Vanykrye |
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Week and change left till break. So now the kid who's basically been a bump on a log all semester is worried about failing.
My first wife...I'll call her...Lilith...was a teacher for a couple years. Her first job was at a rural district teaching K-12 band and general music.
The first semester she turned in the grades and was asked about a couple of students by the principal.
"Did you send out a mid-semester report to the parents for these two kids?"
No. We only give those reports if the student is receiving a D or F. Both of them were getting a C at the time, and then did not turn in any work for the entire 2nd quarter. So they failed.
"You can't fail them. You didn't send the parents a report indicating that they were in danger of failing."
Um...what?
EDIT: Clarification: the school policy was that the mid-semester report only went to students receiving a D or F at that point in the year. If you were getting a C the report didn't go to your house. Period.
Tacticslion |
Vanykrye wrote:NobodysHome wrote:lisamarlene wrote:FIVE.
We're going to have our "Winter Concert" next Wednesday evening (the last day of school). But since the school's Board of Directors mandated that, because we have students from a variety of faith traditions, including "none of the above", no song that mentions, or is sung for a holiday celebrated by, any religion is permitted.
So the choir director has my class, combined with Val's, singing two random folk songs in Spanish, and "The Lion Sleeps Tonight".
Hermione's class is singing "Don't Stop Believing" by Journey.It should be... interesting.
Yeah, it's FaWtL, so I won't go off on how stupid, "Refuse to acknowledge any religion exists," as compared to, say, educating your students that there's more than one religion.
I always loved Saint Mary's for being a Catholic school that required students to take Comparative Religion so they would actually, y'know, know that there were other religions out there...
To expound on my low bar - hopefully without getting Fritzy suited up.
You are absolutely correct. But. In the case of Texas - their state school board, their state legislature, and basically any institution that gets public funds within - I consider this "inclusion by exclusion" to be *progress* for that state. One small step among many to take. This is still somehow better than what they usually do.
It's also a private school and pretty liberal. The big walkathon fundraiser the kids did this fall was for the humanitarian respite center down at the border. Hermione's class is doing a stuffed animal drive for Christmas to send down there for all the kids who show up with nothing but the clothes on their backs. Our tennis coach is taking them down when she goes to volunteer over the vacation.
So, yeah, they're going way overboard with the concert rules. I for one wouldn't mind if we had songs for Christmas, Hannukah, Solstice, Eid, and...
She should do Mabel’s cover.
TriOmegaZero |
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Sorry to hear that TOZ. I hope she finds something at another school.
The market is very open, but she's bounced around so much and found so many terrible office environments I'm worried she's going to run out of options. She does have the rest of the school year to hunt at least, but it's an uncertainty that will affect our travel decisions in 2019.
Tequila Sunrise |
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Vanykrye wrote:NobodysHome wrote:lisamarlene wrote:FIVE.
We're going to have our "Winter Concert" next Wednesday evening (the last day of school). But since the school's Board of Directors mandated that, because we have students from a variety of faith traditions, including "none of the above", no song that mentions, or is sung for a holiday celebrated by, any religion is permitted.
So the choir director has my class, combined with Val's, singing two random folk songs in Spanish, and "The Lion Sleeps Tonight".
Hermione's class is singing "Don't Stop Believing" by Journey.It should be... interesting.
Yeah, it's FaWtL, so I won't go off on how stupid, "Refuse to acknowledge any religion exists," as compared to, say, educating your students that there's more than one religion.
I always loved Saint Mary's for being a Catholic school that required students to take Comparative Religion so they would actually, y'know, know that there were other religions out there...
To expound on my low bar - hopefully without getting Fritzy suited up.
You are absolutely correct. But. In the case of Texas - their state school board, their state legislature, and basically any institution that gets public funds within - I consider this "inclusion by exclusion" to be *progress* for that state. One small step among many to take. This is still somehow better than what they usually do.
It's also a private school and pretty liberal. The big walkathon fundraiser the kids did this fall was for the humanitarian respite center down at the border. Hermione's class is doing a stuffed animal drive for Christmas to send down there for all the kids who show up with nothing but the clothes on their backs. Our tennis coach is taking them down when she goes to volunteer over the vacation.
So, yeah, they're going way overboard with the concert rules. I for one wouldn't mind if we had songs for Christmas, Hannukah, Solstice, Eid, and anything else someone wanted to celebrate. I wouldn't mind if a group of middle school kids did Dar Williams' "The Christians and the Pagans", which is a wonderful, funny, sweet song that ought to be a holiday standard.
