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Just a Mort wrote:

How to prevent sneak attack. Bat familiar for blindsense 20 feet. So you have some idea that someone is there. Get Scion of war to use charisma for init instead of dex, since it’s your casting stat, you should be able to pump up most of it. Stay in the middle of the party, so that there is cover for attacks against you. (It takes improved precise shot to remove that cover – which minimum requires 6 levels of ranger).

Also – ranged sneak attack can be done only within 30 feet unless special archetypes/items are used.

There’s probably more like be a gnome/Halfling so that you can hide behind your party with them for cover and pumping your stealth to the wazoo, but that’s approaching ridiculous territory.

Their will always be some way to get you. no matter how many defense you shore up. Walk into a room suddenly 6 medusae (medusas?) make a whole bunch of fort save. maximized disintegrate Dom or confuse the barb have him attack closet caster etc. etc.

EDIT: Surprise you with a naked bearded man as another example.

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True, but at least you can cut down the number of incidents happening.


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Then theirs the suborbital meteor that just happens to fall from the sky on your head, or the falling whale, or the cave in, or the thermonuclear explosion, water world, Random tarrasque attacks...

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Ok this is just hilarious.

I receive a txt from the Café we bought the hazelnut praline cake for yesterday’s Christmas party.

“Good day, I‘m present of TCC at Novena Square, May I check w u have u collected the hazelnut praline log cake?”

My text reply: Yes, it was eaten up yesterday.


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Only 45 minutes until the Boxing Day Duck Race, and I can hardly contain myself.


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It is g+$*@%n cold outside.


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captain yesterday wrote:
It is g#+&~!n cold outside.

no it isn't.


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Limeylongears wrote:
Only 45 minutes until the Boxing Day Duck Race, and I can hardly contain myself.

*Waits expectantly for both an explanation and the winning duck.*


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captain yesterday wrote:
It is g#+&~!n cold outside.
no it isn't.

2.5 hours SOUTH of CY it is 1 degree Farenheit. Before wind chill. With wind factored in it is -11. For non-Americans, that's -17 and -24 Celsius.

Yeah, this qualifies as cold.

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OK. I'd freeze into an icicle in such cold weather. I'd huddle in my den and refuse to go out.


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10/-12 here. Winter can go away now.

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What's winter? =)

Here you pay for ice skating rinks =)


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Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
It is g#+&~!n cold outside.
no it isn't.

2.5 hours SOUTH of CY it is 1 degree Farenheit. Before wind chill. With wind factored in it is -11. For non-Americans, that's -17 and -24 Celsius.

Yeah, this qualifies as cold.

no.

It qualifies as AWESOME.


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Scintillae wrote:
10/-12 here. Winter can go away now.

brings enough winter so scint can share with mort

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Send more Freehold, it's only in the 20s down here. And no snow either.


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Just finished tonight's card games. Started at Platinum 4, went up 4 ranks to Legend 3.

I just need to go on one more good win streak and I'll have hit King of Games rank in duel links for the season. It was a good night.

Also, somehow, I hit 49 twitch followers out of my goal of 50.

twitch dot tv slash tqwgaming if any of you guys are alive in the early morning and like watching Yugioh played... apparently pretty darn well.


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Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
It is g#+&~!n cold outside.
no it isn't.

2.5 hours SOUTH of CY it is 1 degree Farenheit. Before wind chill. With wind factored in it is -11. For non-Americans, that's -17 and -24 Celsius.

Yeah, this qualifies as cold.

Currently -6 without wind chill here, was -7 when I awoke.


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When I GM, I try to gather information from my players, so I will ask the questions you referenced, Just a Mort. I use that information during the course of the campaign, and it helps me customize the game for the players to fit their PCs. I’m surprised there are GMs who ask for that info and don’t use it. It seems like extra work for no payoff.

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I count myself lucky if the PBP lasts more then 500 posts.

Let's not even get into if GMs actually pay enough attention to even tailor the game to the PCs...

