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Heh. Naked weightlifting for TotP. That could be dangerous. O.o


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Heh. Naked weightlifting for TotP. That could be dangerous. O.o

depends on who is nekkid and what lifts are being done to determine the hazard rating, plus it determines who is working out or just staring.


Woodraven wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Heh. Naked weightlifting for TotP. That could be dangerous. O.o
depends on who is nekkid and what lifts are being done to determine the hazard rating, plus it determines who is working out or just staring.

well, I was nekkid in the sauna about 20 mins after that post, so I guess that counts for something...

Silver Crusade

100 degrees here in Joplin, MO, and headed into hotter temperatures in the southwest. Ugh.


Wups.


Celestial Healer wrote:
100 degrees here in Joplin, MO, and headed into hotter temperatures in the southwest. Ugh.

How is Joplin looking? We donated a small truckload of unsold furniture to the folks there, including a bunch of cribs. I heard they needed anything and everything.

Silver Crusade

Treppa wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
100 degrees here in Joplin, MO, and headed into hotter temperatures in the southwest. Ugh.
How is Joplin looking? We donated a small truckload of unsold furniture to the folks there, including a bunch of cribs. I heard they needed anything and everything.

We stopped there for a Starbucks. In much of the city, it has a business-as-usual feel. Heading back onto the interstate, we wound up driving right across the path of the tornado. Very apocalyptic (and heartbreaking). It's a mess.


We heard people crawled out of their basements and didn't even realize it was their neighborhood, because everything was just gone - houses, trees, signs, stoplights -- everything.

Scarab Sages

Mrgh.

Liberty's Edge

Hi all.

Tired today, bad night with the kids last night.

It was raining all night, the five year old woke up at about 2.30 scared of the rain (he was worried it would flood). Him waking up and calling out woke up the baby, took us a few hours to get them both settled again ... by the time I got back to sleep I had to be up in about an hour and a half.

Silver Crusade

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Oooooooook-lahoma where the wind goes sweeping down the plain...

That song will be in my head until sometime tomorrow afternoon.

We're in Tulsa, and I am taking Jess Door's advice and eating some Blue Bell ice cream. Very good.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Mothman wrote:

Hi all.

Tired today, bad night with the kids last night.

It was raining all night, the five year old woke up at about 2.30 scared of the rain (he was worried it would flood). Him waking up and calling out woke up the baby, took us a few hours to get them both settled again ... by the time I got back to sleep I had to be up in about an hour and a half.

Sorry to hear that, MM.


Damn, CH, you might as well just swing through Big D on your way.


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Sometimes, you just have to wash down your potato chips with chardonnay. Like, right now.


Celestial Healer wrote:

Oooooooook-lahoma where the wind goes sweeping down the plain...

That song will be in my head until sometime tomorrow afternoon.

We're in Tulsa, and I am taking Jess Door's advice and eating some Blue Bell ice cream. Very good.

Oklahoma's really nice. Weird though, with all the casinos....

Whelp, staycation from hell over.

Few days ago, big water leak, big plumbing bill, then the a.c. cut off this morning; needed a "capacitor" which wasn't that bad.

Just nothing I wanted to f&$# with on my "staycation." Oh well, could be worse; I could be carrying my grandmother over a mountain in a warzone, fleeing with my donkey drawn wagon or some b*~@#### like that.....

I'm psyched though. I'm ready to stand up and duke it out with a universe that's been f+!$ing boot partying me. No head trauma, no ruptured spleen, and I'm standing.

Now it's my turn, b#&+@es!!!!!


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Sometimes, you just have to wash down your potato chips with chardonnay. Like, right now.

F!%$ that.

Gimme some grain alcohol, I'm making a molotov for plugging a bomb in everyone's ass Accept Balls to the Wall style.

Liberty's Edge

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Discovered the secret to the REALLY good rum & coke:

1) Spend the money on the good rum (I don't mean the ritzy stuff, I mean the high proof stuff)
2) Buy Coca-cola bottled in Mexico (usually in the international foods aisle). It's made with sugar instead of HFCS. And the sugar and rum is just ... well, let's just say I'll be in my bunk.


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Sometimes, you just have to wash down your potato chips with chardonnay. Like, right now.

F&*# that.

Gimme some grain alcohol, I'm making a molotov for plugging a bomb in everyone's ass Accept Balls to the Wall style.

I'll be happy to enjoy my chips and chardonnay while you ass bomb the worthy. Cheers!


