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Bravo to whoever thought it would be a great idea to have a huge train go through downtown during rush hour.

Someone really thought that one through.

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No they didn't.


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S@!* happens in rush hour traffic.


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captain yesterday wrote:
S*@@ happens in rush hour traffic.

I believe it doesn't, and that's why people are so desperate and willing to do anything to get home faster so it does happen...

I really should ban myself from the intrawebs today...


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And I started reading this and thinking, "That's me, except that I'm the one who loves my 20-year-old Celica!"


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captain yesterday wrote:
S%$@ happens in rush hour traffic.

Did this happen when all we had was ye horse?

Verily, it did notte.

Progress, my chainmaille-wrapped arse.

Shadow Lodge

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At Halloween thing. Tonberry mask getup is hot as Heck. Also so so so many punny costumes.


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So, all you 3.5 old-schoolers: Was Shadow Conjuration ever a dangerous thing?

I'm doing prep work and I've got a caster using a 9th-level slot to cast Shades to summon... 1d4+1 fiendish dire tigers?

What good is a group of tigers at 21 hit points each going to do me against 14th-level PCs?

(I posted it in the rules section as well, but I figure I'll get a more polite answer here: Increasing the Shadow Conjuration from "regular" to "Greater" to Shades makes it go from 20% to 60% to 80% damage, which is really nice. But if you don't increase the hit points of the shadows, they're really just ouchy balloons, and you could be using your spells more wisely, methinks.)


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Finally home. Dice loved the babynerds tonight. Trinia, not so much.

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NobodysHome wrote:

So, all you 3.5 old-schoolers: Was Shadow Conjuration ever a dangerous thing?

I'm doing prep work and I've got a caster using a 9th-level slot to cast Shades to summon... 1d4+1 fiendish dire tigers?

What good is a group of tigers at 21 hit points each going to do me against 14th-level PCs?

(I posted it in the rules section as well, but I figure I'll get a more polite answer here: Increasing the Shadow Conjuration from "regular" to "Greater" to Shades makes it go from 20% to 60% to 80% damage, which is really nice. But if you don't increase the hit points of the shadows, they're really just ouchy balloons, and you could be using your spells more wisely, methinks.)

It really requires that one gnome prestige class to function to full capacity.


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Orthos wrote:
At Halloween thing. Tonberry mask getup is hot as Heck. Also so so so many punny costumes.

Go on...


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Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
The only rumor I want confirmed about the game is that the blasphemous class "mathematician" is removed from the game and replaced with soemthing less awful.
TriOmegaZero wrote:
It was not. #dealwithit

I am now even more psyched to play FFT.

Mostly because I draw immense pleasure from flaunting others' pet peeves. Especially Freehold's.

okay. Make your all mathematician party. Don't come crying to me when you die. win like a baws!

I helped! Again!

No, but seriously, once you've trained them fully, switch them to wizard - or even better, ninja - and proceed to win D&D FFT.

EDIT: just to be clear, though, spend as little time/XP as you can in the calculator class: just master their skill set (not even that is technically necessary, if you master '3' and make sure to have a level-drainer so you're always lvl98) and switch to some other class. You will win.

iirc, ninjas two hand technique was the game breaker.

Did I use that with guns? I think I did.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Aaaand, FOUR-DAY WEEKEND! Woo hoo!

So, Shiro and Hi are coming over tonight for dinner and anime. Since we just got CrunchyRoll premium, what should we watch?

EDIT: I may try to force Hi to bite the bullet and watch Kill La Kill with us. He's really uncomfortable with T&A shows, which Kill la Kill is in spades, but its entire "Clothing is the Enemy" theme is side-splitting, and after a slow start the kids watched the whole series while I was working, and it seemed like a darned good series. Once you can get past the whole, "The fewer clothes I wear, the more powerful I become" angle of it...

all y'all are crazy.


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TOZ wrote:
That's logically impossible. The fanservice is through the roof.

??? You and I have different concepts of "logic".

