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It's great that the weather is getting warmer, but I can do without the upper 30s every few days sprinkled in with the mid fifties days.

I would also love to have more then three days in a row fifty or above, and is it too much to ask for one day above sixty, just one.


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I'm not putting my clothes on til it warms up... might need to rethink that...


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Have you considered, I don't know, moving further south?

That might clear up your problem...


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I'm pretty sure I wouldn't fit in in the south.


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Wow, I mixed up conversations badly...

Personally I'm trying to get my wife to move to the desert as a compromise. She hates the cold, being of Jamaican descent, and I hate the humidity, being so very not a mutant. She won't move north but I want out of this swamp state, so I'm hoping she'll take Arizona, New Mexico or Nevada as a compromise.


captain yesterday wrote:
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't fit in the south.

It's funny... even for a joke, that's not what I meant; but I'mma run with it! Frankly: you would, depending, of course, on what part of "the South" you go to. Find the right spot and enjoy!


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Tiny T-Rex is a huge fan of Gravity Falls, especially the first episode. :-)


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captain yesterday wrote:
Tiny T-Rex is a huge fan of Gravity Falls, especially the first episode. :-)

Gravity Faaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllsssssssssssss~!

... that said, I'd recommend previewing some of the episodes for him, especially starting around Season 2, so you don't run into anything too frightening. I don't know if it would be or not - I don't know the temperament or sensibilities of your child (or his age, come to think of it - I think of him as 'really young' and that's about it...), so it's up to you to determine. :)


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Ideally, the best climate that suits me is the west coast, anywhere on the west coast.

Next would be the mountain states, I love Colorado, one of the most breathtakingly beautiful places around.

And then the tundra, I might b@@~# about winter, but at least the weather does something, and I love the summers, such a rush to pack everything in until the snow starts blowing again.

I don't care for the climate in the south, I dislike constant humidity.


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Tiny T-Rex is almost five, birthday in July. :-)

Pea Bear turns twelve at the end of April.


captain yesterday wrote:

Tiny T-Rex is almost five, birthday in July. :-)

Pea Bear turns twelve at the end of April.

Hah! He's the same age (a month or so off) as mine!

Anyway, yeah, second season especially things could be scarier. Anything with Bill Cypher might be a bit much, even first season, but it could be an interesting learning opportunity, too.

The Green Tea Gamer wrote:

Wow, I mixed up conversations badly...

Personally I'm trying to get my wife to move to the desert as a compromise. She hates the cold, being of Jamaican descent, and I hate the humidity, being so very not a mutant. She won't move north but I want out of this swamp state, so I'm hoping she'll take Arizona, New Mexico or Nevada as a compromise.

I, on the other hand, am a mutant and proud of it!

(Also, I started to get dried nosebleeds from the lack of humidity too far out that way.)

But, uh... won't it be, you know, much harder, out there, if you turn into a vampire? What'll happen to all your hard work and preparations?! Noooooo~!


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Not really. Bury myself in the sand. Also, Vegas, Tac, Vegas. I go undead, I travel to Vegas (where I would otherwise not want to live). If you can't survive as a bloodsucker in Vegas, you can't survive anywhere. The security cameras can't pick you up and you can charm people at the poker tables and never need to work again, and a certain industry there is legal that provides an endless supply of anonymous meetings for blood.


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Is it Celine Dion concerts, thus providing you with an endless stream of elderly bus tours, full of people that won't be missed.


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Well, it's certainly not the brothels... ;-)


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Interesting conversation -- my body just always adapted to the climate it got thrown into. We moved to Davis, where the highs hit 90 at some point in April or May, and don't drop back into the 80's until late October or early November. From June - September, any day below body temperature is a good day. Any night with lows in the 70's instead of the 80's is a 'nice cool' night.

Being a cold-loving troll, this was NOT good. The first summer was misery.

The second summer was... unpleasant.

The third summer was... "Really? Why did I complain about this so much?"