Ashe Ravenheart wrote:

Discovered the secret to the REALLY good rum & coke:

1) Spend the money on the good rum (I don't mean the ritzy stuff, I mean the high proof stuff)
2) Buy Coca-cola bottled in Mexico (usually in the international foods aisle). It's made with sugar instead of HFCS. And the sugar and rum is just ... well, let's just say I'll be in my bunk.

What is high proof for rum? Goslings Black Seal is my label. +1 on the Mexican Coke. You can get real sugar Dr. Pepper here in Texas, too.


Well, I baked my PIEs, and now I'm off to bed.

Good night, all!

Liberty's Edge

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Well, I baked my PIEs, and now I'm off to bed.

Good night, all!

Good night!

Liberty's Edge

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

Oooooooook-lahoma where the wind goes sweeping down the plain...

That song will be in my head until sometime tomorrow afternoon.

We're in Tulsa, and I am taking Jess Door's advice and eating some Blue Bell ice cream. Very good.

Oklahoma's really nice. Weird though, with all the casinos....

Whelp, staycation from hell over.

Few days ago, big water leak, big plumbing bill, then the a.c. cut off this morning; needed a "capacitor" which wasn't that bad.

Just nothing I wanted to f@#$ with on my "staycation." Oh well, could be worse; I could be carrying my grandmother over a mountain in a warzone, fleeing with my donkey drawn wagon or some b#&$!*+! like that.....

I'm psyched though. I'm ready to stand up and duke it out with a universe that's been f$#+ing boot partying me. No head trauma, no ruptured spleen, and I'm standing.

Now it's my turn, b*%%!es!!!!!

Sorry your time off wasn't more relaxing man.

Liberty's Edge

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Ashe Ravenheart wrote:

Discovered the secret to the REALLY good rum & coke:

1) Spend the money on the good rum (I don't mean the ritzy stuff, I mean the high proof stuff)
2) Buy Coca-cola bottled in Mexico (usually in the international foods aisle). It's made with sugar instead of HFCS. And the sugar and rum is just ... well, let's just say I'll be in my bunk.

What is high proof for rum? Goslings Black Seal is my label. +1 on the Mexican Coke. You can get real sugar Dr. Pepper here in Texas, too.

Well, I didn't go over-proof, but I got at least 100 proof.


Rant:

Spoiler:
While I understand that different generations have different POVs, I cannot understand the laissez-faire attitude of my 21 and 23 yr old sons. Everything seems to be 'what are you worked up about?' Money, work, general responsibilities. My wife enables them on some of this, and I'm tired of shouldering the stress.


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I need rum.


The PIE is ENnie PIE.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.


Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.

Tried and failed. Momma bear problem with the one who's 'finding himself', and the younger is in college full-time so I cut him more slack. The attitude and lack of appreciation is what gets me. When I get to the point where I say anything it tuns into an argument. Saying 'there's the door' sets my wife off. *sigh*

Liberty's Edge

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Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.

Nothing makes you appreciate money, time, and effort more than being broke. I second Callous Jack's proposal.

Liberty's Edge

Emperor7 wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Tried and failed. Momma bear problem with the one who's 'finding himself', and the younger is in college full-time so I cut him more slack. The attitude and lack of appreciation is what gets me. When I get to the point where I say anything it tuns into an argument. Saying 'there's the door' sets my wife off. *sigh*

How are they ever going to act like men if they keep getting babied? X_X

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Studpuffin wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Tried and failed. Momma bear problem with the one who's 'finding himself', and the younger is in college full-time so I cut him more slack. The attitude and lack of appreciation is what gets me. When I get to the point where I say anything it tuns into an argument. Saying 'there's the door' sets my wife off. *sigh*
How are they ever going to act like men if they keep getting babied? X_X

I agree. At 23, I bought my own car and wasn't too far from buying my own condo.


Sorry to hear about the grating issues, E7. For what it is worth, take comfort in the fact that the world will teach these lessons, no matter how your wife's intervention postpone them. There maybe some lessons that they just have to learn directly. I hope that this burden being transferred back to you may be lessened through some frank communication.


Studpuffin wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Nothing makes you appreciate money, time, and effort more than being broke. I second Callous Jack's proposal.

It's so foreign to me. Promises, signatures on credit cards, earning your own way mean nothing to them. *sigh* My 26 year old finally got a clue about a year ago but I still worry about him from time to time, but at least he's making progress.

The fact that the world basically works on daylight hours means nothing to their desire to stay up 'til 5 am and sleep 'til 3 pm. So foreign to me.


Uh-oh, Rone said the word...

Liberty's Edge

Emperor7 wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Nothing makes you appreciate money, time, and effort more than being broke. I second Callous Jack's proposal.