But NO JOURNEY.
As a man who listens to one holiday/Xmas album, and one only, I'd be happy to hear a bit of Journey during my holiday season. Even if sung by somewhat irregular kids. :)
I'm curious what others find so objectionable about keeping religious paraphenalia out of school. I mean maybe it's better to include cultural widgets from several religions in the festivities -- maybe -- but given the narrow nets that doing so can result in, I can hardly object to keeping things a-religious.
Like for example, I took a mandatory comparative religion class at the catholic college I went to. It turned out to be a really interesting class despite my initial gut reaction of "I'm here to become an engineer, not a theologian!" But I had to go out of my way to write my term paper about Buddhism, because the class stuck exclusively to the big monotheistic 3. More inclusive than sticking to catholicism or even to christianity, but hardly what I'd call an exemplary overview of religion.
But I'm open to changing my opinion.
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Tequila Sunrise wrote:Hi all, it's been a few days, what did I miss?
I'm reading The Hero with a Thousand Faces (the origin of the Monomyth), and it's really useful for story brainstorming. But I am not a fan of the writing style. Just tell me what you mean, don't start every chapter with the flowery woowoo metaphors...
I haven't read that, but I will if I can pick up a copy for around £3, even though I tried to read one of Campbell's other books and gave up due to the intensity of the Jungian universal unconscious mysticky b+~*+%@s therein.
In fact, the library might have it. Will have a look at lunchtime.
Lol, you might get similarly frustrated with Hero..., and I'll be interested what you think either way. Honestly I'm not reading it all, just a couple of pages into each chapter, until I understand what he's getting at. Except I'm sure I'm missing stuff in the process.
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I'm curious what others find so objectionable about keeping religious paraphenalia out of school. I mean maybe it's better to include cultural widgets from several religions in the festivities -- maybe -- but given the narrow nets that doing so can result in, I can hardly object to keeping things a-religious.
It's not keeping religion out of school per se; it's the ham-handed manner in which they do it.
I cut out almost everything I said because of FaWtL rules, but in short:
If you're going to have a "holiday pageant" where kids sing celebratory holiday songs, and then you tell them that many of their favorite songs are disallowed because they're actually religious propaganda, you're going to make people upset.
Our choir director avoided the whole thing and just had a "winter concert" themed on colors. It was a lot of fun, and didn't mention holidays at all, so no feelings were hurt. So it's possible to keep religion out of the discussion, but most schools handle it extremely poorly and do the whole, "It's a holiday celebration! But not YOUR holiday!" thing, and it always feels like an attack on long-established holidays. Is it any wonder those attacked get angry and defensive?
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lisamarlene wrote:actually, the idea of a woman who is naked but for her apron is a noted fetish in Japan. I cant quite remember the name of it, but it is associated with domestic-type women being amorous while cooking.(Good thing I was wearing my special baking apron.)
(Dresses.)
Try that in my kitchen, you might get stabbed.
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Freehold DM wrote:Try that in my kitchen, you might get stabbed.lisamarlene wrote:actually, the idea of a woman who is naked but for her apron is a noted fetish in Japan. I cant quite remember the name of it, but it is associated with domestic-type women being amorous while cooking.(Good thing I was wearing my special baking apron.)
(Dresses.)
but..but...apron...
NobodysHome |
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lisamarlene wrote:but..but...apron...Freehold DM wrote:Try that in my kitchen, you might get stabbed.lisamarlene wrote:actually, the idea of a woman who is naked but for her apron is a noted fetish in Japan. I cant quite remember the name of it, but it is associated with domestic-type women being amorous while cooking.(Good thing I was wearing my special baking apron.)
(Dresses.)
I believe in this case you spell it "butt".
Freehold DM |
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Freehold DM wrote:I believe in this case you spell it "butt".lisamarlene wrote:but..but...apron...Freehold DM wrote:Try that in my kitchen, you might get stabbed.lisamarlene wrote:actually, the idea of a woman who is naked but for her apron is a noted fetish in Japan. I cant quite remember the name of it, but it is associated with domestic-type women being amorous while cooking.(Good thing I was wearing my special baking apron.)
(Dresses.)
yes, shapely posteriors are a part of this fetish, as is the outline of the female form offered on the apron-side.
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Freehold, replace “Japan” with “in almost every country in which cooking women wear aprons” - I don’t even look for stuff like that and I’m aware it’s a “thing”...
oh?
