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NobodysHome wrote:

I think our house is listed at 120 square meters, but that included the unfinished, uninsulated garage. The actual available living space is closer to 83.

Ours was listed at about 162, but that included a small section of "finished" basement that wasn't actually finished. Realistic size is about 148 square meters. One nice part of the Midwest is that property and home prices are much closer to reasonable as long as you're outside of the major cities.


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And apparently I needed to be naked for that statement.


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lynora wrote:

Kidlet is doing better. Still sick, but less fever. And less of a fight to get him to drink fluids, although that’s partially because I bought all his favorites yesterday.

I am more sick, but moms don’t get sick days. Especially not when everybody else is already sick. :/

hire freehold to take care of you while you are ill!

Nothing costs extra, healthcare is free in abscondi-cave for married women only.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:

Here’s a slightly controversial topic. Please keep flames and bad feelings to a minimum.

“Alignment debates are a waste of time and get nowhere.”

My argument for the above statement:

I looked at an alignment debate thread, and realized that everyone has a different idea of what passes for what is an acceptable action for a said alignment. The thread got derailed, lots of people were saying things were done in a way which were badwrongfun and calling each other names.

At the end of the day, everyone has a different style of gaming (and it’s not right to say a particular style of gaming is wrong, either – since it all boils down to personal freedoms) and what people think are appropriate for alignments is a reflection of that.

Your thoughts?

i love alignment debates, but only so long as they remain civil. I think alignment in general needs to be revisited, as there are a lot of generic actions in the adventuring life that are pretty evil.

I love a good alignment debate, civil or otherwise. Bonus points for debates on what if any alignment restrictions are appropriate for class X.

What I find a pointless waste of time is "What combination of character widgets would pop culture character X be in D&D?" I. Don't. Care. Fiction is not role play, and role play is not fiction.

i wholeheartedly agree.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Important I RL-disclaimer: the above post, while seriously inviting you to Florida, was mostly and just, as I cannot actually invite anybody to stay long-term at our house, without getting approval/discussing things with my wife well in advance! That said… Having a game-developer/House-keep her living here… ;P

too late. I am en route. Your wife will love me, as all married women do!


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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

>:)


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lisamarlene wrote:
Most of our apartments have been in the 37 to 55 square meter range. We lived with 55 for 7 years, then 37 for another 7 years. Now we have more like 75. The house itself has about 300 square meters, but 75 is our share of it. The rest is all for our landlord and his dogs, but we have kitchen and dining room privileges. Except for he's a slob and there's a constant mess and random piles of electronics, papers, and motorcycle gear on every surface.

...wow...

Uh..maybe I should stop by your place first and clean up a bit?


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:

Here’s a slightly controversial topic. Please keep flames and bad feelings to a minimum.

“Alignment debates are a waste of time and get nowhere.”

My argument for the above statement:

I looked at an alignment debate thread, and realized that everyone has a different idea of what passes for what is an acceptable action for a said alignment. The thread got derailed, lots of people were saying things were done in a way which were badwrongfun and calling each other names.

At the end of the day, everyone has a different style of gaming (and it’s not right to say a particular style of gaming is wrong, either – since it all boils down to personal freedoms) and what people think are appropriate for alignments is a reflection of that.

Your thoughts?

i love alignment debates, but only so long as they remain civil. I think alignment in general needs to be revisited, as there are a lot of generic actions in the adventuring life that are pretty evil.

I love a good alignment debate, civil or otherwise. Bonus points for debates on what if any alignment restrictions are appropriate for class X.

What I find a pointless waste of time is "What combination of character widgets would pop culture character X be in D&D?" I. Don't. Care. Fiction is not role play, and role play is not fiction.

I always liked the Michael Moorcock-derived Law/Chaos/Balance (or Neutrality) thing, where all three cosmic forces had good and evil elements (though Chaos was kinda evil-y, Law was kinda good-y, and Balance wasn't really evil-y at all). BECMI D&D had it, as does Dungeon Crawl Classics; if you remove the moral element, they are more like affinities/secret societies, which I find quite appealing.


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Our apartment is roughly 139 square meters (1500 square feet). It’s really big. Half the size of the house we lived in before this, but still very generous size. A lot of it is wasted space though. It is not the most efficient layout. Because it didn’t have to be. It was designed as luxury housing in the fifties. Now not so luxurious, but I do love the space.:)


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Cap'n Siskel, FaWtLy Critic wrote:

Boss Baby is not a good movie.

