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Syrus Terrigan wrote:
I, too, am a strong advocate of the 'd4 rule', as I found it in the 3.x book Unearthed Arcana. Too bad I can't use it in this case . . . .
for Freehold, characters start with their con score + max hit die at first level, then roll and add con mod as normal going forward.

I dig that method, too! Nice!

EDIT: In a purely platonic sense, of course. I think you're cool, Freehold, but you aren't that cool. Still, I've lost 40 lbs in the past 5 months, so I might as well show off a bit! :D lol


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SCHOOL INTERNET HAS RETURNED.

...this of course means I am both extremely behind schedule in grading and going to have the Rainbow begging to start Scarwall ASAP. I haven't even finished compiling their loot.


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DST can go straight to the bottomless pit of the Abyss. That is all.


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So, it took a week of waiting for enough snow to melt, the ground to get to the right consistency of frozen enough not to sink but not so much that the wheels are frozen in the ground, 3 hours of chipping at half frozen mud, and a big truck, but my (good) car is finally not in the ditch anymore.
Also got to game on Saturday, so that was fun.


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Vanykrye wrote:
DST can go straight to the bottomless pit of the Abyss. That is all.

The second-most-irritating aspect of it (the first being its existence) is that every solution I've seen proposed is, "Just always have it on!"

So yeah, let's dispose of 2500 years of history, where "noon" is, "The time at which the sun reaches its highest point in the sky," plus have our time zones utterly confusing when compared to other countries that aren't inevitably stupid, all because... reasons?

(Sorry, I still have no idea what the people who are arguing for "always on" are thinking, other than, "We like it to be light at 9 pm in the summer, so to heck with everything else!")


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Syrus Terrigan wrote:
I, too, am a strong advocate of the 'd4 rule', as I found it in the 3.x book Unearthed Arcana. Too bad I can't use it in this case . . . .

I like that d4 method. Our current method is max at first, then roll normally then on, but with each roll the player gets to decide if they want to keep it or not. If not, then the DM rolls and they have to take whatever the DM rolls instead. You roll a 1? Not a big deal, just ask the DM to roll. DM rolls a 2? Success! It's not a 1!


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Internet worked for all of two days. Went on the fritz again. Whingey Wizzard complained to His Lordship. His Lordship got pissy and turned it off entirely, then said, "I'll look into it when I get back." From his business trip, no earlier than Thursday.

I am far from sanguine.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
DST can go straight to the bottomless pit of the Abyss. That is all.

The second-most-irritating aspect of it (the first being its existence) is that every solution I've seen proposed is, "Just always have it on!"

So yeah, let's dispose of 2500 years of history, where "noon" is, "The time at which the sun reaches its highest point in the sky," plus have our time zones utterly confusing when compared to other countries that aren't inevitably stupid, all because... reasons?

(Sorry, I still have no idea what the people who are arguing for "always on" are thinking, other than, "We like it to be light at 9 pm in the summer, so to heck with everything else!")

I personally don't give a rat's dragging bottom end which time is decided upon. Just pick one. I'll be fine either way. Just stop changing it twice a year.

It also adds to my techs' workload every time...thin clients that are set to automatically update their time for DST changes that then don't actually update. So now the remote users can't log into their VDI environments because the time on the thin client doesn't match up with the time on the VDI so the DC rejects the VDI login, and the time is locked down so only an administrator can change the time on the thin client.


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Vanykrye wrote:
It also adds to my techs' workload every time...thin clients that are set to automatically update their time for DST changes that then don't actually update. So now the remote users can't log into their VDI environments because the time on the thin client doesn't match up with the time on the VDI so the DC rejects the VDI login, and the time is locked down so only an administrator can change the time on the thin client.

Gee... those thin clients don't happen to be running Windows, do they?

Gods, Microsoft! Can't you even get a basic time update right?


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lisamarlene wrote:

Internet worked for all of two days. Went on the fritz again. Whingey Wizzard complained to His Lordship. His Lordship got pissy and turned it off entirely, then said, "I'll look into it when I get back." From his business trip, no earlier than Thursday.

