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I got my Advanced Player's Guide right after it came out when a guy gave us a hundred dollars each for taking our time and not cutting through his cable and phone (our boss assumed it would be cheaper for us to use a trencher, cut through everything get the drain pipe in and then have the repairman fix it afterwards) we still came out under the bid.

Good times!

Edit: D'oh!


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The sad part is, I specifically looked before that first post to make sure I wasn't going to be naked, and it happened anyway.

Typical.


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I thought some of you may be interested in the first ever Mobile Suit battle IRL as the US challenges Japan


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As long as they are pilot-controlled and not AI-controlled...


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What! We're not going to take over the world, that's crazy!

We're using you to build our spaceships so we can go to a different world and take that over. Seriously, people turned this into a s$!& hole.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me when people insult other peoples playstyle.
I am ashamed that I once made a habit of doing so.

I still do. When will people understand they are wrong and should like only what I like?!


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Aranna wrote:

I thought some of you may be interested in the first ever Mobile Suit battle IRL as the US challenges Japan

foams at mouth, rolls around on ground in ecstacy


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Freehold DM wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me when people insult other peoples playstyle.
I am ashamed that I once made a habit of doing so.
I still do. When will people understand they are wrong and should like only what I like?!

When you accept the Whedonverse as the one true way.


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Anime next day 2- START


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Gives Freehold a Rocky-esque shoulder rub.

Get back out there boss, you totally got this!


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I love Fritzy's new avatar image. :-)


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I has rants for youse guys!

Who wants one?


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Pea Bear"s new favorite song, and video.


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Magic item creation question time: Can you add enchantments onto magic items.

For example, Pea Bear has a +1 Chainsaw, could she then have the party Wizard add Shocking or Shocking Burst to it.


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captain yesterday wrote:

Magic item creation question time: Can you add enchantments onto magic items.

For example, Pea Bear has a +1 Chainsaw, could she then have the party Wizard add Shocking or Shocking Burst to it.

That's a FaWtL post???

You're asking for flaming bikes, mister!

But yeah, I *always* allow people to add enchantments to an already-existing magic item. Otherwise they burn gold selling the old one and buying the new one.

So NobodysHome gives the idea a +1.


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+1 Shocking (/Burst) Chainsaw??!!

Inferno Affirmative!!

I'm usually overgenerous with loot and such in my own games, so my players usually don't mind paying the 1.5x to add the mods. But, then, my games might involve BBEG-reanimated firebreathing demon skulls attacking the party from inside their own fortress before a horde of frostfell ghoul harpies descend upon their battlements, so . . . . Great risk, great reward kindathing.


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I think as long as it doesn't involve alignment, Paladins, or telling people they're doing it wrong I'll avoid the flaming bikes.

But yes, my thoughts exactly, just couldn't find if it was covered in the rules in either CRB or UE.

Thanks!


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Yes, it's generally allowed (though some GMs interpret otherwise because of fear - sometimes justified - of power gamers).


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In 3.5e the answer was yes.
The cost would be the difference between a +1 chainsaw and the +1 shocking (burst?) chainsaw.

Silver Crusade

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captain yesterday wrote:

Magic item creation question time: Can you add enchantments onto magic items.

For example, Pea Bear has a +1 Chainsaw, could she then have the party Wizard add Shocking or Shocking Burst to it.

TFY's crafting rules. If you have the feat and the cash, congrats you made the item.

I don't see why she could not, The cost would be 4k for shock or 9k for shocking burst


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I think this is the first time they've wanted to craft or upgrade anything other than wondrous magic items, with an emphasis on footwear and clothing.

But yeah, Pea Bear has been eyeing the Chainsaw since I got the technology guide. Also since she saw me using one cleaning up after a storm.

Edit: But especially the Death ray. Man does she want a Death ray.


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To be fair, I, also, want a death ray. Probably not for villainous purposes. (Unless you're an ant, roach, or germs that negatively afflict human beings. Muwahahahahahah~!)


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I want a monofilament rapier. Definitely for villainous purposes.


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NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Magic item creation question time: Can you add enchantments onto magic items.

For example, Pea Bear has a +1 Chainsaw, could she then have the party Wizard add Shocking or Shocking Burst to it.

That's a FaWtL post???

You're asking for flaming bikes, mister!

But yeah, I *always* allow people to add enchantments to an already-existing magic item. Otherwise they burn gold selling the old one and buying the new one.

So NobodysHome gives the idea a +1.

