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ebon_fyre wrote:

I know you mentioned loving your boss. Is he/she still there? Or did this new non-human take over?

Talk with the supervisor, perhaps. If the new non-human is unresponsive, it might be time to take it up with someone higher up the ladder. (If the original is still there, you might want to go over your supervisor's head and explain the situation.)

That supervisor is no longer here - she either quit or got fired early this year, presumably because the owner just kept piling more and more responsibilities on her then getting angry when she couldn't keep up. Her position has been rotated four times since, with this new supervisor taking over this past April or May, if I recall right.

I tried to explain when she gave the ultimatum yesterday that it was impractical for me to be at work that early and that I didn't trust myself as a driver at that hour. Her response was "Well, everyone else has to be here at 6, I can't make exceptions for you" and "Either you're here, or I write you up". Followed by "I'm an easy person to get along with! Don't make this hard for yourself."

We lost four of our senior bookkeepers about a month ago, all at once, shortly after this quarter-end started. Now that she's pointed her guns at data entry instead, I think I've figured out why - they couldn't make her hours for some reason, family or travel distance or some other reason - and got written up too many times.

The only person higher up the ladder is the owner, and the new supervisor has made several comments about how her requests are coming straight from him. I have a feeling that one of the major contributors of the last four rotations of that role are because people were refusing some of the owner's more ridiculous requests/demands.


*blink*

My sympathies Orthos. I recently went through a bad patch at work which culminated with me giving two weeks' notice, then being rousted before my two weeks were done. (apparently my boss was upset that I quit and didn't realize I was working through the two-week notice period as a courtesy to HIM).

So here I sit, wired for early morning, and waiting for the sun to rise so I can get some chores done.


Well I'm here. Nerves are fried and the world is made of pain and burning, but I'm here.


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It's 6:20. I'm here. My supervisor isn't. What's wrong with this picture?


LOL. Classic bosserism: Do as I say, not as I do....


Back from employment office. Now I am registered as unemployed giving me have health insurance. Apparently if I was working for eighteen months abroad I would have the right to unemployed benefit - I thought only working in Poland and paying (obligatory) unemployment insurance grants the right to unemployed benefits.

Next Friday I need to go there with documentation of my employment so they can properly fill the not-eligible-for-unemployment-benefits form.


Nap time.

Silver Crusade

Orthos wrote:
It's 6:20. I'm here. My supervisor isn't. What's wrong with this picture?

Do what I say, not what I do?


Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Orthos wrote:
It's 6:20. I'm here. My supervisor isn't. What's wrong with this picture?
Do what I say, not what I do?

"Quit whining and work more, slave?" *whipslap*


David M Mallon wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

I got a letter from the police.

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ballsy.


Orthos wrote:
It's 6:20. I'm here. My supervisor isn't. What's wrong with this picture?

tell her you are sorry that she got written up when she arrives late. When she says she wasnt, ask why.

Silver Crusade

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Orthos, if your gut tells you it is time to send out resumes, listen to it. I am a big believer in reading the handwriting on the wall and planning your own exit before somebody else plans it for you.


Thanks for the laughs, guys.

I spoke with the supervisor on the way out of the building. She was very emphatic that yes, this schedule would be expected of us come January.

Her reasoning, I have to admit, makes sense. The office always, even in the slowest times of year, opens at 6. Traditionally, except under rare circumstances, everything from 6-8 was optional overtime, and any mandatory overtime was added first in the evening, as the office is normally open until 7 PM (6 on Fridays), and this is extended during January to aid in the rush. The new supervisor disagrees with this policy and believes we should be required to be here during "the normal office hours", and that ALL those hours should be filled before extending the evening hours should be considered.

Despite the logic behind it, I still don't think I can manage. I would have turned this job down on the spot if this had been information given to me when I was hired - I was told then that I would be working 8:30-5, sometimes a little later, and sometimes on Saturday, with zero mention of extra early morning hours. When I switched departments, the only warning I was given was that we would work extra late during January. There was no mention - NONE - of mandatory early-morning hours until this past summer. None. Until this supervisor took over.

At this point I have two options.

Either I can just stick with it, slug through, pray I don't get in an early-morning wreck, and hope I can make it until hours go back to normal. This will happen for about one to two weeks every three months (April, July, October) and for a full month in January and possibly part of February. That will make about ten to twelve weeks of abject misery for me each year. But it will allow me to keep the job, which has a fairly decent pay plus benefits at no cost. The main allure of this option is that I finally just got everything else in my life stable. I have my apartment, I'm up to date on bills, I'm not living from paycheck to paycheck on shoestrings. Changing jobs right now would give me about three or four weeks before my finances would fall apart, as well as losing insurance and such.