It's so foreign to me. Promises, signatures on credit cards, earning your own way mean nothing to them. *sigh* My 26 year old finally got a clue about a year ago but I still worry about him from time to time, but at least he's making progress.

The fact that the world basically works on daylight hours means nothing to their desire to stay up 'til 5 am and sleep 'til 3 pm. So foreign to me.

You got a lifetime behind you. They're not gonna change overnight. As they get older, I'm sure they're going to find themselves thinking more and more like you. :)


KAGEMATSU!!!


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Sorry to hear about the grating issues, E7. For what it is worth, take comfort in the fact that the world will teach these lessons, no matter how your wife's intervention postpone them. There maybe some lessons that they just have to learn directly. I hope that this burden being transferred back to you may be lessened through some frank communication.

I wish I could be more frank. I get my buttons pushed and I lose my temper, or I respond to aggressive defenses, or the 'what's the big deal?' response sets me off. My shortcoming.

Momma bear is a big part of their laziness problem.


Callous Jack wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Tried and failed. Momma bear problem with the one who's 'finding himself', and the younger is in college full-time so I cut him more slack. The attitude and lack of appreciation is what gets me. When I get to the point where I say anything it tuns into an argument. Saying 'there's the door' sets my wife off. *sigh*
How are they ever going to act like men if they keep getting babied? X_X
I agree. At 23, I bought my own car and wasn't too far from buying my own condo.

Ahh, 23. Married, one child. Working full-time and taking classes at night. It seems so long ago. Kids were so much easier to deal with when they were little.


Emperor7 wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Sorry to hear about the grating issues, E7. For what it is worth, take comfort in the fact that the world will teach these lessons, no matter how your wife's intervention postpone them. There maybe some lessons that they just have to learn directly. I hope that this burden being transferred back to you may be lessened through some frank communication.

I wish I could be more frank. I get my buttons pushed and I lose my temper, or I respond to aggressive defenses, or the 'what's the big deal?' response sets me off. My shortcoming.

Momma bear is a big part of their laziness problem.

Do you guys have a circle of parent-friends to talk to? While everybody does family differently, these kind of maturation issues are so universal, the conversation with others besides you might be helpful perspective and support for you and momma bear.


Pathfinder Companion, Maps Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Sorry to hear about the grating issues, E7. For what it is worth, take comfort in the fact that the world will teach these lessons, no matter how your wife's intervention postpone them. There maybe some lessons that they just have to learn directly. I hope that this burden being transferred back to you may be lessened through some frank communication.

I wish I could be more frank. I get my buttons pushed and I lose my temper, or I respond to aggressive defenses, or the 'what's the big deal?' response sets me off. My shortcoming.

Momma bear is a big part of their laziness problem.

Do you guys have a circle of parent-friends to talk to? While everybody does family differently, these kind of maturation issues are so universal, the conversation with others besides you might be helpful perspective and support for you and momma bear.

I am really glad Jude is still too small to talk back.:)


Thanks for letting me rant. I'm going to try to focus on what I can control in the battle, limited as that may be.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Sorry to hear about the grating issues, E7. For what it is worth, take comfort in the fact that the world will teach these lessons, no matter how your wife's intervention postpone them. There maybe some lessons that they just have to learn directly. I hope that this burden being transferred back to you may be lessened through some frank communication.

I wish I could be more frank. I get my buttons pushed and I lose my temper, or I respond to aggressive defenses, or the 'what's the big deal?' response sets me off. My shortcoming.

Momma bear is a big part of their laziness problem.

Do you guys have a circle of parent-friends to talk to? While everybody does family differently, these kind of maturation issues are so universal, the conversation with others besides you might be helpful perspective and support for you and momma bear.

I do and will. Momma bear sees no problem raising the boys as her mom raised her brothers. (Though she'll gripe about her brothers.) Those bums lived at home way past normal, and one still sponges off of them at 51 years old. But the wife gets pissed if I point out how are sons lifestyles are similar...


Emperor7 wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Tried and failed. Momma bear problem with the one who's 'finding himself', and the younger is in college full-time so I cut him more slack. The attitude and lack of appreciation is what gets me. When I get to the point where I say anything it tuns into an argument. Saying 'there's the door' sets my wife off. *sigh*

I'm not opposed to helping out with the occasional bill, but I'm against making the kids pay rent. I realize I live in a weird part of the country and that the experiences here don't mirror those of other places, but in almost every experience I or my friends have been in, paying rent(note- NOT helping out with the bills!) usually results in a kid that simply can't afford to move out and ends up staying home longer because the bite being taken out of their check eclipses the amount of money they would need to actually move out.


