will occur.

I've been to a Chuck E. Cheese twice in my life, both times against my will, and I hope never to return.

The single-most-amazing thing to me: The staff members were all uniformly friendly, polite, and honestly helpful. I think they just get earplugs and blinders and pity the poor parents having to deal with the monstrosity they work for.


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What's funny is that after typing all that up and seeing everyone else's posts being about hanging around there as teenagers, I realize it's a near-perfect teen hangout: The noise, lights, and screaming kids are enough cover to get away with almost anything, and teenagers' "eat anything" ability would allow them to stomach the cheap, plentiful, and otherwise-inedible food...


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NobodysHome wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:
Why is Chuck E Cheese so objectionable?

Imagine a marketing team getting together and holding a cynical brainstorming session: "What can we do to lure in cheapskate parents and then cynically extract every possible penny from them?"

So, start off with cheap party packages that offer, quite literally, the worst pizza I have ever had. Worse than any pizza place. Worse than frozen. Worse than any other game place or movie theater. Worse than my kids' school cafeteria. Serious, "I could give this to a starving homeless man and he would spit it on the ground," pizza.

Next, lots and lots and LOTS of sugary drinks, because syrup is cheap and you want to keep the kids energetic. Then tons and tons and tons of noise, lights, sirens, music, and anything else to blast the senses. Because desensitized adults and overstimulated kids will result in the adults doing anything to reduce the stimulus level. And of course, everything costs more money. The games, the sodas, the music; it's all cash money out of your pocket.

Finally, the clientele. Google "Fight at Chuck E. Cheese" and marvel. Because gee, parents under those circumstances snap. Frequently. Parents who choose Chuck E. Cheese in the first place have questionable judgement. Put a bunch of them in the same giant room and overstimulate them and altercations will occur.

I've been to a Chuck E. Cheese twice in my life, both times against my will, and I hope never to return.

The single-most-amazing thing to me: The staff members were all uniformly friendly, polite, and honestly helpful. I think they just get earplugs and blinders and pity the poor parents having to deal with the monstrosity they work for.

Everything he said, but I reiterate from my own entry on this subject: Small children running full speed, headbutting you in the genitals with every step you take.

Also, those of us of a certain vintage may also remember that there was a competitor to ol' Chuck back in the 80's called Showbiz Pizza. It was *exactly* the same as Chuck E Cheese, only they used a bear mascot instead of a rat. It wasn't any better, other than for the part Scint pointed out.


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NobodysHome wrote:

What's funny is that after typing all that up and seeing everyone else's posts being about hanging around there as teenagers, I realize it's a near-perfect teen hangout: The noise, lights, and screaming kids are enough cover to get away with almost anything, and teenagers' "eat anything" ability would allow them to stomach the cheap, plentiful, and otherwise-inedible food...

That is true.


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Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

What's funny is that after typing all that up and seeing everyone else's posts being about hanging around there as teenagers, I realize it's a near-perfect teen hangout: The noise, lights, and screaming kids are enough cover to get away with almost anything, and teenagers' "eat anything" ability would allow them to stomach the cheap, plentiful, and otherwise-inedible food...

That is true.

indeed.

I have also heard from two separate sources(one semi reliable, one completely unreliable) it is THE place to go to(possibly work at?) if you are a comparatively young man who enjoys brief intimate interludes with older women.


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captain yesterday wrote:

Grampy General has been going off all morning about how cows are responsible for global warming.

Or at least, we can prevent further global degradation by eliminating all cattle and go with plant synthetic proteins.

Without intending to up the political quotient to this...

Yeah, he might be overstating it some, but he's not inherently wrong. Cattle farms do add significantly to global warming.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

What's funny is that after typing all that up and seeing everyone else's posts being about hanging around there as teenagers, I realize it's a near-perfect teen hangout: The noise, lights, and screaming kids are enough cover to get away with almost anything, and teenagers' "eat anything" ability would allow them to stomach the cheap, plentiful, and otherwise-inedible food...

That is true.

indeed.

I have also heard from two separate sources(one semi reliable, one completely unreliable) it is THE place to go to(possibly work at?) if you are a comparatively young man who enjoys brief intimate interludes with older women.

I can neither confirm nor deny these allegations. No, seriously, I literally can't. I have not had that kind of experience at a Chuck E Cheese at any point in my life, and I feel I am probably a richer man for it.


NobodysHome wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:
Why is Chuck E Cheese so objectionable?

