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And, down goes the coffee maker. It lasted a long time, certainly longer then I anticipated. It shall have a heroes send off.

But not until Pea Bear dissects it, FOR SCIENCE!!!


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What did you expect, this is how I grieve.


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There is a such thing as too easy.

I think a retarded monkey could do this job.

...I have made some poor life choices. Every job since college has been worse than the one before it.


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You wanna compare bad life choices with the guy with the 2,000 dollar suit...


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I once worked at a restaurant with a guy in an Italian suit watching surveillance cameras of the kitchen.

If you so much as flipped a burger counterclockwise he would come out and b*%!+ you out for it.

I never returned for my second shift. That was in Seattle. :-)


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thegreenteagamer wrote:
Sugar has no effect on hyperactivity in adults or children. That's an unfounded wives' tales with nothing but anecdotal evidence that has been disproven many times over the years by science.

...

As a father of a four-year-old, I have powerful enough and personal anecdotal evidence that requires me to ask you to cite your sources.

(Especially as I can almost time my watch by the 30-minute "crash" that happens thereafter. Every. Time.)

EDIT: Unless you're talking about the medical condition known as hyperactivity found in such high-profile probably-overly-prescribed cases like A.D.H.D., in which case I'd accept that. I am merely referring to the colloquially "hyperactive" sort of "high" that I can definitely tell that my kids receive after candy or sugar drinks.

(Generally, it takes ~5-15 minutes to kick in and crashes about ~30 minutes thereafter. This behavior does not track to non-sugar products... not even high-carb products like bread or pasta, though sitting overlong at such meals elicits similar behavior... but hey, over-exhaustion is a thing, too.)


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I know who's taking my kids trick or treating this year!

*cough* Thegreenskittlesgamer *cough*


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Tacticslion wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Sugar has no effect on hyperactivity in adults or children. That's an unfounded wives' tales with nothing but anecdotal evidence that has been disproven many times over the years by science.

...

As a father of a four-year-old, I have powerful enough and personal anecdotal evidence that requires me to ask you to cite your sources...

Here's a double-blind one from the New England Journal of Medicine.

And yeah, I had the exact opposite experience. We didn't particularly care whether or not our kids ate sugar, and we never saw it affect their behavior. My anecdotal evidence (and PLEASE do not take this as a slight on your person whatsoever, as it is not meant to be so) is that the more the parents anticipated hyperactive behavior, the more hyperactive the kids got. Kids are fantastic at reading parental cues. (Anyone remember the famous "counting horse" where they finally figured out the horse was reading the trainer's nonverbal cues to know when to stop?) Or even more importantly, vast quantities of sugar are typically devoured at parties and other social gatherings where social stimuli make the little people go nuts.

If you can, give it a try. Pay no attention whatsoever to their sugar intake. Force yourself not to care. See whether they have the legendary rush-n-crash.

I've just never experienced it with my two.


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Limeylongears wrote:
Incidentally, I have just drunk four cans of Dr. Pepper and am practically bouncing off the walls, but what I want to know is why it describes itself as a 'fruit flavour beverage' on the side. I do not believe that any fruit exists that tastes remotely similar to Dr. Pepper.

Dr Pepper's flavor is a blend of fruit syrups giving it a unique flavor.


Aranna wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:
Incidentally, I have just drunk four cans of Dr. Pepper and am practically bouncing off the walls, but what I want to know is why it describes itself as a 'fruit flavour beverage' on the side. I do not believe that any fruit exists that tastes remotely similar to Dr. Pepper.
Dr Pepper's flavor is a blend of fruit syrups giving it a unique flavor.

I always thought it was bugs...


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Limeylongears wrote:
So we're getting second hand weather, too?!

Yeah, but if my twitter timeline is anything to go by, you got it from my parts of the world.


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Tacticslion wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Sugar has no effect on hyperactivity in adults or children. That's an unfounded wives' tales with nothing but anecdotal evidence that has been disproven many times over the years by science.

...

As a father of a four-year-old, I have powerful enough and personal anecdotal evidence that requires me to ask you to cite your sources...

Here's a double-blind one from the New England Journal of Medicine.

And yeah, I had the exact opposite experience. We didn't particularly care whether or not our kids ate sugar, and we never saw it affect their behavior. My anecdotal evidence (and PLEASE do not take this as a slight on your person whatsoever, as it is not meant to be so) is that the more the parents anticipated hyperactive behavior, the more hyperactive the kids got. Kids are fantastic at reading parental cues. (Anyone remember the famous "counting horse" where they finally figured out the horse was reading the trainer's nonverbal cues to know when to stop?) Or even more importantly, vast quantities of sugar are typically devoured at parties and other social gatherings where social stimuli make the little people go nuts.

