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NobodysHome wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

Same. Our district has a lot of kids who are homeschooled K-6...and they get to junior high with staggering gaps in basic reading/writing. Like...complete emotional shut down over simple reading comprehension questions. I've heard there's similar for math, but that's not my department, so I've not really noticed.

...really makes me wonder what exactly they're doing for that stretch of time.

The problem if you are homeschooled, how do you get to the standard required for public exams?

Granted since my Aunt was a elementary school teacher, we probably could have been homeschooled, but the law does not allow, so we went to school, got top grades, and secretly read storybooks under the table. Or at least I did...

Er... this is the U.S. Our public education system is almost as good as our public health care system.

There are no standardized exams for education. Unless you want to count the G.E.D., which is only for people who do not put in the requisite years for high school.

Or do home schooled kids need to eventually pass the G.E.D.? I honestly don't know.

I think the GED is only a factor if you're wanting a job that out-and-out requires a high school education or wanting to apply for college. I don't know how one would go about accrediting a homeschool program, but that may make a difference.


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Oh, for...


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Education is more important than clothes.


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Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

Same. Our district has a lot of kids who are homeschooled K-6...and they get to junior high with staggering gaps in basic reading/writing. Like...complete emotional shut down over simple reading comprehension questions. I've heard there's similar for math, but that's not my department, so I've not really noticed.

...really makes me wonder what exactly they're doing for that stretch of time.

The problem if you are homeschooled, how do you get to the standard required for public exams?

Granted since my Aunt was a elementary school teacher, we probably could have been homeschooled, but the law does not allow, so we went to school, got top grades, and secretly read storybooks under the table. Or at least I did...

Er... this is the U.S. Our public education system is almost as good as our public health care system.

There are no standardized exams for education. Unless you want to count the G.E.D., which is only for people who do not put in the requisite years for high school.

Or do home schooled kids need to eventually pass the G.E.D.? I honestly don't know.

I think the GED is only a factor if you're wanting a job that out-and-out requires a high school education or wanting to apply for college. I don't know how one would go about accrediting a homeschool program, but that may make a difference.

Lots and lots of paperwork, and time, and access to state standardized testing.

Or whatever mom and dad went through.


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OK. Work time! Offline 'til lunch! Let's see whether I can make it!


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Cya


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NobodysHome wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:

Do you know what today is?

TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF VACATION!

The kids get to sleep in (their alarm normally goes off at 6:30), then later on I drop them at Grandma's for a couple of hours so I can go to the faculty holiday luncheon, then come home and clean and cook so Grandpa and Step-Grandma can come over for an early Christmas dinner.
(It's the only night we can do it, since WW has to work Friday and Saturday night, and then we leave early Sunday.)

And what are YOU doing awake!?!?!?!

For the last two hours?

Paying bills, balancing the books, seeing whether everything is gonna go "boing" before January 15th, and for twenty minutes, watching the end of an episode of Dark Matter I fell asleep watching last night.

The upshot is, no utilities will get shut off, and we'll be able to pay rent, and if we're really lucky, I haven't forgotten anything.


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Scintillae wrote:
incoherent gibbering

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Kids are awake.
Time to go be a responsible parent. I have two hours to get them breakfasted, get some coffee and a shower and get gussied up, and leave to go drop them off at Grandma's.
And, with kids, it is a total crapshoot as to whether or not we will be late.


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I let the kids play hangman while I put their test corrections into the gradebook. They have strategically moved to block me from seeing the board...because I'm a bad person and always immediately guess Q, X, J, and V to try and tank it.

It drives them nutty. I love it.

Grand Lodge

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Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

Same. Our district has a lot of kids who are homeschooled K-6...and they get to junior high with staggering gaps in basic reading/writing. Like...complete emotional shut down over simple reading comprehension questions. I've heard there's similar for math, but that's not my department, so I've not really noticed.

...really makes me wonder what exactly they're doing for that stretch of time.

The problem if you are homeschooled, how do you get to the standard required for public exams?

Granted since my Aunt was a elementary school teacher, we probably could have been homeschooled, but the law does not allow, so we went to school, got top grades, and secretly read storybooks under the table. Or at least I did...

Er... this is the U.S. Our public education system is almost as good as our public health care system.