I am far from sanguine.

Wow. Just... wow!

I know the house is pretty isolated, but is it possible to pick up a neighbor's WiFi signal for a bit? When I lived in that area some of the neighbors were pretty nice, and a friendly, "Hey, our internet is down 'til Friday, do you mind if we piggyback off of yours until then?" might have worked.

Of course, in that area, 4 blocks might as well be 4 miles, and with the house as it is you may be out of range of your neighbors' signals...

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Yeah but aren't neighbours wifi locked with security keys and all that? I definitely know my house wifi is...

I suppose a little bumming off is fine by me.


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My brother (who is not a lawyer) pointed out that a few years ago (i.e., laws have probably changed) it was safer to keep your home WiFi insecure, because that way if anyone did anything untoward with it you could just shrug your shoulders and say, "Oh, well! Not my fault!"

I think they changed the laws so that's no longer the case, but it used to be that you reduced your criminal liability by leaving your network unlocked, so to this day every neighborhood typically has 1-2 unsecured points of access. LM's issue is that her house is fairly isolated, so signal strength from neighbors is a definite issue.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
It also adds to my techs' workload every time...thin clients that are set to automatically update their time for DST changes that then don't actually update. So now the remote users can't log into their VDI environments because the time on the thin client doesn't match up with the time on the VDI so the DC rejects the VDI login, and the time is locked down so only an administrator can change the time on the thin client.

Gee... those thin clients don't happen to be running Windows, do they?

Gods, Microsoft! Can't you even get a basic time update right?

Yeah, it's Windows, but I don't think this is actually on Microsoft this time. Pretty sure this one is on HP and Lenovo, because it's the actual thin client system time that's going haywire. Sometimes it's launching the actual time several hours into the future, sometimes it's not updating at all, but Windows is still showing the correct time.

Now, when they migrated a bunch of our VDI users to O365 without testing it first, that straight up pissed me off. Outlook won't open for those users now due to the way the VDI is configured. If they had just taken 15 minutes to test that before pressing the button to migrate those people over...

Just blows my mind.


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Dentist appointment today! Just fillings, so other than my fear of needles, relatively painless.


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Uuuuuuuuuuggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick.

This is even worse than normal because we had to cancel our first "real" table-top game with actual friends in approximately forever.


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Get well soon, Tac.


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lisamarlene wrote:

Internet worked for all of two days. Went on the fritz again. Whingey Wizzard complained to His Lordship. His Lordship got pissy and turned it off entirely, then said, "I'll look into it when I get back." From his business trip, no earlier than Thursday.

I am far from sanguine.

plug your conputer directly into NobodysHome, I'm sure you'll get internet. Or is that entertainment? Either way, good times.


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Vanykrye wrote:
DST can go straight to the bottomless pit of the Abyss. That is all.

It's really more an example of LE, so...probably not the Abyss.


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NobodysHome wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:

Internet worked for all of two days. Went on the fritz again. Whingey Wizzard complained to His Lordship. His Lordship got pissy and turned it off entirely, then said, "I'll look into it when I get back." From his business trip, no earlier than Thursday.

I am far from sanguine.

Wow. Just... wow!

I know the house is pretty isolated, but is it possible to pick up a neighbor's WiFi signal for a bit? When I lived in that area some of the neighbors were pretty nice, and a friendly, "Hey, our internet is down 'til Friday, do you mind if we piggyback off of yours until then?" might have worked.

Of course, in that area, 4 blocks might as well be 4 miles, and with the house as it is you may be out of range of your neighbors' signals...

When we still lived in that nasty tenement in downtown Berkeley, sure. Out here on the edge of the park, no way. No neighbors within decent range.


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Scintillae wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
DST can go straight to the bottomless pit of the Abyss. That is all.
It's really more an example of LE, so...probably not the Abyss.

Yup, that was me.


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Daylight Dumbass Time can die in a fire, it manages to be a PITA even for those of us who live in Real Time states & nations.

Spoiler:
And yes, I kiss my mother with that mouth. And she loves DDT. One of the few things we argue about.


