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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Trying to shield your kids from reality really never goes well.
As I understand it, being shielded from negative emotions is a common theme among addicts.

It's interesting -- everyone assumes I was an alcoholic because I was unhappy. But no, very much like my father, I just really enjoyed the feeling of being "buzzed". And work was boring.

So having a good buzz on made work go by much faster, and felt really good. I wasn't particularly trying to hide from anything or drown any memories. I just liked being drunk.

Go figure.

EDIT: Well, I had to find *some* way to make work more exciting!


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Trying to get some character notes/outlining for that story concept I brought up yesterday, and it occurs to me that I have a trend in most of what I write: every single work has a main character whose role in the story can be summed up as "This is not how I'm supposed to use my training."


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Just a Mort wrote:

Cover Turtle - I think I just need a bucketful of Linkin Park and push myself.

Its near 11 pm and I'm still out, because I decided to catch the orchard lighting with my BF after the movie.

*Waddles after Mort to see the orchard lightning too*

Do kind of wish I had your fortitude and drive to slim down a bit...
But alas my flesh is weak and I don't really (at least currently) have the will to push myself more then what I'm doing (ie swimming a couple of times a week).

NobodysHome wrote:


It's interesting -- everyone assumes I was an alcoholic because I was unhappy. But no, very much like my father, I just really enjoyed the feeling of being "buzzed". And work was boring.

So having a good buzz on made work go by much faster, and felt really good. I wasn't particularly trying to hide from anything or drown any memories. I just liked being drunk.

While I did (or do) drink because of being depressed, I can attest to this. Being buzzed feels so damn good, so it becomes sort of an artform as an alcoholic to get the hits in with a couple of glasses, and then slow down - start to nurse your drinks - in order to stretch out the buzz as long as possible without getting into the 'complete head-spinning phase' or the 'getting too sleepy phase'.


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Speaking of unexpected holiday expenses, the fridge blew a seal and is dead. R.I.P.

We got 16 1/2 years out of it with no repairs nor maintenance in all that time, so like the repair guy said, we got our money's worth, but now it's time to find another 26.5 cubic foot fridge and have it delivered before all our food spoils.

Suddenly the Yeti is looking like a darned smart purchase.

(And yeah, I've been complaining about low funds, but that's because our bank account is down to $500, which is really, really low for us. Creditwise, we could buy whatever we wanted, but I despise carrying credit balances. So we're at, "Buy what we need to to keep the food from spoiling" phase.)


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NobodysHome wrote:

I was going to post about something else, but speaking of scary math:

Berkeley, CA:
- Mean income: $111,643
- Median income: $67,691

Really says everything you need to know about income disparity right there, and how easy it is to make everyone look prosperous if you feed everybody means (not memes).

Flame on, Fritzy!

** spoiler omitted **

what is the mode?

vomits due to math


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Cover Turtle wrote:
Being buzzed feels so damn good, so it becomes sort of an artform as an alcoholic to get the hits in with a couple of glasses, and then slow down - start to nurse you're drinks - in order to stretch out the buzz as long as possible without getting into the 'complete head-spinning phase' or the 'getting too sleepy phase'.

That is just SO darned accurate it's scary.

It was, "3.0 ounces of 96-proof rum to get started. In about an hour, 1.5 more ounces to get into a really good buzz. Wait 2-3 hours, then have 1 more ounce."

I was very good at making it last the entire work day without getting TOO messed up. Except on rare occasions I *did*, and that was out-and-out embarrassing.


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

I was going to post about something else, but speaking of scary math:

Berkeley, CA:
- Mean income: $111,643
- Median income: $67,691

Really says everything you need to know about income disparity right there, and how easy it is to make everyone look prosperous if you feed everybody means (not memes).

Flame on, Fritzy!

** spoiler omitted **

what is the mode?

vomits due to math

Mode? She makes costumes, but most people just call her E.

