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Yeah but the 5th edition fans (at least in our area) would probably claim playing it can cure leprosy. :-)

Perhaps they aren't as numerous or obnoxious where you are.


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lisamarlene wrote:

Looking for recommendations:

My daughter has decided that she is "into comics", even though (a) she's six and a half, and (b) the only comic books she's actually seen are a few old Wonder Woman comics of mine.

What are some good "starter" comics that are more or less age appropriate? She likes superheroes, magic and witches (both Hermione and Kiki), and I want to give her "real" comics, not crap like Wendy that well-meaning idiots foisted on me as a child.

Suggestions?

Well, when I was around that age I read Marsupilami. A few years later I graduated to Spirou, Asterix, the Adventures of TinTin, Lucky Luke and Yoko Tsuno...

Yes American comics, outside of Disney related comics, wasn't really all that mainstream back then, over here in the dark corners of Denmark. I didn't get into the whole Marvel/DC/Image/... until my late teens.

But more seriously, I think she might be a bit on the young side, but if you could get your hands on a Marsupilami or Yoko Tsuno. comic, it might be something for her.

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G!# d&%mit, I feel so European, and slightly elitist for writing this. Maybe some Scotch will make me feel better...


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I refuse to even touch anything 5th edition.
I promise it doesn't inflict leprosy.

Neither does 4e, but it inspires a lot of similar reactions around here.

*shrug*


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My great aunt and uncle used to send me Asterix and Billy The Kid comics from Europe when they were doing their globe trotting thing.

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captain yesterday wrote:
Perhaps they aren't as numerous or obnoxious where you are.

I saw a table of AL once when I was at the FLGS. That's about the extent of exposure I've had.


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I remember liking Asterix a lot, but having no clue what the heck was going on.


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So is it just me, or when you hear, "This $1200 rebate is only good for non-Chrysler owners" do you think, "Boy, I'm glad I never bought a Chrysler! They really hose their customers!"

Probably NOT what they want you to take away from that ad...

(And yeah, work has slowed down massively, so I'll be annoying for a while)


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NobodysHome wrote:
I remember liking Asterix a lot, but having no clue what the heck was going on.

Asterix is the tops.


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captain yesterday wrote:

Yeah but the 5th edition fans (at least in our area) would probably claim playing it can cure leprosy. :-)

Perhaps they aren't as numerous or obnoxious where you are.

5th ed fans are cheerful, happy people.


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NobodysHome wrote:

So is it just me, or when you hear, "This $1200 rebate is only good for non-Chrysler owners" do you think, "Boy, I'm glad I never bought a Chrysler! They really hose their customers!"

Probably NOT what they want you to take away from that ad...

(And yeah, work has slowed down massively, so I'll be annoying for a while)

Nor that they make such junk no one wants to be a repeat customer.


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Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Yeah but the 5th edition fans (at least in our area) would probably claim playing it can cure leprosy. :-)

Perhaps they aren't as numerous or obnoxious where you are.

5th ed fans are cheerful, happy people.

Virile, sensitive and intelligent, too.


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Limeylongears wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Yeah but the 5th edition fans (at least in our area) would probably claim playing it can cure leprosy. :-)

Perhaps they aren't as numerous or obnoxious where you are.

5th ed fans are cheerful, happy people.
Virile, sensitive and intelligent, too.

*Pulls at the waistband of his stretchy sweatpants, and looks down at his crouch*

Huh...

Might have to have a look at that 5ed then.

I have been feeling a tad bit less sensitive down there lately...

Never was too smart either...

^^'

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Gods in my game worlds(even if it's pathfinder) :

1)Generally don't give a fk on what you're doing unless you grossly violate their tenets. And it's YOU, not a party member. They won't blame you for a party member's misdeeds.

2)If you pray to them, they will answer.

Reason for their generally non-interventionist stance - players are supposed to be the stars of the game. And players should given agency.

