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I guess I'm lucky, Jax has the best library system in Florida, even after they've cut the budget by 75% in the last ten years; there's about 20+ branches across town


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Redbeard the Scruffy wrote:
Orthos wrote:


Reason 3: A Kindle full of books is far more easily transported than a library of physical books.
A tablet is easier to carry than a kindle, MP3 player, web browser, PDA, notepad, etc... :-) :-P
Orthos wrote:
especially when the consolidated object is doing the job maybe a third as well, on a good day, as the individual specialized machines


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My clothes have been slashed with the budget!


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I just thought it being Florida, the dress code is incredibly lax, and here I was, planning a nude library road trip. :-(


Blarg. Sick. I won't want to be sick. Stupid (extremely mild) fever. Ruins lots'a stuff! :/


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Um...no tank top, no flip flops, no service.

(This week was in the upper 20s! Awful!)


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starts distributing vitamins, while peaking cautiously, over the wall.


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And honestly, that's my main problem with the whole thing.

Yes, a phone can do all those things. Yes, a tablet can do all those things. But they can't do it as well.

My phone has an eighth the storage space of my MP3 player. And the MP3 player is usually packed full, to the point where I have to haggle and weigh my options when putting music on because invariably something's going to have to get pulled to fit anything new in.

If my phone could hold all the music I carry now on the MP3 player (or more!) as well as do all those other things, I might consider consolidation less irritating. Or at least consider letting it replace the MP3 player, and yes give myself one less thing to carry around. Though it's not really all that annoying - the MP3 player certainly fits in my shirt pocket a lot more comfortably than my phone does. Yet one more thing it does better.

But as it is, it simply doesn't work. It just doesn't have enough space. And that's not even getting into how annoying the music playing program on my phone is.

Same with the Kindle. It holds a ton of books, is very convenient to use, and does its job well. The Kindle program on my phone is clunky and uncomfortable to use, only holds a few books (which takes more storage space away from holding music, if I were still considering using it for that), and is burdened down by annoying, unnecessarily complex menus and navigation tools that I don't want or need.

The problem isn't that I don't like consolidation at all. It's that the consolidation options tend to suck because they try to do everything and half-ass it to make it all fit.

Jack of all trades, master of none.


Orthos wrote:
Redbeard the Scruffy wrote:
Orthos wrote:


Reason 3: A Kindle full of books is far more easily transported than a library of physical books.
A tablet is easier to carry than a kindle, MP3 player, web browser, PDA, notepad, etc... :-) :-P
Orthos wrote:
especially when the consolidated object is doing the job maybe a third as well, on a good day, as the individual specialized machines

Nexus is a PDF reader on par with Kindle. For casual web browsing, I find tablets in general superior to laptops. I can't think of any PDA tasks except phone calls a Nexus can't do on par with a Blackberry.


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Orthos wrote:

And honestly, that's my main problem with the whole thing.

Yes, a phone can do all those things. Yes, a tablet can do all those things. But they can't do it as well.

My phone has an eighth the storage space of my MP3 player. And the MP3 player is usually packed full, to the point where I have to haggle and weigh my options when putting music on because invariably something's going to have to get pulled to fit anything new in.

If my phone could hold all the music I carry now on the MP3 player (or more!) as well as do all those other things, I might consider consolidation less irritating.

But as it is, it simply doesn't work. It just doesn't have enough space. And that's not even getting into how annoying the music playing program on my phone is.

SD cards and 3rd party apps.


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I'm with Orthos on this one.


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I feel like giving Paizo money.


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Orthos - I just bought a 16gig mucro sd for my phone for under ten dollars . I don't think a terabyte is even a hundred bucks.

If you don't have expandable memory, you need a new phone.


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I did that earlier this week, when they mailed The Hellfire Compact, which is pretty sweet, from the very little I looked at the PDF.

The inside front and back covers are awesome, the front has the best regional map of Cheliax I've yet seen, the back is like Jade Regent (old timey looking paintings), except for evil.

Otherwise, I'm keeping out, in case I can get my brother (the cool one) to run it for me. :-)


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Anyway, you do you, man. Not like it affects me. Just trying to help. :-)

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captain yesterday wrote:

I did that earlier this week, when they mailed The Hellfire Compact, which is pretty sweet, from the very little I looked at the PDF.

The inside front and back covers are awesome, the front has the best regional map of Cheliax I've yet seen, the back is like Jade Regent (old timey looking paintings), except for evil.

Otherwise, I'm keeping out, in case I can get my brother (the cool one) to run it for me. :-)

What are you thinking about playing


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Tammy.

Every Lich needs an origin story. :-)


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The General is planning on a witch that eventually cooks Paladins down into potions (cook people master hex).