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I don't mind the spring forward, it's setting it back in fall that screws me up.


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I love falling back. An extra hour and more darkness and cold.

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I managed to come out ahead this year, since I went to Disney and gained an hour on the drive over, but lost nothing thanks to the West Coast getting on AZ time before I drove back.

Would still rather everyone stay on the same damn time.


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The growth of electricity and the national shift away from agricultural-based economies mean that DST is largely obsolete anymore. I wonder why we still have it.

Shadow Lodge

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captain yesterday wrote:
I don't mind the spring forward, it's setting it back in fall that screws me up.

I'm the other way around. Spring forward always leaves me not gettibg enough sleep. Fall back doesn't have that problem.

And no, I can't just go to bed earlier. My brain won't fall asleep until it thinks its time.


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So, how pathetic is it living in the Albany/Berkeley area in terms of "ordinary" food?

Impus Major has very simple taste in lunches: Some beef jerky, raw fruit, and then as a treat, a Del Monte unsweetened mandarin fruit cup, some Chex Mix, and a jar of Tejava unsweetened iced tea.

In spite of having TWO Safeways within walking distance, and a Target maybe 1.8 miles away, I cannot keep these in stock because none of the stores carry the sizes I need (all the Tejava comes in 1-2 liter bottles). So I just had to Amazon my grocery list for the nonperishables.

Seriously, Albany and Berkeley? Could you at least somewhat cater to the hoi polloi?


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TriOmegaZero wrote:

I managed to come out ahead this year, since I went to Disney and gained an hour on the drive over, but lost nothing thanks to the West Coast getting on AZ time before I drove back.

Would still rather everyone stay on the same damn time.

How's Disneyland doing these days? Since they decided to turn the whole thing into a Marvel/Star Wars/Pixar mash-up we canceled our annual passes and haven't returned.

Is there still anything remotely Disney-ish about it any more?

Shadow Lodge

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TriOmegaZero wrote:

I managed to come out ahead this year, since I went to Disney and gained an hour on the drive over, but lost nothing thanks to the West Coast getting on AZ time before I drove back.

Would still rather everyone stay on the same damn time.

The lack of DST is one of a long list of things I miss about AZ.

Shadow Lodge

NobodysHome wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:

I managed to come out ahead this year, since I went to Disney and gained an hour on the drive over, but lost nothing thanks to the West Coast getting on AZ time before I drove back.

Would still rather everyone stay on the same damn time.

How's Disneyland doing these days? Since they decided to turn the whole thing into a Marvel/Star Wars/Pixar mash-up we canceled our annual passes and haven't returned.

Is there still anything remotely Disney-ish about it any more?

What's wrong with Pixar? >.>

Grand Lodge

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NobodysHome wrote:

How's Disneyland doing these days? Since they decided to turn the whole thing into a Marvel/Star Wars/Pixar mash-up we canceled our annual passes and haven't returned.

Is there still anything remotely Disney-ish about it any more?

It looks as Disney-ish as it ever was, but I didn't start going until a couple years ago. The Star Wars/Pixar stuff is limited to Star Tours and Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters now that Space Mountain is back to normal from Hyperspace Mountain. Frontier/Adventure/Fantasyland is completely free of it all. California Adventures will be getting more Pixar stuff once the pier is refurbished, and they haven't finished Galaxy's Edge yet, otherwise I imagine Star Tours would be over there to make room for something else in Tomorrowland.


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Orthos wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:

I managed to come out ahead this year, since I went to Disney and gained an hour on the drive over, but lost nothing thanks to the West Coast getting on AZ time before I drove back.

Would still rather everyone stay on the same damn time.

How's Disneyland doing these days? Since they decided to turn the whole thing into a Marvel/Star Wars/Pixar mash-up we canceled our annual passes and haven't returned.

Is there still anything remotely Disney-ish about it any more?

What's wrong with Pixar? >.>

It's not so much what's "wrong with" Pixar, or Marvel, or Star Wars, it's what it does to the rest of the park.