I have yet to see if displayed as a prominent, unique fetish elsewhere where they were not emulating what I have seen in Japan. Can you give me some examples?
Tacticslion |
Tacticslion wrote:Freehold, replace “Japan” with “in almost every country in which cooking women wear aprons” - I don’t even look for stuff like that and I’m aware it’s a “thing”...oh?
I have yet to see if displayed as a prominent, unique fetish elsewhere where they were not emulating what I have seen in Japan. Can you give me some examples?
I dunno, like... look for it? I mean, like, it’s been a thing since I was a kid and wasn’t even fully aware of what such things were (adults chatting and laughing about such) in Europe, US, and Asia (and note: I have never been to Japan, this vastly predates the Internet, and “tentacles” was never a concept associated with sexuality).
Japan May have enshrined it, but they do that to, like, everything.
R&B singers, Russian art, most definitely one of those 80s movies cy doesn’t care for (I think it had John Candy?), whatever - the fetish is built out of the idealization of domesticity and it’s conflation with femininity; the apron-thing is only one of its expressions, but it’s pretty widespread. Saying, “it’s a fetish in Japan” is like saying, “capitalism is big in Japan” - yeah, sure, but it comes from somewhere else and was adopted and stylized there. Japan does that, like, all the time. (And
Other places may now be picking stuff up, but that’s just because Japan is good at fetishization.
Tacticslion |
The only naked butt I've seen under a cooking apron was Stellan Skarsgard's in Mamma Mia, and it didn't do anything for me.
It’s not particularly my wheelhouse either; but as a related point: several years ago a friend of ours had an adult joke about it she told - she has nothing to do with and zero exposure to Japanese anything, and is both traditional and mononational.
(It wasn’t particularly dirty, for the record - it was more a funny anecdote about being a parent and trying to explain things to your kids in a clean way than a “joke,” really - but it acknowledge the fetish as existing, without any sort of Japanese inference or awareness.)And that’s kind of the thing. If I, who have had next to zero interest in such things am aware enough of its existence through osmosis-exposure, it seems like it’s ubiquitous “enough”...?
The Vagrant Erudite |
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lisamarlene wrote:actually, the idea of a woman who is naked but for her apron is a noted fetish in Japan. I cant quite remember the name of it, but it is associated with domestic-type women being amorous while cooking.(Good thing I was wearing my special baking apron.)
(Dresses.)
I didn't know this was a thing, but now I want to get my girlfriend an apron for Christmas...um...for unrelated reasons...
Freehold DM |
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Freehold DM wrote:Tacticslion wrote:Freehold, replace “Japan” with “in almost every country in which cooking women wear aprons” - I don’t even look for stuff like that and I’m aware it’s a “thing”...oh?
I have yet to see if displayed as a prominent, unique fetish elsewhere where they were not emulating what I have seen in Japan. Can you give me some examples?
I dunno, like... look for it? I mean, like, it’s been a thing since I was a kid and wasn’t even fully aware of what such things were (adults chatting and laughing about such) in Europe, US, and Asia (and note: I have never been to Japan, this vastly predates the Internet, and “tentacles” was never a concept associated with sexuality).
Japan May have enshrined it, but they do that to, like, everything.
R&B singers, Russian art, most definitely one of those 80s movies cy doesn’t care for (I think it had John Candy?), whatever - the fetish is built out of the idealization of domesticity and it’s conflation with femininity; the apron-thing is only one of its expressions, but it’s pretty widespread. Saying, “it’s a fetish in Japan” is like saying, “capitalism is big in Japan” - yeah, sure, but it comes from somewhere else and was adopted and stylized there. Japan does that, like, all the time. (And
Other places may now be picking stuff up, but that’s just because Japan is good at fetishization.
hm.
I will research.
puts sex research hat on, fires up internet
The game is afoot.
No, not that kind of fetish. We're looking up apron fetishes here.
Tequila Sunrise |
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Tequila Sunrise wrote:I'm curious what others find so objectionable about keeping religious paraphenalia out of school. I mean maybe it's better to include cultural widgets from several religions in the festivities -- maybe -- but given the narrow nets that doing so can result in, I can hardly object to keeping things a-religious.It's not keeping religion out of school per se; it's the ham-handed manner in which they do it.