Free will and choice matters in my games.


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NobodysHome wrote:
doctor_wu wrote:
I am feeling lonely now but am having problems with my dad keep on changing my schedule when I set out on doing things.

Make him give you a written schedule, telling him it'll "help you remember". Make plans during free time. When he changes the schedule on you, say, "But Dad! I had this printout and I was very careful to schedule this during my free time!"

It will get the point across.

Dad SHOULD care.

He is quite stubborn on that and I live with him and can't really afford to move out. It is more I try to do something but then he wants me to do something else.

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My best suggestion, make a lust of specific examples, and tell him your frustration. Have the examples ready for if he doesn't realize he's doing it. Then ask for / suggest ways to solve the miscommunication.

You know him better than we do. If he's a fair guy, he's just making assumptions, and not thinking about how they affect you. I'm turning 40 in less than two weeks, and my dad still has a hard time my adulthood seriously when I try to help him with a problem

(Getting them to allow me to come home and help when my dad fell and tore his thigh muscle off his knee completely while my mom was recovering from her second brain surgery took determination, recruit of family allies to pressure them, and a refusal to stop asking them to let me help until I wore them down.)

Go in with clear definition of the issue, a positive attitude and determination to find a solution for both of you, and you're making finding a solution easier.

It's hopefully just a misunderstanding / oversight.


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Kjeldorn wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:

Looking for recommendations:

My daughter has decided that she is "into comics", even though (a) she's six and a half, and (b) the only comic books she's actually seen are a few old Wonder Woman comics of mine.

What are some good "starter" comics that are more or less age appropriate? She likes superheroes, magic and witches (both Hermione and Kiki), and I want to give her "real" comics, not crap like Wendy that well-meaning idiots foisted on me as a child.

Suggestions?

Well, when I was around that age I read Marsupilami. A few years later I graduated to Spirou, Asterix, the Adventures of TinTin, Lucky Luke and Yoko Tsuno...

Yes American comics, outside of Disney related comics, wasn't really all that mainstream back then, over here in the dark corners of Denmark. I didn't get into the whole Marvel/DC/Image/... until my late teens.

But more seriously, I think she might be a bit on the young side, but if you could get your hands on a Marsupilami or Yoko Tsuno. comic, it might be something for her.

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G~$ d+!mit, I feel so European, and slightly elitist for writing this. Maybe some Scotch will make me feel better...

My dude, my eight year old self was all about every Tin Tin and Asterix comic I could procure from my Grandmother's local library. You're cool.

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Yeah I had my family hinting that I should visit my niece when I had a concert booked. I told them, "Hey but I've been telling you about this Distant Worlds concert for this whole week! And the tickets were bought a month back!"

You need to have some private time too...

Scheduling is a good idea.

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5e...ahh 5e. I haven't been playing for long, only GMed a single game, so what I'm saying may not be representative of the whole picture.

5e aims to give freedom to GMs. I've seen on the GM side the description of the encounter is very brief.

So here's an example: The party goes to a tavern. There a pirates in the tavern. They have hostages in the tavern kitchen guarded by more pirates. There is a secret passage in the kitchen that leads to the cellar where the party needs to get to. Statblock for a generic pirate given.

Me:Wtf? How many pirates are there?

I don't like ambiguous stuff because I don't like to homebrew, feeling it would not be fair to the players. Since I could probably come up with CR appropriate encounters that are Wtf.

In the end I settled for 1 pirate for every player character.

Player side of 5e: Colourspray has been nerfed! Sleep was improved certainly. But still bloody random. But there's no Glitterdust, create pit, aqueous orb...

Me:Oh Screw it I don't see any spells I like so I'll eschew magic altogether.(Says the cat who is usually a casty)

Conversation between me and wizard player:

Me: So how does a wizard play God in 5e?

Wizard player: A good wizard prepares the right spells. A very good wizard uses the spells he prepares to fit the situation, even if it seems unintuitive.