But then, I'm a mathematician. My concepts of "logic" are probably different from 99.5% of all sentient beings.

jumps off screen, hopes NobodysHome doesn't move for 3 turns


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NobodysHome wrote:
TOZ wrote:
Seriously, you can't be uncomfortable with T&A and have Food Wars be your favorite show. It just doesn't compute with orgasmic cooking.

Ah, THAT logic!

Yeah, *we* didn't understand that one, either.

The show made everyone else uncomfortable, but Hi loved it.

But the first outfit in Kill la Kill? Hi averted his eyes.

I don't understand it, but I try to accommodate it.

CRAZY


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NobodysHome wrote:

So, all you 3.5 old-schoolers: Was Shadow Conjuration ever a dangerous thing?

I'm doing prep work and I've got a caster using a 9th-level slot to cast Shades to summon... 1d4+1 fiendish dire tigers?

What good is a group of tigers at 21 hit points each going to do me against 14th-level PCs?

(I posted it in the rules section as well, but I figure I'll get a more polite answer here: Increasing the Shadow Conjuration from "regular" to "Greater" to Shades makes it go from 20% to 60% to 80% damage, which is really nice. But if you don't increase the hit points of the shadows, they're really just ouchy balloons, and you could be using your spells more wisely, methinks.)

again iirc shadow conjugation is a legacy spell. Was deadly in 2nd ed, to the point of nonsense, is less so in this version of the game.

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Gonna make me break out War of the Lions...


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OK, Jade Regent is really really making me sad.

Jade Regent Spoilers:
After a decent Book 1, Books 2 and 3 were terrible, and my whole group almost quit. Book 3's whole approach can be summarized in one example: "Well, you can take the mountain pass, or the tunnels, or go around to the south. Wait? You want to do anything except the tunnels? Sorry, it wasn't actually a choice. I just wanted to make it feel like one while I ruthlessly railroad you. Now, as you approach the tunnels..."

Book 4 was a beautiful masterwork of, "I'm sorry, readers. Let me fix all this for you."
From the koo-koo prince to start the book to the intricate plotlines of the House of Withered Blossoms, the group was hooked again. Book 5 again had the story of O-Sayumi, and the earlier books were forgiven.
Book 6's initial visit to the Imperial Shrine and the Well of Demons seemed to continue that trend of a solid, high-quality AP. All you had to do was get past Books 2 and 3.

Now I'm prepping the castle.

From, "The Tempest Commanders can See Invisible, so approaching invisibly won't work. What do you mean, I forgot to put a single Tempest Commander in the entire castle?!?!? WTF is wrong with me?", to, "Shadow Conjured dire tigers with 21 hit points each will be a challenging fight worth running for my party" to "A group of 5 monks will be a challenging fight worth running for my party", the whole castle feels like a mess of, "Well, *I* love monks and ninjas and Asian combat styles, so they must be more dangerous than anything else, no matter what the rules and playtesting say."

I really do love the monk who spends his first round Intimidating ONE party member. Yeah, THAT'LL be useful in a level-14 fight...

So yeah, it's a long litany of silly, pointless, unchallenging fights against bad guys who are seemingly utterly irrational. I can't "feel" a motivation for any of 'em.

Castle Korvosa in Crimson Throne kills people. The Imperial Palace in Jade Regent threatens to bore them to death.

Not a great climax after 3 nice solid books, guys!


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Crap. The tooth filling have fallen out. On Friday night. Great. It will be pain in the ass to replace it...

Duh. I don't need to eat over the weekend anyway, do I?


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Drejk wrote:

Crap. The tooth filling have fallen out. On Friday night. Great. It will be pain in the ass to replace it...

Duh. I don't need to eat over the weekend anyway, do I?

And I thought Lynora had nerves in weird places...


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Good news! The summoner is starting to suspect something's fishy about the queen.

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Orthos wrote:
At Halloween thing. Tonberry mask getup is hot as Heck. Also so so so many punny costumes.
Go on...

Cereal killer - box of lucky charms hanging from shirt with knife thru

Identity thief - shirt covered with "hi my name is" stickers, wearing ski mask
Chip on his shoulder - bag of lays taped to shoulder
Etc etc etc


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How much time until the plagues hit?


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Depends. They're about to head into the Dead Warrens.