Callous Jack wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Tried and failed. Momma bear problem with the one who's 'finding himself', and the younger is in college full-time so I cut him more slack. The attitude and lack of appreciation is what gets me. When I get to the point where I say anything it tuns into an argument. Saying 'there's the door' sets my wife off. *sigh*
How are they ever going to act like men if they keep getting babied? X_X
I agree. At 23, I bought my own car and wasn't too far from buying my own condo.

I'm interested in knowing where you lived at 23.


Emperor7 wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Nothing makes you appreciate money, time, and effort more than being broke. I second Callous Jack's proposal.

It's so foreign to me. Promises, signatures on credit cards, earning your own way mean nothing to them. *sigh* My 26 year old finally got a clue about a year ago but I still worry about him from time to time, but at least he's making progress.

The fact that the world basically works on daylight hours means nothing to their desire to stay up 'til 5 am and sleep 'til 3 pm. So foreign to me.

I did that for a few years, but even then I was working. The 5 am 3 pm thing was solely on the weekends.


Emperor7 wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Sorry to hear about the grating issues, E7. For what it is worth, take comfort in the fact that the world will teach these lessons, no matter how your wife's intervention postpone them. There maybe some lessons that they just have to learn directly. I hope that this burden being transferred back to you may be lessened through some frank communication.

I wish I could be more frank. I get my buttons pushed and I lose my temper, or I respond to aggressive defenses, or the 'what's the big deal?' response sets me off. My shortcoming.

Momma bear is a big part of their laziness problem.

What exactly is your response to the "what's the big deal?" question? Also, the world has changed considerably- are they really not doing anything or are they doing "invisible" work? I ask because it turns out that the guy I thought was the absolute laziest person I knew at the time was actually selling stuff online and making an absolute KILLING doing so: this was the early 90s- the first I knew with an e-bay based business before it was cool, and then he branched off into selling porn- not the most reputable business at the time, but he made a lot of money up until he graduated high school and that particular bubble burst. He actually knows and worked for one of the guys in that movie that came out recently about the boom in internet adult stuff. Of course NOW he's broke, but he had a good run for a while, and in high school no less.


Or tell 'em to get night jobs. There's still money to be made when the sun goes down.


Freehold DM wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Tried and failed. Momma bear problem with the one who's 'finding himself', and the younger is in college full-time so I cut him more slack. The attitude and lack of appreciation is what gets me. When I get to the point where I say anything it tuns into an argument. Saying 'there's the door' sets my wife off. *sigh*
How are they ever going to act like men if they keep getting babied? X_X
I agree. At 23, I bought my own car and wasn't too far from buying my own condo.
I'm interested in knowing where you lived at 23.

Rented house in Detroit for me and my young family, plus I worked 50 hours a week.


Freehold DM wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:

Rant:

** spoiler omitted **

Make them pay rent, they won't be so laissez-faire after that. That's what my dad did.
Tried and failed. Momma bear problem with the one who's 'finding himself', and the younger is in college full-time so I cut him more slack. The attitude and lack of appreciation is what gets me. When I get to the point where I say anything it tuns into an argument. Saying 'there's the door' sets my wife off. *sigh*
I'm not opposed to helping out with the occasional bill, but I'm against making the kids pay rent. I realize I live in a weird part of the country and that the experiences here don't mirror those of other places, but in almost every experience I or my friends have been in, paying rent(note- NOT helping out with the bills!) usually results in a kid that simply can't afford to move out and ends up staying home longer because the bite being taken out of their check eclipses the amount of money they would need to actually move out.

Hell, even paying the $20 a month upcharge for their cell phones on the family plan and the $40 a month for their car insurance WITHOUT me having to ask or nag about it would be an improvement. Or, mowing the lawn once in a while.

Plus, if they were actually working towards saving money to move out that'd be cool. But blowing every paycheck on bars, fast food, or video toys then REFUSING to do any of the above....


Freehold DM wrote:


What exactly is your response to the "what's the big deal?" question? Also, the world has changed considerably- are they really not doing anything or are they doing "invisible" work?

No invisible work. Just the desire to work only enough to have party money.

And their bill collectors call the house number when they default...

I wish I could find justification in their POV. It doesn't exist. I can only hope that some day it changes. Before I die.

Speaking of which, apparently I've been a real d!ck since my brain hemorrhage last year. Though my wife says I'm more mellow. I guess I'm only a d when I call them out on things.

Spoiler:
Like, when I got angry about them taking out 2 handguns from the gun safe to go to the shooting range, that I was keeping safe for my bro-in-law. WITHOUT PERMISSION! Nothing happened, but why would I get angry about something like that? It's not like their irresponsible or anything. Arrgh. I'm having them all removed now.

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