The other option is to go back on the hunt, sign back up with the temp agency, and load up CareerBuilder and Monster.com and all the other job-hunting sites, and pray I find something quickly, actually get the job, and can pick up quickly enough from quitting one that my monetary position doesn't suffer too much. The trick will be being able to make it to interviews, because nine times out of ten they'll be scheduled for times while I'm working, and between travel time and interview time will usually take longer than lunch breaks would allow for.

Really no win-win option here, sadly, but that's kind of to be expected.

Life sucks.

Silver Crusade

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Or option C: send out resumes and apply for jobs that look like an improvement, but allow yourself to be choosy, since you already have a paycheck. (No need to bother with temp agencies.) If something comes up that is really promising, have a sick day or fake doctor's appointment so you can interview. Worst thing that happens is no one bites, and you are back at option A.

I've gone with option C at least twice, and found jobs where I was better off. It's how I got the one I have now.

Silver Crusade

CH is dead on correct, the reason I relocated out to the bay area was because I knew the company I was working for was going down. I started looking around.

I'm not saying you have to relocate but finding a new opportunity while it can be scary, can be good.

Words I live by: Change is inevitable


Celestial Healer wrote:

Or option C: send out resumes and apply for jobs that look like an improvement, but allow yourself to be choosy, since you already have a paycheck. (No need to bother with temp agencies.) If something comes up that is really promising, have a sick day or fake doctor's appointment so you can interview. Worst thing that happens is no one bites, and you are back at option A.

I've gone with option C at least twice, and found jobs where I was better off. It's how I got the one I have now.

Exactly what CH said. Start looking in the usual places, but don't quit your job until you have another lined up & accepted.


+1. Don't burn your safety net until you've got a guarantee it's no longer needed.


Celestial Healer wrote:

Or option C: send out resumes and apply for jobs that look like an improvement, but allow yourself to be choosy, since you already have a paycheck. (No need to bother with temp agencies.) If something comes up that is really promising, have a sick day or fake doctor's appointment so you can interview. Worst thing that happens is no one bites, and you are back at option A.

I've gone with option C at least twice, and found jobs where I was better off. It's how I got the one I have now.

Do you have contact with your former supervisor and the people who were driven out? If you can, I'd recommend you reach out and network with them; find out where they're working now, and maybe they have have openings where you are qualified.

But CH is absolutely right to start tuning your resume now and begin applying for a more stable job in a healthier environment. It's been my experience that when management begins piling on unrealistic workloads and requiring unreasonably long hours, they are in already in a downward spiral. If it can't pull out, you'll be looking for a new job anyway when they go under, so best to get out now when you can control your exit and landing. You deserve a healthy work environment as an absolute minimum.


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

Or option C: send out resumes and apply for jobs that look like an improvement, but allow yourself to be choosy, since you already have a paycheck. (No need to bother with temp agencies.) If something comes up that is really promising, have a sick day or fake doctor's appointment so you can interview. Worst thing that happens is no one bites, and you are back at option A.

I've gone with option C at least twice, and found jobs where I was better off. It's how I got the one I have now.

Do you have contact with your former supervisor and the people who were driven out? If you can, I'd recommend you reach out and network with them; find out where they're working now, and maybe they have have openings where you are qualified.

I sadly don't have direct contact like a phone number or email or anything, my best hope at this point was searching for her on Google and hoping I could hit up wherever she's working now, if it's still within reasonable driving range. (EDIT: Well a quick search found her Facebook, though there's no public information about where she works or anything. This actually might be the straw that breaks the Facebook resistance's back.)

It sounds like a good plan though, CH. Thanks for the advice. Things should be easing up over the next couple of weeks so getting a day off for an appointment shouldn't be difficult.


Should you break your FB ban Orthos, look me up. The names the same, the icon pic is usually a monkey or an octopus :)


Assuming you want us FAWTLies as facebook friends... We might scare potential employers, a bit(e).

We didn't scare Solness or AZ employers, though, so it might be ok.


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I've been increasingly tempted for Facebook as well lately. Especially since the old number I had for some friends back in KC no longer works.


I'm leaning pretty heavily in that direction, just for the sake of putting together old contacts. Should I need to repeat the situation in the future.


I understand people who feel nervous posting info on FB. But, as long as it is used responsibly it is a great tool for managing social contacts and even sharing ideas. I even admin a FB group where those amongst my FB friends who enjoy gaming can post things gaming-related without cluttering their main feed.

Plus, lets face it, all your Internets are archived somewhere. There is no such thing as online privacy.