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NobodysHome wrote:

OK, Jade Regent is really really making me sad.

** spoiler omitted **...

My sympathies. I'm guessing rebuilding them to something else is not something you have time for?


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We should get our first snow tonight.


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captain yesterday wrote:
We should get our first snow tonight.

shakes fist


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That's life on the tundra.


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I'm dreading winter. Snowstorms + unlit rural highways are a baaaad combo.

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Blast you, Mab, wait your turn!


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So, I um...don't think I earned any brownie points with the football team today.


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We got 10 pumpkins from the garden this year.

The General has decided we're pumpkin farmers now.


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I use Kahoot for test reviews, and the faster you answer, the higher potential score you get. Today, it was very, very close for 3rd v. 4th place. This is important because the site automatically does a gold-silver-bronze thing for top 3.

So, top 3 are decided, and I walk around with the prize box. One of the football players pipes up...

"Ms. Scint, I was only 2 points off of top 3. Do I get a prize?" (And this is very close for Kahoot - sometimes the difference between places is thousands. But...rules is rules.)

My response: "You were only two touchdowns off last night. Did you get a prize?"

...you know that gif of a small crowd just losing their minds over a magic trick? That was my classroom.


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Oh come on! He threw that game on purpose!!

Tears up betting slips, kicks dirt in frustration.


Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
The only rumor I want confirmed about the game is that the blasphemous class "mathematician" is removed from the game and replaced with soemthing less awful.
TriOmegaZero wrote:
It was not. #dealwithit

I am now even more psyched to play FFT.

Mostly because I draw immense pleasure from flaunting others' pet peeves. Especially Freehold's.

okay. Make your all mathematician party. Don't come crying to me when you die. win like a baws!

I helped! Again!

No, but seriously, once you've trained them fully, switch them to wizard - or even better, ninja - and proceed to win D&D FFT.

EDIT: just to be clear, though, spend as little time/XP as you can in the calculator class: just master their skill set (not even that is technically necessary, if you master '3' and make sure to have a level-drainer so you're always lvl98) and switch to some other class. You will win.

iirc, ninjas two hand technique was the game breaker.

Did I use that with guns? I think I did.

I didn't think you could get two guns at the same time!

... I may have to play again.


Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
The only rumor I want confirmed about the game is that the blasphemous class "mathematician" is removed from the game and replaced with soemthing less awful.
TriOmegaZero wrote:
It was not. #dealwithit

I am now even more psyched to play FFT.

Mostly because I draw immense pleasure from flaunting others' pet peeves. Especially Freehold's.

okay. Make your all mathematician party. Don't come crying to me when you die. win like a baws!

I helped! Again!

No, but seriously, once you've trained them fully, switch them to wizard - or even better, ninja - and proceed to win D&D FFT.

EDIT: just to be clear, though, spend as little time/XP as you can in the calculator class: just master their skill set (not even that is technically necessary, if you master '3' and make sure to have a level-drainer so you're always lvl98) and switch to some other class. You will win.

Let me clarify something about Calculators (well, I think they're called "Mathematicians," now) is they have terrible stats, but phenomenal cosmic powers.

Normally spells cost magic points (akin to psionic power points, but without augmenting), and "charge time" (basically, all spells have multiple round casting times). Spells come from all sorts of classes (white mage, black mage, mystic, time mage, summoner, or bard; also "dancer" but we try not to talk about those - at least they're better than bards, though). It also usually does a splash damage area (basically an area-effect), though there are plenty of single-target spells, too.

However, if you've gained any abilities from the classes White Mage (originally "Priest"), Black Wizard (originally "Wizard"), Mystic (originally "Oracle"), or Time Mage, you can use any of those spells you've learned for "free" (at no MP cost) by "calculating" certain statistics.

You select a statistic such as speed (CT - how fast you act), Level (it's the character level), EXP (how much XP the target has), or Height (how "high up" the target is from a hypothetical "0" that all battle maps have, but might not be accessible).

Then you select a number to base the calculation on, such as prime (any prime number), or multiple of 5 or 4 or 3 (this is exactly what it sounds like).

You then choose the spell.