Big surprise, I know.

Says you! It was hokey as all getout, but our family loved it!

Speaking of disagreeing on movies: I love the LotR film and books, both! I came to the books, first, loved ‘em, and enjoyed Tolkien so much I pursued his other works. I hated the Sillmarillion, but that’s because I didn’t want the book for what it was - I wanted another fun adventure, and instead got a dry language and history treatise for fans of that sort of thing: nothing wrong with that, but it wasn’t what what I wanted. Either way, I’d read all of the stuff I could find by him by the times the films came out, and never cared about the differences. The movies were just good. Heck, I loved the super-delux extra-long how-many-more-are-there endings!

I... found the Hobbit movies... okay. They suffered from Lucas-esque prequelitis, but not to the extent that the SW prequels did. Frankly, they captured the goofy spirit of the Hobbit well, even if that break at the end of movie two was just painful. I was even okay with the whole curse-thing they emphasized. I enjoyed them in the same way I enjoyed the Hobbit compared to LotR: a fun kids-like whimsy story with darker undertones and drama.

... there elves were better than Ranken-Bass anyway...

>.>

*shudders*


Just a Mort wrote:

*noms tuna, laps milk and bats the catnip toys a few times*

Still not my usual self since I'm feeling emotionally drained, at this point of time, but I'll live.

Cool shirt, wot?

Close up shot

I kind of want one of these, now.


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Tacticslion wrote:
the elves were better than in Ranken-Bass anyway...

FIFY


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NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
the elves were better than in Ranken-Bass anyway...
FIFY

Seriously?

Because the Rankin-Bass Hobbit was my gateway drug into all things Tolkien, and left me with the impression that elves were (a) bad guys, and (b) creepy-looking and gross.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Finally finished Dragon Age Origins today, after 1+ year of sporadic playing. It's a rad game, but Mrs. Sunrise had to do the final boss fight after I got fed up with the tactical AI. Look Bioware, I'm playing this game to slaughter demons and to see where you take this story, not to fiddle around for an hour just trying to get all four of my party members to actually participate in the final battle.

DAO spoilers:
** spoiler omitted **

In other news, Chronicles of Shannara (the tv experience) is lame. I mean, I'm probably still going to watch it when the kids are around and I can't watch the dark stuff I'm currently into. But I'm going to be regretting it the whole way.

You have no idea how many times I reset the daggum game to get that STUPID USELESS HELMET after the battle of Redcliffe fo EVERY CHARACTER I PLAY.

I hate that battle.

“Is that a wall of fire? Why don’t I go RUN AND STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF IT WHILE THE BADGUYS DONT? I’M A GREAT AI!! WEEEEEE!”

>:(

DANG it, Bioware.


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
the elves were better than in Ranken-Bass anyway...
FIFY

Seriously?

Because the Rankin-Bass Hobbit was my gateway drug into all things Tolkien, and left me with the impression that elves were (a) bad guys, and (b) creepy-looking and gross.

Indeed. Those freakish little goblin monsters pretending to be eves haunt my dreams to this day. The image of 3.5’s goblins was literally the Rankin Bass elves.

Don’t get me wrong - Inlove Rankin-Bass. The elves were awful.


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THIS DAY IS DRAAAAAGING AND I HAVE TO BE AT SCHOOL UNTIL SIX TONIGHT AND I JUST WANT MY FOUR-DAY WEEKEND TO START ALREADY.

Also, a quarter of my students aren't even here today because they're starting the holiday early. How am I supposed to take today seriously?


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Tacticslion wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
the elves were better than in Ranken-Bass anyway...
FIFY

Seriously?

Because the Rankin-Bass Hobbit was my gateway drug into all things Tolkien, and left me with the impression that elves were (a) bad guys, and (b) creepy-looking and gross.

Indeed. Those freakish little goblin monsters pretending to be eves haunt my dreams to this day. The image of 3.5’s goblins was literally the Rankin Bass elves.

Don’t get me wrong - Inlove Rankin-Bass. The elves were awful.

True confessions:

I still have my record album that my parents gave me when I was four.

The greeeeeatest adventuuuuuure...


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Tacticslion wrote:
Cap'n Siskel, FaWtLy Critic wrote:

Boss Baby is not a good movie.

Big surprise, I know.