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NobodysHome wrote:
Cover Turtle wrote:
Being buzzed feels so damn good, so it becomes sort of an artform as an alcoholic to get the hits in with a couple of glasses, and then slow down - start to nurse you're drinks - in order to stretch out the buzz as long as possible without getting into the 'complete head-spinning phase' or the 'getting too sleepy phase'.

That is just SO darned accurate it's scary.

It was, "3.0 ounces of 96-proof rum to get started. In about an hour, 1.5 more ounces to get into a really good buzz. Wait 2-3 hours, then have 1 more ounce."

I was very good at making it last the entire work day without getting TOO messed up. Except on rare occasions I *did*, and that was out-and-out embarrassing.

This is fascinating and utterly alien to me at the same time, as someone who finds the buzzed/minor high euphoria downright disturbing and uncomfortable. When I've had medication that doctors tell me will produce the same results, it's always instead given me a sickening disphoriac feeling, a sort of sensation of not being fully myself or completely in control of my body. Which is one of the most terrifying things I've ever endured.


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Pills are NOT the same as alcohol, anyone that tells you differently is full of s!!%.


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NobodysHome wrote:

The numbers support Orthos. Depressing.

I really do live in a Mary Sue city.

No wonder it's so ****** expensive.

I will still return wallets, but the first time I did at the university that I was going to, the security people gave me the third degree. That was not fun.


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Passed a sign today that said "WATCH CHILDREN"

No thanks. I'm not a pedophile. That s~@~ is gross.


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Ha! Boyd is just now starting to put things together.

Not the brightest bulb that's for sure.


Sharoth wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

The numbers support Orthos. Depressing.

I really do live in a Mary Sue city.

No wonder it's so ****** expensive.

I will still return wallets, but the first time I did at the university that I was going to, the security people gave me the third degree. That was not fun.

Why would they do that?

"How DARE you do something good?!"

Weird.

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NobodysHome wrote:

It's particularly irritating because California is a legalized state; on that block were dispensaries selling all forms of edibles: Gummi bears, brownies, what-have-you, and security at the door was letting people in with pretty much anything that wasn't a weapon.
But NOOOOOOOO...., smoking is the *only* way to do it "properly".

N00bs.

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NobodysHome wrote:


(And yeah, I've been complaining about low funds, but that's because our bank account is down to $500, which is really, really low for us. Creditwise, we could buy whatever we wanted, but I despise carrying credit balances. So we're at, "Buy what we need to to keep the food from spoiling" phase.)

This is honestly blowing my mind.

Its such a different way to think about money.
If I have 500 euro in my bank account. That's it.

Scarab Sages

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The wall painting is done. Its a bit uneven in places. I knew there was a chance, as having to paint a wall at an angle using a roller on a pole is not easy.
But I'm still miffed about it.

At least peeling all the tape off the walls was very satisfying.


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Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

It's particularly irritating because California is a legalized state; on that block were dispensaries selling all forms of edibles: Gummi bears, brownies, what-have-you, and security at the door was letting people in with pretty much anything that wasn't a weapon.
But NOOOOOOOO...., smoking is the *only* way to do it "properly".

N00bs.

To be fair, it's my favorite way. I like the physical feel of inhaling the smoke. I like to watch the cloud in it's random patterns as I exhale. I like the instantaneous relief compared to edibles. Only vaping compares, but it's more expensive.


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Nope, he still hasn't figured it out.


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Woran wrote:

The wall painting is done. Its a bit uneven in places. I knew there was a chance, as having to paint a wall at an angle using a roller on a pole is not easy.

But I'm still miffed about it.

At least peeling all the tape off the walls was very satisfying.

NobodysHome's Painting Experience:

GothBard: Hey, NobodysHome! You're strong! You do the ceilings!
NH: Er... but I suck at painting!
GB: It's OK! Just make sure the roller stays against the ceiling and roll it along.
NH: (Puts pole against ceiling. Pushes hard to make sure it stays in place. Starts moving pole. Pole snaps, sending paint flying all over the room)
GB: OK. Change of plans: Apple Guy, you do the ceiling. NobodysHome, you just focus on washing things.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Nope, he still hasn't figured it out.

