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Some of us are still getting over the Holidays.


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I have no idea what wellies are.

I own several pairs of shoes, but I always seem to be in need of more. I hate dress shoes because I hate formal wear, which I discussed earlier, but I also hate dress shoes because of the several times I slipped while wearing them.


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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Some of us are still getting over the Holidays.

ha!

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Freehold DM wrote:

I have no idea what wellies are.

I own several pairs of shoes, but I always seem to be in need of more. I hate dress shoes because I hate formal wear, which I discussed earlier, but I also hate dress shoes because of the several times I slipped while wearing them.

Wellington Boots, boots for when the land is more water than dirt.

I don't know what court or boat shoes would be, or why one would need special shoes for attending court or being on a boat. I'd just wear my boots. Or get some wellies, if the boat ride was expected to be rocky.


Naked holiday?!


Currently, I functionally own... an ambiguous number hovering between one and three, mostly acting like one-point-five, depending on what you count as shoes. I've got a pair of black leather shoes that I wear for most everything, and a pair of sandals. I hypothetically own a pair of sneakers, but they really should be thrown away, and I've worn them exactly once since getting my dress shoes. I have no idea where they are now. Interestingly, were it left up to me, I'd own: one. These would b be whatever my "current" pair was, with a brief stop-over point when I eventually acquired a new set of shoes. But, uh, my dad keeps becoming distressed by my shoes and giving me his. Except for tennis shoes, that's how I've arrived at every pair I've owned since I got married... and my most recent pair of sneakers was him taking me to the store when we were on a trip there, because, "Son, you need new shoes." after which, as soon as it was well established that I was going to wear those new shoes and they were comfortable, my old pair vanished in "mysterious circumstances"... though that seems like a conspiracy, as we were no longer at my parents' house.

Of course, to counter all that, I suppose I've a pair of white sneakers and maybe some steal-toed boots - the former was the only pair I wore shortly after getting married, while the latter I had in college, but then got left behind in my parents' house until it was shipped to us a few years back. The white sneakers are now compressed into a thin (relatively) line and are unable to be called "white" anymore - at least not honestly - and I don't know when the last time I wore them was, or even if they are wearable now. Hm... come to think of it, my I laws may have thrown them away last cleaning/purge... I've not seen them since. But anyway, my boots are... uh, I'd guess their in my closet? Maybe? I dunno: I've not worn them for a decade, and generally forget about them since the last several times I've tried to wear them (usually because someone was distressed by whatever current footwear I had) people have said "No." and I've ended up with a new pair of shoes. Great racket, that.


Can you learn to be a good singer? I mean, if you have a good ear but weak voice, can your voice be trained to be a great voice? Or do you have to be born with it?


Oh, and... the heck are you up to, Freehold?! We go all Christmas with the hot, and only now (roughly two days ago) does the chilly begin?!


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tinkers with weather dominator, sets it for "fimbulwinter"

I'm trying! I'm trying!


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Our high temperatures starting this weekend, are expected to top out at 11 degrees. Ah, yes, gotta love January... or, not.

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Aranna wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
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You really can't have too many shoes.

I am uncertain how anyone would function with fewer than three at the very minimum. You need running shoes, court shoes, dress shoes, boots, casual shoes, boat shoes, sandals, and slippers. And often you need them in a variety of different styles or colors depending on the outfit you wish to wear. I own 1 pair each of these except for dress shoes and boots which I own three pairs each of.

Maybe you need all those shoes. I need one pair of sneakers, and one pair of boots for when it is snowy/icy or really muddy. I have no use for anything else.

No dress shoes at all?! What about formal occasions like church, weddings, graduation, or the like?

I have one pair of black tennis shoes. As long as I keep them clean and in good shape and nobody is kneeling down to inspect them closely, they look nice enough to wear to church and work. Or at least nobody has complained to me about them.

I have no need for anything else.

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That's a chance I'm willing to take.

Maybe you, but not me.


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Treppa wrote:
Can you learn to be a good singer? I mean, if you have a good ear but weak voice, can your voice be trained to be a great voice? Or do you have to be born with it?

You can train your voice, just as you can train/develop any other part of you; I doubt it'll turn the average Joanne/Joe into Aretha Franklin, but everyone has untapped potential (up to a point), to state the obvious.