Says you! It was hokey as all getout, but our family loved it!

Speaking of disagreeing on movies: I love the LotR film and books, both! I came to the books, first, loved ‘em, and enjoyed Tolkien so much I pursued his other works. I hated the Sillmarillion, but that’s because I didn’t want the book for what it was - I wanted another fun adventure, and instead got a dry language and history treatise for fans of that sort of thing: nothing wrong with that, but it wasn’t what what I wanted. Either way, I’d read all of the stuff I could find by him by the times the films came out, and never cared about the differences. The movies were just good. Heck, I loved the super-delux extra-long how-many-more-are-there endings!

I... found the Hobbit movies... okay. They suffered from Lucas-esque prequelitis, but not to the extent that the SW prequels did. Frankly, they captured the goofy spirit of the Hobbit well, even if that break at the end of movie two was just painful. I was even okay with the whole curse-thing they emphasized. I enjoyed them in the same way I enjoyed the Hobbit compared to LotR: a fun kids-like whimsy story with darker undertones and drama.

... there elves were better than Ranken-Bass anyway...

>.>

*shudders*

They certainly captured how douche baggy elves can be.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Cap'n Siskel, FaWtLy Critic wrote:

Boss Baby is not a good movie.

Big surprise, I know.

Says you! It was hokey as all getout, but our family loved it!

Speaking of disagreeing on movies: I love the LotR film and books, both! I came to the books, first, loved ‘em, and enjoyed Tolkien so much I pursued his other works. I hated the Sillmarillion, but that’s because I didn’t want the book for what it was - I wanted another fun adventure, and instead got a dry language and history treatise for fans of that sort of thing: nothing wrong with that, but it wasn’t what what I wanted. Either way, I’d read all of the stuff I could find by him by the times the films came out, and never cared about the differences. The movies were just good. Heck, I loved the super-delux extra-long how-many-more-are-there endings!

I... found the Hobbit movies... okay. They suffered from Lucas-esque prequelitis, but not to the extent that the SW prequels did. Frankly, they captured the goofy spirit of the Hobbit well, even if that break at the end of movie two was just painful. I was even okay with the whole curse-thing they emphasized. I enjoyed them in the same way I enjoyed the Hobbit compared to LotR: a fun kids-like whimsy story with darker undertones and drama.

... there elves were better than Ranken-Bass anyway...

>.>

*shudders*

stabs tacticslion, spins him around 3 times, makes him disappear


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Wow... are we talking about the same Rankin-Bass elves?

EDIT: I mean, yeah, they run around "riding Vixens the wrong way down a one-way street", but that's just normal elvish sexual perversion...


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To be honest, I hated the book, liked the cartoon a little, and liked the first movie.

The last two movies are absolutely atrocious.


captain yesterday wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

First: no one you guys know is in trouble. My wife and kids are all fine. This refers to a thing that's happening elsewhere.

Second: sorry for the wall. I spoil'd it so you don't have to get inundated. (Also religious things, but mostly horrendously large walls of text.)

Third: I love you all. You're awesome and valuable and I'm glad you're my friends.

Fourth: Sorry about the whine. It helps to share, I suppose. :)

** spoiler omitted **...

I get not wanting to say personal things on the internet, but when you post a long personal post with all of the personal stuff removed it's super hard to tell what you're saying.

Do you have cancer?

Are you getting a divorce?

Are you thinking about suicide?

Are you dying?

Is someone very close to you dying?

Do you have gambling problems?

Did you forget to pay Fat Tony the pretzel money?

These are all the scenarios currently running through my head.

I hope you're well and none of these are correct and you're just going through the winter blahs. :-)

And if they are correct, I'll help you fight Fat Tony and his goons.

For questions 1-4) see “First”

For question 5) “maybe - looks not so good; also, cancer is the worst”
For question 6-7) see “First”; also “lol”

I mean, I answered pretty much all of those with my “First” clarification, my dude.

:)


NobodysHome wrote:

Wow... are we talking about the same Rankin-Bass elves?

EDIT: I mean, yeah, they run around "riding Vixens the wrong way down a one-way street", but that's just normal elvish sexual perversion...

Apparently not! ;P


Just a Mort wrote:

Gambling Problems? TL? No effing way. He doesn't even drink, for gods sake.

Suicide? If he does that since he has kids...I'll kick his @rse. If you want to commit suicide, think about all those you're going to leave behind. One more light

Are you dying?/Is someone very close to you dying?