Imagine a marketing team getting together and holding a cynical brainstorming session: "What can we do to lure in cheapskate parents and then cynically extract every possible penny from them?"

So, start off with cheap party packages that offer, quite literally, the worst pizza I have ever had. Worse than any pizza place. Worse than frozen. Worse than any other game place or movie theater. Worse than my kids' school cafeteria. Serious, "I could give this to a starving homeless man and he would spit it on the ground," pizza.

Next, lots and lots and LOTS of sugary drinks, because syrup is cheap and you want to keep the kids energetic. Then tons and tons and tons of noise, lights, sirens, music, and anything else to blast the senses. Because desensitized adults and overstimulated kids will result in the adults doing anything to reduce the stimulus level. And of course, everything costs more money. The games, the sodas, the music; it's all cash money out of your pocket.

Finally, the clientele. Google "Fight at Chuck E. Cheese" and marvel. Because gee, parents under those circumstances snap. Frequently. Parents who choose Chuck E. Cheese in the first place have questionable judgement. Put a bunch of them in the same giant room and overstimulate them and altercations will occur.

I've been to a Chuck E. Cheese twice in my life, both times against my will, and I hope never to return.

The single-most-amazing thing to me: The staff members were all uniformly friendly, polite, and honestly helpful. I think they just get earplugs and blinders and pity the poor parents having to deal with the monstrosity they work for.

(Also Vany's)

To mitigate (but not exactly "counter" - more like "temper") this:

1) it is not the worst pizza I've ever had, but it's entirely unexciting, and it's just kind of disappointing, especially for the price

2) man, I have no idea what CC's (not Cici's, that place is pretty okay), but it is not nearly so loud and noisy as any concert (and, fortuitously, lacks any actual cartoons constantly blaring)

3) the headbutting thing is kind of terrible; yeah, that'd put me off

4) everything is overpriced

Scintillae wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:
Why is Chuck E Cheese so objectionable?

There's a joke I saw circulating about Chuck. E. Cheese:

"Come eat our pizza. Everything is visibly dirty, and our mascot is literally a rat."

Ours must be really clean in comparison. And I live in Florida. Your people really gotta step up their game, Scint.

Vanykrye wrote:
Also, those of us of a certain vintage may also remember that there was a competitor to ol' Chuck back in the 80's called Showbiz Pizza. It was *exactly* the same as Chuck E Cheese, only they used a bear mascot instead of a rat. It wasn't any better, other than for the part Scint pointed out.

Hey! Showbiz was much better! Not only was it not visibly dirty, it was much less expensive that CC's! Like, 2/3s the price! (Which, let's be clear, was still too expensive.)

As an aside, if you've ever wondered where games like Five Nights at Freddy's get their inspiration, it's a combination of Showbiz and Chuck E. Cheese's. Those animatronics were pretty horrifying.


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Vanykrye wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Grampy General has been going off all morning about how cows are responsible for global warming.

Or at least, we can prevent further global degradation by eliminating all cattle and go with plant synthetic proteins.

Without intending to up the political quotient to this...

Yeah, he might be overstating it some, but he's not inherently wrong. Cattle farms do add significantly to global warming.

On the other hand, you're a dragon, I'm a lion, and they are literally meat. I mean, come on.

This is at least partially facetious.


Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

What's funny is that after typing all that up and seeing everyone else's posts being about hanging around there as teenagers, I realize it's a near-perfect teen hangout: The noise, lights, and screaming kids are enough cover to get away with almost anything, and teenagers' "eat anything" ability would allow them to stomach the cheap, plentiful, and otherwise-inedible food...

That is true.

indeed.

I have also heard from two separate sources(one semi reliable, one completely unreliable) it is THE place to go to(possibly work at?) if you are a comparatively young man who enjoys brief intimate interludes with older women.

I can neither confirm nor deny these allegations. No, seriously, I literally can't. I have not had that kind of experience at a Chuck E Cheese at any point in my life, and I feel I am probably a richer man for it.

Yeah, I'm with the literal flame dragon who's on fire, with this one.


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Vanykrye wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Grampy General has been going off all morning about how cows are responsible for global warming.

Or at least, we can prevent further global degradation by eliminating all cattle and go with plant synthetic proteins.

Without intending to up the political quotient to this...

Yeah, he might be overstating it some, but he's not inherently wrong. Cattle farms do add significantly to global warming.

