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I don't drink, otherwise this happens.


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I don't need to drink, I stumble and sway enough as is!

Oh my goods and services!


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We got PlayStation plus and then let Crookshanks download Fortnite.

Now she to can know the frustration of pvp.


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I don’t drink really. I have much the same trouble as drejk with the why are you making yourself motion sick on purpose problem. I used to enjoy an occasional glass of wine or cider, but aside from a small glass at Christmas to make my sister in law happy I don’t anymore because it makes my blood sugar too high. I’ve never really been one to notice peer pressure let alone be swayed by it so I’ve probably offended a few people along the way due to sheer social obliviousness about the whole drinking culture. But if I don’t want to then you may as well argue with the wall as argue with me. :P

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NH wrote:

"No, thank you! I'm full!"
"Oh, I'm sure you can find room for just one more piece! It's delicious!"

My mom does that to me and it screws up my diet plans >.<

About drinking, well I'm always happy to drink if the alcohol's free =)

I am NOT an alcoholic, I spend most of my time without drinks since Singapore has really high alcohol tax.

Also, even I drink, I won't drink to the point I lose control of myself, and if I hit my limits I will tell my hosts, politely so.

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We told Hi that since we don't drink much, we don't know the bar scene in Singapore. But I told him if he wanted to crash bars, I could pull up some of my local connections. He said that nah, its fine.

Our entire time with him was totally alcohol free.

I mean I don't know much about drinking, but if people want to drink, I don't see an issue with that. The only issue is I don't know how to deal with drunk people, since I'm a little small to go hauling people's @rses around.

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I was very amused when I found out that the players I previously ran gestalt campaigns for were caucasians and didn't drink. I thought it was the caucasians that drank and the reserved Asians that didn't.. instead it was the other way round.

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I ever made a character based on this song.


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I occasionally drink. These days, I usually have one beer with a meal on Saturdays. I try to avoid hangovers, since the last time I had one, it hit me like a migraine and left me incapacitated for most of that day.

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Just a Mort wrote:
I mean I don't know much about drinking, but if people want to drink, I don't see an issue with that.

The problem, at least in parts of the US and with certain groups, is the opposite of this.

There is an expectation by some people that if some people are drinking, everyone MUST drink. And if you refuse to drink - regardless of your reasons, with the occasional exception of being a recovering alcoholic, that and "I'm the designated driver" are the only answers I've seen consistently get people to back off - you are very, very, VERY roughly pressured to do so anyway.

And I do mean, regardless of your reasons. If you have a moral reason for not drinking, the response is usually "One drink won't hurt you, you need to loosen up!". Medical reasons are usually met with the same, again unless it's dealing with an addiction. Personal dislike is met with "You just need to find the kind of alcohol you like!". Etc. etc. etc.


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Just a Mort wrote:

We told Hi that since we don't drink much, we don't know the bar scene in Singapore. But I told him if he wanted to crash bars, I could pull up some of my local connections. He said that nah, its fine.

Our entire time with him was totally alcohol free.

I mean I don't know much about drinking, but if people want to drink, I don't see an issue with that. The only issue is I don't know how to deal with drunk people, since I'm a little small to go hauling people's @rses around.

Hi is hilarious.

He rarely drinks, and when he does, it's usually only just enough to get a light buzz.

But when we used to do Forbidden Island (a tiki bar), I (the alcoholic who wouldn't drink in public) would be the designated driver and stay sober, while Shiro and Hi would get anywhere from tipsy to roaring drunk.

Then the two of them (6'3" and 6'4", respectively) would get on either side of me, lean on my 5'6" frame, and stagger the 2 miles to Tucker's Ice Cream.

By the time we'd walked there and back and driven back to my place, they were finally sober enough to drive.

And in, "Facts you didn't need to know about NobodysHome", I was raised by backpackers for whom dehydration was a real and lethal threat. So for as long as I remember, I was told, "If you're not peeing every hour, you're not drinking enough."

I spend eternity overhydrated. I have never had bladder problems nor a hangover. Go figure.


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Orthos wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
I mean I don't know much about drinking, but if people want to drink, I don't see an issue with that.

The problem, at least in parts of the US and with certain groups, is the opposite of this.