We're all dying everyday...each day that passes is one step we take closer to our graves. Yeah. It's morbid and very unlike me.

The rest, maybe possible, but I'm 8000 km away anyway so I can't really help.

You know, I gambled once? I went to a slots machine - my first (and last!) ever - and put in $1.50! I got back $20 bucks, and declared myself done with gambling. My parents were confused, but shrugged (as they did given me $3 to “play” with), admitted it was wise, and I left with $21.50 and haven’t gambled since. Unless you count rolling dice - man, RPGs, amirite? :D


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lisamarlene wrote:

THIS DAY IS DRAAAAAGING AND I HAVE TO BE AT SCHOOL UNTIL SIX TONIGHT AND I JUST WANT MY FOUR-DAY WEEKEND TO START ALREADY.

Also, a quarter of my students aren't even here today because they're starting the holiday early. How am I supposed to take today seriously?

reads post, nods

pushes button under desk

desk rolls out of the way, revealing secret passage

takes torch off of sconce in secret passage, lights it and then takes spiral staircase down to abscondi-cave

checks on Lynora floating in bacta tube, Ms.McRib verfies her vitals

gets time machine from out of storage, puts it in the boot of Prius Abscondicar III, esq

affixes monocle to left headlight of Abscondicar, as we will be going to lisamarlene's today

gets in abscondicar, steps on gas

presses button to ensure nothing but green lights on way to belt parkway

drives to lisamarlene's, uses time machine to arrive 5 minutes after making this post instead of the 7 days later it normally takes to drive cross country

leaves abscondicar in the tender mercies of lisamarlene's car

sumersaults through lisamarlene's classroom window

reaches up to classroom clock

changes time to 6:05 pm

dismisses class

leaves naught but the latest in 4 day weekend knitting and crocheting materials as a calling card

takes a long walk to jamba juice, gets something extra fruity

throws l&b Spumoni Gardens pizza through window of california pizza kitchen

eats a 5 guys burger while standing outside of in and out burger, enjoys every bite

walks back to prius abscondicar III slowly, makes lots of noise when getting close to him to ensure no prius interruptus

leaps into abscondicar

watches lisamarlenes car flutter a kerchief in the wind for prius in the rear view mirror

drives back to abscondi-cave

uses time machine to return to time just after this post

leaves snacks for lynora after she gets out of bacta tank

climbs back up spiral staircase

returns to work


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Terrinam wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Drejk wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
If we were to win the lottery tomorrow, I'd immediately retire and spend my days working on improving the house, taking care of the kids, and volunteering at their schools. NobodysWife would continue working where she is, because her work is important to her.
I must insists, that, in case of winning a suitable sum of cash at lottery, you will organize a summer gaming camp for Impii, Impii friends, and Rainbow Of Failure, and provide us with the details of that monumental undertaking, the depth of the following campaign derailment, and the brilliance of the intended and unintended silliness that will ensue.

Done!

EDIT: Depressing fact of the day: At 50, I am far, far, far more likely to die of natural causes tomorrow than to win the lottery...

EDIT 2: Depressing fact #2: I'd have to check the actuarial tables, but this might even apply if I were 25...

At any time in your life, you're about as likely to get struck by lightning while in a submarine as to win the lottery.

And lottery winners often have rather unpleasant fates thereafter - not because of any “curse” but it seems greed, incompetence, and and the weight of human pressures consistently leave a trail of broken lives. Seriously, studying the lives of lottery winners is an excercise in depression and has cured me of any dream that ever thought of it as a way of making money. :/


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Tacticslion wrote:
Unless you count rolling dice - man, RPGs, amirite? :D

No. It's only gambling if money's involved. Not only do RPGs not count, all other board games that use dice don't count either.


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John Napier 698 wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Unless you count rolling dice - man, RPGs, amirite? :D
No. It's only gambling if money's involved. Not only do RPGs not count, all other board games that use dice don't count either.

RPGs: Drugs would be cheaper.


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Freehold DM wrote:
eats a 5 guys burger while standing outside of in and out burger, enjoys every bite

I particularly like this one. I've never understood people's obsession with In and Out. It's... an edible burger.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
eats a 5 guys burger while standing outside of in and out burger, enjoys every bite
I particularly like this one. I've never understood people's obsession with In and Out. It's... an edible burger.