By the fourth summer, I was biking around in 106-degree weather, thinking, "Gee, this really isn't so bad..."

I moved back to the Bay Area. Within 2 years, the next time I went to the valley it was, "Who set off a volcano here! Aieeeeeeeee!!!"


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Yeah, just looked up the stats. The AVERAGE rent for a ONE-BEDROOM apartment within 10 miles of Berkeley, California, is now $2813/month. The MEDIAN rent for all rental units in the area is $3526.

Life here is stupid.


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Just putting off going to the DMV to renew our plates.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Just putting off going to the DMV to renew our plates.

Zootopia. See it. Appreciate their take on the DMV. Live it.


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Yeah, saw that clip, incredibly hilarious.

I know someone that works at the DMV, I hope to catch her on her break and force her to come down with all the other peasants. :-)


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NobodysHome wrote:
Life here is stupid.

Speaking of, I just finished watching a Let's Play of Life is Strange.

Welp.

It's certainly a game.

EDIT: Despite my silliness, above, allow me to clarify: it's much better than I initially gave it credit for, although I find the ending choice to be contrived; I understand it, I just disagree with it. That's just the nature of a video game versus a Pencil-and-Paper.

The story is emotional and powerful, and it makes you wonder about things.

To me, there are a large number of recurring themes, but one of the most important, to me, is a nuanced conversation about the relationship between the similarities and the differences between:

- self-determination (versus allowing another to determine your fate)

- self-reliance (versus relying on another to do things for/to you)

- self-acceptance (versus relying on others to accept you)

- self-sacrifice (versus both sacrificing others and finding a balance)

and

- selfishness/selflessness (comparing, contrasting, and relating the two of them; as well as opposing both with several of the other elements here)

... as well as pointing to the difference between doing what feels better, and doing what is most fulfilling long-term, as well as doing what is best.

I was going to post a "wise" quip* earlier today, before getting distracted and forgetting, that actually relates to this... but I'll wait for now and ponder it a bit more.

* Note: there are zero guarantees that it is either wise, or a quip. Instead, it's more like a random thought that you'd read in a "book of wise-or-inspirational sayings" kind of thing, whether or not it's actually wise or inspirational. You've been warned.


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We realized something when we got a bunk bed with stairs. Our dog has never seen stairs.

He is just now figuring them out, up is easy, down was an ordeal. :-)


Of course, with my party, if you give them a week between making characters and starting an adventure, the character that was made a week ago, is not the same character that hits the streets.


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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Hey, NobodysHome. I'm seriously considering renting a room in Berkeley starting in June. Do you have any thoughts on that?

On the bright side, if you move in to Berkeley we're guaranteed to take you out to dinner at least ONCE...

My experience with meeting online "friends" has been... less-than-phenomenal. I find that I prefer to keep interactions electronic.

But heck... if you're in Berkeley, we'll treat you to dinner. And if we can't stand you or you can't stand us? No worries!!! It's par for the course!


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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Hey, NobodysHome. I'm seriously considering renting a room in Berkeley starting in June. Do you have any thoughts on that?
NobodysHome wrote:

On the bright side, if you move in to Berkeley we're guaranteed to take you out to dinner at least ONCE...

My experience with meeting online "friends" has been... less-than-phenomenal. I find that I prefer to keep interactions electronic.

But heck... if you're in Berkeley, we'll treat you to dinner. And if we can't stand you or you can't stand us? No worries!!! It's par for the course!

But... but... I want to give you a huuuuu~uuuuuuuug~! Q.Q


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[Off-topic tirade]
What IS it about people that they can't understand a fundamental aspect of technology?

I tell my proteges, "NEVER use spaces or special characters in your file names."
I tell my manager, "NEVER use spaces or special characters in your file names."
I tell my peers, "NEVER use spaces or special characters in your file names."

They all respond the same: "It's 2016. Engineering should have fixed that by now."

I cannot tell you how much of my hair has been lost to people saying, "Engineering should have fixed that."
They won't. Ever. Don't count on them. Don't make assumptions that things will miraculously work.

