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Sorry to hear about your mom Sharoth. Here's hoping the treatment does the job this time.


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NH reminds me of a Richard Jeni joke.

"Those commercials that talk about getting diarrhea at 'an inconvenient time' - is there ever a convenient time? I'll answer that. Yes, there are two: when you're behind on your reading, and when your cellmate makes his move."

Scarab Sages

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Just a Mort wrote:

I should help you with wall painting. I heard it's a really good workout. My aunt said that the last time she did it, she lost some weight.

Was your other half helping?

Ceiling painting is the harder one because you have to crank your head up all the time.

Since I'm switching jobs, I could use up all my vacation days. Using it to paint the stairwell, something we never did when we moved into the house.

Its the walls of the stairwell. I can really feel it in my arms, as its a lot of painting above my head.

MrT isnt helping, he still has to work. But I dont mind. He's not so good at painting. He is too impatient. Puts too much paint on the roller, and then doesnt properly spread it. Its probably faster doing it by myself.

Scarab Sages

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Sharoth wrote:
F$~~ cancer!

I agree 200%

Scarab Sages

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Sharoth wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
F!~& cancer!
What happened?

Mom. Fifth bout. Breast cancer that spread to the right lung (fourth time) and then to the brain (fifth bout, not done yet). Two tumors that were discovered about 7 to 8 months ago due to her having 3 seizures in 5 days. One of the tumors has almost gone away, but the second had shrunk to half the size it was, but it has now grown again and is slightly larger. She starts radiation treatment next week.

The law says that you must be at least 6 months seizure free before you can drive again. She has been 7 months seizure free but the doctor wants her to not drive for another six months or more due to this tumor. Needless to say, mom is not happy about that either.

And to add injury to insult, one of our cats is sick and at the vet for treatment. I am confident in her recovery, but the bill is at $680 as of right now and I expect it to go up.

Aw jeez that sucks. I wish you and your mom a lot of strength.


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And I'm being sent back to Virginia, possibly as early as next week. Oh joy. All because they can't get off their lazy butts in Virginia, they're going to have the company pay to fly me over, stay in hotels, rent a car, eat, and fly back. Waste.

Archery: Invented because I really want to stab that guy, but he's way over there.


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Random question popped in my head - What are your three favorite cheeses, in no particular order (because for me these swap based on mood):

Extra sharp Vermont white cheddar
Havarti
Smoked gouda

I also enjoy...well almost every cheese I've had that wasn't the consistency of yogurt at room temperature. Some Scandinavian blend I had at Melting Pot once was too damn strong and kicked me in the teeth, but I can't remember the name.

I like cheese.


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Vanykrye wrote:

And I'm being sent back to Virginia, possibly as early as next week. Oh joy. All because they can't get off their lazy butts in Virginia, they're going to have the company pay to fly me over, stay in hotels, rent a car, eat, and fly back. Waste.

Archery: Invented because I really want to stab that guy, but he's way over there.

I like company trips. I can eat out and bill the company, and most of the time your work day is like three hours long at most. Co-workers tend to drink too damn much, though, and I hate being around drunk people.


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I admit I am far from a cheese connoisseur, but I tend to favor really sharp cheddar, swiss, and the really thick mozzarella used in pizzas.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

And I'm being sent back to Virginia, possibly as early as next week. Oh joy. All because they can't get off their lazy butts in Virginia, they're going to have the company pay to fly me over, stay in hotels, rent a car, eat, and fly back. Waste.

Archery: Invented because I really want to stab that guy, but he's way over there.

I like company trips. I can eat out and bill the company, and most of the time your work day is like three hours long at most. Co-workers tend to drink too damn much, though, and I hate being around drunk people.

The company will pay only up to a point. There's a hard limit on each meal, and if I go over it's on me. And these work days are going to be 10-14 hours each, guaranteed.

And I'll be sent through Detroit on one of the flights and Atlanta on the other.


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Vanykrye wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

And I'm being sent back to Virginia, possibly as early as next week. Oh joy. All because they can't get off their lazy butts in Virginia, they're going to have the company pay to fly me over, stay in hotels, rent a car, eat, and fly back. Waste.