There are no standardized exams for education. Unless you want to count the G.E.D., which is only for people who do not put in the requisite years for high school.

Eh, there's state assessments. But yeah, those vary by state and incoherent gibbering

Oooh yeah, we don't do standardized testing right anyway. Cyz has complained about that a time or two.


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The problem if you are homeschooled, how do you get to the standard required for public exams?

While there are no universal standards, there are "enough" standards that you can keep up with the general flow of education - at least there were back in the 90s when I was doing this.

My mom used several accredited private schools (following along with a curriculum called "Becka" or "Abekka" or something - I don't remember, because it's been two decades+) and supplementing that with highschool and college texts as she had and as was necessary.

Scintillae wrote:
Granted since my Aunt was a elementary school teacher, we probably could have been homeschooled, but the law does not allow, so we went to school, got top grades, and secretly read storybooks under the table. Or at least I did...

That... is scarily accurate, yeah.


Bllllaaarrrrrg.

Sneezing so hard I <censored for gross>.

Head hurt.

Nose running.

Can't see the posts I've made 'cause forum.

Can't see the posts I've favorite'd 'cause forum.

Bluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg.

Over-all, life is good.

Scarab Sages

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NobodysHome wrote:

OK. Try this.

I created a fake Flickr account, since Flickr seems to be the overall best-reviewed...

Cool!

Scarab Sages

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NobodysHome wrote:
Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


(And yeah, I've been complaining about low funds, but that's because our bank account is down to $500, which is really, really low for us. Creditwise, we could buy whatever we wanted, but I despise carrying credit balances. So we're at, "Buy what we need to to keep the food from spoiling" phase.)

This is honestly blowing my mind.

Its such a different way to think about money.
If I have 500 euro in my bank account. That's it.

I really try to avoid discussing money on FaWtL, because yes, I live in quite a different world. The tech industry has transformed the Bay Area into a sea of stupid excess, from $1.2 million for 900 square foot homes, to $1200 for a simple steak dinner for 4.

I like to tell people to divide every dollar value I write down by 5, because that seems to be about the right multiplier.

Today I spent $400 on a cooler. Most people would consider that the height of insanity. Divide by 5 and you get $80. Still pretty darned high for a cooler, but something you might pay if you had the funds and you knew it was the best cooler you'd ever own.

EDIT: Aaaand... cue LM saying, "And you do a really crappy job of it!" in 5... 4... 3...

No no, not the price of it.

The "we have x amount of actual money, but we have credit cards, so we have more potential money".

Scarab Sages

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I'm 5 feet 9 inches according to the internet converter.
Which is exactly average Dutch female height.


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Yep. It boggles me, too. But having a credit score is basically required, so...kind of forced. I have a card, but I literally never use it and forget I have it.


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If we're converting, I'm 149 cm.

...I have never had a student shorter than I am.

...subbing for elementary doesn't count.


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Scintillae wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

And yeah, it *IS* a pet peeve of mine. Over the years, many, many women have listened to GothBard brag about me, or me talk about my life and what I do, and they say, "Wow! I wish I'd met you in high school."

To which my unspoken reply is always, "You did; you just ignored me because I was short and not a jock."

But seriously. I did not have a single date throughout high school. I didn't have a first kiss until I was 19. I asked, and got the dreaded, "You're too nice!" more often than I care to think of.

So getting the revisionist, "*I* would have dated you" always touches off a sore spot with me.

Go figure.

I don't date in highschool. Studies before this kind of thing. So I was glad no one asked me out else I'd have to turn them down and it would hurt their feelings.
I was 26 when I started dating. Do I win?

If by "date" we mean a thing with explicit asking out for a date instead of just getting to hang together, then I was never on a date.


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NobodysHome wrote:

But seriously. I did not have a single date throughout high school. I didn't have a first kiss until I was 19.
So getting the revisionist, "*I* would have dated you" always touches off a sore spot with me.

Go figure.

Ditto on all points.

Even though I worked out excessively so I was both slim and stacked, my dad made me (a) wear baggy clothes two sizes too big to hide my figure, (b) not wear makeup, and (c) keep my hair cut to about a inch and a half, all around.