He proceeds to describe the last time they were chased by 50 orcs, there were 2 wizards, and they were passing a Rocky cave. So one wizard shattered the cave celling, the other wizard used web, holding the celling in place. When the orcs came, the wizard dismissed the webs and crushed the orcs in a Rockfall.

I mean sure that's creative, but... There's no mechanics for this. It's all dependent on GM Fiat...

I can't do things that no rules stated it works. It goes against my inherent lawful nature. I don't think I'll ever be able to play a wizard properly in 5e.

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Oh and I hated the spellplague. Did victims of it do anything wrong to deserve that fate? No it was just a freaking accident!

It's one thing to screw yourself over. Like. I use gate to summon a Balor demon, uncontrolled. (Because of insufficient caster level)

GM:Balor eats you up and drags your soul to the abyss.

That makes sense, the PC had it coming...

BTW guys, am I spamming? I mean I could put all my 3 posts together but I think it'd be rather long and hard to read.

Furthermore my answers are about different topics.


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I adored Asterix, but the humor will go waaay over her head (Valuaddedtax, for example). Definitely when she's a bit older, though.
Tintin is problematic... there's so much to like, and then there's the casual racism. You really have to pick-and-choose which books are okay and which aren't.

BUT... it looks like the collected list of other recommendations (working backwards) are:
Marsupilami or Yoko Tsuno (Yoko Tsuno looks fantastic)
Kiki Manga (reading that post made me feel like Peregrin Took saying "It comes in PINTS?!?")
Lumberjanes (may be just perfect)

Hopefully at least one of these (going to try the local shops comic shops rather than Amazon) will end up in Santa's bag for her stocking.

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I never got into comics much because my family told me not to read them as it was bad for my English.

Anyway the marvel/DC stuff, now I actually try to read them, they've reset the time line so many times I have a freaking headache and I gave up trying to follow it.

So no loss, anyway.


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Jess Door wrote:
My best suggestion, make a lust of specific examples,

... are.... are you... secretly Freehold...?


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NobodysHome wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:

Looking for recommendations:

My daughter has decided that she is "into comics", even though (a) she's six and a half, and (b) the only comic books she's actually seen are a few old Wonder Woman comics of mine.

What are some good "starter" comics that are more or less age appropriate? She likes superheroes, magic and witches (both Hermione and Kiki), and I want to give her "real" comics, not crap like Wendy that well-meaning idiots foisted on me as a child.

Suggestions?

Aren't YOU the one who loaned Impus Major the Myth Adventures books? Or are those too old for her?

And Kiki's Delivery Service started off as a manga. If Hermione needs a Christmas present, the series could mysteriously appear on her doorstep. NobodysHome has ways. Or at least Amazon...

Other than that, if you're looking for good Marvel/DC comics, I started on The Amazing Spider-Man at around 7 years old. But that was in the Dark Ages. I don't know how much "adult" comic books have changed since then. I'd honestly focus more on manga than traditional 4-color comics.

Unfortunately, the only ones I can lend you right now are One Punch Man, and I think that's a little above her level.

Also, I don't know whether the right-to-left style of manga would cause her issues...

Could have sworn I lent Myth Adventures to Minor, not Major, and if they ever make it into a graphic novel series, it would be perfect, but alas, it doesn't count as it is.

She would adore Kiki manga. Right to left shouldn't bother her a bit; she's used to reading and writing in Chinese, where sometimes it's done traditionally and sometimes in L-R rows, depending on what they're studying.

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TL it was a typo. I make many of those.. Since I'm mostly posting from phone.


Just a Mort wrote:
TL it was a typo. I make many of those.. Since I'm mostly posting from phone.

(I am aware. I, also make typos all the time, yet hail from a predominantly English speaking country. Pointing out that the typo, in question, makes it seem like another poster is the "joke" so to speak. :D)


Just a Mort wrote:

I never got into comics much because my family told me not to read them as it was bad for my English.