Just follow. The. F***ing. Simple. Rule. Assume your engineers are idiots. Assume everything is as broken as it was in Windows 95 days. Write everything accordingly. And everything. Miraculously. Works.

"No; that's too much trouble. I'm just going to assume Engineering fixed it and write it the way I think it should be. It's easier, and students will understand it better."

So, yet ANOTHER hour of my life wasted testing a lab that doesn't work because my co-worker put f*****g spaces in her file names. Yet ANOTHER 15 minutes spent explaining (to no avail) that:
(a) Students really CAN understand that "MyFile" means "My File"
(b) That space WILL come back to bite you in the a$$. Forever.

[/tirade]

EDIT: Seriously. You're paying your engineer $60/hour to update your code. Your choices are:
(1) "Please implement this new functionality that will increase revenue by $100k a year."
(2) "Please address spacing in file names because our CurrDev department is too stupid to avoid using spaces in their file names."

As an engineering manager, which would YOU choose?


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I got more then enough money, and all my paperwork, let's see if we can get this done in less then three hours...


But... Nobody is Home... how will people understand things without proper grammar!

/grammar-focused guy (not really, but it's funnier to say I'm ending this part of me)

ALT: But... Nobody's Home... it works for my Word Documents

/commoner (not really, but it's funnier to say I'm ending this part of me)

ALT-ALT: But... NoonesintheHouse... it's just easier if I do my own thing differently from everyone else! All others should just adapt to me and want what I want!

/me (not really, but it's funnier to say I'm ending this part of me)

EDIT:

ALT-ALT-ALT: But... NobodysHome... now I really want to give you a hug~!


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I actually have a brother that uses a variation of NobodysHome as his moniker elsewhere. It's a pretty hilarious coincidence. :-)


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And, we're done.


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How to find out who's a nerd in the DMV cafeteria.

Have a kid that quotes Monty Python while playing with Minecraft figures.

Of course, a kid saying "tis only a flesh wound" while playing might be funny enough to make anyone chuckle. :-)


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NobodysHome wrote:

[Off-topic tirade]

What IS it about people that they can't understand a fundamental aspect of technology?

I tell my proteges, "NEVER use spaces or special characters in your file names."
I tell my manager, "NEVER use spaces or special characters in your file names."
I tell my peers, "NEVER use spaces or special characters in your file names."

They all respond the same: "It's 2016. Engineering should have fixed that by now."

I cannot tell you how much of my hair has been lost to people saying, "Engineering should have fixed that."
They won't. Ever. Don't count on them. Don't make assumptions that things will miraculously work.

Just follow. The. F***ing. Simple. Rule. Assume your engineers are idiots. Assume everything is as broken as it was in Windows 95 days. Write everything accordingly. And everything. Miraculously. Works.

"No; that's too much trouble. I'm just going to assume Engineering fixed it and write it the way I think it should be. It's easier, and students will understand it better."

So, yet ANOTHER hour of my life wasted testing a lab that doesn't work because my co-worker put f*****g spaces in her file names. Yet ANOTHER 15 minutes spent explaining (to no avail) that:
(a) Students really CAN understand that "MyFile" means "My File"
(b) That space WILL come back to bite you in the a$$. Forever.

[/tirade]

EDIT: Seriously. You're paying your engineer $60/hour to update your code. Your choices are:
(1) "Please implement this new functionality that will increase revenue by $100k a year."
(2) "Please address spacing in file names because our CurrDev department is too stupid to avoid using spaces in their file names."

As an engineering manager, which would YOU choose?

as an outsider looking in, it's amazing what people in the field see as a problem vs people outside of the field. My old roommate was a programmer/it/computer/whatever guy himself and he explained some of the thinking that went into problem solving in his field and it was fascinating from a psychology viewpoint. It's amazing how monomanicial and rigid the computer science field can be.