I suspect most GMs just copy their recruitment off another person's recruitment thread.


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Rysky wrote:
Send more Freehold, it's only in the 20s down here. And no snow either.

does wunian snow dance

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Yeah Rank 18 for HS standard is as far as I can go. I tried so hard and got so far, in the end it doesn't even matter.


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So, last night, before I went to bed, I carved up the Ham when it got cool enough. I ended up with about sixteen ham steaks, a large amount of irregular pieces, and enough meat left on the bone for slow-cooked Ham and Bean soup.


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Just a Mort wrote:
So, what IS RP?

In immediate, rules-lawyery terms, roleplay is "Any action, activity, or interaction between players and/or the GM that does not directly further the plot, or that takes additional time to do so."

Deciding what to do with the prisoners clearly falls under this aegis: You did not need to spend any time at the table for this. The paladins ask the GM, "Can we just say that because they're bandits and we're the local law, we can execute them?"
In the interest of brevity, the GM says, "Sure!"
And you just kill them, take their stuff, and move on. No time "wasted" at the table.

There are groups, especially at gaming conventions and PFS tables, where this is preferred/expected behavior, because:
(a) It is significantly faster and you can get more done, and
(b) Some players prefer Pathfinder as a tactical strategy game rather than a roleplaying game: "Given the GM's set of rules, how can I best optimize my character in order to 'win' every fight, and handle every encounter the GM might throw at me?"

So, I don't GM that way, and I won't play at a table where that is my play style. My favorite, most memorable sessions were ones where my players arrived in a new city (Magnimar or Absalom) and spent entire 8-hour sessions looking around, shopping for nonsense ("What snacks are available! I hire a carriage! Oooh! Oooh! What shows are playing?"), and making me think on my feet to make the city and NPCs "alive" and "real" for them. My players love that style. Other players would hate it.

So every group finds its balance, and unhappiness occurs when a "get things done" player ends up in a group of "mess around and look at everything" players, or vice versa.

So the fact that you're getting scolded for too much roleplay indicates you're at a more "get things done" table.

That's it. Nothing wrong nor right about it. Decide whether you're happy playing at the table, and stay or leave.

EDIT: There are nuances, and there's the constant argument about whether or not roleplay/optimization is a dichotomy, but it's pretty much, "Do we waste time at the table doing non-plot-related things or not?"


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Spent all night with a dull ache (3-4 of 10) behind my right eye. My New-year's wish would be to get this thing treated.


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Hey, Limey?
My kids were asking me last night what one is supposed to DO for Boxing Day.
The obvious answer to me is "eat leftovers, play with toys, and gobble the extra chocolate Santa brought you until you're sick", but apparently Mom is WRONG, because EVERYBODY does that the day after Christmas.


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NobodysHome wrote:
There are nuances, and there's the constant argument about whether or not roleplay/optimization is a dichotomy, but it's pretty much, "Do we waste time at the table doing non-plot-related things or not?"

Hey, man. I want to be extremely effective at completely derailing the plot by doing something completely stupid and time-wasting.


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The day I play a bard will be a sad day for plot advancement.

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How long will the paperwork for the operation take and there aren't any problems with finances, are there?

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Interesting, Nobody's Home. I never saw it that way. Again I've only been in the hobby for 5 years or so and times I feel like an alien looking in. I'll sleep on it and maybe formulate a response tomorrow morning.

Suffice to say I'm generally task focused, and won't go around shopping much.

ROTR spoilers:

Mind you in ROTR, I did try flirting with Ameiko(it didn't work out), running the Glassworks...(so Ameiko didn't have to do it) and clean up the catacombs of Wrath. That character in question was rather distrustful of magic in question and gentle repose or not down there, hey there be no sinspawn pollutin' my town. He took all the bodies out, set a nice bonfire and burnt them for HSE reasons.


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Ah yes, the family is trying to change the parameters of the visit of the out of state nephews, which I spent months negotiating.

"this is the first you've said anything" the email said indignantly.