So everyone at school assumed I was a very butch lesbian. If I asked a guy out, I got a very awkward no, every time.


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Bonus: when I showed WW my yearbook photo from when I was seventeen (only the page, with the names blocked by a piece of paper), he couldn't find me on the page. He skipped over my picture thinking it was a guy.


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The guy sitting to my right smells like death. The woman on my left smells of cigarettes and stale popcorn.

Time to move.


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Vanykrye wrote:

The guy sitting to my right smells like death. The woman on my left smells of cigarettes and stale popcorn.

Time to move.

B-side Tom Waits lyrics?


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lisamarlene wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

The guy sitting to my right smells like death. The woman on my left smells of cigarettes and stale popcorn.

Time to move.

B-side Tom Waits lyrics?

If only I could write lyrics as well as Tom Waites on his C game.

Edit: Stupid phone.


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Thinking back, I actually did get asked out in high school. Once. And I didn't figure it out till about three weeks after the fact.

A senior in my history class (I was a sophomore) had been talking about prom. I assumed he was just making conversation, so I started talking about something else because pff, I wasn't going.

...I still didn't get it til my friend explicitly spelled it out. Whoops.

...I probably wouldn't have gone even if I had figured it out because I just did not think of myself and dating in the same zip code.


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Woran wrote:

I'm 5 feet 9 inches according to the internet converter.

Which is exactly average Dutch female height.

At least I can count on Nobodyshome to be shorter than I am.


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I had one girlfriend in high school. We wanted very different things out of the relationship. Namely, I was only in on it because it was expected of people to date in high school, my parents had been increasingly pestering me about it (out of fear I might be gay, likely), and because I was on good terms with the brother of the girl I ended up dating, who was a fellow trombonist in band. I didn't dislike her or anything, either, so had no opposition at first.

She on the other hand wanted a guy she could cling to and show off to her female friends, and expected a stereotypical high-octane high school passion party. She also wanted me to spend almost all my free time with her, which did end up becoming a bit frustrating.

We broke up when she wanted me to kiss her and I was so uncomfortable with the request that I immediately called my parents to come pick me up (I was visiting at her place) and take me home. Pretty much all communication ceased from that point on.

In hindsight I've often wondered if she assumed I wouldn't kiss her because she wasn't stereotypically attractive, or something to similar effect, when in reality it was more that even at 16 I was still in the "kissing girls, yuck" phase of maturing. And of course later identifying as ace explained that. But I doubt that would have been much consolation at the time.


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God, discovering that concept made so many things make so much more sense.


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Inorite?


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

But seriously. I did not have a single date throughout high school. I didn't have a first kiss until I was 19.
So getting the revisionist, "*I* would have dated you" always touches off a sore spot with me.

Go figure.

Ditto on all points.

Even though I worked out excessively so I was both slim and stacked, my dad made me (a) wear baggy clothes two sizes too big to hide my figure, (b) not wear makeup, and (c) keep my hair cut to about a inch and a half, all around.

So everyone at school assumed I was a very butch lesbian. If I asked a guy out, I got a very awkward no, every time.

you literally described my first girlfriend(save for the hair).

She was a lesbian.

I may also construct a time machine for absolutely no reason whatsoever.


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Essays are all in and graded. Now I just have one more round of test corrections, and my semester grades are finalized a day early.


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HUZZAH!!

Grand Lodge

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Orthos wrote:
Inorite?

Still don't know if it quite fits me, but it's made more sense than anything else.


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Well, with a complete collapse of my last research item, I have run out of work for the year.

A day and a half before I am on vacation for the rest of the year.

I e-mailed my manager looking for things to do, but you might see a LOT more of me than I intended today and tomorrow.

EDIT: Now why couldn't THIS post be a top-of-pager?


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I never had issues with girls in high school.

Or more specifically, having girlfriends WAS my problem in high school.


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That's the thing. I never saw my lack of interest in dating as a problem. I never even thought of it as odd until I got to college, and even then, it didn't really cross my mind that I should care.


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Life with Shiro:
"You bought a Yeti? Why'd you buy a Yeti?!?! I could have given you one! I have one in my garage! And they're expensive!"

And yes. Shiro has a spare Yeti in his garage. Because he bought one for his Jeep and it was too big, so instead of returning it he just put it in his garage and bought a smaller one.