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So...my wife is meal planning for next month for us, which is great, and I just got my buddy to agree to work out with me starting probably Monday, so...yeah!

Also my wife has told me she is planning on getting my bike fixed as a gift for me.

I'm back in the saddle, people!


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And this time, when I ascend to my final form, all will regret offending me in my larval state!


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But seriously it's good to have plans and stuff, and I've been saying for weeks i need to work out again. I'm almost as big as I was before going vegetarian, thank you post 30 metabolism slow down and cubicle job.

Freehold always talking about working out and NH's progress are inspiring.


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thegreenteagamer wrote:

So...my wife is meal planning for next month for us, which is great, and I just got my buddy to agree to work out with me starting probably Monday, so...yeah!

Also my wife has told me she is planning on getting my bike fixed as a gift for me.

I'm back in the saddle, people!

Ride free, brother.


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

[Off-topic tirade]

[/tirade]
as an outsider looking in, it's amazing what people in the field see as a problem vs people outside of the field. My old roommate was a programmer/it/computer/whatever guy himself and he explained some of the thinking that went into problem solving in his field and it was fascinating from a psychology viewpoint. It's amazing how monomanicial and rigid the computer science field can be.

Well, it's rigid because computers do exactly what you tell them to do. Nothing more. Nothing less.

So in my 20+ years of debugging other people's computer "problems", I've found that my conversations boil down to:
(1) "Remove all the spaces and special characters."
"What? Why? Some of the as-delivered stuff has spaces and special characters!"
"I don't care. Just do it."
This solves 50% of all issues.

(2) "Fix all your capitalization so it exactly matches what the computer is expecting."
"What?!?!? Why should I have to do that?!? Their capitalization makes no sense!!!"
"Just DO IT!!!"
This solves 80% of remaining issues.

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Overall, yes. This means that 90% of all application-related issues I end up debugging have to do with either spaces, special characters, or capitalization.

When this is something the very first engineer reading in the string should have dealt with, way back then the application was first written, you can understand that it elicits strong feelings from those of us dealing with the same exact issue 20+ years later...

EDIT: Just so everyone knows, today's 2-hour bug was a capitalization issue. Microsoft Outlook "helpfully" capitalized the .xlf extension, so the file my colleague sent me was report.XLF instead of report.xlf. The application was not written to manage capitalization changes, so errored out because it couldn't handle the .XLF file. After I pointed out the spacing and capitalization issues (as I always do in a template e-mail to people having issues), my colleague changed .XLF to .xlf and everything started working. To say this is a pain point for those of us who have been doing this for decades is... an understatement...


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

[Off-topic tirade]

[/tirade]
as an outsider looking in, it's amazing what people in the field see as a problem vs people outside of the field. My old roommate was a programmer/it/computer/whatever guy himself and he explained some of the thinking that went into problem solving in his field and it was fascinating from a psychology viewpoint. It's amazing how monomanicial and rigid the computer science field can be.

Well, it's rigid because computers do exactly what you tell them to do. Nothing more. Nothing less.

So in my 20+ years of debugging other people's computer "problems", I've found that my conversations boil down to:
(1) "Remove all the spaces and special characters."
"What? Why? Some of the as-delivered stuff has spaces and special characters!"
"I don't care. Just do it."
This solves 50% of all issues.

(2) "Fix all your capitalization so it exactly matches what the computer is expecting."
"What?!?!? Why should I have to do that?!? Their capitalization makes no sense!!!"
"Just DO IT!!!"
This solves 80% of remaining issues.

=====
Overall, yes. This means that 90% of all application-related issues I end up debugging have to do with either spaces, special characters, or capitalization.

When this is something the very first engineer reading in the string should have dealt with, way back then the application was first written, you can understand that it elicits strong feelings from those of us dealing with the same exact issue 20+ years later...