Some days (OK, many days) I wish you lived closer.

Turning Crookshank's phone over to the Impii so they could respond to Boyd's texts would be... priceless.

He'd probably never come within 100' of Crookshanks again.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Yep. Statistics be evil in the wrong hands.

I taught a whole class on it. Probably the second-most-fun class I ever taught.

The most fun being another stat class where one of the students declared me Dr. Evil so I spent the rest of the semester in costume and their tests were all figuring out whether or not my latest nefarious scheme would succeed in conquering the world.

Best answer ever: "I refuse to assist you in your nefarious plots, and therefore in good conscience cannot answer this question."
The guy was failing horrifically, but I gave him half credit for THAT particular gem.

You don't happen to have photos of your Evil persona and your leather-clad enforcer, do you?


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Drejk wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Yep. Statistics be evil in the wrong hands.

I taught a whole class on it. Probably the second-most-fun class I ever taught.

The most fun being another stat class where one of the students declared me Dr. Evil so I spent the rest of the semester in costume and their tests were all figuring out whether or not my latest nefarious scheme would succeed in conquering the world.

Best answer ever: "I refuse to assist you in your nefarious plots, and therefore in good conscience cannot answer this question."
The guy was failing horrifically, but I gave him half credit for THAT particular gem.

You don't happen to have photos of your Evil and your leather-clad enforcer, do you?

I have many, many pictures I should scan, upload, and post for FaWtL consumption.

But I deleted my Yahoo! account and I think I mentioned Google won't let me post pictures anonymously, so I need to find another photo sharing site that doesn't insist on plastering my real name all over the publicly-accessible albums.


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Attempting to make homemade pretzels has been...interesting. The dough didn't rise like it should have, and the shape is...abstract. But they taste okay.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Drejk wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Yep. Statistics be evil in the wrong hands.

I taught a whole class on it. Probably the second-most-fun class I ever taught.

The most fun being another stat class where one of the students declared me Dr. Evil so I spent the rest of the semester in costume and their tests were all figuring out whether or not my latest nefarious scheme would succeed in conquering the world.

Best answer ever: "I refuse to assist you in your nefarious plots, and therefore in good conscience cannot answer this question."
The guy was failing horrifically, but I gave him half credit for THAT particular gem.

You don't happen to have photos of your Evil and your leather-clad enforcer, do you?

I have many, many pictures I should scan, upload, and post for FaWtL consumption.

But I deleted my Yahoo! account and I think I mentioned Google won't let me post pictures anonymously, so I need to find another photo sharing site that doesn't insist on plastering my real name all over the publicly-accessible albums.

Deviant Art doesn't require entering personal data, as far as I recall.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Trying to shield your kids from reality really never goes well.
As I understand it, being shielded from negative emotions is a common theme among addicts.

It's interesting -- everyone assumes I was an alcoholic because I was unhappy. But no, very much like my father, I just really enjoyed the feeling of being "buzzed". And work was boring.

So having a good buzz on made work go by much faster, and felt really good. I wasn't particularly trying to hide from anything or drown any memories. I just liked being drunk.

Go figure.

EDIT: Well, I had to find *some* way to make work more exciting!

Happy drunk is quite common. And it is an easy way to addiction. And the one that is the least associated with addiction where it takes much more from the drunk to be classified by others as "alcoholic".

I happened to get happy while being drunk, but personally I don't like the "buzz". For me it is too much like locomotion sickness... I hate dizziness of everything being unstable and feeling like it moves without moving.


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OK. Try this.

I created a fake Flickr account, since Flickr seems to be the overall best-reviewed...


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Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


(And yeah, I've been complaining about low funds, but that's because our bank account is down to $500, which is really, really low for us. Creditwise, we could buy whatever we wanted, but I despise carrying credit balances. So we're at, "Buy what we need to to keep the food from spoiling" phase.)

This is honestly blowing my mind.