And it's not like Five Guys is exactly a transformative experience either.


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Just a Mort wrote:


Now who gave them mythic tiers?

Me.

Not really, but I rarely get to use this alias, so...


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Scintillae wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Unless you count rolling dice - man, RPGs, amirite? :D
No. It's only gambling if money's involved. Not only do RPGs not count, all other board games that use dice don't count either.
RPGs: Drugs would be cheaper.

Please allow me to clarify, then. It's only gambling if the possibility to win money is present.


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Five Guys is so good, though...


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Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
eats a 5 guys burger while standing outside of in and out burger, enjoys every bite
I particularly like this one. I've never understood people's obsession with In and Out. It's... an edible burger.
And it's not like Five Guys is exactly a transformative experience either.

you didn't get your burger all the way, I see.


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Grr... sometimes it's so hard not to ramble on.

As most of you know, I love to write. I do campaign journals for all the campaigns I can (Strange Aeons and Serpent's Skull are taking up all my time right now), but for games I play in I strongly prefer writing first-person journals from the point of view of the PC.

And oh, boy, do I write! Trig's latest is 3500 words on one 4-hour session, and I would have hit 4000 if Impus Major didn't have so much homework. Trig's a talky girl!

And yet I can't post ANY of it on Paizo until our playtest is complete and Shiro's submitted the AP for consideration. Which is probably a couple years out.

Waaaaaaah! I want to post things that nobody (other than TacticsLion, Drejk, Vankyre, Scintillae, Orthos, et al) reads!!!


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Just a Mort wrote:

The funny one is when all the players are turned into mice, the bbeg is a cat stalking them. The mice have to find an aeroplane to fly out of the window while the bbeg cat stalks and kills them all one by one...

That's one of the harder scenarios to complete.

Welp. I know what I’m stealing for an adventure, now.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Grr... sometimes it's so hard not to ramble on.

As most of you know, I love to write. I do campaign journals for all the campaigns I can (Strange Aeons and Serpent's Skull are taking up all my time right now), but for games I play in I strongly prefer writing first-person journals from the point of view of the PC.

And oh, boy, do I write! Trig's latest is 3500 words on one 4-hour session, and I would have hit 4000 if Impus Major didn't have so much homework. Trig's a talky girl!

And yet I can't post ANY of it on Paizo until our playtest is complete and Shiro's submitted the AP for consideration. Which is probably a couple years out.

Waaaaaaah! I want to post things that nobody (other than TacticsLion, Drejk, Vankyre, Scintillae, Orthos, et al) reads!!!

I’m only happy that you can’t right now becaus I’ve run out of time. I wanna read it aaaaalllllll...


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I am afraid that I live nowhere near Captain Yesterday.

I suspect he would call every single one of those numbers, "Balmy".


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
the elves were better than in Ranken-Bass anyway...
FIFY

Seriously?

Because the Rankin-Bass Hobbit was my gateway drug into all things Tolkien, and left me with the impression that elves were (a) bad guys, and (b) creepy-looking and gross.

Those look kind of cool to me - pretty good look for primitive wood/wild elves.

Don't think I've ever seen the film, though.


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NobodysHome wrote:

I am afraid that I live nowhere near Captain Yesterday.

I suspect he would call every single one of those numbers, "Balmy".

I'm about 2.5-3 hours *south* of Cap, and I consider those temperatures "balmy".


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Oh gee, that sounds terrible, however will you survive such temperatures.


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And the winning keeps happening:

Property Manager: The new tenants want to get a dog. Is that OK?
NobodysHome: That's fine, but I heard from one of the other neighbors that the fence is in bad shape. Can you check it out and let me know whether it needs any repairs?
NobodysMom: Oh, my, goodness! The gates are old, too! We HAVE to fix the fence! And the gates! What if their poor little dog runs into the street and gets run over! Hey, I notice we didn't get billed for the fence in January! Why haven't you fixed the fence yet?

Cue a $1700 bill for fence repairs. Whether or not it needed any repairs, I'll never know. Because my mom went nuts and it was easier for the property managers to just spend our money rather than deal with her.

I swear, after 9 years of running a rental property problem-free, the amount of trouble my mother manages to cause on a monthly basis makes me actually ponder selling.

Then I remind myself of all the news articles that pretty much say, "If you don't own in the Bay Area now, you never will", so I cling tenaciously to the house in the hopes my kids will live in it...