Archery: Invented because I really want to stab that guy, but he's way over there.

I like company trips. I can eat out and bill the company, and most of the time your work day is like three hours long at most. Co-workers tend to drink too damn much, though, and I hate being around drunk people.

The company will pay only up to a point. There's a hard limit on each meal, and if I go over it's on me. And these work days are going to be 10-14 hours each, guaranteed.

And I'll be sent through Detroit on one of the flights and Atlanta on the other.

Ugh. I wouldn't wanna do that either.


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NobodysHome is... displeased...

This paper-pushing obsessive-compulsive just got a call from the doctor's office asking, "Where are those 5 consent forms we asked you to send in?"

The answer: They are sitting in my box because YOU DID NOT TELL ME TO SEND THEM IN!!!

I thought it was pretty stupid to send me a bunch of forms to sign and then have them just sit around, but y'know, TELLING ME THAT I NEEDED TO SEND THEM IN would have been helpful!

As for cheeses, I'm thinking:
- Sharp cheddar
- Bleu
- Mozzarella


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I'm so sorry to hear about your mother's relapse, Sharoth. I'll keep both of you in my prayers.


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As for cheese, my favorites are:
Pepperjack, Provolone, and Swiss.


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I like most all cheeses. I dislike swiss and limberger.


Ugh.

Two players can't make our regular game, and the GM wants to do a 1-off PF game.

I adamantly refused.

We have a chance to do something DIFFERENT, literally ANYTHING different - NOT medieval European high fantasy, for example, or NOT d20, or...f#!#ing anything different, but no, his suggestion is "Let's do what we always do only with a shorter, likelier inferior story"

No matter what I argue. "I'm not interested in anything besides Pathfinder" from the others.

They're like a f+$$ing child being offered food they never ate, squinting, making a face, and swearing they don't like it before even tasting it. F@~!ing childish.


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Pick up a free module from the download store. Something like one of the We be Goblins modules.


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
They're like a f!@+ing child being offered food they never ate, squinting, making a face, and swearing they don't like it before even tasting it. F!@~ing childish.

Yeah, no, people get tired, my dude. I mean, I can't speak for them, but, as an example, I like - really like - playing games other than standard PF stuff, but there are times that I just really, truly don't care to learn "that system" whatever it is. I have too much life on my plate. And, honestly, I get fatigued with PF sometimes these days, too. Too much can be too much.

I'm not going to defend these people, specifically, only suggest that you might look at it from the perspective that some people just can't generate enthusiasm. And if you're not at least a little enthusiastic for a game - for any reason - it's not going to be fun.

(And, even if it's not that, it's far more like a child who is being offered candy or cake they've never eaten before and swearing they don't like it before tasting. Sure, it's childish, but not particularly more or less unhealthy than sticking to their favorites. Also, kids often convince themselves that they hate something they might otherwise enjoy if forced. You still need for force them to try healthy foods of all stripes at times, but it can backfire: pick your battles, is what I'm saying.)


Man, though, I like cheese.

I don't like Pepper Jack.

I'm sure there are others along a similar vein.

I like most others I've ever tried, at least to some extent.


Tacticslion wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
They're like a f!@+ing child being offered food they never ate, squinting, making a face, and swearing they don't like it before even tasting it. F!@~ing childish.

Yeah, no, people get tired, my dude. I mean, I can't speak for them, but, as an example, I like - really like - playing games other than standard PF stuff, but there are times that I just really, truly don't care to learn "that system" whatever it is. I have too much life on my plate. And, honestly, I get fatigued with PF sometimes these days, too. Too much can be too much.

I'm not going to defend these people, specifically, only suggest that you might look at it from the perspective that some people just can't generate enthusiasm. And if you're not at least a little enthusiastic for a game - for any reason - it's not going to be fun.

(And, even if it's not that, it's far more like a child who is being offered candy or cake they've never eaten before and swearing they don't like it before tasting. Sure, it's childish, but not particularly more or less unhealthy than sticking to their favorites. Also, kids often convince themselves that they hate something they might otherwise enjoy if forced. You still need for force them to try healthy foods of all stripes at times, but it can backfire: pick your battles, is what I'm saying.)