Disneyland and California Adventure were fairly unique in California in that you could get a very good sit-down lunch in a pleasant atmosphere; for example, in the Orleans Cafe in New Orleans Square. The Bengal Barbecue in Adventureland had extremely tasty meat skewers. Etc., etc.
There were interesting places to shop, vendors with hand-crafted goods on street corners, and just all in all an "experience" rather than, "Another giant swath of blacktop with rides on it."

Apparently, Disneyland was making money hand over fist, but other locations such as Disneyland Singapore (I'm looking at YOU, Just a Mort) weren't doing as well, so in order to pad their bottom line they decided to push Disneyland more towards the lowest common denominator: $12 burger stands instead of $18 seared ahi salads at sit-down cafes. Cheap branded goods branded within an inch of their lives. Yes, there were "Disney" stores where everything was slapped with Disney characters ever since I was a kid many decades ago, but there was also the Adventureland store, where NOTHING was Disney-branded and you could get all kinds of snazzy hats, vests, and other non-Disney paraphernalia. The Mad Hatter was a favorite haunt of ours.

So long old-man ramble aside, by the time Disney acquired Pixar there was already a slow trickle towards degrading the "experience" and focusing more on the "commercialization". In the last few years with the popularity of the Marvel movies and the resurgence of Star Wars, that trickle became a flood, and every time we went back another favorite haunt had been removed in favor of some movie-themed cheap fast food nothingorother. (That's an important point: We didn't mind seeing something change if that new thing was interesting. We despised seeing the unique and flavorful turned into the cheap and commercial.)

It was too depressing to watch, so we stopped going.

EDIT: And for the record, every place I named still stands. Some of them are even still intact. But our favorite Greek-style restaurant in California Adventure became a giant pizza cafeteria, our favorite hangouts in Tomorrowland got filled in with Star Wars stuff, and we were just feeling more and more alienated every time we went there. We're going back for the usual events: The high school trip in early April and Bats in the Sun in early May, so we'll see how I feel once I see it again... assuming I'm not on emergency medical duty again...


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I've heard of Disneyland.


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The sun is a g*$%%*n dirty liar today.

But soon, spring arrives, supposedly.


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Tevye, Tradition Keeper wrote:
The growth of electricity and the national shift away from agricultural-based economies mean that DST is largely obsolete anymore. I wonder why we still have it.

Fun fact: the idea that DST is for the benefit of agriculture is a myth. Farmers actively lobbied against the implementation of DST when it was introduced.


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Ah, good to know!


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I think I'm actually caught up on grades for the moment.


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captain yesterday wrote:

The sun is a g+@***n dirty liar today.

But soon, spring arrives, supposedly.

sits on snow encrusted porch, loads shotgun


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Ivan Rûski wrote:

So, it took a week of waiting for enough snow to melt, the ground to get to the right consistency of frozen enough not to sink but not so much that the wheels are frozen in the ground, 3 hours of chipping at half frozen mud, and a big truck, but my (good) car is finally not in the ditch anymore.

Also got to game on Saturday, so that was fun.

no need to thank me.

Shadow Lodge

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I have never actually been to Disneyland, though Ebon keeps threatening to drag me there one day.

Shadow Lodge

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lynora wrote:
Tevye, Tradition Keeper wrote:
The growth of electricity and the national shift away from agricultural-based economies mean that DST is largely obsolete anymore. I wonder why we still have it.
Fun fact: the idea that DST is for the benefit of agriculture is a myth. Farmers actively lobbied against the implementation of DST when it was introduced.

Which then begs the question.

What WAS the point??

Sovereign Court

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Freehold DM wrote:
Ivan Rûski wrote:

So, it took a week of waiting for enough snow to melt, the ground to get to the right consistency of frozen enough not to sink but not so much that the wheels are frozen in the ground, 3 hours of chipping at half frozen mud, and a big truck, but my (good) car is finally not in the ditch anymore.

Also got to game on Saturday, so that was fun.
no need to thank me.

Don't worry, we won't.