Items tend to be unaffected by mind-affecting items so no enchantments on them...

*ducks*


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captain yesterday wrote:
Pea Bear"s new favorite song, and video.

Not musically but visually that song would very much fit Rift's region I am spending the most time now.


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Limeylongears wrote:
I want a monofilament rapier. Definitely for villainous purposes.

A least it is not a one dimensional weapon.


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Um, isn't Parsecs a measurement of distance, not time.


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Drejk wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Pea Bear"s new favorite song, and video.
Not musically but visually that song would very much fit Rift's region I am spending the most time now.

Is It Russia, I always liked Rifts Russia.


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Rift. Not Rifts. Too many gargoyles around here in the later.


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I dunno, have you been to the New German Republic. They have some Gargoyle issues lemme tell you. :-)

But yes, I get what you mean. :-)


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Kingmaker Spoilers:
The tendelucuous(sp? - the fungus monster in book 2) is WAY too powerful to be CR6. 3 attacks at +11, +6, +6, with paralysis, grab, a ton of damage (for the level) AND swallow whole?

My 5th level party was WRECKED! I had one death, 2 characters in negative HP, 1 paralyzed, and one had literally her last spell left to do the killing blow.

Now I have to deal with one player baby pouting because this is his second character death. I told him he could have his old character rezzed and have been on a year vacation since then, you know, due to not dying, but that was it. I'm not going to pull my punches because he is used to godmode or videogames where strategy doesn't matter.


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I've found that plants are almost always overpowered in pathfinder.

I love them. :-)


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Orthos, TL, and anyone else who's an old school Final Fantasy fan may want to chime in.


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I did not realize that Warcraft had gone live already?


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I did not realize that Warcraft had gone live already?

Ugh. That foxtrot isn't loading on my phone for some reason.

But yes! We went to see Turtles 2 instead, but Howard Taylor gave it a surprisingly favorable review.

EDIT: if we get another date night, we're strongly considering Now You See Me 2; we saw the first last night, and it was really fun. But due to favorable reviews, we are considering the other.


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Started a thread about Suicide Squad type campaign for Pathfinder in AP section, I'd link it but kids are sleeping and as soon as I wake up the computer they'll wake up themselves. And I'm not willing to let that happen yet.

So peaceful, with a morning thunderstorm just to our west. These are the days. :-)


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American Girl Horse brush, it turns out is the best beard brush I have ever used.


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Pea Bear tricked Tiny T-Rex into eating spicy chips. But the joke's on her because Tiny T-Rex loves them, and seems unaffected by the spiciness. :-)

Pea Bear (after Tiny T-Rex had first bite): it says "Taste the heat"

Tiny T-Rex (grabbing another chip): okay, I'll taste it, it's great!


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Note to self: look up "Crayola Explosion" or "Color Explosion" or something...


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captain yesterday wrote:

Pea Bear tricked Tiny T-Rex into eating spicy chips. But the joke's on her because Tiny T-Rex loves them, and seems unaffected by the spiciness. :-)

Pea Bear (after Tiny T-Rex had first bite): it says "Taste the heat"

Tiny T-Rex (grabbing another chip): okay, I'll taste it, it's great!

You are raising a true man. One day he'll be drinking habanero hot sauce by the glass, staring weaker men in the eye while he does it, as women fawn over him, unable to touch his scalding skin. You should be proud. :-D


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captain yesterday wrote:

Magic item creation question time: Can you add enchantments onto magic items.

For example, Pea Bear has a +1 Chainsaw, could she then have the party Wizard add Shocking or Shocking Burst to it.

TFY's crafting rules. If you have the feat and the cash, congrats you made the item.

I don't see why she could not, The cost would be 4k for shock or 9k for shocking burst

Every couple of years I go on a 'I want to build/design/etc' magical items and weapons. (I have to start from almost scratch each time. My memory) ;P

AS far as I recall, you can add to any magical item after it is created. Weapons seem to be the easiest due to the fact that pretty much anything you can have them do is lined up, spelled out, and cost is already calculated. :)

IIRC, the cost you pay to upgrade a '+1 weapon' to a '+1 Weapon of flame burst' is the cost of the second weapon, MINUS the cost of the first (which you already own.) Taking into account that every +# (whether actual bonus or ability) the cost increases exponentially. :)

I am unfamiliar with the 'Cost 1.5' to add additional ability? (Unless they are talking about the exponential cost increase per +#?)