Its such a different way to think about money.
If I have 500 euro in my bank account. That's it.

I really try to avoid discussing money on FaWtL, because yes, I live in quite a different world. The tech industry has transformed the Bay Area into a sea of stupid excess, from $1.2 million for 900 square foot homes, to $1200 for a simple steak dinner for 4.

I like to tell people to divide every dollar value I write down by 5, because that seems to be about the right multiplier.

Today I spent $400 on a cooler. Most people would consider that the height of insanity. Divide by 5 and you get $80. Still pretty darned high for a cooler, but something you might pay if you had the funds and you knew it was the best cooler you'd ever own.

EDIT: Aaaand... cue LM saying, "And you do a really crappy job of it!" in 5... 4... 3...


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You could always move here and live like kings, with the tech clout to lord over everyone.


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Cap'n Yesterday, FaWtL Tourism wrote:
You could always move here and live like kings, with the tech clout to lord over everyone.

GothBard doesn't do snow. Nor blistering sun. Nor endemic insanity. So, with Canada, Arizona, and Florida out, our choices are Hawaii or California. And frighteningly, they're about the same price.


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"As the message board refugees look for a safe place to regroup, Admiral Orthos conducts Search-and-Destroy bombardments against known Blood Nest Pirate bases."


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Hiding? In FaWtL? From Orthos?

If you really want to get away, try posting in my kids' campaign thread. He'll never find you there.

EDIT: Or better yet, the Rules forums.

Shadow Lodge

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Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


(And yeah, I've been complaining about low funds, but that's because our bank account is down to $500, which is really, really low for us. Creditwise, we could buy whatever we wanted, but I despise carrying credit balances. So we're at, "Buy what we need to to keep the food from spoiling" phase.)

This is honestly blowing my mind.

Its such a different way to think about money.
If I have 500 euro in my bank account. That's it.

Scint and I had this conversation earlier this week actually. She's always had a solid cushion of funds ever since she was in her early teens, plus a sizable savings.

I on the other hand am currently down to cents in my account, and this is not a situation I have never encountered before. I do not possess a credit card, and my credit score is poor enough I probably never will.

The fact that I was not losing my mind was blowing hers.

(Admittedly, the fact that I live with my parents and thus do not have the expenses associated with residential bills, unlike when I lived in my various apartments, does go a long way toward preventing that freakout.)


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No. The message board members are on the run from the evil Blood Nest Pirates, not Orthos.

Sovereign Court

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John Napier 698 wrote:
"As the message board refugees look for a safe place to regroup, Admiral Orthos conducts Search-and-Destroy bombardments against known Blood Nest Pirate bases."

"MWEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEE!! Launching all missiles!!"


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It's nine PM, and I'm tired. Good night, everyone.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Cap'n Yesterday, FaWtL Tourism wrote:
You could always move here and live like kings, with the tech clout to lord over everyone.
GothBard doesn't do snow. Nor blistering sun. Nor endemic insanity. So, with Canada, Arizona, and Florida out, our choices are Hawaii or California. And frighteningly, they're about the same price.

Seattle? Or do they get snow?

Oh, wait, it's pricey too...


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John Napier 698 wrote:
No. The message board members are on the run from the evil Blood Nest Pirates, not Orthos.

What's this now, is this something I'll get another 24 hour ban if I go looking for it.


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John Napier 698 wrote:
It's nine PM, and I'm tired. Good night, everyone.

G'night, John.


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Orthos wrote:
Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


(And yeah, I've been complaining about low funds, but that's because our bank account is down to $500, which is really, really low for us. Creditwise, we could buy whatever we wanted, but I despise carrying credit balances. So we're at, "Buy what we need to to keep the food from spoiling" phase.)

This is honestly blowing my mind.

Its such a different way to think about money.
If I have 500 euro in my bank account. That's it.

Scint and I had this conversation earlier this week actually. She's always had a solid cushion of funds ever since she was in her early teens, plus a sizable savings.