Alternately: SLAUGHTER THE SACRED COWS?! HE WANTS TO REENACT FOUR EE ALL OVER AGAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Man your stations! Don't back down! Don't fear! The edition wars II may be upon us, but, by all that exists, we shall show them our STEEL~!

Which, incidentally, contributes to global warming.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Grampy General has been going off all morning about how cows are responsible for global warming.

Or at least, we can prevent further global degradation by eliminating all cattle and go with plant synthetic proteins.

Without intending to up the political quotient to this...

Yeah, he might be overstating it some, but he's not inherently wrong. Cattle farms do add significantly to global warming.

On the other hand, you're a dragon, I'm a lion, and they are literally meat. I mean, come on.

This is at least partially facetious.

Oh, I'm definitely adding to the demand that keeps those farmers in business; I will continue to do so.


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Today's Silly Rules Questions: Wands and Spellcraft (Because FaWtL is better than the Rules forum)

So, Spellcraft lets you "identify a spell as it is being cast", but a wand is a spell-trigger activation item, meaning that, "No gestures or spell finishing is required, just... a single word that must be spoken."

I've also read a lot of fooferal on the boards that all spells have obvious visible effects (specifically to prevent doing things like casting a Silent Still Charm Person at the dinner table), but I find nothing like that in the Core Rulebook.

So,
Question #1: Does anyone have a reference to "all spells are obvious, even silent still ones?"

Question #2: Can you use Spellcraft to identify a spell coming out of a wand?

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Woran wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:

Yeah that's going to get problems 2-3 months down the road.

I don't think the black pepper chicken pizza was a flop, it turns out more like a doner kebab except it was on pizza dough. Pizza dough turned out a bit soggy due to loading too much chicken with its oils. Also since we're not fans of raw vegetables we didn't put anything but red bell peppers on it.

My mom told me to use up the black pepper she stashed in the fridge, so the black pepper chicken pizza was born. Yes, I dumped one quarter a bottle of black pepper onto 4 chicken thighs, with salt and oyster sauce. I suppose it could use a bit more salt but after the sliced chicken soaked up the juices it was fine.

Running out of Cheddar cheese in the fridge, I was supposed to use it before it expires end April, we're at 7 slices left. Each use of pizza takes up 4. I'll switch to mozarella after that,or go cheeseless with a crazy pizza experiment involving cucumber and carrot strips cooked in Thai chilli sauce, and toasted Taw kwa as pizza toppings.

My mom told me to find a way to use up the chilli sauce.

Kebab pizza is so popular here you can just order it from the big franses. Garlic sauce and all.

It's uncommon here. Apparently there's this one stall you can go to get it. But yeah, cultural differences. Do not expect everything you can find here to be found in other places, and vice versa. Like I haven't found a Cambodian amok here yet.

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NobodysHome wrote:

Today's Silly Rules Questions: Wands and Spellcraft (Because FaWtL is better than the Rules forum)

So, Spellcraft lets you "identify a spell as it is being cast", but a wand is a spell-trigger activation item, meaning that, "No gestures or spell finishing is required, just... a single word that must be spoken."

I've also read a lot of fooferal on the boards that all spells have obvious visible effects (specifically to prevent doing things like casting a Silent Still Charm Person at the dinner table), but I find nothing like that in the Core Rulebook.

So,
Question #1: Does anyone have a reference to "all spells are obvious, even silent still ones?"

Question #2: Can you use Spellcraft to identify a spell coming out of a wand?

#1 Actually I'd make spellcraft not work on silent and still spells but that's a houserule. Because spells - no one ever said what effects there would be. Who knows it may cause temperature fluctuations, or in the case of stinking clouds, bad farts. Yes, I ever came across a wizard who's spellcasting for stinking cloud would be to turn around showing his @ss to the bad guys and fart.

#2 yes. Imagine all those casting graphics in WOW/Everquest etc. You can still see them and identify what the other guy is casting.

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Vanykrye wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Grampy General has been going off all morning about how cows are responsible for global warming.

Or at least, we can prevent further global degradation by eliminating all cattle and go with plant synthetic proteins.

Without intending to up the political quotient to this...

Yeah, he might be overstating it some, but he's not inherently wrong. Cattle farms do add significantly to global warming.

I've tried to cut down my beef consumption for that. Not that I eat much in the first place because of my house has a no beef in da house law. But I can't say no to dairy...