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Limeylongears wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Can you learn to be a good singer? I mean, if you have a good ear but weak voice, can your voice be trained to be a great voice? Or do you have to be born with it?
You can train your voice, just as you can train/develop any other part of you; I doubt it'll turn the average Joanne/Joe into Aretha Franklin, but everyone has untapped potential (up to a point), to state the obvious.

I listen to Alice in Chains and hear the difference between Jerry Cantrell (who doesn't have a bad voice) and Layne Staley (wow!) and wonder if training is the difference, or if somebody without tremendous talent could ever be a Layne Staley.


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Great, now I'm going to be listening to Alice in Chains all day.

You're lucky I have every album.

Also, check out Jerry Cantrell's second solo album (which is great) he is very much trying to sound like Layne on that one, especially the song Chemical Tribe.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Great, now I'm going to be listening to Alice in Chains all day.

You're welcome! :)

captain yesterday wrote:
Also, check out Jerry Cantrell's second solo album (which is great) he is very much trying to sound like Layne on that one, especially the song Chemical Tribe.

I will have to do that. I don't mind the difference in their voices. The interplay between them is part of what makes AiC great.


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If I would, could you.


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I played Them Bones on Guitar Hero, not knowing anything about Alice in Chains, and started counting. "What the heck? Is this in seven? Yes. Yes, it is. And it goes to four for the chorus. THIS. IS. AWESOME."


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I mean, you don't hear many odd time sigs outside of Jethro Tull (that I'm aware of). Occasionally, somebody will put out a song in three, but rarely in five or seven. (Yes, I know Take Five).


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Orthos wrote:

I have one pair of black tennis shoes. As long as I keep them clean and in good shape and nobody is kneeling down to inspect them closely, they look nice enough to wear to church and work. Or at least nobody has complained to me about them.

I have no need for anything else.

E felt for my father (who only fusses when my shoes are obvious and visually falling apart), this has been my experience. Similarly, I wear jeans to everything. Everything. Unless it's reeeeeaaaaaalllllyyy fancy. Then I break out the black jeans. Most of my shirts are button-downs, though.

(Well, they were: my I laws have seen fit to slowly pidgeonhole me into "most nerdy" by giving me an ever-increasing supply of comic-and-similar-themed t-shirts. I've seen zero reason to stop this trend.*)

* Though my brother-in-law and his fiancé are working really hard to dethrone me, at least in the shirt department. They get those AWEsome shirts with Link as Harry Potter; or Beymax giving Cap, Ironman, and Batman hugs; and so on. Dang it! Must... avoid... shopping... for... own... clothes... at... all... costs**...

** And it does cost, to. Dang, pants! Why you so expensive?!?

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Tacticslion wrote:
Orthos wrote:

I have one pair of black tennis shoes. As long as I keep them clean and in good shape and nobody is kneeling down to inspect them closely, they look nice enough to wear to church and work. Or at least nobody has complained to me about them.

I have no need for anything else.

E felt for my father (who only fusses when my shoes are obvious and visually falling apart), this has been my experience. Similarly, I wear jeans to everything. Everything. Unless it's reeeeeaaaaaalllllyyy fancy. Then I break out the black jeans. Most of my shirts are button-downs, though.

I would wear that dress style if I could. Unfortunately my job's dress code specifically bans jeans except on Saturdays. So it's slacks/khakis nine times out of ten.


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Alice in Chains was my favorite Seattle band, also Mudhoney, Screaming Trees, and to a lesser extent, The Melvins and 7 Year B&!&& (entirely because they were harder to find in Wisconsin.

And then of course, you had the earlier Mother Love Bone (so beautifully haunting) and Green River.

Of course newer bands that are great like Queens of the Stone Age, Schoolyard Heroes, and Modest Mouse, plus the Corin Tucker Band, remnants of Sleater-Kinney, who deserves to be up there with Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains as all time legends, have only continued the musical legacy.


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Aranna wrote:
You really can't have too many shoes.

...do I even need to say it at this point? :-)


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Orthos wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Orthos wrote:

I have one pair of black tennis shoes. As long as I keep them clean and in good shape and nobody is kneeling down to inspect them closely, they look nice enough to wear to church and work. Or at least nobody has complained to me about them.

I have no need for anything else.

E felt for my father (who only fusses when my shoes are obvious and visually falling apart), this has been my experience. Similarly, I wear jeans to everything. Everything. Unless it's reeeeeaaaaaalllllyyy fancy. Then I break out the black jeans. Most of my shirts are button-downs, though.
I would wear that dress style if I could. Unfortunately my job's dress code specifically bans jeans except on Saturdays. So it's slacks/khakis nine times out of ten.