The kids will not be joining in. :-)

The babysitter will be the hardest part, but we're working on it, it's a delicate operation. :-)


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I am not really into evil characters as much as I used to but I'll check the AP out. Can I play with this guy


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Sure, go ahead! I love it!

I've never been an evil type person myself, but will admit it's intriguing.

Mostly, it's all because of Tammy, who is probably my favorite character I've made right now (also, my first full caster, ever). I'm actually writing her backstory now, which I'm keeping short and sweet.

Personality wise, she's pretty much, how Ron Swanson talks about his ex-wives, with a dash of Dennis Reynolds (especially when he's on Ritalin and casually destroying everything around him).

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I love spell casters, especially arcane. I have not yet fully checked out occult adventures or as I call it. The book of pseudo-sciences, all that book is missing is the astrologer class and Dionne warwick


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My dad has been into occult stuff for as long as I can remember, one of my favorite bonding experiences I have as a kid was when he took me to investigate haunted houses.


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Orthos wrote:
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Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
For a while people thought this pdf boom would die when kindle and other similar devices did
And considering those devices are still around and still doing quite well for themselves, even that prediction has failed.
I wouldn't say they are doing well, I would say other technologies adapted to their existence. I don't need a Kindle, my phone IS a kindle, as is my neighbors tablet. The Kindle I got for my wife started collecting dust some time ago, as did her mp3 player and other such devices(that i bought). I'm sure they still work, but I wouldn't go out to buy a new one. Still, mileage varies *widely* here, one of my players still swears by his ANCIENT tablet that has become his tabletop gaming platform.

I can read my Kindle books on my phone, but it is immensely uncomfortable, as well as unwieldy to operate the in-phone Kindle program. My actual Kindle, on the other hand, is far more comfortably sized and shaped for long reading sessions - being about the size of your average paperback - and extremely simple to use without the more complex menus and submenus the phone version comes with.

I'm extremely happy with it and wouldn't trade it for the alternative options for the world. I'm rather dreading the point if something were to happen to it or its lifespan simply happened to give out, as replacing it would likely force me to get a tablet that would try to do more stuff when all I want is another digital reading device, nothing more.

But I also still keep music on my MP3 player rather than my phone - the MP3 player holds FAR more (16 GB, compared to a paltry 2 on the phone), and again is far less complex to use. I do use the phone for on-the-go web browsing and for Skype when I'm away from home, but that's limited by my monthly data allowance or access to unpassworded WiFi, so I'm not constantly using it to play stuff off Youtube or anything.

So maybe I'm the odd one out, for preferring NOT to shift...

if I was still on my galaxy s3, I'd be 100% with you, but my note 3 has changed the game. The processor is so much better I can read books upon books on here, the larger screen helps as well. I read so much more on this and that's not even including comixology, which actually works on this thing!


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captain yesterday wrote:
I'm with Orthos on this one.

I'm with Rosita.

SD cards. Demand em.

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captain yesterday wrote:
My dad has been into occult stuff for as long as I can remember, one of my favorite bonding experiences I have as a kid was when he took me to investigate haunted houses.

See now that would have terrified me as a kid and to some extent now, I am incredibly jumpy. This was the last place I've been that's remotely scary


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I like scary stuff, always have, don't care for gore tho, too much gore and I'm out. :-)


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Redbeard the Scruffy wrote:

Orthos - I just bought a 16gig mucro sd for my phone for under ten dollars . I don't think a terabyte is even a hundred bucks.

If you don't have expandable memory, you need a new phone.

I have no idea if I do or not. I'm going to guess not, since I got the cheapest phone available that could still do what I want a phone to do - call, text, and have basic internet functions for when I'm not at home - and nothing more.

I don't see any visible SD ports when I pulled off the plastic cover, so if they do exist they're inside somewhere and I have no idea how to access them.


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Under the battery usually.


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Orthos wrote:
Redbeard the Scruffy wrote:

Orthos - I just bought a 16gig mucro sd for my phone for under ten dollars . I don't think a terabyte is even a hundred bucks.

If you don't have expandable memory, you need a new phone.

I have no idea if I do or not. I'm going to guess not, since I got the cheapest phone available that could still do what I want a phone to do - call, text, and have basic internet functions for when I'm not at home - and nothing more.

I don't see any visible SD ports when I pulled off the plastic cover, so if they do exist they're inside somewhere and I have no idea how to access them.

what phone do you have?


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Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Redbeard the Scruffy wrote:

Orthos - I just bought a 16gig mucro sd for my phone for under ten dollars . I don't think a terabyte is even a hundred bucks.

If you don't have expandable memory, you need a new phone.