EDIT: Just so everyone knows, today's 2-hour bug was a capitalization issue. Microsoft Outlook "helpfully" capitalized the .xlf extension, so the file my colleague sent me was report.XLF instead of report.xlf. The application was not written to manage capitalization changes, so errored out because it couldn't handle the .XLF file. After I pointed out the spacing and capitalization issues (as I always do in a template e-mail to people having issues), my colleague changed...

how would you explain error 37 and the like then?


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Lots of stuff...
how would you explain error 37 and the like then?

"The other 10%."

EDIT: Less facetiously, we're in different worlds. I'm trying to help consultants/enterprise employees install, configure, and customize their enterprise applications and databases. "My company just paid $300 million for an Oracle database contract, and I'm supposed to get all our legacy data from 300,000 spreadsheets into this one database. How do I do it?"

Their concern is simply: "How do I get these systems talking to each other?"
And more often than not, it's as simple as a pathname, a stray space, or some stupid capitalization.

Once it's all installed, configured, load tested, and working, it's exposed to users.

And those 100,000+ users hitting the database at the same time bring up a whole new suite of errors, most of which have to do with load management and server failover.

Blessedly, that's Not My Problem.

But as an end user, you'll see a lot more Error 37's than I ever will...


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Last stupid f!#%ing question someone asked me at work "do you have one of those swing sets assembled in back we could look at"

Me: we're a toy store.

Also three different people called me ma'am, one while looking at me face to face.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Lots of stuff...
how would you explain error 37 and the like then?

"The other 10%."

guess I walked into that one!


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Spike, The Flaming FAWTL Bike wrote:
Ride free, brother.

Is it weird if I hear this in Steve Blum's voice? {cues up Kanno's "Tank" in MP3 player}


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An article about food in 'The Hobbit'

Apologies to anyone reading it who is trying to lose weight...


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Captain Yesterday, Brut Squad wrote:

Last stupid f$!+ing question someone asked me at work "do you have one of those swing sets assembled in back we could look at"

Me: we're a toy store.

Also three different people called me ma'am, one while looking at me face to face.

My favorite was working in a video store just across the street from an "artsy" theater.

"Excuse me, we're going to go see, 'A boring movie with subtitles'. If there's a problem with our kids, can you come get us?"
"What do you mean? We're a video store, not a day care."
"Yeah, but they'll be no trouble at all. We'll be back for them in 3 hours. Come get us if there's a problem."

I was a bit sad that in 4 years of being associated with that store, we only turned kids over to the police ONCE....


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Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:
Spike, The Flaming FAWTL Bike wrote:
Ride free, brother.
Is it weird if I hear this in Steve Blum's voice? {cues up Kanno's "Tank" in MP3 player}

Steve Blum is not Koichi Yamadera. Therefore it is not weird, just wrong.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Captain Yesterday, Brut Squad wrote:

Last stupid f$!+ing question someone asked me at work "do you have one of those swing sets assembled in back we could look at"

Me: we're a toy store.

Also three different people called me ma'am, one while looking at me face to face.

My favorite was working in a video store just across the street from an "artsy" theater.

"Excuse me, we're going to go see, 'A boring movie with subtitles'. If there's a problem with our kids, can you come get us?"
"What do you mean? We're a video store, not a day care."
"Yeah, but they'll be no trouble at all. We'll be back for them in 3 hours. Come get us if there's a problem."

I was a bit sad that in 4 years of being associated with that store, we only turned kids over to the police ONCE....

desperate parents. How old were these kids?


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Perhaps, but not the responsibility of some random people at a video store. I'd be like "Lady, your kid is being sold for drugs the minute you walk out that door. It's not a question of if, it's which."

I wouldn't mean it, of course, but I can hold a deadpan face like you wouldn't believe, and it's not like a minimum wage job is irreplaceable.


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I worked at a video store, once.


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Annnd back. I hate spring so, so much. It's like an entire season devoted to making me not breathe.


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Yay! The mourge is back, baby!

... wait that sounds ba-


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I've decided the evil character I'm going to come up with tonight at work will be my iconic murderhobo Pepe, I'm thinking Swashbuckler but am totally open to ideas.

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