Anyway the marvel/DC stuff, now I actually try to read them, they've reset the time line so many times I have a freaking headache and I gave up trying to follow it.

So no loss, anyway.

For the record:

- DC has reset the timeline (multiple times); they do this to keep things "accessible" but they also keep the old stuff around and it never really makes much sense, so.
- Marvel just keeps going forward, the logic or consequences of such mean little (and no real "years" pass, unless it's story relevant)
- both have alternate realities where things worked out differently

EDIT: for a clarification and also to note this: I'm a Margel fanboy... >.>


Mort: wither you're not spamming, or we both are. So!


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So...I miss my ex wife more than anything I think I have ever missed in my life. I told her today I'm going to try to fix things. Hard work like that is better than feeling like there's a hole in my chest I'm constantly trying to fill with pot, meaningless sex, sleep, s*@@ty video games, and general cynicism and hatred.

It went over surprisingly better than I expected. No "that will work" but no "get the hell away from me" either.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I don't mind the Spellplague, what I didn't like is their "rock falls, everyone dies, let's advance the timeline 102 years, because..." explanation.
Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Didn't 5e go "Rocks unfall, everyone's alive again"?

I've heard that Greenwood still DMs his original 1e-era FR campaign. Isn't picking and choosing which era to use with which edition half the point of FR?

One of the most hilarious things I've ever read is Ed Wood's opening to a novel he wrote after 4E came out.

Now, Ed was (and remains) under a looooooot of NDAs, and he's contractually obligated not to bad-mouth his own associated products. He has pointed out that some things weren't to his... ah... preference, though, and (along with spellfire mechanics, in general), 4E fell into one of those things. Often.

I will suggest it is the events of 4E/Spellplague ala CY's problems, not the mechanics, though there seemed to be a few issues with that, as well. Obviously, I cannot speak with authority, only speculation.

The 4E FRCG noted that Elminster was no longer able to use his magic, and was aging rapidly. He'd become a recluse stuck in his tower in Shadowdale, and lost pretty much everything, because his goddess was exploded, and he was just a grumpy dude who gave crotchety advice in a musty tower to adventurers who came to talk to him (for which he charged them money).

So, Greenwood is hired to write a novel set in 4E.

Very first prologue, we start with some dudes going to see Elminster in his tower. It's clearly the thing described in the FRCG. And Ed immediately has the doppleganger pretending to be Elminster this whole time be exploded and killed. Meanwhile, we find that Elminster has been an active pest in different kingdoms for the last century.

Subtle, Ed. Very subtle. XD

(The rest of that series, by the way, was all about <SPOILER>*)

* It probably shouldn't be, but...:
... Mystra not really being dead, you guys, only kind of, and also she was hiding out inside a cave bear who'd found some of her personal effects, because she was so low in power, she couldn't pull herself back together.

A very odd and particular thing, that I'm actually guessing this weirdly specific statement references (intentionally or not). Either way, that's a good comic and you should read it (if you like that sort of thing).

Anyway, the Sundering sets many things back the way they were before, but not everything - some people stay dead and gone, while others are newly dead, and some come back.

Alas, I don't have a 5E campaign setting book, so I don't know who or what in all the specifics, but I know that Manshoon is now just a vampire, Elminster is still going, and a bunch of dead people are back.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Honestly, I wish there were such a simple and compelling explanation for "Why don't the gods take an even more direct physical role in the world?"

Possibly that:

1) If god A decides to intervene personally, god B will do the same in order to counteract what they're doing. You'll then get into a colossal 'arms race' and Ao will get very cross.
2) They can't, due to some outside force/barrier that's stronger than they are and which obliges them to use mortal pawns
3) Laziness
4) They don't have a physical form, as such, so can't manifest on the/a material plane.

I think 1) is the closest to FR's conception, though I may be wrong.