There is an expectation by some people that if some people are drinking, everyone MUST drink. And if you refuse to drink - regardless of your reasons, with the occasional exception of being a recovering alcoholic, that and "I'm the designated driver" are the only answers I've seen consistently get people to back off - you are very, very, VERY roughly pressured to do so anyway.

And I do mean, regardless of your reasons. If you have a moral reason for not drinking, the response is usually "One drink won't hurt you, you need to loosen up!". Medical reasons are usually met with the same, again unless it's dealing with an addiction. Personal dislike is met with "You just need to find the kind of alcohol you like!". Etc. etc. etc.

This is really a beautiful summary of U.S. drinking culture.

Poor Lara Croft Guy is a "super taster"; his taste buds are hyper-sensitive, and he has trouble finding foods that are bland enough that he can eat them. Anything with alcohol in it tastes like solvent to him.

Yet he is constantly pressured to drink at social gatherings (work parties, etc.), because, "I can't tolerate the taste," isn't considered a "valid" excuse.


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A random music video I found.

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I'd be happy to have a drink to make people happy. I know the alcohol content of stuff, so I shouldn't screw myself over.

I even ran research on myself. 3 glasses of wine/equivalent alcohol is ok on a full stomach. But more then that is pushing it.

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Oh alcohol is 7 calories per gram so if you're trying to lose any weight...well it isn't a good idea.

Now you know where the word beer belly came from?

My dad will happily tell you he can't tolerate the taste of alcohol, straight to your face.

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Just a Mort wrote:
I'd be happy to have a drink to make people happy. I know the alcohol content of stuff, so I shouldn't screw myself over.

Which if you want to, that's great.

But for those of us who don't (and even worse, those of us who CAN'T), this is a constant battle with the "perceived social norm" of our culture that has us banging our heads on the walls.

And that's what it comes down to. All we want is the ability to say No to something we don't want to do. Society refuses to give it to you unless you are:

A. The ONE person in your group who is going to be driving a vehicle for the rest of the group

or

B. Someone who has had such a severe problem drinking in the past that you must never do so again to avoid relapsing into addiction.

Anything else is not considered a good enough excuse.


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Orthos wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
I'd be happy to have a drink to make people happy. I know the alcohol content of stuff, so I shouldn't screw myself over.

Which if you want to, that's great.

But for those of us who don't (and even worse, those of us who CAN'T), this is a constant battle with the "perceived social norm" of our culture that has us banging our heads on the walls.

And that's what it comes down to. All we want is the ability to say No to something we don't want to do. Society refuses to give it to you unless you are:

A. The ONE person in your group who is going to be driving a vehicle for the rest of the group

or

B. Someone who has had such a severe problem drinking in the past that you must never do so again to avoid relapsing into addiction.

Anything else is not considered a good enough excuse.

I shouldn't be obligated to do something I really, really don't want to do to maintain someone else's "good time." Why is their enjoyment more important than mine? I don't care if it makes them happy - I'm not going to be, and if I'm not having fun, why did I even bother going out?

I'm not going to stop someone who wants a drink from having one. But I don't feel the need to ruin my evening by losing control over myself to salve their feels.


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Damn right, Scint.


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If I had the resources, Mort, my cosplay would look like this.

Edit: found a better page.


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Closing up the garage and going home. Good night, everyone.


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I'm actually quite resistant to peer pressure, if someone tells me I absolutely have to have a drink I won't do it.

Thankfully, Crookshanks is the same way.


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NobodysHome wrote:


Considering last time I tried to go dry I made it 289 days before trying "just a little" just to be polite and falling off the wagon for another entire year as a result, I'm at the point in my life where I'll walk out of a place and be considered a rude a$$hat rather than make any attempt to be "polite".

Respect my life choices, thanks.

You're at 315 today, yes?

And 50 days from your first anniversary?
Or did I miscalculate?


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Tiny T-Rex is doing this new thing where he casually asks us or his grandparents for a cup of coffee when any of them stop by.


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I have 1-3 glasses of scotch or bourbon per week. At no time and under no circumstances do I expect anyone to join me. If I offer you a glass of my whisky, it's simply because I'm trying to be polite.