The f$&& I did!!


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Just a Mort wrote:

I count myself lucky if the PBP lasts more then 500 posts.

Let's not even get into if GMs actually pay enough attention to even tailor the game to the PCs...

I suspect most GMs just copy their recruitment off another person's recruitment thread.

Most likely, and, yeah PbP is definitely a different bird than gaming in person.


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captain yesterday wrote:

Ah yes, the family is trying to change the parameters of the visit of the out of state nephews, which I spent months negotiating.

"this is the first you've said anything" the email said indignantly.

The f&!! I did!!

From my admittedly outsider perspective, having to “negotiate” a family visit is a bad sign to begin with.


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Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
There are nuances, and there's the constant argument about whether or not roleplay/optimization is a dichotomy, but it's pretty much, "Do we waste time at the table doing non-plot-related things or not?"
Hey, man. I want to be extremely effective at completely derailing the plot by doing something completely stupid and time-wasting.

I thought I was the only one.

Offers fist bump.


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Just a Mort wrote:
Yeah Rank 18 for HS standard is as far as I can go. I tried so hard and got so far, in the end it doesn't even matter.

I managed to briefly hit 17 over the weekend, but just a few matches later and I'm back at 19. :/

I did finally play my 30/30, and then win when my opponent nuked it with Obliterate. A 12 to -18 suicide, now that's a memorable match!


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Mort,

spoilered, for reasons:
You weren't here in June when I had to go into the Hospital, so here's the run-down of my situation. In June, I suddenly noticed double vision, with my right eye pointing out and slightly down, at rest. Everyone here on the boards begged me to go to a Hospital. What I had thought was a minor stroke was diagnosed as a Pituitary Adanoma, a usually benign tumor on the Pituitary gland.

While in the Hospital, I learned that I wasn't covered for even a simple Doctor's visit. Then I found out why. My employer's healthcare manager slapped life insurance onto vision and dental, even though I'm paying for full coverage. And, even if I had coverage, the surgery and treatments afterward are expensive. And Security guards don't make all that much to begin with. So, here I am, waiting with this tumor pressing on my optic nerve while trying to get enough assistance to make this affordable without having to be in debt for the rest of my life.

So, multiple factors conspired to dump a metric ton of manure on me. *sigh* Wonderful life story, isn't it?


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Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
There are nuances, and there's the constant argument about whether or not roleplay/optimization is a dichotomy, but it's pretty much, "Do we waste time at the table doing non-plot-related things or not?"
Hey, man. I want to be extremely effective at completely derailing the plot by doing something completely stupid and time-wasting.

I thought I was the only one.

Offers fist bump.

Oh man, even as a player there's a certain amount of meandering I can enjoy, but I'm very goal-oriented and I would not be able to take multiple hours of shopping or whatever.

If it's a plot-driven game, I want to get to the plot! If it's a sandbox sort of game, I want to go loot dungeons or whatever!


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Rawr! wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Ah yes, the family is trying to change the parameters of the visit of the out of state nephews, which I spent months negotiating.

"this is the first you've said anything" the email said indignantly.

The f&!! I did!!

From my admittedly outsider perspective, having to “negotiate” a family visit is a bad sign to begin with.

Poor choice of words on my part.

Basically they set a date for the nephews to come out, we announce they can stay with us, they agree, we make sure to mention it every time we see them (which has been every weekend this fall).

On eve of the trip to go get them they announce their action packed itinerary, with absolutely nothing of what I discussed with them and then expect me to go along with it.

Captain don't play that.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Rawr! wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Ah yes, the family is trying to change the parameters of the visit of the out of state nephews, which I spent months negotiating.

"this is the first you've said anything" the email said indignantly.

The f&!! I did!!

From my admittedly outsider perspective, having to “negotiate” a family visit is a bad sign to begin with.

Poor choice of words on my part.

Basically they set a date for the nephews to come out, we announce they can stay with us, they agree, we make sure to mention it every time we see them (which has been every weekend this fall).