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Don't. Get. Me. Started. On. Vague. Promises. Of. Housing. Being. Inherited. By. (Grand)kids.

I was just having a nostalgia ride, courtesy of my friend posting photos of her and her son visit to the town where my grandparents lived, where I spent a lot of my childhood (including the time of Chernobyl disaster). She is staying about half a kilometer from the house where get my grandparents had their flat. Which I was supposed to inherit, except my grandfather never wrote a will, got married again after grandma's death and some time after his death the flat was sold and the money divided between my father, my uncle, and the second wife.


I think the ideal of large scale home ownership causes a lot more harm than good, anyway. Too many people fighting necessarily civic improvements and any densification of California cities tooth and nail because that's their kid's inheritance on the line. Housing prices in Palo Alto or Mountain View get anywhere near sensible? Your kids just lost something like a million dollars.


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The more I play Breath of the Wild, the more I really have to say that it just isn't a great game. I'm so, so sorry to say that, but it's a B title, not an A. The twin failures of using a weapon durability system (Don't EVER use weapon durability in a video game. It's not a good idea. It's NEVER a good idea.) and the complete and utter failure of the difficulty scaling system (I constantly go between breezing through encounters to getting one or two shotted all over the place, with no inbetween) combine with the atrocious voice acting to keep the game from being worthy of an A grade.


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Just a Mort wrote:

Here’s a slightly controversial topic. Please keep flames and bad feelings to a minimum.

“Alignment debates are a waste of time and get nowhere.”

My argument for the above statement:

I looked at an alignment debate thread, and realized that everyone has a different idea of what passes for what is an acceptable action for a said alignment. The thread got derailed, lots of people were saying things were done in a way which were badwrongfun and calling each other names.

At the end of the day, everyone has a different style of gaming (and it’s not right to say a particular style of gaming is wrong, either – since it all boils down to personal freedoms) and what people think are appropriate for alignments is a reflection of that.

Your thoughts?

I do kind of find some of the debates kind of interesting. Though most do tend to end in a lot of pouting and bad/wrong/unfunny-ness accusing.

So its mostly a waste of time.

Just a Mort wrote:

Using the alignment debate would lead no where hypothesis, who then should get the responsibility on policing alignments, in the case of classes that require it - paladins, monks, barbarians.

Or should there be no alignment pre requisites for those classes?

Or there should be no alignment repercussions for player character actions?

Here I do kind of have a pretty made up mind.

I don't like Alignment requirements in base classes and find them for the most part either weakly supported flavour-wise, nonsensical or a relic of tradition.
Now in prestige classes (or maybe even certain archetypes) its more understandable as these are often much more narrow or RP-laden concepts.

How I handle this?
Well I let the players play their character, and spend less time wondering/worrying what they wrote on the line marked "Alignment". Then at least we can put it off until it becomes mechanically/rule-wise relevant.

Now if there's one thing I've kind of wondered about the whole Alignment axis thing. We have this conceptual framework where things "align" themselves with either Good or Evil + the whole Law and Chaos bit (be they creatures/actions/whatever), but they could be treated the same so let focus on the first two.
So a person can commit an Evil-act (orphanage burning) and a person can commit an Good act (curing the sick) - and these act align the person with the "metaphysical" concept in question (ie do Good, become Good).
What about Neutrality? Is there neutral aligning acts? What would they be? Is Neutrality just some weird holding pattern until you accrue enough Good/Evil aligning to tip over to one of those sides? (the existence of rather vast parts of the outer-sphere seems to suggest other wise...).


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Yeah, but for those of us whose income and net worth wouldn't even get us a single-wide trailer in Jock Itch, Idaho, the knowledge that there is a house that will, barring catastrophic accident, be ours someday, is a huge relief. Even if it does mean moving back to Texas.


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The General's parents set aside a plot of land for us to build on, we sold it because as the General said "There is no f~#~ing way in hell I'm moving back to that f!!!ing town"

We regret nothing!


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I keep in mind that what is good and evil, as well as what is honorable and dishonorable, vary massively both by region and by era.

So, I mostly just ignore the alignment debates. Any idea of good and evil we have will seem completely alien to humanity in four or five hundred years.


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I try not to over think alignment, and by that I mean, I don't think about it at all, if you say you're Chaotic Whatever, that's good enough for me.

Of course that's easy to do when no one ever makes Paladins or Clerics. :-)

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