Oh true, but most of that doesn't have my real name attached to it, it has one of the four or five pseudonyms I've used over the years (Neyon, Edge, Oblivion, Axioanarchist, Orthos, He Who Walks Behind, and others I've probably forgotten).

Granted this is the only place I use the Orthos name and I have an alias with my real name on it (mostly because of the Raging Swan stuff I did) so that cover is pretty much blown =P

All that said, it pales in comparison to the possibility I'm having to look at here, so yeah hence the consideration.


You don't have to do real names on FB. Lots of folks have an alias. And IP addresses are hard to hide. They want dirt on ya, they'll get it.

I never did get this hide behind an alias thing. I get gaming under a pseudonym, or having a quirky messageboard character (I have like 170+ after all =P), but I like posting real stuff under my real name. Keeps me honest.


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Orthos wrote:
...Granted this is the only place I use the Orthos name and I have an alias with my real name on it (mostly because of the Raging Swan stuff I did) so that cover is pretty much blown =P...

You mean your real name isn't Cabbage Guy?


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
Orthos wrote:
...Granted this is the only place I use the Orthos name and I have an alias with my real name on it (mostly because of the Raging Swan stuff I did) so that cover is pretty much blown =P...
You mean your real name isn't Cabbage Guy?

I KNOW RIGHT??


Patrick Curtin wrote:
I never did get this hide behind an alias thing. I get gaming under a pseudonym, or having a quirky messageboard character (I have like 180+ after all =P), but I like posting real stuff under my real name. Keeps me honest.

I got started on the internet in the 90s as a mid-teen. At that time the watchword was, especially for younger people, to give out as little personal info as possible. No real names, no exact locations, and most certainly no sensitive information. Thus, usernames and pseudonyms and aliases. Heck, Paizo was the first website ever that I personally saw people use their real names, much less that it was common to do so.

Also at that age (and a little bit now) I did not LIKE my real name, especially my surname, which was a source of much of the abuse I suffered in grade school. So when given the option to CHOOSE my name, I was sure as heck not going to use that one.

Now when things are different, it's a hard habit to break.

That, and a great many people know me primarily by my pseudonyms. Most of my Skype gaming group refers to me as Oblivion (or more commonly just Bliv) even though they all know my real name (two are Ebon and my brother, two are ex-roommates, and the rest are close internet friends) and a sizable handful of them even have my physical address. Neverwinter Nights people know me as Edge or Axio. World of Warcraft people, at least back when I played regularly, knew me as Xenthya or just Xen. And so on and so forth.


Oh yah, I get the privacy for kids thing. Also, the name taunting. I still get very irate when people make fun of my name. However, most decent people are beyond simple name taunting, at least those with whom I would have any converse with. Anyone who proves me wrong gets edited out. Plus I adhere to the Tyrion Lannister school of thought:

"Let them see that their words can cut you and you’ll never be free of the mockery. If they want to give you a name take it make it your own. Then they can’t hurt you with it anymore.”

Maybe make a trial account with Oblivion as the name? IDK, just spitballing here.


Heh, yeah I mostly grew out of it - though more out of apathy than acceptance, also moving across the country away from people who knew me growing up. Heck, when I went back to my hometown for two weeks to visit for my grandfather's funeral, I didn't see a single one of my classmates the entire time.

Nah, I'll probably use my real name, especially since the main purpose of the account is going to be to get in touch with people who don't know my internet habits. Linking up with FB gamers and other such folks is a nice bonus though.


Plus, I know I got in touch with several 'casual' MMO gamers who I found I have a lot of other interests in common. Even though I don't play EQ anymore I still interact with them. It's nice.

Plus, damnned if I don't have friends and family spread out all over the globe. I'd never keep in touch if it wasn't for FB. I hate phone calls and email.


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arrived at the holiday location, it looks very good, everything tailored to babys and small kids
Marlon has spend his first hour in the baby lounge while we unpacked our bags, seems to work


Not that I would ever go back to FB (it's better for my mental health to stay away from that), but one of the things that added to the stress there was using my real name. First if all it made it easier for people like family to find me, and you can't politely find a way to not friend them, and I always have to be careful what I say around them. But mostly I had gotten so comfortable using my online name that when people who aren't related to me call me Rissa I start looking around trying to figure out who they're talking to. :P
I had other online aliases before, but Lynora is the one I ended up using on several sites and that's the one that stuck. It's more my real name than my real name. And I don't even hate my real name, nor is it difficult to find out what it is. I just thought it would be fun to use a pseudonym for my creative endeavors and it stuck. Names are weird that way sometimes.