I only recently bought a pair of black cargo jeans for work.

I was not happy about that.


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It's...just...such...delicious...stereotype...fodder...!


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Eh. I have hiking boots, rain boots, clog-type dress shoes, flat workout shoes (for weightlifting, etc), walking shoes... and, um, that's it. Five pairs for a female. I did have athletic sandals, but they broke after 25 years. Cheap damn Nikes.


Metal v. Bacteria

See? Like kings!

(Fair warning - SciShow is stupidly addictive.)


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Redbeard the Scruffy wrote:
It's...just...such...delicious...stereotype...fodder...!

As Rudy and Charles say in Archer "Stereotypes exist for a reason"


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Tacticslion wrote:
You know, I was just thinking of how we live better than most royalty - even most gods, as-described - in modern living.

"But, but, we can't summon lightning from our fingers, or call down fire from the heavens that turns the very earth to ash and glass!"

"Who cares, we've got YouTube!"

(Also, "we" totally can, but either would kill us; and the lightning runs through little wires in the house; and the fire is only able to be summoned by the military, 'cause it would be really freakin' stupid to put that into the hands of every single citizen - granted, there'd be a lot less traffic accidents, but that's because there'd be a lot less traffic, 'cause everyone would be dead after Stupid le'Dumb got a bad case of road rage.)


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He cut me off while I was cyber bullying Taylor Swift on Twitter, I only did what had to be done.


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Oh, FaWtL: you guys are basically the best.


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Treppa wrote:
Can you learn to be a good singer? I mean, if you have a good ear but weak voice, can your voice be trained to be a great voice? Or do you have to be born with it?

Voice can be trained. Lots of training for lungs, breathing, and exhaling. I should get some of that training myself, not for singing though, but for speaking and GMing.

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captain yesterday wrote:

So, does everyone have at least three pairs of shoes.

The General and I were having an animated discussion as to why I go thru shoes so quickly, I maintain it's not unusual to only have one pair of shoes at a time.

Edit: the General maintains that everyone has at least three pairs of shoes.

I have like 6 or 7 pairs of shoes


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captain yesterday wrote:

So, does everyone have at least three pairs of shoes.

The General and I were having an animated discussion as to why I go thru shoes so quickly, I maintain it's not unusual to only have one pair of shoes at a time.

Edit: the General maintains that everyone has at least three pairs of shoes.

Wow -- I may win this one:

(1) Heavy-duty hiking boots
(2) Heavy-duty cross-country ski boots
(3) Black sneakers
(4) White sneakers
(5) Dress shoes
(6) Waterproof boots (LL Bean duck boots. Love 'em!)

So those are just, "I have these because I have to wear them sometimes shoes."

Then we get to, "I have these because at some point in my life I bought them, figuring I'd need them, and never throw anything away."
(7) Sandals
(8) Crocs (yeah, don't ask me why I have both crocs and sandals)
(9) Brown dress shoes
(10) Backup black sneakers, because I worry about them going out of style, and I luurv them
(11-13) Backup dress shoes. And probably more. As is typical for men, I went through a LOT of brands and styles before I found shoes that were comfortable enough for my work (on my feet 10+ hours a day). However, I didn't throw any of the uncomfortable pairs out, using them on days my "good" shoes might get damaged (rain, snow, etc.), and I inherited a couple of pairs from my father, so... LOTS of dress shoes
(14) Ren Faire boots. The wonderful buffalo skin ones

So that puts me at 14 pairs, not counting a ratty old pair of slippers I can never find.

Can anyone top that?

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My go to shoe store is DSW I am a huge rockport fan


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NobodysHome wrote:

Wow -- I may win this one:

(1) Heavy-duty hiking boots
(14) Ren Faire boots. The wonderful buffalo skin ones

So that puts me at 14 pairs, not counting a ratty old pair of slippers I can never find.

Can anyone top that?