If you can, give it a try. Pay no attention whatsoever to their sugar intake. Force yourself not to care. See whether they have the legendary rush-n-crash.

I've just never experienced it with my two.

Also, a lot of sugary candy also contains caffeine. Chocolate in particular.


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Tacticslion wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
On the other hand, being told I'm unqualified to proctor a high school exam is... a teensy bit grating...

I'm sorry, sir.

I empathize.

Having been turned away from jobs because, "You're over qualified." feels just as grating, especially when there are no other options for jobs.

EDIT: making language clarification. And editing for appearance while I'm there.

Oh, that's NOTHING compared to, "I can't date you! You're too nice!"

EDIT: True story: I had half a dozen very close female friends in high school. But I didn't have my first kiss until I was 19. (After Tim Armstrong gave me my first mohawk and I started wearing leathers and steel-toed boots.) Dating in high school? Nonexistent for me... because whenever I asked, I was told I was "too nice"...
...and now NobodysWife's friends all say, "You're so lucky! NobodysHome is SOOOOOO nice!"

Bitter, much? Naaaaah....

Dude, don't even!

My first kiss was my junior year of college! ;p

(It was the one who would be my wife, incidentally, after I stalked er annoyed uh incessantly talked at and followed everywhere like a really irritating lost puppy who didn't know how to shut up about fictional things that don't matter um had pleasant and interesting conversations with - yeah, that's the one - for a semester, until she graduated and realized she'd really miss the irritating lost puppy who couldn't cease the verbal flow from his constantly-running mouth. Mind, this is after she'd already dumped me three times and told me to get lost and that she wasn't interested... before we'd ever gone out on a date... or I'd requested anything like a date... or made any moves... or any romantic overtures... or stated I liked her... or I'd done anything whatsoever that could, in any way, be construed as 'romantic'-like at...

My first kiss was when I was *thinks* seven.


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Limeylongears wrote:
So we're getting second hand weather, too?!
Yeah, but if my twitter timeline is anything to go by, you got it from my parts of the world.

Aha - the weather's going a-viking ;)

Or whatever that is in Old Norse.

Veðrið er að fara Viking?*

*:

Actually Icelandic, but as close as I could get...


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Walpurgisnacht is a few days away.

Almost everyone here is going to be drunk off their asses on Sunday.


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Tacticslion wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Sugar has no effect on hyperactivity in adults or children. That's an unfounded wives' tales with nothing but anecdotal evidence that has been disproven many times over the years by science.

...

As a father of a four-year-old, I have powerful enough and personal anecdotal evidence that requires me to ask you to cite your sources...

Here's a double-blind one from the New England Journal of Medicine.

And yeah, I had the exact opposite experience. We didn't particularly care whether or not our kids ate sugar, and we never saw it affect their behavior. My anecdotal evidence (and PLEASE do not take this as a slight on your person whatsoever, as it is not meant to be so) is that the more the parents anticipated hyperactive behavior, the more hyperactive the kids got. Kids are fantastic at reading parental cues. (Anyone remember the famous "counting horse" where they finally figured out the horse was reading the trainer's nonverbal cues to know when to stop?) Or even more importantly, vast quantities of sugar are typically devoured at parties and other social gatherings where social stimuli make the little people go nuts.

If you can, give it a try. Pay no attention whatsoever to their sugar intake. Force yourself not to care. See whether they have the legendary rush-n-crash.

I've just never experienced it with my two.

Thank you! I appreciate it!

I believe that kids are very skilled at that particular "horse-counting" technique, but I've never treated them differently (and, in fact, expected similar behavior based off of breads or similar things - I'm usually made aware of their sugar intake after-the-fact rather than before it). Said behavior has been consistently linked to three things: high (relative) sugary intake, boredom, and exhaustion. While not mutually exclusive, there are different times at which one applies and the others do not - hence my personal inclusions.

As an example, my son enjoys Mario Galaxy. A lot. He gets into it and is generally quite focused. Recently he engaged in behavior I'd not seen, before, while engaging with the game (and, as a stay-at-home dad, I actually witness all of his engagements there with). However said behavior - a kind of (colloquially) hyperactive goofiness including making reputatious "bleadhy-bleadhy" noise while sticking his tongue in and out and shaking his head back and forth and yelling about "hotdoooooooooooogs!" (a favorite hilarious concept of his, lately; everything is inexplicably a hotdog, when he's tired) - was typically associated with those three things. He'd recently had a nap, but was, by now, fully awake, and he was loving the game. Found some wrappers by his foot which I knew hadn't been there an half an hour ago (that's when he'd woken up), and I'd been in the room for all but about five minutes with changing his brothers diaper... about fifteen minutes ago. He proceeded to play Checked the time, waited until he just sort of hit a nadir of boredom/exhaustion and slumped - exactly half an hour later -, then sat in my lap for a while, then recovered and the rest of the day was normal.