I cut out almost everything I said because of FaWtL rules, but in short:
If you're going to have a "holiday pageant" where kids sing celebratory holiday songs, and then you tell them that many of their favorite songs are disallowed because they're actually religious propaganda, you're going to make people upset.Our choir director avoided the whole thing and just had a "winter concert" themed on colors. It was a lot of fun, and didn't mention holidays at all, so no feelings were hurt. So it's possible to keep religion out of the discussion, but most schools handle it extremely poorly and do the whole, "It's a holiday celebration! But not YOUR holiday!" thing, and it always feels like an attack on long-established holidays. Is it any wonder those attacked get angry and defensive?
So calling it a 'holiday' whatever gets people in the mood, only to be frustrated when none of their favorite holiday stuff happens? Whereas calling it a 'winter' whatever sets an a-religious expectation, so everyone gets what they expect? Fair enough.
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Just got the call; I got the job!
I start on the 7th. Finally! It's been months. All we need to do is squeak out one more and I can finally contribute again, and get back to paying off all my debt and climbing out of this hole. I wish I did earlier, so I could get some of that sweet, sweet holiday pay, but hey...take what you can get, no?
I can't thank you guys enough for your support in all of this.
Wohoo! Congratulations!
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TOZ: Did Cyz think about switching careers? Again I know I may be biased. I'm a failed teacher who switched to an office job and since it's been this many years, I'm not ashamed to admit that.
She has entertained the idea of going back for a HR bachelors and will also be looking at other markets during her job hunt.
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Tacticslion wrote:Freehold DM wrote:Tacticslion wrote:Freehold, replace “Japan” with “in almost every country in which cooking women wear aprons” - I don’t even look for stuff like that and I’m aware it’s a “thing”...oh?
I have yet to see if displayed as a prominent, unique fetish elsewhere where they were not emulating what I have seen in Japan. Can you give me some examples?
I dunno, like... look for it? I mean, like, it’s been a thing since I was a kid and wasn’t even fully aware of what such things were (adults chatting and laughing about such) in Europe, US, and Asia (and note: I have never been to Japan, this vastly predates the Internet, and “tentacles” was never a concept associated with sexuality).
Japan May have enshrined it, but they do that to, like, everything.
R&B singers, Russian art, most definitely one of those 80s movies cy doesn’t care for (I think it had John Candy?), whatever - the fetish is built out of the idealization of domesticity and it’s conflation with femininity; the apron-thing is only one of its expressions, but it’s pretty widespread. Saying, “it’s a fetish in Japan” is like saying, “capitalism is big in Japan” - yeah, sure, but it comes from somewhere else and was adopted and stylized there. Japan does that, like, all the time. (And
Other places may now be picking stuff up, but that’s just because Japan is good at fetishization.
hm.
I will research.
puts sex research hat on, fires up internet
The game is afoot.
No, not that kind of fetish. We're looking up apron fetishes here.
takes off hat
Hmm.
HOWEVER, on the apron erotica reddit, I DID find some vintage apron erotica, which would substantiate your claim, tacticslion. However this exists in very, very small numbers.
To sum up, apron erotica exists outside of Japan. However it exists in such small amounts, it seems that Japan would be the place to go to explore this fetish on a large(r) scale.
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Just a Mort wrote:TOZ: Did Cyz think about switching careers? Again I know I may be biased. I'm a failed teacher who switched to an office job and since it's been this many years, I'm not ashamed to admit that.She has entertained the idea of going back for a HR bachelors and will also be looking at other markets during her job hunt.
Best of luck to her. This could turn out to be a blessing in disguise when she's offered a much better job for more money.
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I figure her psychology masters should allow her to fill in somewhere else even if it isn't directly related. She's got years of organizational experience managing meetings and reports. I know she'll be fine, it's just the stress of it all.
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Freehold DM wrote:Tacticslion wrote:Freehold DM wrote:Tacticslion wrote:Freehold, replace “Japan” with “in almost every country in which cooking women wear aprons” - I don’t even look for stuff like that and I’m aware it’s a “thing”...oh?
I have yet to see if displayed as a prominent, unique fetish elsewhere where they were not emulating what I have seen in Japan. Can you give me some examples?
I dunno, like... look for it? I mean, like, it’s been a thing since I was a kid and wasn’t even fully aware of what such things were (adults chatting and laughing about such) in Europe, US, and Asia (and note: I have never been to Japan, this vastly predates the Internet, and “tentacles” was never a concept associated with sexuality).
Japan May have enshrined it, but they do that to, like, everything.
R&B singers, Russian art, most definitely one of those 80s movies cy doesn’t care for (I think it had John Candy?), whatever - the fetish is built out of the idealization of domesticity and it’s conflation with femininity; the apron-thing is only one of its expressions, but it’s pretty widespread. Saying, “it’s a fetish in Japan” is like saying, “capitalism is big in Japan” - yeah, sure, but it comes from somewhere else and was adopted and stylized there. Japan does that, like, all the time. (And
Other places may now be picking stuff up, but that’s just because Japan is good at fetishization.
hm.