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


Considering last time I tried to go dry I made it 289 days before trying "just a little" just to be polite and falling off the wagon for another entire year as a result, I'm at the point in my life where I'll walk out of a place and be considered a rude a$$hat rather than make any attempt to be "polite".

Respect my life choices, thanks.

You're at 315 today, yes?

And 50 days from your first anniversary?
Or did I miscalculate?

Wow! I am impressed! You may be the only person on the planet other than me who's keeping track!

I think you know my birthday better than my kids do! :-P

(And yes, you're correct on all counts.)

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Whisky isn't my thing anyway. Sweet stuff please. Sake isn't too bad too.

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Happy bdae NH!


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And speaking of excellent life choices, I went by the school today to drop off a couple of ice chests from the trip.
High School Girl #1: Oh my god! It's Chaperone Joe! Hi, Chaperone Joe!
NobodysHome: (Having no idea who the girl is) Hello!

I chatted with the choir director for half an hour (we get along well for some reason), then headed out.

High School Girl #2: Hi, Chaperone Joe! Are you coming to see our performance tonight? (Both she and HSG #1 were in leotards and skirts, so some kind of dance performance, I'm sure)
NH: Sorry! I can't make it tonight! I've got to do receipts from this week's trip.
HSG #2: Makes tear gesture

I am becoming legend at the schools. I love my new sweatshirt! :-P

EDIT: On the other hand, I was doing "Sweep Duty" at Great America (wait on a bench in the park until the buses are loaded, just in case any kids are missing) and a woman sat down next to me and started hitting on me fairly hard, so it may just be that the sweatshirt is irresistible to women...


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Just a Mort wrote:
Happy bdae NH!

LOL! Thanks, but you're 50 days early! Or 315 days late! Take your pick! (315 days late on my 50th, 50 days early on my 51st)


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Just a Mort wrote:
Whisky isn't my thing anyway. Sweet stuff please. Sake isn't too bad too.

I went through a brief period of experimenting with drink, and the only stuff I liked were sweet mixed drinks.

I thought "Why am I spending $7 on mixed drinks when I could be drinking something that tastes better for $2?" I never even drank enough to get buzzed, and occasionally I've wondered if drinking more would help me be more social when I want to be, but I have medical reasons not to drink and after that brief period I never touched alcohol again.


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On the subject of alcohol, I choose not to drink. This has rarely been an issue for me as most of the people I spend time with don't try to get me to. Also, I avoid situations where it is expected (such as parties, weddings, etc). The last time I had someone try to force me to drink was about 7 or 8 years ago at a DnD game. As a rule, the groups I play with don't typically drink while gaming, although someone might occasionally have a beer. We had a new guy at the group for his first (and last) session. He showed up with a 24 pack of beer, and started drinking even though we told him repeatedly that we would prefer if he didn't. He kept drinking, tried to get everyone else to drink (saying stuff along the lines of "Why don't we all get really f$*&ed up and make this game great?"), and several times tried to pour beer into the glass I was drinking soda out of while I wasn't watching. The third time we caught him trying that, I told him to get out. It wasn't even my house, but I was ready to physically pick him up and throw his ass on the street. And I would have had plenty of help.


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NobodysHome wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


Considering last time I tried to go dry I made it 289 days before trying "just a little" just to be polite and falling off the wagon for another entire year as a result, I'm at the point in my life where I'll walk out of a place and be considered a rude a$$hat rather than make any attempt to be "polite".

Respect my life choices, thanks.

You're at 315 today, yes?

And 50 days from your first anniversary?
Or did I miscalculate?

Wow! I am impressed! You may be the only person on the planet other than me who's keeping track!

I think you know my birthday better than my kids do! :-P

(And yes, you're correct on all counts.)

Can't entirely take credit; I know your birthday and your sobriety day are the same, and I know it's shortly after Hermione's, but I have to look at Whingey Wizzard's Slightly Autistic Online Calendar of Random Birthdates and Anniversaries to know exactly when. (Seriously; he's got you and GothBard on there, and the Faux Russian, but also random friends he hasn't seen in a dozen years or more, as well as the birthdays and the anniversaries of the deaths of random Texas family members.

I never *have* to remember because I know I can always look it up.
And then I count.