For the record, unless someone asks me, I pretty much don't look at the time. I get to see it on my phone and computer, but it's not a common thing for me to pay attention to. So, though it's possible that I have a really good internal chronometer (I don't), was repeatedly checking the time (acknowledged possibility, though I was pretty into my videos), or exhibited similar "watch for the trick performance" behavior, it caught me by surprise, and I mostly just waited until his extreme goofiness was done.

(Incidentally, he didn't spend the entire time doing that whole thing described above. That was an incident that kicked off anarchic playing, akin to running Mario repeatedly off cliffs, jumping around in an anarchic manner, and similarly goofy playing while being surprisingly loud and overbearing. Not his typical behavior.)

I respect the studies (which is why I asked for cited sources), but daggum, that's fairly straight-forward anecdotal. Unless my son's very particular brand of four-year-old insanity just happens to coincide with candy for reasons that are exceptionally opaque (the "horse-counting" being the only thing I can think of that might slip past me (which is a valid concern). It's not a guarantee... but as the video I linked previously noted, I've got a looooooot of anecdotal confirmation bias for it to overcome. :)

EDIT: Hm... interesting study. Thanks! :D
I'll have to be (even more) on the lookout for things that reject my hypothesis! :)


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Still can't figure out how you get a four year old to nap.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Still can't figure out how you get a four year old to nap.

tranq dart.


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With my luck, I'd just accidentally shoot myself in the foot with it.

Although.. then I'd get a nap...


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Aranna wrote:

Should we start a "we love Freehold DM" fan club?

I did have a weird and impossible dream about Freehold.
~I was being chased by the CIA through NYC and Freehold came to my rescue and let me crash on his sofa. Later we watched Serenity and Gundam Unicorn. I woke up after the CIA caught up to us and demanded I turn over the working Haro robot I built.~

See if you can guess which part or parts of that are impossible.

no true Freehold would allow serenity to be watched!

#notruefreeholdfallacy

plays with the Haro aranna built and left at my place

Is that where I left that? It is supposed to follow me...


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captain yesterday wrote:
Still can't figure out how you get a four year old to nap.

As I said, I don't, always. But if he's tired enough, he'll tell me he's not and then go to sleep anyway.

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tranq dart.

Noo~...!

(Though those, uh... those help. Also... and related to the above... those days he's gotten candy and cake at the end of a school day - usually birthday parties - generally ends with him home feeling tired and nap-crashing.)

captain yesterday wrote:

With my luck, I'd just accidentally shoot myself in the foot with it.

Although.. then I'd get a nap...

... also a valid parenting strategy.


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A really tired kid will often be hyperactive. Thus, when you give a tired non-hyperactive kid sugar, it will get a short term blood sugar increase that will help it function and not be as tired. However, sugar passes, and by that point the kid will be tired and maybe hyperactive. This has nothing to do with a sugar buzz. Caffeine, now...


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Ugh! It's cold and raining. The dog needs a walk and groceries fetched before filling out paperwork and then going to work.


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On the plus side, I totally cleared out Vault 34 before Tiny T-Rex woke up. Only took a months supply of Rad-X and Radaway to do it, but now I'm packing so much heat (and a Pulse Gun!) Big MT here I come!


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captain yesterday wrote:
Ugh! It's cold and raining. The dog needs a walk and groceries fetched before filling out paperwork and then going to work.

Your dog fills out paperwork and has a job?

Heck with Toys R Us! Put the dog on a reality TV show and make millions!

EDIT: Sorry; it's 54 here, beautiful blue sky, with a scheduled high of 69. The kind of day that convinces people of the idealness of Bay Area weather... especially when we have exactly the same kinds of days in July and August, albeit usually with a bit of fog to make the morning more attractive and aromatic...


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I wish the dog filled out paperwork... he's a Beagle, so pretty sure a job is out of the question, they need their beauty sleep.

We anticipate improving weather conditions shortly. Just not today. Or probably tomorrow. Maybe next week?

Edit: tomorrow is 60 and sunny.


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*skips thousands of posts I have missed.*

So I apparently have a kink.

*sets up tripwire for Freehold.*


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Wait a minute, she can't just skip ahead can she?...


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captain yesterday wrote:
Still can't figure out how you get a four year old to nap.

Benadryl - the ten cent babysitter.