I will research.
puts sex research hat on, fires up internet
The game is afoot.
No, not that kind of fetish. We're looking up apron fetishes here.
takes off hat
Hmm.
** spoiler omitted **...
And now you all know what to get Freehold for his fortieth birthday in eight days!
Milkmaids in aprons, jumping out of cake! And a trip to Japan, for (cough) "research" purposes!Just a Mort |
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Bank epic credit card fail.
November statement some credit card bills, which I paid off promptly. Because I'm that kind of cat.
December credit card statement shows overdue and late payment charges for that same credit card. Statement date is 3 December 2018, and they say the charges are due in November?
What the hell, bank?
If you don't waive my late payment charges I'm going to yowl very, very, loudly.
How am I supposed to pay bills that I wasn't aware off?
If it was due in November, it should have appeared in the November Statement.
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So, yes, I was an alcoholic for 10 years. On the other hand, the e-mail from our video production department this afternoon came as quite a shocker:
"Your recordings from 2015 required many edits that, had they been missed, would have gotten the editors in quite a bit of trouble. Please refrain from yelling, swearing, or bodily functions such as belching during the recordings."
So... lisamarlene knows me very well. There is NO WAY that he's thinking of recordings that I did. I am obsessive-compulsive about my professionalism, and even in my personal life I virtually never swear nor raise my voice.
So I'm getting blamed for someone else's foibles. Ah, well, it means he'll be really impressed at how professional I am this go-round.
Tacticslion |
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:Wohoo! Congratulations!Just got the call; I got the job!
I start on the 7th. Finally! It's been months. All we need to do is squeak out one more and I can finally contribute again, and get back to paying off all my debt and climbing out of this hole. I wish I did earlier, so I could get some of that sweet, sweet holiday pay, but hey...take what you can get, no?
I can't thank you guys enough for your support in all of this.
WOO~!
Vanykrye wrote:Zelda has been offered, and she has accepted, a promotion and a raise. She went from #2 person in Dept A to Director of Dept B.
\o/
\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
WOO~!
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So, yes, I was an alcoholic for 10 years. On the other hand, the e-mail from our video production department this afternoon came as quite a shocker:
"Your recordings from 2015 required many edits that, had they been missed, would have gotten the editors in quite a bit of trouble. Please refrain from yelling, swearing, or bodily functions such as belching during the recordings."So... lisamarlene knows me very well. There is NO WAY that he's thinking of recordings that I did. I am obsessive-compulsive about my professionalism, and even in my personal life I virtually never swear nor raise my voice.
So I'm getting blamed for someone else's foibles. Ah, well, it means he'll be really impressed at how professional I am this go-round.
Umm... as I recall, you tend to get quieter, even *more* reserved and on your dignity when drinking.
I have never seen you belch, swear, or yell. Even at Teensy Valeros, even when he deserved it.
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The first reaction of mine for being called out for something I never did would be a whole series of swear words ^^
Yeah I should learn to watch my language.
You should ask him, did you get the wrong video, dude?
Simple min-maxing:
(1) If I do not respond, then do a good job, he is impressed, assumes I have reformed, and both he and I are happy(2) If I respond and am correct, I make him look the fool, and having to work with him for the next two weeks will be uncomfortable
(3) If I respond and am incorrect, I will be mortified.
Option (1) maximizes everyone's happiness, and only requires a bit of silence on my part for the moment.
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Just a Mort wrote:The first reaction of mine for being called out for something I never did would be a whole series of swear words ^^
Yeah I should learn to watch my language.
You should ask him, did you get the wrong video, dude?
Simple min-maxing:
(1) If I do not respond, then do a good job, he is impressed, assumes I have reformed, and both he and I are happy
(2) If I respond and am correct, I make him look the fool, and having to work with him for the next two weeks will be uncomfortable
(3) If I respond and am incorrect, I will be mortified.Option (1) maximizes everyone's happiness, and only requires a bit of silence on my part for the moment.
To me it'd be option 2 because idiocy needs to be corrected. Why should you take the blame for something you didn't do? I mean my reaction to the bank credit card statement pretty much says that. Which yes I spent some time yelling at the bank yesterday. Because they'd keep trying to call me and when I call back, no one answers. Every fking day of the week.