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Sorry to hear that Mr T isn't feeling well. Is he taking diabetes medicines and is he uhh out of shape? I've heard of people managing to cut their blood sugar levels and blood pressure levels by exercising more.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Today's Silly Rules Questions: Wands and Spellcraft (Because FaWtL is better than the Rules forum)

So, Spellcraft lets you "identify a spell as it is being cast", but a wand is a spell-trigger activation item, meaning that, "No gestures or spell finishing is required, just... a single word that must be spoken."

I've also read a lot of fooferal on the boards that all spells have obvious visible effects (specifically to prevent doing things like casting a Silent Still Charm Person at the dinner table), but I find nothing like that in the Core Rulebook.

So,
Question #1: Does anyone have a reference to "all spells are obvious, even silent still ones?"

Question #2: Can you use Spellcraft to identify a spell coming out of a wand?

1) That was not in the rules until some devs decided it should be in the rules, then some FAQs came out that said that was the rule, and then they made additional feats to circumvent those rules in Ultimate Intrigue.

This one is a sore spot for me - much of that book feels like they retroactively created rules that didn't previously exist and pretended like they existed all along. As far as I'm concerned, a silent still charm person and timely bluff checks at the dinner table is the whole reason why the evil vizier is the power behind the throne in the first place. The rest of that "obvious enamations" or "glowing hands" or "sparkles through the air" that makes it obvious that person cast a spell, even with all components negated...apouiwehbgaowedrnabkl;fna;sdjga';sdj;osh;alfmnawq

2) Spellcraft is the only skill that makes any sense at all. It doesn't fall under Knowledge Arcana unless the spell is already ongoing or it just targeted you, at which point your question is moot, you've already failed your save and lives have been ruined.

Now, the problem with that idea is that someone would obviously take it to the next step of "Ok, what about a potion someone is in the act of bringing to their mouth?" And I'd obviously have to say no to that one, as that's identifying a magic item, and that's really no different than a wand. Identifying magic items takes 3 rounds with a spellcraft check and detect magic or identify.

So I'd have to go with a no on this one, and you know I'm not one to generally restrict things as a DM.


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Tonight at HEMA a lady came over to teach us smallsword, and WWII unarmed combat, so on the one hand, you have Sgt. DuckPinch and his Filthy Fifteen breaking the necks of German sentries, while on the other hand, the Marquis of Twinkleton is fighting a duel to determine the proper number of curls on a gentleman's court wig.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Ours must be really clean in comparison. And I live in Florida. Your people really gotta step up their game, Scint.

Oh, it was just something I saw circulating on Imgur. I've not been to a Chuck E. Cheese since I was, like, eight.


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Freehold DM wrote:

indeed.

I have also heard from two separate sources(one semi reliable, one completely unreliable) it is THE place to go to(possibly work at?) if you are a comparatively young man who enjoys brief intimate interludes with older women.

That is weird to me, I can't imagine Chuck E Cheeses ever putting anyone into a sexy mood, but then again, strange things happen in the ninth circle of hell.


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captain yesterday wrote:

Grampy General has been going off all morning about how cows are responsible for global warming.

Or at least, we can prevent further global degradation by eliminating all cattle and go with plant synthetic proteins.

Is this one of those "only in Wisconsin" things?

Because I remember a lot of talk like that back in the 80's... cow farts = methane = depletion of the ozone layer.
In fact, we had a school assembly when I was in like 4th grade (so 1983-84) where two WI Dept. of Natural Resources employees with guitars came and sang us some ridiculously cornball songs about environmental topics. One was actually about cow farts, cow pies, and the polar ice caps. Very glad that I've managed to block out the precise wording.


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Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Today's Silly Rules Questions: Wands and Spellcraft (Because FaWtL is better than the Rules forum)

So, Spellcraft lets you "identify a spell as it is being cast", but a wand is a spell-trigger activation item, meaning that, "No gestures or spell finishing is required, just... a single word that must be spoken."

I've also read a lot of fooferal on the boards that all spells have obvious visible effects (specifically to prevent doing things like casting a Silent Still Charm Person at the dinner table), but I find nothing like that in the Core Rulebook.

So,
Question #1: Does anyone have a reference to "all spells are obvious, even silent still ones?"

Question #2: Can you use Spellcraft to identify a spell coming out of a wand?

1) That was not in the rules until some devs decided it should be in the rules, then some FAQs came out that said that was the rule, and then they made additional feats to circumvent those rules in Ultimate Intrigue.