Anyways, good luck job hunting Orthos.


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And I hope you guys have a really funny holiday, Aeglos. :)


Patrick Curtin wrote:

Oh yah, I get the privacy for kids thing. Also, the name taunting. I still get very irate when people make fun of my name. However, most decent people are beyond simple name taunting, at least those with whom I would have any converse with. Anyone who proves me wrong gets edited out. Plus I adhere to the Tyrion Lannister school of thought:

"Let them see that their words can cut you and you’ll never be free of the mockery. If they want to give you a name take it make it your own. Then they can’t hurt you with it anymore.”

Maybe make a trial account with Oblivion as the name? IDK, just spitballing here.

How could anyone make fun of Patrick? Or is there something I'm missing?

Obviously, I'm another vote against Facebook. Although that could change if something big and sweaty goes down.


aeglos wrote:

arrived at the holiday location, it looks very good, everything tailored to babys and small kids

Marlon has spend his first hour in the baby lounge while we unpacked our bags, seems to work

PARTY HARD!


Orthos wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
I never did get this hide behind an alias thing. I get gaming under a pseudonym, or having a quirky messageboard character (I have like 180+ after all =P), but I like posting real stuff under my real name. Keeps me honest.

I got started on the internet in the 90s as a mid-teen. At that time the watchword was, especially for younger people, to give out as little personal info as possible. No real names, no exact locations, and most certainly no sensitive information. Thus, usernames and pseudonyms and aliases. Heck, Paizo was the first website ever that I personally saw people use their real names, much less that it was common to do so.

Also at that age (and a little bit now) I did not LIKE my real name, especially my surname, which was a source of much of the abuse I suffered in grade school. So when given the option to CHOOSE my name, I was sure as heck not going to use that one.

Now when things are different, it's a hard habit to break.

That, and a great many people know me primarily by my pseudonyms. Most of my Skype gaming group refers to me as Oblivion (or more commonly just Bliv) even though they all know my real name (two are Ebon and my brother, two are ex-roommates, and the rest are close internet friends) and a sizable handful of them even have my physical address. Neverwinter Nights people know me as Edge or Axio. World of Warcraft people, at least back when I played regularly, knew me as Xenthya or just Xen. And so on and so forth.

no idea when things turned around for online privacy regarding names. What happened exactly that not using your real name got looked down upon by some? The only people here who know my name are fawtls, staff, and baronaremhasevaum.


No idea. Like I said, Paizo was the first place I ever saw someone using their real name openly, and it's still the only place (outside Facebook, I guess) that I see them used frequently.


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Freehold DM wrote:

How could anyone make fun of Patrick? Or is there something I'm missing?

Obviously, I'm another vote against Facebook. Although that could change if something big and sweaty goes down.

I go by Patrick because 'Pat' can be abused highly. I have been called at several junctions Fat Pat, Patrica, Patty-cakes, et al banal.

Curtin of course lends itself to stupid jokes: 'hang around Curtin!', 'you're kinda shady Curtin', har de har har. The sad thing is that every one of the mouth breathers who comes up with a name like this thinks they are the wittiest Neanderthal to ever slouch out of the cave ....

Silver Crusade

Orthos wrote:


I sadly don't have direct contact like a phone number or email or anything, my best hope at this point was searching for her on Google and hoping I could hit up wherever she's working now, if it's still within reasonable driving range. (EDIT: Well a quick search found her Facebook, though there's no public information about where she works or anything. This actually might be the straw that breaks the Facebook resistance's back.)
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You may want to try linkedin to find people you have worked with in the past.


What's that?

Silver Crusade

It is a professional network, where you post your job history. make connections and such


Huh. Thanks, I'll look into it.


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Tonight on my French WW2 drama, a wounded English airman is found in the woods.

He's not hidden at the local café. ...I'm very disappointed.

(Also, the local school's head mistress is fired for being jewish, so now I know one plot line that will probably end horribly.)

Silver Crusade

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LinkedIn is awesome. I recommend it to anyone looking to maintain their career contacts. It doesn't work miracles, but the more connected you are through it, the more opportunities you may find yourself stumbling upon.

Whereas Facebook tends to encourage all sorts of personal sharing, LinkedIn is more like an online resume.


Good to hear =)


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Kajehase wrote:

Tonight on my French WW2 drama, a wounded English airman is found in the woods.

He's not hidden at the local café. ...I'm very disappointed.

(Also, the local school's head mistress is fired for being jewish, so now I know one plot line that will probably end horribly.)

No fallen Madonnas with the big boobies or British Bummers overhead either, I assume?

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