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Orthos wrote:
lynora wrote:
Tevye, Tradition Keeper wrote:
The growth of electricity and the national shift away from agricultural-based economies mean that DST is largely obsolete anymore. I wonder why we still have it.
Fun fact: the idea that DST is for the benefit of agriculture is a myth. Farmers actively lobbied against the implementation of DST when it was introduced.

Which then begs the question.

What WAS the point??

That is not what begs the question means

Shadow Lodge

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It's not? I thought it meant "that immediately prompts the asking of another question that requires an answer immediately as a result of the newly gained information".

That's certainly how I've always understood it and seen it used. I never would have imagined it meaning anything but that.


Orthos wrote:
lynora wrote:
Tevye, Tradition Keeper wrote:
The growth of electricity and the national shift away from agricultural-based economies mean that DST is largely obsolete anymore. I wonder why we still have it.
Fun fact: the idea that DST is for the benefit of agriculture is a myth. Farmers actively lobbied against the implementation of DST when it was introduced.

Which then begs the question.

What WAS the point??

There was a point? But the reason it sticks around like mold is because money.

Grand Lodge

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Orthos wrote:
It's not? I thought it meant "that immediately prompts the asking of another question that requires an answer immediately as a result of the newly gained information".

Sort of, but only in questioning the initial statements veracity, not justifying the new questions existence. The new question logically follows, the initial statement does not.

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NobodysHome wrote:
Orthos wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:

I managed to come out ahead this year, since I went to Disney and gained an hour on the drive over, but lost nothing thanks to the West Coast getting on AZ time before I drove back.

Would still rather everyone stay on the same damn time.

How's Disneyland doing these days? Since they decided to turn the whole thing into a Marvel/Star Wars/Pixar mash-up we canceled our annual passes and haven't returned.

Is there still anything remotely Disney-ish about it any more?

What's wrong with Pixar? >.>

It's not so much what's "wrong with" Pixar, or Marvel, or Star Wars, it's what it does to the rest of the park.

Disneyland and California Adventure were fairly unique in California in that you could get a very good sit-down lunch in a pleasant atmosphere; for example, in the Orleans Cafe in New Orleans Square. The Bengal Barbecue in Adventureland had extremely tasty meat skewers. Etc., etc.
There were interesting places to shop, vendors with hand-crafted goods on street corners, and just all in all an "experience" rather than, "Another giant swath of blacktop with rides on it."

Apparently, Disneyland was making money hand over fist, but other locations such as Disneyland Singapore (I'm looking at YOU, Just a Mort) weren't doing as well, so in order to pad their bottom line they decided to push Disneyland more towards the lowest common denominator: $12 burger stands instead of $18 seared ahi salads at sit-down cafes. Cheap branded goods branded within an inch of their lives. Yes, there were "Disney" stores where everything was slapped with Disney characters ever since I was a kid many decades ago, but there was also the Adventureland store, where NOTHING was Disney-branded and you could get all kinds of snazzy hats, vests, and other non-Disney paraphernalia. The Mad Hatter was a favorite haunt of ours.

So long old-man ramble aside, by the time Disney acquired Pixar there was already a slow trickle towards...

Oh you mean universal studios in Singapore? Not my thing since it's mainly roller coaster rides and I like keeping my paws on the ground, thank you. My BF would love to drag me there though.

Food in Disney is kinda expensive so we lived on popcorn and burgers then went somewhere else for a good stuffing for dinner in Japan.


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"We'll go to White Castle after Great America!" my friends told me.

Alas, it was some of the most inedible food I've ever had, and I grew up Quaker!

Grand Lodge

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Just a Mort wrote:
Food in Disney is kinda expensive so we lived on popcorn and burgers then went somewhere else for a good stuffing for dinner in Japan.

I find the kids meals are enough to stuff me most days.

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Hmm wait, my memory is faulty. Yes I managed to get my BF into the Alice in wonderland cafe for Omu rice. Mainly because they had really nice stained glass windows and wanted to get in to get an opportunity to take a photo from the inside.

Also it was winter, so the rides and all that were closed(past 5.30), and we needed to hole up for the ending performance at 7 pm.

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