Because Shiro's garage. Land of Wonder.


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By the way, If you want a thread derailed just say there are no stupid questions.

Yes, yes there is.

Grand Lodge

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captain yesterday wrote:
I never had issues with girls in high school.

Me either. I avoided everyone equally.


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Scintillae wrote:
That's the thing. I never saw my lack of interest in dating as a problem. I never even thought of it as odd until I got to college, and even then, it didn't really cross my mind that I should care.

I probably wouldn't have considered it a problem either if my parents hasn't been so persistent in pestering me about it. "It's okay for you to like girls, you know. You like girls, right?"


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And I never got that from my parents. I wonder if it was because I'm not a boy? ...though I never got discouragement from dating, either. I got a lot of "please go outside and make friends."

I've never encountered a family where they have a "no dating till you're married lol" rule for their sons, always for their daughters.


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I'm 99% sure in my case that it was more they desperately wanted to make sure I wasn't gay. This was the late 90s and early 2000s, after all. The AIDS crisis was still in full swing and the Gay Rights and LGBT movements in general were really starting to get attention. The evils of deviant sexuality was a common subject of sermons and newspapers alike in south Texas at the time.

Though on the other hand, one short-lived hetero relationship that ended because of a desire on one side to get more intimate leading to refusal and retreat from the other probably shouldn't have assuaded such fears as much as it did.


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I'll put it this way on the socialization thing-

One year, my physics teacher said to my mom at parent-teacher conferences that I'd do better in class if I wasn't so chatty with my friends.

Mom almost hugged him. "Oh, my God, she's being social! Thank you!"


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Scintillae wrote:

And I never got that from my parents. I wonder if it was because I'm not a boy? ...though I never got discouragement from dating, either. I got a lot of "please go outside and make friends."

I've never encountered a family where they have a "no dating till you're married lol" rule for their sons, always for their daughters.

Something something virginal purity and gender stereotypes and double standards associated therewith. >.>


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Orthos wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

And I never got that from my parents. I wonder if it was because I'm not a boy? ...though I never got discouragement from dating, either. I got a lot of "please go outside and make friends."

I've never encountered a family where they have a "no dating till you're married lol" rule for their sons, always for their daughters.

Something something virginal purity and gender stereotypes and double

standards associated therewith. >.>

Also, the boy won't get pregnant. Yeah, there are issues of responsibility, support, and marriage for traditionalist, but there is always possibility that the father will skip leaving the girl with fatherless child.


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Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

And I never got that from my parents. I wonder if it was because I'm not a boy? ...though I never got discouragement from dating, either. I got a lot of "please go outside and make friends."

I've never encountered a family where they have a "no dating till you're married lol" rule for their sons, always for their daughters.

Something something virginal purity and gender stereotypes and double

standards associated therewith. >.>
Also, the boy won't get pregnant. Yeah, there are issues of responsibility, support, and marriage for traditionalist, but there is always possibility that the father will skip leaving the girl with fatherless child.

Yep. And, societally, only the girl gets blamed when this happens. Can't have any fault on the boy knocking her up, nope, we'll just ignore the fact that it takes two...


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captain yesterday wrote:

I never had issues with girls in high school.

Or more specifically, having girlfriends WAS my problem in high school.

I hate you.


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Scintillae wrote:

I'll put it this way on the socialization thing-

One year, my physics teacher said to my mom at parent-teacher conferences that I'd do better in class if I wasn't so chatty with my friends.

Mom almost hugged him. "Oh, my God, she's being social! Thank you!"

you remind me very much of a friend in high school whom I have lost contact with.

I'll never forget when I went over to his house to hang out. Once his mom was sure I wasn't gay, she almost broke down crying that her son had made a friend.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Life with Shiro:

"You bought a Yeti? Why'd you buy a Yeti?!?! I could have given you one! I have one in my garage! And they're expensive!"

And yes. Shiro has a spare Yeti in his garage. Because he bought one for his Jeep and it was too big, so instead of returning it he just put it in his garage and bought a smaller one.

Because Shiro's garage. Land of Wonder.

I also hate you.

Or shiros garage.

Possibly because the black lion is under it.

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