Yeah now that I'm thinking about it, I remember reading a speculation somewhere (a Planescape book?) that "Maybe the gods tried direct conflict once, and all they accomplished was mutual destruction."

Within the context of D&D gods in general, rather than strictly FR, I can come up with three explanations:

1. The FR situation, where gods can interfere with the mortal world all they want, but are engaged in a sort of divine cold war in order to avoid mutually assured annihilation of worshippers and/or selves. So they spend time and divine mojo arming & supplying allies abroad (clerics), fight proxy wars (holy wars), and may even establish new missile bases (avatars) near enemy territory in order to deter enemy action. But they don't fully manifest themselves or directly intervene, because that's bad for everyone.

Of course there's always that one psycho god that even the other evil deities don't trust to keep his finger off the nuclear button.

2. Gods can manifest and intervene in the mortal world, but the very existence of their divine realms are dependent on their continual presence there. So gods are very reluctant to leave their divine realms, knowing that even a temporary absence will result in dramatic decay that will require much time and divine mojo to restore...

Oh! Also that home brew campaign setting, I'd forgotten: (2) of this list was also part of it. They could leave, yeah, but then they'd have to worry about powerful evil forces literally tearing down the gates of heaven and eating their worshipers' souls, so...


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

So...I miss my ex wife more than anything I think I have ever missed in my life. I told her today I'm going to try to fix things. Hard work like that is better than feeling like there's a hole in my chest I'm constantly trying to fill with pot, meaningless sex, sleep, s~$$ty video games, and general cynicism and hatred.

It went over surprisingly better than I expected. No "that will work" but no "get the hell away from me" either.

Your in my prayers, my dude.

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My familiarity with FR is fully and singularly due to every NWN server I've spent time on being set there. I'd play elsewhere, but the community decided on FR long before I was in charge.

Getting frustrated with existing settings and wanting the freedom to do whatever I wished with my plots is why I ended up moving on and building my own setting with my PnP group.

Silver Crusade

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captain yesterday wrote:

How to get the new people to think you're a manager in two easy steps.

1. Forget your nametag at home.

2. Boss the new people around like you're a manager.

It helps if the managers don't contradict you and treat you (relatively) like an equal (in that I know my job and they trust I'll do it right so they don't boss me around).

Way back when I worked as a bank teller, people assumed I was a manager all the time because I wore a tie. It was to the point where I could walk to someone else’s window and say, “Oh no, she’s right. We can’t accept that.” And they would believe I had some sort of authority.


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I'm so sparkly, you don't even know.

Silver Crusade

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Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

Here you go, Tacticslion:

I would be an Oracle with the Diva Bard archetype, which makes no sense, but seems like the type of thing I would do. With a PrC, let’s flip it and go Bard/Radiant Servant.

why oracle?

I thought you would go straight bard.

Because I’m a Celestial Healer. Oracle of Life sounds about right.

Of course, I threw in a fun Bard archetype.

I admit, I was hoping you would just sing "get betteeeeeeeeeeer" at sick people.

I tried that. They banned me from that hospice.


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Manshoon, Sparkly Vampire Lord wrote:
I'm so sparkly, you don't even know.

Gods and ashes, stop embarrassing us.


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Manshoon, Sparkly Vampire Lord wrote:
I'm so sparkly, you don't even know.

I sparkle on the outside, but I’m sad on the inside.


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Angsty, the Androgynous Vampire wrote:
Manshoon, Sparkly Vampire Lord wrote:
I'm so sparkly, you don't even know.
I sparkle on the outside, but I’m sad on the inside.

And you. I know I fed you to a Devourer.

Shadow Lodge

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Tacticslion wrote:
Mort: wither you're not spamming, or we both are. So!

Spam? This is FAWTL, dear boy. We are the ur example.

Perhaps it is time to return to the blitz...

Scarab Sages

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The Ballroom Blitz?


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captain yesterday wrote:

I refuse to even touch anything 5th edition.