It costs no mp and happens instantly. And it applies to everyone related to that calculation.

So, it's like this. Let's say you choose "level," and "3," and the black mage spell "fire" - this then looks at any character on the field who's level is a multiple of three (so levels 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, 33, 36, 39, 42, 45, 48, 51, 54, 57, 60, 63, 66, 69, 72, 75, 78, 81, 84, 87, 90, 93, 96, or 99; if you want to be complete about it) and hits them. Doesn't matter where they are. Doesn't matter about anything else. It's instant. Doesn't do splash area.

So, let's say there are fifty characters on the battlefield, all level 45 (this is kind of normal/possible in the end-game). You do this, and it hits everyone, instantly. This can even be useful by equipping stuff that allows you to absorb and enhance fire damage. So, if you play your cards right, you can literally damage all enemies on the field while healing all of your friends.

Now, the above situation is not likely to be constant - but it is quite possible.

The thing is, though, it's got terrible stats and stat-growth. It's not the worst (that dubious "honor" goes to bards), but it's pretty bad.

The best way to handle a calculator (sorry, "arithmatician") is to spend as little time leveling up as it as possible.

There are two methods of gaining "power" in this game: XP (you know what this is - it determines your character level), and JP ("job points" - this is what you use as a kind of currency to "purchase" special powers from your job; each job has a unique JP pool, so when you gain JP as a squire it goes to the squire class but not any other class*). So you pull tricks to maximize your JP and minimize your XP as a calculator, including training them by gaining maximum jp possible without gaining a level, and having them do nothing for the remainder of combat, switching their class in between combats, and leveling as that class (especially ninja for that sweet, sweet speed), having them do nothing after that for that combat, and switch them back in between combats and doing it all over again.

It should be noted that this is far easier to say than do. XD

Also, knights are, far and away, the best "controller" class in the game. Free at-will stat-breaking forever. If you give knight skills to a ninja, you're basically winning, as well. Or knight skills to a mediator (or engineer) for long-range stat-breaking powers.

Basically, there are a lot of ways to win, but it's never going to be easy (until you recruit... him, anyway). Especially because the random battles level up with you.

* That said, you're not the only one that gains JP in that class. From what I can tell, everyone else on your team gains ~1/10 the JP to the same class. So if you gain JP as a squire, it seems like everyone else does, too, even if they're not squires. It must be noted, though, that this is an incredibly slow and tedious, if extremely effective, way to gain jp for people without their class.


NobodysHome wrote:

OK, Jade Regent is really really making me sad.

** spoiler omitted **...

Maybe think of it as a relaxing vacation, instead of boring. Like a reward! "These would be destructive if you were a lower level, or weaker - like the poor citizens of this place - but for you, it's easy! That's how awesome it is!"

... I don't particularly buy it, either, but... maybe~!


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133 man you guys are burning this one up eh?


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I got a new job selling alarm systems door-to-door. I'm pretty good at it. If no-one is home, I just leave a brochure and my card on their dining room table.


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I've never enjoyed surprise birthday parties. It just proves how good my friends and family are at lying to my face.


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Education is important, but other things are more importanter.


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Nothing to worry about.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
I got a new job selling alarm systems door-to-door. I'm pretty good at it. If no-one is home, I just leave a brochure and my card on their dining room table.

If it wasn't for the whole getting arrested thing that would be a solid way of convincing someone.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
I've never enjoyed surprise birthday parties. It just proves how good my friends and family are at lying to my face.

People have attempted to throw me a surprise birthday party but I always see through it. You would think since I'm a sound sleeper and asleep all day that they wouldn't have that much trouble springing it on me.


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Tacticslion wrote:

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Nothing to worry about.

nope firewall has them all blocked for me. oh its pfsrd ok yeah sadly work computer doesn't like pfsrd.


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No, seriously, I'm just closing some tabs.

Nothing to worry about.


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"I thought it was Harry Potter's traffic cone. You put it on your head, and it tells you how late you're going to be."
"Are you gonna come through the front door, or are you gonna Slytherin?"


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Here goes nothing.


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Huzzah~!


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It's gonna be such a trainwreck.

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