On eve of the trip to go get them they announce their action packed itinerary, with absolutely nothing of what I discussed with them and then expect me to go along with it.

Captain don't play that.

Ugh. Sorry to hear that.


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When I'm at the table, I'm there for the adventure, the camaraderie, and the snacks.
I'm not there for arguing for an hour over strategy, and I loathe shopping IRL, so why would I want to roleplay pretend shopping?


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Rawr! wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
There are nuances, and there's the constant argument about whether or not roleplay/optimization is a dichotomy, but it's pretty much, "Do we waste time at the table doing non-plot-related things or not?"
Hey, man. I want to be extremely effective at completely derailing the plot by doing something completely stupid and time-wasting.

I thought I was the only one.

Offers fist bump.

Have I mentioned how it took us three sessions to start the planned scenario in Star Wars? We were busy bringing chaos and discord in the Rebellion base we were just assigned to...


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It is what it is.

I already sent out the second email (because my first was too polite for them to listen) explaining the original agreement and how important it is to the kids.


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Lisamarlene, I saw your rankings of Doctors Who, and I'm curious if you've heard any of the Big Finish productions for the old-school Doctors. The writers for Colin Baker's stories did a tremendous job of rehabilitating him. Until I heard those, I had the same basic opinion about Colin Baker as the worst Doctor.


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Rawr! wrote:
Lisamarlene, I saw your rankings of Doctors Who, and I'm curious if you've heard any of the Big Finish productions for the old-school Doctors. The writers for Colin Baker's stories did a tremendous job of rehabilitating him. Until I heard those, I had the same basic opinion about Colin Baker as the worst Doctor.

No, I haven't, but now I may have to!


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lisamarlene wrote:
Rawr! wrote:
Lisamarlene, I saw your rankings of Doctors Who, and I'm curious if you've heard any of the Big Finish productions for the old-school Doctors. The writers for Colin Baker's stories did a tremendous job of rehabilitating him. Until I heard those, I had the same basic opinion about Colin Baker as the worst Doctor.
No, I haven't, but now I may have to!

Here is a link to the monthly Doctor Who range

There are quite a few. I can talk to a friend of mine who is a big Doctor Who fan for recommendations, if you'd like.


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We've finally clawed our way above 0 degrees as it's currently 1 degree.

That's not accounting for windchill.


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So, they travelled back in time and abducted the Goonies to cast Stranger Things.

Well played!


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captain yesterday wrote:

So, they travelled back in time and abducted the Goonies to cast Stranger Things.

Well played!

For some reason I thought you had seen Stranger Things already.

There are a lot of callbacks to 80s movies in the show. I'm sure there are references that I completely missed on the first viewing.


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My sister began watching Stranger Things while staying with us this weekend, and...

Spoiler:
The wall-monster reminds me of the Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth. Super creepy.

Quote of the Weekend: "I think this show is answering all of Lost's mysteries." [My sister, referring to the show's apparent plan to actually reveal its mysteries.]


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I don't have Netflix so I'd never seen Stranger Things yet.

I heard great things about it though.

So far it seems like a darker Gravity Falls.


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lisamarlene wrote:

Hey, Limey?

My kids were asking me last night what one is supposed to DO for Boxing Day.
The obvious answer to me is "eat leftovers, play with toys, and gobble the extra chocolate Santa brought you until you're sick", but apparently Mom is WRONG, because EVERYBODY does that the day after Christmas.

Traditionally, the tradesmen (grocer, butcher, dustbinman, etc.) that you dealt with used to come around with a box that you put goodies in to say thankyou, or you put out a box filled with goodies for them, but that doesn't happen anymore.

All of the things you mentioned do happen; there are also special soccer matches, it's the start of the post-Xmas sales in the shops, though that's less of a deal since Black Friday came in, it was a day for big fox-hunts before that got banned, and a lot of people like to go and swim in the sea. Mostly, folks just sit around in a fat-happy daze and watch kakky TV or argue with their relations.

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