I have no idea if I do or not. I'm going to guess not, since I got the cheapest phone available that could still do what I want a phone to do - call, text, and have basic internet functions for when I'm not at home - and nothing more.

I don't see any visible SD ports when I pulled off the plastic cover, so if they do exist they're inside somewhere and I have no idea how to access them.

what phone do you have?

Verizon 4G LTE, I don't know/remember any more details than that.


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Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Redbeard the Scruffy wrote:

Orthos - I just bought a 16gig mucro sd for my phone for under ten dollars . I don't think a terabyte is even a hundred bucks.

If you don't have expandable memory, you need a new phone.

I have no idea if I do or not. I'm going to guess not, since I got the cheapest phone available that could still do what I want a phone to do - call, text, and have basic internet functions for when I'm not at home - and nothing more.

I don't see any visible SD ports when I pulled off the plastic cover, so if they do exist they're inside somewhere and I have no idea how to access them.

what phone do you have?
Verizon 4G LTE, I don't know/remember any more details than that.

I'm glad we're on the same network, but I need a bit more than that.


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Yeah that's all I know. There's nothing written on it that identifies it as anything further, and I don't remember anything else about it from when I bought it a year ago. I was looking at prices more than names.


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He means make, which the phone should say, like Samsung, Huawei, LG, etc., and model, which may take a little file hunting to find.


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That's weird.

You bought a real cheapo then.


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I thank you for our shared ignorance of modern technology, don't ever change (into a cyborg) or, if you do, give me fair warning so I can go to Pier 1 for proper gun turrets for the pillowfort.


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Which I can't do right now as I'm back at work.


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Don't listen to them, they only want your Kindle for themselves.


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Man.

I mean I'm using a Galaxy light and a year ago it was $50 without a contract and it does EVERYTHING and has expanded memory slots.

I don't see how cheaper than that is needed.


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Redbeard the Scruffy wrote:

That's weird.

You bought a real cheapo then.

Like I said, I bought the phone to do basic phone stuff, plus internet. Why spend more money than I have to? I had plenty of other things I needed to pay for, since I was moving into my apartment at the time.


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Mine is called a ZTE, it's awesome at almost everything, except calling (which I hate doing anyway).


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I for one detest surfing on a tablet... specifically my iPad. BUT I can't beat the ability to surf from anywhere I want, so I do it anyway.


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I for one detest surfing on a tablet... specifically my iPad. BUT I can't beat the ability to surf from anywhere I want, so I do it anyway.

I'll be at home on my couch, with both my laptops on the table in front of me (that's where I store them), and I still browse the internet on my tablet instead of using them. Laptops are just so awkward and uncomfortable to use, and were only an improvement compared to desktops.


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Speaking of memory space, the one thing the Nexus lacks is an SD slot. No big, though. I bought a micro USB/regular USB hybrid flash drive. 20 bucks got me 64 gigs, and I slot it into the tablets charging port. Can also use it to easily transfer files from computer to tablet, or between school computersnwith the expensive GIS software I don't own. It's why I got a 16 gig tablet instead of dropping $100 more for 32 gig. Flash drives are so much cheaper.


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I guess part of the issue is that I'm a sucker for simplicity.

I'd rather have something that's plain and functional than something with all the bells and whistles.

So when I went to get a phone, I got something with the bare minimum of phone stuff. It does its job, does it well, and doesn't have a bunch of excess things to deal with (or perhaps more accurately, they don't intrude to the point of interfering with the phone's main purposes).

Ditto with the Kindle. I got it to read books with; it does that and does it well, and doesn't need to do anything else.


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Einstein was right.

Gravitational waves have been detected.


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captain yesterday wrote:

Einstein was right.

Gravitational waves have been detected.

What does that mean for practical application?


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Hold on, let me Bing that.


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My chromebook transforms into a tablet.


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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Aranna wrote:
I for one detest surfing on a tablet... specifically my iPad. BUT I can't beat the ability to surf from anywhere I want, so I do it anyway.
I'll be at home on my couch, with both my laptops on the table in front of me (that's where I store them), and I still browse the internet on my tablet instead of using them. Laptops are just so awkward and uncomfortable to use, and were only an improvement compared to desktops.

Yeah using a mouse with a context sensitive menu is the fastest and easiest way to use a computer. Tablets and phones don't have that ability making them a pain for me to use... so if I have a choice I always surf with the mouse on a real computer. If I don't have a choice, then I use what is available.

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Looking at the Gamer Life subforums capsule looks like Hama and I are having a drunk conversation all over the place, Captain Yesterday bringing us booze, with Freehold skyping in now and then and Tacticslion hearting us all over the place.

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