As a side note, some systems, like FATE, are so easy it's actually less work to learn them than to PLAY an average game of Pathfinder.

Anyway, that argument can be made (even though I disagree with it an still consider it close-minded and childish) for mechanics, but not for setting. If you read a setting, you obviously enjoy it, but won't play anything other than medieval european high fantasy? Really? I call BS.

The d20 system is available in so goddamn many settings it's not even funny. They wouldn't even consider Starfinder, and that's practically just Pathfinder with lasers.

Besides that, these are people who will learn ANY new PF material if it comes out, because new classes and races. So I call BS on "not wanting to learn something new" as well.


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
They're like a f!@+ing child being offered food they never ate, squinting, making a face, and swearing they don't like it before even tasting it. F!@~ing childish.

Yeah, no, people get tired, my dude. I mean, I can't speak for them, but, as an example, I like - really like - playing games other than standard PF stuff, but there are times that I just really, truly don't care to learn "that system" whatever it is. I have too much life on my plate. And, honestly, I get fatigued with PF sometimes these days, too. Too much can be too much.

I'm not going to defend these people, specifically, only suggest that you might look at it from the perspective that some people just can't generate enthusiasm. And if you're not at least a little enthusiastic for a game - for any reason - it's not going to be fun.

(And, even if it's not that, it's far more like a child who is being offered candy or cake they've never eaten before and swearing they don't like it before tasting. Sure, it's childish, but not particularly more or less unhealthy than sticking to their favorites. Also, kids often convince themselves that they hate something they might otherwise enjoy if forced. You still need for force them to try healthy foods of all stripes at times, but it can backfire: pick your battles, is what I'm saying.)

As a side note, some systems, like FATE, are so easy it's actually less work to learn them than to PLAY an average game of Pathfinder.

Anyway, that argument can be made (even though I disagree with it an still consider it close-minded and childish) for mechanics, but not for setting. If you read a setting, you obviously enjoy it, but won't play anything other than medieval european high fantasy? Really? I call BS.

The d20 system is available in so g%+#&+n many settings it's not even funny. They wouldn't even consider Starfinder, and that's practically just Pathfinder with lasers.

Besides that, these are people who will...

this is why it is important to keep a stable of games for a group of gamers, and not a stable of gamers for a group of games, if you take my meaning.


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Personally, I've seen enough Tolkien high fantasy crap from ALL of my sibling's campaign settings to last a lifetime.

I'd try out a different game if someone else brought it, in my experience there's not a huge difference between RPG systems.


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I hope that you feel better soon Tact.


John Napier 698 wrote:
Pick up a free module from the download store. Something like one of the We be Goblins modules.

That would be doing exactly what I just said I don't want to do.


H'mm.

Smoked Stilton
Jarlsberg
Gruyere.


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Freehold DM wrote:
this is why it is important to keep a stable of games for a group of gamers, and not a stable of gamers for a group of games, if you take my meaning

No I don't really understand.

I play with these people on FantasyGrounds and Discord cause nobody locally is looking for players. My town has 3000 people. My county has maybe 35K.

Unless you know a virtual group looking for players, I'm out of luck.

Everything I find online is PbP. I've tried and just can't stay interested. It's so... PbP is just...it's not as good. It's kinda crappy honestly. The medium falls short in so many ways.


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~groans~ Great! Just great! My cat's kidney functions are getting worse. She might be going through kidney failure. I do not want to bury a third furry four legged kid this year. I really do not.


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Finally, another pbp hater! I thought I was the only one.


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Mature cheddar. Camembert, brie. Some sort of nice Bavarian cheese that Lidl has. The thing that is sold in Poland as Gouda, though it varies terribly and does not necessarily has much with an actual Gouda (which I don't think I have tasted).


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
Pick up a free module from the download store. Something like one of the We be Goblins modules.
That would be doing exactly what I just said I don't want to do.

Sorry.


captain yesterday wrote:
Finally, another pbp hater! I thought I was the only one.

I keep trying. I'm even running one with a story I crafted over years but just participating in that is an act of will because the medium is just awful.