This one is a sore spot for me - much of that book feels like they retroactively created rules that didn't previously exist and pretended like they existed all along. As far as I'm concerned, a silent still charm person and timely bluff checks at the dinner table is the whole reason why the evil vizier is the power behind the throne in the first place. The rest of that "obvious enamations" or "glowing hands" or "sparkles through the air" that makes it obvious that person cast a spell, even with all components negated...apouiwehbgaowedrnabkl;fna;sdjga';sdj;osh;alfmnawq

2) Spellcraft is the only skill that makes any sense at all. It doesn't fall under Knowledge Arcana unless the spell is already ongoing or it just targeted you, at which point your question is moot, you've already failed your save and lives have been ruined.

Now, the problem with that idea is that someone would obviously take it to the next step of "Ok, what about a potion someone...

interesting, vany.

The way we interpreted this in game(silent still spell with no offensive effects) was like seeing heat waves emanating from asphalt on a hot summer day. You barely see anything, and it takes work to see it(DC to detect it was higher by 5 or 10 or so...not sure which as the DM never told us) and even more work to convince someone else that you did(higher DC to convince someone a spell has just been cast via diplomacy).


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There is nothing, NOTHING like spending an hour and a half after work making a 10x13 pan of enchiladas and having your son cry, actually sob and wail like his dog just died, because it's "disgusting" and he's so hungry.
So I gave him the last of the leftover udon from last Wednesday, and that's disgusting as well, and then I cleaned the kitchen and I'm sulking in my room.
For the record, they were really darned good. So was the udon. Val is a booger and he deserves Chuck-e-Cheese. He'd probably like it. I swear, I am THIS CLOSE to buying some old MRE's on ebay so the next time he whines about the food being disgusting, I can take it away and give him an MRE instead. or C-Rations.


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lisamarlene wrote:

There is nothing, NOTHING like spending an hour and a half after work making a 10x13 pan of enchiladas and having your son cry, actually sob and wail like his dog just died, because it's "disgusting" and he's so hungry.

So I gave him the last of the leftover udon from last Wednesday, and that's disgusting as well, and then I cleaned the kitchen and I'm sulking in my room.
For the record, they were really darned good. So was the udon. Val is a booger and he deserves Chuck-e-Cheese. He'd probably like it. I swear, I am THIS CLOSE to buying some old MRE's on ebay so the next time he whines about the food being disgusting, I can take it away and give him an MRE instead. or C-Rations.

have you heard of this guy?

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lisamarlene wrote:

There is nothing, NOTHING like spending an hour and a half after work making a 10x13 pan of enchiladas and having your son cry, actually sob and wail like his dog just died, because it's "disgusting" and he's so hungry.

So I gave him the last of the leftover udon from last Wednesday, and that's disgusting as well, and then I cleaned the kitchen and I'm sulking in my room.
For the record, they were really darned good. So was the udon. Val is a booger and he deserves Chuck-e-Cheese. He'd probably like it. I swear, I am THIS CLOSE to buying some old MRE's on ebay so the next time he whines about the food being disgusting, I can take it away and give him an MRE instead. or C-Rations.

I think he's been too spoiled with all the delicious stuff you've been cooking for him. Do you wanna bet if you got some fries, he'd eat those in a hurry? I don't know what's with kids and junk food, honestly.

And if he complains that much, yeah either he can go hungry or he can get MRE or C-rations.

Or maybe you can turn it into a cooking lesson if he's of age. Fridge's there, eggs are there. Time you learnt how to fry eggs.

Though I suspect if you gave me MREs or C-rations, I wouldn't bat an eyelash and just would gobble it anyway...


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Val doesn't eat fries; he thinks of them more as a ketchup-delivery device.


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Freehold DM wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:

There is nothing, NOTHING like spending an hour and a half after work making a 10x13 pan of enchiladas and having your son cry, actually sob and wail like his dog just died, because it's "disgusting" and he's so hungry.

So I gave him the last of the leftover udon from last Wednesday, and that's disgusting as well, and then I cleaned the kitchen and I'm sulking in my room.
For the record, they were really darned good. So was the udon. Val is a booger and he deserves Chuck-e-Cheese. He'd probably like it. I swear, I am THIS CLOSE to buying some old MRE's on ebay so the next time he whines about the food being disgusting, I can take it away and give him an MRE instead. or C-Rations.
have you heard of this guy?

That is so scary.

Less weird when you see he's from central Florida.

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