It will get an adult to pass out. You also get to teach your child big words, like recommended adult dosage. - Paraphrasing from Christopher Titus


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Nope.


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I foolishly thought that the rain meant I would get a day free of construction equipment. Nope. Nope, not at all. They are out there using a concrete saw in the rain. >.<
I will appreciate the results once they're done repairing the sidewalks, but boy do I hate the process. Thank goodness for noise cancelling headphones.


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Cold and rainy day feels like I should be baking something. But I have a hair appointment this afternoon, so maybe this evening. Flourless chocolate cake sounds like a great idea. Probably because it's almost always a great idea. :)


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It's a good thing they're doing it in the rain, those things kick out tons of concrete dust. Which has all sorts of crazy terrible stuff in it.


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captain yesterday wrote:
It's a good thing they're doing it in the rain, those things kick out tons of concrete dust. Which has all sorts of crazy terrible stuff in it.

Huh. I hadn't realized that. Learn something new every day. :)

Still wish it didn't sound like a dentist drill though. *shudder*


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We ended up getting a nice Black and Decker programmable coffee maker on sale for less then twenty bucks.

It even shuts itself off after two hours. So way less burnt coffee. :-)


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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Also, a lot of sugary candy also contains caffeine. Chocolate in particular.

1d4 ⇒ 3 goblin babies enjoy a nice box of Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs in the morning.


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captain yesterday wrote:

We ended up getting a nice Black and Decker programmable coffee maker on sale for less then twenty bucks.

It even shuts itself off after two hours. So way less burnt coffee. :-)

We went through a multitude of coffee makers until deciding on the unfortunate Remington iCoffee.

The good:
- Makes the best coffee we've ever had from a drip coffee machine (French press is still way better, but a much bigger PITA)
- Very simple functionality: Time, timed brewing, song on/off (and yes, CY, it shuts itself off after 2 hours)
- Uses a gold filter, so no more wasting money/resources on paper filters
- Almost every part is dishwasher-safe

The bad:
- iCoffee? Really? Couldn't come up with your own name? Had to rip one off?
- Insanely cheaply-made for the price. A couple of seals have broken already, leading to interesting coffee spills every morning or two. But it still makes such good coffee we don't mind the "disasters"
- Takes a medium-coarse grind, and my mother sent our wonderful burr grinder to that great electronics emporium in the sky. So I use a cheap-a$$ Krups grinder and do my best
- The stuff that isn't explicitly labeled "Dishwasher safe" isn't. We know that now

Anyway, I think there's some "work" thing calling...


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The Doomkitten wrote:

*skips thousands of posts I have missed.*

So I apparently have a kink.

*sets up tripwire for Freehold.*

I'm not sure how the two are related, but I am eager to find out!

triggers tripwire


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thegreenteagamer wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Still can't figure out how you get a four year old to nap.

Benadryl - the ten cent babysitter.

It will get an adult to pass out. You also get to teach your child big words, like recommended adult dosage. - Paraphrasing from Christopher Titus

this made me laugh uncontrollably.

In the men's bathroom stall at work.

Thanks tgtg.


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1d4 Goblin Babies wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Also, a lot of sugary candy also contains caffeine. Chocolate in particular.
1d4 goblin babies enjoy a nice box of Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs in the morning.

wasn't screaming yellow zonkers a cereal?


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All this talk about sweets has me looking to satisfy my own sweet tooth.


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Paper coffee filters are amazing for covering food in the microwave.


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1d4 Goblin Babies wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Also, a lot of sugary candy also contains caffeine. Chocolate in particular.
1d4 goblin babies enjoy a nice box of Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs in the morning.
wasn't screaming yellow zonkers a cereal?

Maybe. Depends on how strict your parents were on the definition of "cereal".


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1d4 Goblin Babies wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Also, a lot of sugary candy also contains caffeine. Chocolate in particular.
1d4 goblin babies enjoy a nice box of Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs in the morning.

*vibrates intensely*

You know why you shake like that? Vitamin deficiency, I'll bet.


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Whoa! It's like looking in a mirror.... *poke*... whoa!!


Soccer Game Prep Time!

Feed the children dinner, then take them to BATTLE ROYALE whereupon they will tackle the other children and club them to unconsciousness with their vicious brass shinplants +1* and the parents will jeer and mock everyone!

The time of drow on the surface has finally arrived!

* Okay, it's plastic. Shut it.


You know, I kind of thought you were the other kind of not-vicious drow.

That said, I can't actually find fault with your parenting strategy.


... you two are officially the worst.

Also, bad-guys.


Does this mean I get to-?


No. You are also a bad guy. Only worse.

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