It doesn't matter which era is used, forgotten realms is forever after dead to me.

this is the best news I have heard today.


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lisamarlene wrote:

I adored Asterix, but the humor will go waaay over her head (Valuaddedtax, for example). Definitely when she's a bit older, though.

Tintin is problematic... there's so much to like, and then there's the casual racism. You really have to pick-and-choose which books are okay and which aren't.

BUT... it looks like the collected list of other recommendations (working backwards) are:
Marsupilami or Yoko Tsuno (Yoko Tsuno looks fantastic)
Kiki Manga (reading that post made me feel like Peregrin Took saying "It comes in PINTS?!?")
Lumberjanes (may be just perfect)

Hopefully at least one of these (going to try the local shops comic shops rather than Amazon) will end up in Santa's bag for her stocking.

until i read this, that is.

self high 5

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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

So...I miss my ex wife more than anything I think I have ever missed in my life. I told her today I'm going to try to fix things. Hard work like that is better than feeling like there's a hole in my chest I'm constantly trying to fill with pot, meaningless sex, sleep, s##~ty video games, and general cynicism and hatred.

It's good that you've decided to do something about it. Afterall at the end of the day, at least you can proudly say you tried, whether it works out or not.

And I don't think she'd want to see you make a mess out of your life either.


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Jess Door wrote:

My best suggestion, make a lust of specific examples, and tell him your frustration. Have the examples ready for if he doesn't realize he's doing it. Then ask for / suggest ways to solve the miscommunication.

You know him better than we do. If he's a fair guy, he's just making assumptions, and not thinking about how they affect you. I'm turning 40 in less than two weeks, and my dad still has a hard time my adulthood seriously when I try to help him with a problem

(Getting them to allow me to come home and help when my dad fell and tore his thigh muscle off his knee completely while my mom was recovering from her second brain surgery took determination, recruit of family allies to pressure them, and a refusal to stop asking them to let me help until I wore them down.)

Go in with clear definition of the issue, a positive attitude and determination to find a solution for both of you, and you're making finding a solution easier.

It's hopefully just a misunderstanding / oversight.

FELLOW SAGITTARIUS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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Tacticslion wrote:
Jess Door wrote:
My best suggestion, make a lust of specific examples,
... are.... are you... secretly Freehold...?

no.

She is my familiar, an ordinary cat.

That turns into a redhead with exrraordinary tresses.

Completely ordinary.


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Google, Demon Queen of Spiders wrote:
The Ballroom Blitz?

To be followed by the Blitzkrieg Bop.


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So tonight at dinner I got geeky and mentioned my thoughts on why deities don't just manifest in the mortal world and do as they will, and my wife said "I like number 2 the best..."

#2:

Spoiler:
2. Gods can manifest and intervene in the mortal world, but the very existence of their divine realms are dependent on their continual presence there. So gods are very reluctant to leave their divine realms, knowing that even a temporary absence will result in dramatic decay that will require much time and divine mojo to restore upon return.

"Also, maybe it's not so much decay of their divine realms that keeps them there -- maybe prayers are channeled through those divine realms into power, and gods can't perform the prayer-to-power conversion while away."

To which Homunculus #1 added "And what if gods become mortal if they stay in the mortal world too long?"

I love my geeky family SO much, and all of this is now my default explanation for BECAUSE GODS. :D


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

So...I miss my ex wife more than anything I think I have ever missed in my life. I told her today I'm going to try to fix things. Hard work like that is better than feeling like there's a hole in my chest I'm constantly trying to fill with pot, meaningless sex, sleep, s&%%ty video games, and general cynicism and hatred.

It went over surprisingly better than I expected. No "that will work" but no "get the hell away from me" either.

Good luck. I am here if you need to talk.


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5 full pages everyone solid work.


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Just what do you have to do to find an affordable hostel in any major American city? I mean, really. What the hell? And New York City straight up bans them.

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