Ah there I go again.
Short answer- My understanding is YES. :)


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Sympathies and best wishes to everyone in Florida, given what's just happened - hope Amby/TL and all are safe and well.


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I have friends in Orlando - luckily none of them are club going types so I know they're okay.


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TL posted just over a hour ago, so I (hopefully) assume he and his close ones are safe.


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It was a gay nightclub that was attacked. Considering he has a wife and kids...

Also, TL is in Ocala, which is outside of Orlando, but a decent enough drive where it's not really worth driving there regularly.

Ah, man now I'm wondering about a friend of a friend of mine. I hope he's okay...


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Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow the movie, is it good, is it fun, will I want my two hours back after watching it.


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F##~ing A! That's a steaming load of s!+*! G%~+%@n it!

Best wishes for Orlando!

Just words I know. Damn!


(Parked now, so I can finally make the post I'd had ready...)

Tacticslion wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
I did not realize that Warcraft had gone live already?

Ugh. That foxtrot isn't loading on my phone for some reason.

But yes! We went to see Turtles 2 instead, but Howard Taylor gave it a surprisingly favorable review.

EDIT: if we get another date night, we're strongly considering Now You See Me 2; we saw the first last night, and it was really fun. But due to favorable reviews, we are considering the other.

Got out of the wifi area and was instantly able to read it. (Turns out the wifi in that area was broken.) Awesome!

Ragadolf wrote:
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Magic item creation question time: Can you add enchantments onto magic items.

For example, Pea Bear has a +1 Chainsaw, could she then have the party Wizard add Shocking or Shocking Burst to it.

TFY's crafting rules. If you have the feat and the cash, congrats you made the item.

I don't see why she could not, The cost would be 4k for shock or 9k for shocking burst

Every couple of years I go on a 'I want to build/design/etc' magical items and weapons. (I have to start from almost scratch each time. My memory) ;P

AS far as I recall, you can add to any magical item after it is created. Weapons seem to be the easiest due to the fact that pretty much anything you can have them do is lined up, spelled out, and cost is already calculated. :)

IIRC, the cost you pay to upgrade a '+1 weapon' to a '+1 Weapon of flame burst' is the cost of the second weapon, MINUS the cost of the first (which you already own.) Taking into account that every +# (whether actual bonus or ability) the cost increases exponentially. :)

I am unfamiliar with the 'Cost 1.5' to add additional ability? (Unless they are talking about the exponential cost increase per +#?)

Ah there I go again.
Short answer- My understanding is YES. :)

This is basically correct.

The "1.5" cost is only added for stacking multiple different abilities, per directions in the general magic item pricing rules. If any other pricing table applies, use that instead.

But to explain it, turning a +1 sword into a +2 flaming burst sword only costs the price difference of increasing the "+" (so finding the price for a +2 flaming burst longs word, then subtracting 2,000 gold from that price, as it was already a +1).

On the other hand turning a ring of sustenance (2,500) into a ring of sustenance and protection +1 would cost 3,000 gold. Why? Because the ring is the recipient of mutiple different abilities, and the 2,000 cost of the ring of protection +1 is increased to 3,000 (2k*1.5=3k). The ring, in total, would now be 5,500 good value.

No matter what, though, it's the lower cost that gets increased. So taking a ring of protection +1 (2k) and adding the benefits of a ring of sustenance (2.5k) only costs 3.5k, for a 5.5k total, just like before.

It gets a liiiiitle complex when you start adding things like improving a +1 protection to a +2, but the same formula and principle applies. A ring +2 costs 8k, so the increased cost would be the "lesser" 2.5k of the sustenance effect. So, first step, determine the price of the ring of protection+2 and sustenance. That's an 8k plus 3.75k (2.5k*1.5) = 11.75k total. You've spent 5.5k, so you need to expend 6.25k to improve your ring (11.75k-5.5k).
This pretty neatly lines up mathematically, for those who care. You already paid the extra '.5' to the 2k, so since your former higher price, 2.5k, is now your lower price, the difference is the .5k: so you just needed a .25k (.5k*.5) 'tax' to what would otherwise be a 6k increase to go from a +1 to a +2. I apologize for nothing.

Similarly, price increases would apply to other books, such as spell effect replication.

Anyway, I hope that helps clarify stuff!


Uh, I'm fine? We're driving. What happened?


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Shooting in Orlando. A gunman entered a gay nightclub and killed around 50 people and injured a lot more.

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