But, yes, I've been keeping track of how many days every few weeks, because that first anniversary feels like a big deal to me.
And even though you made fun of the notion the last time I brought it up, I feel like it's worthy of celebrating... maybe since we're both ridiculously early morning people, I can take you for a ridiculously early breakfast the day after?

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NH, did you use your real name?


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Introverts don't get ready for a party so much as they gather strength for a party.


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Penguins are what happens when you run seal software on bird hardware.


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So I'm home again after bouncing up to Oregon and back this weekend.
I cleaned the pool, I cleaned the backyard (i.e. removing all of the yard debris that had fallen on the concrete patio around the pool so that it wouldn't end up *in* the pool), and laid waste to the jungle that was the front garden.
My mother loves the *idea* of having a front garden. Unfortunately, she lives in an area with three seasons: (a) raining constantly, (b) perfect horseback riding weather, and (c) over 100 degrees every day. So the only time she has that is conducive to gardening is also the best time for riding.
So the gorgeous-but-evil tree in the front had, over the years, deposited a 4" thick carpet of dead needles on half the yard. Which the weeds were taking up root in, rather than in the soil beneath. Which was actually rather convenient, because in some places, with a little work, I could simply roll it up like a rather foul and bug-ridden area rug.
The other half of the yard, where the tree couldn't reach, she'd covered in flower bulbs and ornamental shrubs, but the shrubs were overgrown and interfering with the public sidewalk (the neighbors had complained to the City. Twice this year alone.) and the weeds were two feet high and I had to get them out without pulling up the flowers.
All in all, I loaded twenty Hefty lawn bags, two roughneck bins, and one jumbo-size greenwaste bin, and hauled as much of it as I could to the county dump (they turn the greenwaste into compost and sell it back to people by the cubic yard, but at least they didn't charge me to dump it).
It was not a good weekend for my allergies, but at least I finally got to see my baby niece, and I got a weekend of my sister's cooking.


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Why does "Enjoy your weekend" sound nice while "Enjoy the rest of your life" sounds vaguely threatening?


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Just a Mort wrote:
NH, did you use your real name?

LOL! I'm sure I have at some point used my real name as a fake name on these boards. I'm sure I've used fake names that aren't my real name. And I'm sure that clears it up 100%!


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"If you die in the game, you die in real life" is a trope in scifi stories with killer video games, yet it applies equally to hopscotch.


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Car companies really overestimate how much the average person cares about JD Power, whoever the hell he is.


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Why don't people mind when you eat a cheese stick, but lose their minds when they see you eat a spoonful of queso?


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Using wooden poles to support a tree is like giving someone with a broken leg a splint made of human femurs.


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The X-Files is basically Goosebumps for adults.


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lisamarlene wrote:

Can't entirely take credit; I know your birthday and your sobriety day are the same, and I know it's shortly after Hermione's, but I have to look at Whingey Wizzard's Slightly Autistic Online Calendar of Random Birthdates and Anniversaries to know exactly when. (Seriously; he's got you and GothBard on there, and the Faux Russian, but also random friends he hasn't seen in a dozen years or more, as well as the birthdays and the anniversaries of the deaths of random Texas family members.

I never *have* to remember because I know I can always look it up.
And then I count.

But, yes, I've been keeping track of how many days every few weeks, because that first anniversary feels like a big deal to me.
And even though you made fun of the notion the last time I brought it up, I feel like it's worthy of celebrating... maybe since we're both ridiculously early morning people, I can take you for a ridiculously early breakfast the day after?

LOL! That sounds SO like him! Breakfast sounds great, but it'll have to be a weekend; I work 6:30 - 4, and no decent breakfast places are open on weekdays before (or after) that...


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Opening a new browser tab and then forgetting what you were going to search for is the digital equivalent of going into a room and forgetting why you went in there.


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The older you get, the weirder it is to hang out in your friend's bedroom.


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Travel mugs are sippy cups for adults.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Tiny T-Rex is doing this new thing where he casually asks us or his grandparents for a cup of coffee when any of them stop by.

They grow up so fast, don't they?


Mort, Amaretto is a fairly sweet liquor that tastes like almonds.


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NH, Congrats on your impending 1 year of sobriety.

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