Black cowboy boots

Sundowners for hiking
black biker boots - cause sometimes cowboy boots are not quite acceptable for crowd
1 black deck shoes
1 brown deck shoes
1 old ratty brown deck shoes that I keep because are comfortable
1 black dress shoe that is comfortable
1 brown dress shoe that is comfortable (same style, just color different)
1 black dress shoe that is less comfortable but still okay that I have not worn out
1 black loafer that is uncomfortable
1 black sneakers for work when plantar fasciitis flares up
2 sets of tevas because one is usually wet
1 barefoot sneakers I thought I would try out and useful for camping
1 normal white sneaker
1 pair dead sneakers that get used for crappy jobs (painting, muddy dog walks)
4 pairs of old running shoes that I wear to gym
1 current pair of new running shoes I actually run in
Slippers


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Drejk wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Can you learn to be a good singer? I mean, if you have a good ear but weak voice, can your voice be trained to be a great voice? Or do you have to be born with it?
Voice can be trained. Lots of training for lungs, breathing, and exhaling. I should get some of that training myself, not for singing though, but for speaking and GMing.

I have breath training, but not voice training.

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I hate buttons. Any clothing with buttons (especially button-flies) are automatically evil in my books. Only exception is when wearing a full suit for a special occasion, like a wedding.


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Note to self: Velcro suits are the next big thing.


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Treppa wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Can you learn to be a good singer? I mean, if you have a good ear but weak voice, can your voice be trained to be a great voice? Or do you have to be born with it?
Voice can be trained. Lots of training for lungs, breathing, and exhaling. I should get some of that training myself, not for singing though, but for speaking and GMing.
I have breath training, but not voice training.

I have hug training.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Can you learn to be a good singer? I mean, if you have a good ear but weak voice, can your voice be trained to be a great voice? Or do you have to be born with it?
Voice can be trained. Lots of training for lungs, breathing, and exhaling. I should get some of that training myself, not for singing though, but for speaking and GMing.
I have breath training, but not voice training.
I have hug training.

Ew.


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Treppa wrote:
Note to self: Velcro suits are the next big thing.

Note to Treppa: No, no they aren't.


Treppa wrote:
Note to self: Velcro suits are the next big thing.

I dunno if velcro suits are good... See: Bruno, for how they work.


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Treppa wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Can you learn to be a good singer? I mean, if you have a good ear but weak voice, can your voice be trained to be a great voice? Or do you have to be born with it?
Voice can be trained. Lots of training for lungs, breathing, and exhaling. I should get some of that training myself, not for singing though, but for speaking and GMing.
I have breath training, but not voice training.
I have hug training.
Ew.

Only for stuffed animals, I don't touch people.

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LordSynos wrote:
I hate buttons. Any clothing with buttons (especially button-flies) are automatically evil in my books. Only exception is when wearing a full suit for a special occasion, like a wedding.

Heh, you and I are the exact opposite. 95% of my wardrobe is either polo shirts or button-front shirts. The handful of T-shirts I own are pretty much exclusively around-the-house or sleeping clothing.


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The only button up shirts I own are Hawaiian in nature, and would make Sam Axe (Bruce Campbell) in Burn Notice envious.

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What about Thomas Magnum?


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Also, yes.

Although, I only have 4 of them, they are of the highest quality (so I've been told).

I got them when I worked at a thrift store years ago.

Super soft to wear, exceptionally breezy, only for summer wear, and in early February when I'm fed up with winter and throw a tropical themed party-gaming day.


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Treppa wrote:
I mean, you don't hear many odd time sigs outside of Jethro Tull (that I'm aware of). Occasionally, somebody will put out a song in three, but rarely in five or seven. (Yes, I know Take Five).

Tends to be the super tech-y end of math rock/prog rock where the unusual time signatures come in (Frank Zappa, for example), at least as far as North American/Northern European popular music goes (move outside that and things start to get a bit more varied).

I do have a pair of slippers and some hiking boots, too. Forgot about those.


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Treppa wrote:
Can you learn to be a good singer? I mean, if you have a good ear but weak voice, can your voice be trained to be a great voice? Or do you have to be born with it?

I don't know about great, but if you have a good sense of tone then vocal lessons can really help strengthen your voice. When I was younger I had amazing range but a reedy voice, which ended up with me getting damaged vocal cords thanks to a high school teacher with a love of Mozart and a dearth of first sopranos. I was the only one who could hit the high notes, but I didn't know how to do that in a way that wouldn't hurt. I had to take a year off of singing and then take vocal lessons to learn how to sing without pain. By the end my voice wasn't even recognizable as what it had been. It was much stronger and clearer. And then years of asthma medication damaged my vocal cords again and I had to give up singing again outside of the occasional random karaoke. :P

Anyhow, the point of that long convoluted story is that yes vocal lessons can make your voice stronger. Learning the proper way to breathe, and the best ways to use your mouth to shape the sounds, and so on make a huge difference to how your singing voice sounds.

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