I'm like a short term memory patient who keeps sipping at a disgusting drink every few minutes hoping the flavor has changed...or maybe I'm so thirsty I try to convince myself it's not as bad as not drinking...but in a way it is.


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Cheddar is popular here!


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John Napier 698 wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
Pick up a free module from the download store. Something like one of the We be Goblins modules.
That would be doing exactly what I just said I don't want to do.
Sorry.

No worries mate. You were trying to help. Thought that counts. :)


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Sharoth wrote:
~groans~ Great! Just great! My cat's kidney functions are getting worse. She might be going through kidney failure. I do not want to bury a third furry four legged kid this year. I really do not.

this is a truly awful time for you. I'm sorry.


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After 8 months at my current job I'm now making over double of what I made per hour after 5 and a half years at Toys R Us.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Finally, another pbp hater! I thought I was the only one.

I keep trying. I'm even running one with a story I crafted over years but just participating in that is an act of will because the medium is just awful.

I'm like a short term memory patient who keeps sipping at a disgusting drink every few minutes hoping the flavor has changed...or maybe I'm so thirsty I try to convince myself it's not as bad as not drinking...but in a way it is.

That's okay, I've never even tried it.


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Hope moggo gets better soon, Sharoth.

Scarab Sages

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Sharoth wrote:
~groans~ Great! Just great! My cat's kidney functions are getting worse. She might be going through kidney failure. I do not want to bury a third furry four legged kid this year. I really do not.

Oh no poor kitty :(


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Spent all afternoon writing Job/Task Safety/Hazard/Risk Analyses. I hate working by committee, especially when the other committeepeople have no sense of consistency. Or time. And who give me sloppy squirrely dictation to type. After I spent hours doing all the preliminary work.

It crushes my soul.

TGIF


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I'm honestly not sure how to respond to TVE's complaints as ... well, I'm kinda one of those people. 3.5/PF is my system of choice and my typical preference for gaming mechanics, mostly because it's what I've already invested a bunch of time and money into learning and what I've gotten a fair amount of mastery at.

Moving to a new system feels like starting from scratch. It's one of the reasons I've been rather meh about PF2.

That said, I really don't see the reluctance to at least try a different setting, even if you're sticking to the standard d20 mechanics. But I've always been a big fan of sci-fantasy and MagiTek and all that other stuff blending other genres into and through typical Tolkinien fantasy worlds, so I'm hardly an unbiased viewer in that regard either.


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My favourites are super schlocky sword & sorcery and Barsoomalikes, though trad D&D also works fine.


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I could do with more space-fantasy-ventures, yeah. And more undersea ones, while we're wishing.


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Sharoth wrote:
I hope that you feel better soon Tact.

You are kind, my dude. I'll be fine. You're family is the one having it rough.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Spent all afternoon writing Job/Task Safety/Hazard/Risk Analyses.

Ooh, yeah, that's rough. Sorry to h-

Tequila Sunrise wrote:
I hate working by committee, especially when the other committeepeople have no sense of consistency.

Oh. Sorry. I j-

Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Or time.

Uh, oh. S-sorry.

Tequila Sunrise wrote:
And who give me sloppy squirrely dictation to type.

Yyyeah, sorr-

Tequila Sunrise wrote:
After I spent hours doing all the preliminary work.

... I'm sorry on behalf of us all.

Tequila Sunrise wrote:
It crushes my soul.

But I thought souls were squishy and kind of slippery!


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Orthos wrote:

I'm honestly not sure how to respond to TVE's complaints as ... well, I'm kinda one of those people. 3.5/PF is my system of choice and my typical preference for gaming mechanics, mostly because it's what I've already invested a bunch of time and money into learning and what I've gotten a fair amount of mastery at.

Moving to a new system feels like starting from scratch. It's one of the reasons I've been rather meh about PF2.

That said, I really don't see the reluctance to at least try a different setting, even if you're sticking to the standard d20 mechanics. But I've always been a big fan of sci-fantasy and MagiTek and all that other stuff blending other genres into and through typical Tolkinien fantasy worlds, so I'm hardly an unbiased viewer in that regard either.