I on the other hand am currently down to cents in my account, and this is not a situation I have never encountered before. I do not possess a credit card, and my credit score is poor enough I probably never will.

The fact that I was not losing my mind was blowing hers.

(Admittedly, the fact that I live with my parents and thus do not have the expenses associated with residential bills, unlike when I lived in my various apartments, does go a long way toward preventing that freakout.)

Yeah, that's VERY "different".

From when I turned 18, if I didn't have at least $1000 in some kind of immediately-liquid form (cash or credit) I started getting antsy. I think it came from a combination of my father's paranoia that society was about to collapse, plus being of draftable age during the Reagan years when he was basically daring the Soviet Union to start a war. I needed to be able to flee the country at any time, at a moment's notice.

The lowest I ever got was $127 in available liquid assets while in grad school, and notice that I remember that number to this day as being unconscionably "dangerous".

EDIT: Just keep in mind that I did all the meal planning, cooking, and cleaning, and in return stayed at my parents' rent-free until I was 24, at the same time working odd jobs plus pulling in an allowance to make cash. So I had a pretty easy time with cash flow 'til I moved out.


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I'm Orthos level broke...well almost. We just barely will make it through the month. Next month I start the new job so that should help some. It's PT and not super high wage, but Athens County is pretty cheap outside of the city proper.


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I'm personally broke unless it snows.

Shakes fist at the lack of snow.

Bills, food, and Christmas are set though, so no worries!

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I'm only this close to scraping the bottom of the barrel because of shortened hours + holidays + unexpected dental expenses. Under normal circumstances I get by fine, though I'd still never be what anyone would consider rich.


NobodysHome wrote:

OK. Try this.

I created a fake Flickr account, since Flickr seems to be the overall best-reviewed...

Those are adorable!

I... must admit: I actually can't tell which one is you...

(This is highly embarrassing, as I really thought I knew what you looked like. Possibly I'm just still feverish. Possibly I'm just dumb. Great pictures, either way!)


John Napier 698 wrote:
No. The message board members are on the run from the evil Blood Nest Pirates, not Orthos.

Ohoh! Has this moved over to this thread, now? I was waiting for more Monkey shenanigans!

John Napier 698 wrote:
It's nine PM, and I'm tired. Good night, everyone.

Goodnight!


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NobodysHome wrote:
Woran wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


(And yeah, I've been complaining about low funds, but that's because our bank account is down to $500, which is really, really low for us. Creditwise, we could buy whatever we wanted, but I despise carrying credit balances. So we're at, "Buy what we need to to keep the food from spoiling" phase.)

This is honestly blowing my mind.

Its such a different way to think about money.
If I have 500 euro in my bank account. That's it.

I really try to avoid discussing money on FaWtL, because yes, I live in quite a different world. The tech industry has transformed the Bay Area into a sea of stupid excess, from $1.2 million for 900 square foot homes, to $1200 for a simple steak dinner for 4.

I like to tell people to divide every dollar value I write down by 5, because that seems to be about the right multiplier.

Today I spent $400 on a cooler. Most people would consider that the height of insanity. Divide by 5 and you get $80. Still pretty darned high for a cooler, but something you might pay if you had the funds and you knew it was the best cooler you'd ever own.

EDIT: Aaaand... cue LM saying, "And you do a really crappy job of it!" in 5... 4... 3...

I will very likely never own a four hundred dollar cooler, and yet my house and my yard are bigger than yours, and I have two full bathrooms.

Suck it, moneybags.


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Tacticslion wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

OK. Try this.

I created a fake Flickr account, since Flickr seems to be the overall best-reviewed...

Those are adorable!

I... must admit: I actually can't tell which one is you...

(This is highly embarrassing, as I really thought I knew what you looked like. Possibly I'm just still feverish. Possibly I'm just dumb. Great pictures, either way!)

If he was in there, I couldn't recognize him, only Goth Bard.


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(BTW, everyone here, especially NH, should know that post was meant to be funny, right?)

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I always mean for things to be funny, but often they are not.

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