We have a friend who almost had an allergic reaction to the idea of a sci-fantasy or anything-involving-"punk" game.

And, frankly, I get it. He's just not interested.

It's a hard concept to grasp for people (who, like me) prefer a large swath of genres in various media, but people have strong ingrained preferences that can lead to extreme distaste for various elements that don't belong to specific genres - even if they don't dislike that others like them, it bears no interest for them.

And, while,

The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
As a side note, some systems, like FATE, are so easy it's actually less work to learn them than to PLAY an average game of Pathfinder.

... might seem true, and might even be true on one level, the problem isn't so much the idea of how "hard" something is to do.

After all, you want to know one of the easiest things in the world? Talking. Talking is also a thing that is generally done with, you know, people. That doesn't make extreme introverts bad people, or display a weakness of character (though it's also reasonable that if you want to do something with someone and they're just not feeling it that could be frustrating: even if you don't blame the person in question or hold anger against them, it can still be emotionally quite frustrating).

And finding enough interest in a new system/genre/etc. can, surprisingly, be the same way.

The reasons why are many and varied and, frankly, too much so to capture in a small post like this one. A few examples (non-exhaustive) include: personal interest limitations, what equates to Pavlovian conditioning (in both positive and negative values), traditionalism and habitualization (which, amusingly, can take root in even the most intentionally individualist and/or counter-culturalist or whatever the word is: you get it of folks), training (cultural and incidental training; rarely, oustide of psionics, do people train others to hate specific elements of gaming), and so on.

But it's a hard thing to have understanding of when you don't relate. And that difficulty with understanding goes two ways.


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I'll try anything once (RPG wise, just to be suuuuper clear)


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I guess I get that inherent dislike, to a certain degree...there are things I just dislike, but the opposite makes my face contort like I bit into a concentrated super-lemon. To only like one is so...too much.

I will say, I'm not a huge fan of other people's homebrew worlds. Not because I have to have preformatted universes, but because they almost never go through the serious in-depth delving and lore you find in a fully fleshed out published world. I know that amateurs who put that kind of detail in do exist, but they haven't run games for me.

An example - a GM who had a steampunk world where mages built a basic anti-god engine, because in the past the gods almost wiped out sentient life because they weren't devoted enough.

So I pointed out that it was really a narrow-minded view of deification, that seemed like it was centered around a Greco-Roman idealism of deities, where all are capricious, self-centered dicks, and there were no true good gods, ignoring a whole swathe of polytheistic religions that contained generally decent deities. He argued that even the good ones were in on this destruction, and refused to relent when I pointed out that such an action was, in of itself, supremely evil. He also stated that it was all, 100%, not any missing, all of the gods in on this murder-boner they had. (Obvious atheist's obvious anti-religious leanings bleed through into universe. He has a very narrow view of religious people.)

I then told him I wanted to play a sleeper agent cleric or inquisitor or the like who had plans to get on the inside of the city and destroy said machines. He said only one nation had anyone religious. Really? Nobody in this entire nation of apostates became religious for rebellion's sake? For curiosity as to why there are giant machines that cancel a very specific type of magic? Nobody ever comes or goes? No trade with the outside world at all? His responses grew ever more clipped and annoyed, and when I pointed out we have this kind of thing happen in our own universe, (example 9/11) where things like nondetection spells and the like don't exist, he finally got frustrated and was like "It's my world man, it works the way I say" - which to me really destroys suspension of disbelief.

And there's one more reason I like pre-existing universes. I can delve into tons of lore, history, cultural preferences, and more. I spent more than ten times reading the lore of Legend of the Five Rings than I did the entire ruleset. It really helps me get into building a character to know the universe around him - and unless you have a massive Wiki I can look over that amounts to the multiple PDFs I can read for some existing universes, like Golarion, Forgotten Realms, or Dragonlance, in the example of your traditional high fantasy, I severely doubt you can attest for all the nuances I love to learn about in an RPG.

Grand Lodge

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I pretty much only play 3.x when I'm gaming. I have tried Warhammer fantasy and 4E D&D a couple times but never got into it. I wouldn't mind trying a different system but the hassle of learning the rules is a barrier. I play board games mostly because other people already know the rules and I only have to pick up what I need to be a player rather than the whole thing. Settings don't matter a whit on the other hand.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

I guess I get that inherent dislike, to a certain degree...there are things I just dislike, but the opposite makes my face contort like I bit into a concentrated super-lemon. To only like one is so...too much.

I will say, I'm not a huge fan of other people's homebrew worlds. Not because I have to have preformatted universes, but because they almost never go through the serious in-depth delving and lore you find in a fully fleshed out published world. I know that amateurs who put that kind of detail in do exist, but they haven't run games for me.

An example - a GM who had a steampunk world where mages built a basic anti-god engine, because in the past the gods almost wiped out sentient life because they weren't devoted enough.

So I pointed out that it was really a narrow-minded view of deification, that seemed like it was centered around a Greco-Roman idealism of deities, where all are capricious, self-centered dicks, and there were no true good gods, ignoring a whole swathe of polytheistic religions that contained generally decent deities. He argued that even the good ones were in on this destruction, and refused to relent when I pointed out that such an action was, in of itself, supremely evil. He also stated that it was all, 100%, not any missing, all of the gods in on this murder-boner they had. (Obvious atheist's obvious anti-religious leanings bleed through into universe. He has a very narrow view of religious people.)

I then told him I wanted to play a sleeper agent cleric or inquisitor or the like who had plans to get on the inside of the city and destroy said machines. He said only one nation had anyone religious. Really? Nobody in this entire nation of apostates became religious for rebellion's sake? For curiosity as to why there are giant machines that cancel a very specific type of magic? Nobody ever comes or goes? No trade with the outside world at all? His responses grew ever more clipped and annoyed, and when I pointed out we have this kind of thing happen in our own...

the same problems you have with this homebrew are the same problems I have with pre built worlds. Why hasn't elminster destroyed szass tam again? Or the good gods killed Cyric?


Freehold DM wrote:
the same problems you have with this homebrew are the same problems I have with pre built worlds. Why hasn't elminster destroyed szass tam again? Or the good gods killed Cyric?

1) He's a lich; he gets better (also high level spells, and I think Szass is technically higher level, or at least higher CL). Also, if Elminster assassinated Szass, he'd then have to immediately take on a nation of mages (and one of the top five most populated nations, at that) and be out of magic, or nearly so. That will liiiiiikely not end well. Also, a dude's gotta rest sometimes.

2) Gods rarely profit from face-to-face conflict and don't tend to go murdering their peers (much like mortals tend to have qualms about murdering fellow mortals); nonetheless, Cyric has survived multiple assassination attempts, has a few strong allies (because he's a useful patsy) and not only did at least one god (really more than one) try to kill him (and fail, merely strengthening him), but also they even put him on trial using every loophole they could... a trial which he passed due to a similar loophole. As an aside, because of those assassination attempts? One of the most powerful gods there were, to the point that it took three greater deities working together to imprison him, and it was only kiiiiiiiiinda effective (though, to be fair, Mystra was dead, so... said gods had less things working in their favor in that regard).

I'm a helper!

EDIT: that said, were I that guy, I might have gotten grumpy, too. Valid criticism and constructive criticism are two different things, but generally work to build up, you know? Or state outright that you're just not interested in the premise and see if he's willing to play (or run!) a different game. Either of those would be more likely to get the results you're looking for, over-all. But, much like with genre conventions, creators can have hard times letting alterations apply to their worlds. I know sometimes I won't like a thing, but I'll sit on it for a good year or so, then go, "Huh. Yeah, actually, that is better, and I can see why." (Or sometimes I'll just ignore it. You know. Depending on my conclusions.) While major anti-religious conceits can be bothersome at times (I can't tell you guys how many "all gods are dumb, and fake, and here's why" lectures around gaming tables) I can get the desire for such things, and can even see a limited amount of acceptance, but you also have to understand - or at least be able to present - a broadly differing view of morality, or you've got to expect that you'll run into pretty heavy pushback (or, more likely, both). That's just people rules.

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